Tweakui setting question

[ms]

I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts, long
ago. Many cold boots since then.

But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.

The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000

Advice?

MS

 

[PCR]

ms wrote:
| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts,
| long ago. Many cold boots since then.
|
| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
|
| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
|
| Advice?

Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a latter
day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know for sure
what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!

| MS

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Should things get worse after this,
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pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[ms]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> ms wrote:
>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts,
>| long ago. Many cold boots since then.
>|
>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
>|
>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
>|
>| Advice?
>
> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a latter
> day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know for sure
> what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
>
>| MS
>

Thanks, PCR, I haven't posted for about a year here, glad to see you're
still helping people.

ms

 

[PCR]

ms wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920
| @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|
|> ms wrote:
|>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop
|>| shortcuts, long ago. Many cold boots since then.
|>|
|>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
|>|
|>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
|>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
|>|
|>| Advice?
|>
|> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a
|> latter day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to
|> know for sure what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a
|> shortcut!
|>
|>| MS
|>
|
| Thanks, PCR, I haven't posted for about a year here, glad to see
| you're still helping people.

You are welcome. Yea, I'm still here all right. Good to see you back
too.

| ms

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Should things get worse after this,
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[thanatoid]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> ms wrote:
>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop
>| shortcuts, long ago. Many cold boots since then.
>|
>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
>|
>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
>|
>| Advice?
>
> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken
> by a latter day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows
> anyhow to know for sure what you are dealing with-- a
> shortcut or not a shortcut!
>
>| MS
>

Yeah, if you're a MORON! Install BOB while you're at it!

(/NOT/ to be taken personally, please.)

The "shortcuts to 'documents' " (fubar forbid we call them
FILES) on the desktop was one of MS's 10 stupidest ideas ever,
giving people another way out of /ever/ understanding the idea
of directory and file structures or disk organization in
general.




--
Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
votes decide everything.
- Josef Stalin

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:32:11 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>ms wrote:
>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts,
>| long ago. Many cold boots since then.
>|
>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
>|
>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
>|
>| Advice?
>
>Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a latter
>day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know for sure
>what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
>
>| MS

I have "unhidden" the PIF and LNK extensions by editing the registry.
Now I see all my desktop shortcuts as .PIFs or .LNKs.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[MEB]

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:liute4t1m9ic7fpm81h4bqi1bo26smt28n@4ax.com...
| On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:32:11 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >ms wrote:
| >| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts,
| >| long ago. Many cold boots since then.
| >|
| >| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
| >|
| >| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
| >| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
| >|
| >| Advice?
| >
| >Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a latter
| >day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know for sure
| >what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
| >
| >| MS
|
| I have "unhidden" the PIF and LNK extensions by editing the registry.
| Now I see all my desktop shortcuts as .PIFs or .LNKs.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Uhm, just a caution... when you make the show all extension changes in the
registry you have to remember that if you then modify a shortcut you MUST
remember to provide the "full" extension with the *.*.* [pif, link,etc.] or
they will not work. There are other extension which will also be shown which
you may not recognize.

YES, it is a good security measure, however, many people may make the wrong
judgments due to having never seeing those extensions before.

--
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http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

 

[PCR]

thanatoid wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
| news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|
|> ms wrote:
|>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop
|>| shortcuts, long ago. Many cold boots since then.
|>|
|>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
|>|
|>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
|>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
|>|
|>| Advice?
|>
|> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken
|> by a latter day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows
|> anyhow to know for sure what you are dealing with-- a
|> shortcut or not a shortcut!
|>
|>| MS
|>
|
| Yeah, if you're a MORON! Install BOB while you're at it!
|
| (/NOT/ to be taken personally, please.)
|
| The "shortcuts to 'documents' " (fubar forbid we call them
| FILES) on the desktop was one of MS's 10 stupidest ideas ever,
| giving people another way out of /ever/ understanding the idea
| of directory and file structures or disk organization in
| general.

I always rename my desktop shortcuts. So, that doesn't bother me. As far
as directory structure, you can't expect to see that on the desktop,
anyhow. You see it in Explorer or your substitute for that!

Keep your arrows, unless William Tell is your greatgrandfather! There
are times to know what you are dealing with-- shortcut or not a
shortcut! Dragging & dropping them can produce different results, & you
don't want to accidentally delete an important app!

| --
| Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
| votes decide everything.
| - Josef Stalin

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:32:11 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>ms wrote:
|>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop
|>| shortcuts, long ago. Many cold boots since then.
|>|
|>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
|>|
|>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
|>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
|>|
|>| Advice?
|>
|>Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a
|>latter day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know
|>for sure what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
|>
|>| MS
|
| I have "unhidden" the PIF and LNK extensions by editing the registry.
| Now I see all my desktop shortcuts as .PIFs or .LNKs.

Well, I see MEB has listed serious cautions about that. Otherwise, I
guess I have no objection, but I know little about it. What is the
advantage? In Explorer, they show up as "Shortcut", "Internet Shortcut",
or "Shortcut to MS-DOS Program" in the type column-- without having made
any Registry tweak.

| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:54:05 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:

>| I have "unhidden" the PIF and LNK extensions by editing the registry.
>| Now I see all my desktop shortcuts as .PIFs or .LNKs.
>
>Well, I see MEB has listed serious cautions about that. Otherwise, I
>guess I have no objection, but I know little about it. What is the
>advantage? In Explorer, they show up as "Shortcut", "Internet Shortcut",
>or "Shortcut to MS-DOS Program" in the type column-- without having made
>any Registry tweak.

What if you received an email attachment named filename.txt.lnk? Could
that be exploited by malware? As far as you would know, you would be
clicking on a harmless text file.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[thanatoid]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
news:uyZJ2KzKJHA.920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

<SNIP>

>|> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was
>|> broken by a latter day Windows Update. You should keep
>|> your arrows anyhow to know for sure what you are dealing
>|> with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
>|>
>|>| MS
>|>
>|
>| Yeah, if you're a MORON! Install BOB while you're at it!
>|
>| (/NOT/ to be taken personally, please.)
>|
>| The "shortcuts to 'documents' " (fubar forbid we call them
>| FILES) on the desktop was one of MS's 10 stupidest ideas
>| ever, giving people another way out of /ever/
>| understanding the idea of directory and file structures or
>| disk organization in general.
>
> I always rename my desktop shortcuts.

I only have desktop shortcuts to programs. I am a firm believer
in basics, and one of those is that you open a /program/, and
/THEN/ you open the file. All the crap MS has inflicted on us to
make it easier on people who cannot understand that /A/ program
opens /A/ file and that it is not a bad idea to keep those files
in /A/ specific /DIRECTORY/ (as you know, easily done right-
clicking to properties and "start in" - admittedly, even that is
black magic to 95% of "computer users") has only created more
annoyances, even if one gets paid to resolve them.

> So, that doesn't
> bother me. As far as directory structure, you can't expect
> to see that on the desktop, anyhow. You see it in Explorer
> or your substitute for that!

No, but concepts and logic are system-wide (I'm talking about
the "human brain") and "travel" for lack of a better word.
Someone who has never seen a two-pane file manager and calls
tech support when their "desktop shortcut" to a file doesn't
work has NO chance of ever understanding the structure of their
computer and many other things as well. (The fact most people
are incapable of thinking and don't WANT to understand anything
is another subject.)

I readily admit we have gone far beyond any hope of people
really understanding how to use computers, and all that MS et al
are doing is making them the REAL "idiot box #2". That used to
be just a joke, now it's a reality ("Media Edition"!!! Yeay!!!)

And I believe most people are quite happy with it.

The fact I have been attacked many times just for suggesting
partitions are a good idea is proof enough that the situation is
totally hopeless. Apparently people ENJOY defragging overnight
only to find their 800 GB C: drive has frozen when they wake up.

Still, posting in these groups /is/ a way of killing time.

> Keep your arrows, unless William Tell is your
> greatgrandfather! There are times to know what you are
> dealing with-- shortcut or not a shortcut! Dragging &
> dropping them can produce different results, & you don't
> want to accidentally delete an important app!

As previously stated, if you're a moron and don't even know that
you can rename icons (fubar forbid CHANGE them), whether
shortcuts or programs or whatever.

Don't even get me started on dragging and dropping, and how
/delightfully/ easy WE makes it, especially with an 800 GB C:
drive with 500 "folders".

"Where did that come from?"

"Where did "My Documents" go! I am DEAD!"

"What /is/ that? Can I delete it?" [Del]

"What's a "recycle bin"?

(...)

"Honey (Mom, Dad, "teach")! Do you have the tech support phone
no?"

[$$$$$$]

I weep for the post-98SE generation. Actually even 98 is
unbearable, I use Lite to have the 95 shell. Making everything
look like the web was THE stupidest idea EVER. Needless to say,
(almost) everyone loved it.

(blah blah blah blah blah...........)

Sigh.


--
Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
votes decide everything.
- Josef Stalin

 

[thanatoid]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
news:O7Zy7NzKJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

<SNIP>

> Well, I see MEB has listed serious cautions about that.
> Otherwise, I guess I have no objection, but I know little
> about it. What is the advantage? In Explorer, they show up
> as "Shortcut", "Internet Shortcut", or "Shortcut to MS-DOS
> Program" in the type column-- without having made any
> Registry tweak.

Assuming you actually have the "details" view enabled. Certainly
you know most people have extensions off (#1 award for THE worst
default ever, MS), "big icons" view /de rigeur/, and never heard
of editing the registry, or perhaps even the registry itself.
After all, it IS a hidden file(s)

"Dad! Where did all my pretty icons go? I can't READ all this
stuff? My head hurts! Where is clippy?"


--
Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
votes decide everything.
- Josef Stalin

 

[ms]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> ms wrote:
>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts,
>| long ago. Many cold boots since then.
>|
>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
>|
>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
>|
>| Advice?
>
> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a latter
> day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know for sure
> what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
>
>| MS
>
I never had a problem with "a shortcut or not a shortcut!"

I only have 6 total icons on desktop, and only 5 I've created, but those
arrows on this particular W98 machine really bug me.

If Tweakui with None selected in this machine does not do it, is there
any way in registry, etc to remove those arrows?

ms

 

[MEB]

There are a couple of ways from creating blank/transparent pics - to
registry modifications, many of which have been previously discussed in this
forum, here's one from an MVP on another help forum:

http://discussions.virtualdr.com/showthread.php?t=40000
March 18th, 2002, 09:50 AM
Steve R Jones
Site Moderator Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Dallas, Tx.
Posts: 15,948

Shell32 Security Patch Disables TweakUI Function

The new Microsoft security patch for the Windows shell that replaces the
shell32.dll file (Q313829) also disables the function of TweakUI for
removing shortcut arrows on Desktop icons.

To Remove shortcut icon arrows:

- Delete [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\LNKFILE\IsShortcut]
- Delete [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PIFFILE\IsShortcut]


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"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:6lcfu9FbqqfhU1@mid.individual.net...
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920
| @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|
| > ms wrote:
| >| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts,
| >| long ago. Many cold boots since then.
| >|
| >| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
| >|
| >| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
| >| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
| >|
| >| Advice?
| >
| > Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a latter
| > day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know for sure
| > what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
| >
| >| MS
| >
| I never had a problem with "a shortcut or not a shortcut!"
|
| I only have 6 total icons on desktop, and only 5 I've created, but those
| arrows on this particular W98 machine really bug me.
|
| If Tweakui with None selected in this machine does not do it, is there
| any way in registry, etc to remove those arrows?
|
| ms

 

[MEB]

Uhm, perhaps I should also supply a safer way noted here:
http://www.mdgx.com/newtip11.htm
DITCH THOSE ARROWS!

Note that the change is from IsShortcut to IsNotShortcut.

A "HACK" uses a resource hacker tool to change shell32 Shortcut Icon to
transparent or nothing. TweakUI doesn't work because the location and
addressing changed with the security update.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OzLnaQ%23KJHA.1500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| There are a couple of ways from creating blank/transparent pics - to
| registry modifications, many of which have been previously discussed in
this
| forum, here's one from an MVP on another help forum:
|
| http://discussions.virtualdr.com/showthread.php?t=40000
| March 18th, 2002, 09:50 AM
| Steve R Jones
| Site Moderator Join Date: Sep 1999
| Location: Dallas, Tx.
| Posts: 15,948
|
| Shell32 Security Patch Disables TweakUI Function
|
| The new Microsoft security patch for the Windows shell that replaces the
| shell32.dll file (Q313829) also disables the function of TweakUI for
| removing shortcut arrows on Desktop icons.
|
| To Remove shortcut icon arrows:
|
| - Delete [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\LNKFILE\IsShortcut]
| - Delete [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\PIFFILE\IsShortcut]
|
|
| ------------------
| Be sure and visit me at our sister site. SysOpt
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message
| news:6lcfu9FbqqfhU1@mid.individual.net...
| | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920
| | @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
| |
| | > ms wrote:
| | >| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop shortcuts,
| | >| long ago. Many cold boots since then.
| | >|
| | >| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
| | >|
| | >| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
| | >| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
| | >|
| | >| Advice?
| | >
| | > Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a
latter
| | > day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to know for
sure
| | > what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
| | >
| | >| MS
| | >
| | I never had a problem with "a shortcut or not a shortcut!"
| |
| | I only have 6 total icons on desktop, and only 5 I've created, but those
| | arrows on this particular W98 machine really bug me.
| |
| | If Tweakui with None selected in this machine does not do it, is there
| | any way in registry, etc to remove those arrows?
| |
| | ms
|
|

 

[PCR]

ms wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:OwKi$ZlKJHA.920
| @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|
|> ms wrote:
|>| I set Explorer view in Tweakui to show no arrow on desktop
|>| shortcuts, long ago. Many cold boots since then.
|>|
|>| But any shortcut I create on Desktop shows that arrow.
|>|
|>| The only version data I can find on my Tweakui is:
|>| tweakui.cpl 106,544 6/18/2000
|>|
|>| Advice?
|>
|> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was broken by a
|> latter day Windows Update. You should keep your arrows anyhow to
|> know for sure what you are dealing with-- a shortcut or not a
|> shortcut!
|>
|>| MS
|>
| I never had a problem with "a shortcut or not a shortcut!"
|
| I only have 6 total icons on desktop, and only 5 I've created, but
| those arrows on this particular W98 machine really bug me.
|
| If Tweakui with None selected in this machine does not do it, is there
| any way in registry, etc to remove those arrows?

I see MEB is willing to take that up. Fine... let it be on his head if
disaster should strike!

| ms

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

thanatoid wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
| news:uyZJ2KzKJHA.920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|
| <SNIP>
|
|>|> Keep your arrows! That old kludge to remove them was
|>|> broken by a latter day Windows Update. You should keep
|>|> your arrows anyhow to know for sure what you are dealing
|>|> with-- a shortcut or not a shortcut!
|>|>
|>|>| MS
|>|>
|>|
|>| Yeah, if you're a MORON! Install BOB while you're at it!
|>|
|>| (/NOT/ to be taken personally, please.)
|>|
|>| The "shortcuts to 'documents' " (fubar forbid we call them
|>| FILES) on the desktop was one of MS's 10 stupidest ideas
|>| ever, giving people another way out of /ever/
|>| understanding the idea of directory and file structures or
|>| disk organization in general.
|>
|> I always rename my desktop shortcuts.
|
| I only have desktop shortcuts to programs. I am a firm believer
| in basics, and one of those is that you open a /program/, and
| /THEN/ you open the file. All the crap MS has inflicted on us to
| make it easier on people who cannot understand that /A/ program
| opens /A/ file and that it is not a bad idea to keep those files
| in /A/ specific /DIRECTORY/ (as you know, easily done right-
| clicking to properties and "start in" - admittedly, even that is
| black magic to 95% of "computer users") has only created more
| annoyances, even if one gets paid to resolve them.

Nevertheless, you must keep your arrows! It's better to know what your
dealing with -- shortcut or not a shortcut -- than to worry about all of
that!

|> So, that doesn't
|> bother me. As far as directory structure, you can't expect
|> to see that on the desktop, anyhow. You see it in Explorer
|> or your substitute for that!
|
| No, but concepts and logic are system-wide (I'm talking about
| the "human brain") and "travel" for lack of a better word.
| Someone who has never seen a two-pane file manager and calls
| tech support when their "desktop shortcut" to a file doesn't
| work has NO chance of ever understanding the structure of their
| computer and many other things as well. (The fact most people
| are incapable of thinking and don't WANT to understand anything
| is another subject.)

In some cases, clicking a shortcut that has lost its target will cause
it to go on a searching for it. Then, if found, you may decide whether
it is an acceptable copy or whether to look in the Recycle Bin or to try
a 3rd-party undelete. All of that is good! Who knows whether some of
those tweaks that turn off shortcut arrows will interfere with that
process!?

| I readily admit we have gone far beyond any hope of people
| really understanding how to use computers, and all that MS et al
| are doing is making them the REAL "idiot box #2". That used to
| be just a joke, now it's a reality ("Media Edition"!!! Yeay!!!)
|
| And I believe most people are quite happy with it.

Convenience is a good thing. You can STILL seek to understand the inner
workings if you want-- but just go with convenience if you don't!

| The fact I have been attacked many times just for suggesting
| partitions are a good idea is proof enough that the situation is
| totally hopeless. Apparently people ENJOY defragging overnight
| only to find their 800 GB C: drive has frozen when they wake up.

I've finally gone to multiple partitions. My only regret is that a full
system backup is a tad more difficult to do.

| Still, posting in these groups /is/ a way of killing time.

There's also a certain sense of accomplishment getting things solved
here.

|> Keep your arrows, unless William Tell is your
|> greatgrandfather! There are times to know what you are
|> dealing with-- shortcut or not a shortcut! Dragging &
|> dropping them can produce different results, & you don't
|> want to accidentally delete an important app!
|
| As previously stated, if you're a moron and don't even know that
| you can rename icons (fubar forbid CHANGE them), whether
| shortcuts or programs or whatever.
|
| Don't even get me started on dragging and dropping, and how
| /delightfully/ easy WE makes it, especially with an 800 GB C:
| drive with 500 "folders".

Well -- rather than memorize all those drag/drop rules every time one
forgets them (if one ever knew them all in the first place) -- I've
learned it's BEST ALWAYS to R-Drag everything instead of L-Drag. That
way you get a choice when the button is released-- not the least of
which is "cancel"!

| "Where did that come from?"
|
| "Where did "My Documents" go! I am DEAD!"
|
| "What /is/ that? Can I delete it?" [Del]
|
| "What's a "recycle bin"?

R-Drag with the mouse instead of L-Drag to cut those questions in half!

| (...)
|
| "Honey (Mom, Dad, "teach")! Do you have the tech support phone
| no?"
|
| [$$$$$$]
|
| I weep for the post-98SE generation. Actually even 98 is
| unbearable, I use Lite to have the 95 shell. Making everything
| look like the web was THE stupidest idea EVER. Needless to say,
| (almost) everyone loved it.
|
| (blah blah blah blah blah...........)
|
| Sigh.

Don't worry. Those who have permanently quit us for XP/Vista will be
back when they have turned half purple of the irradiation!

| --
| Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
| votes decide everything.
| - Josef Stalin

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[PCR]

Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:54:05 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>Franc Zabkar wrote:
|
|>| I have "unhidden" the PIF and LNK extensions by editing the
|>| registry. Now I see all my desktop shortcuts as .PIFs or .LNKs.
|>
|>Well, I see MEB has listed serious cautions about that. Otherwise, I
|>guess I have no objection, but I know little about it. What is the
|>advantage? In Explorer, they show up as "Shortcut", "Internet
|>Shortcut", or "Shortcut to MS-DOS Program" in the type column--
|>without having made any Registry tweak.
|
| What if you received an email attachment named filename.txt.lnk? Could
| that be exploited by malware? As far as you would know, you would be
| clicking on a harmless text file.

I didn't think of that. But I do have avast!'s E-Mail checker
activated...

X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081010-0, 10/10/2008), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

...., not to mention the WEB Shield. Also, wouldn't the .lnk still
highlight with a different color when pointed at-- even if does look
like a .txt?

| - Franc Zabkar
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[PCR]

thanatoid wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
| news:O7Zy7NzKJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|
| <SNIP>
|
|> Well, I see MEB has listed serious cautions about that.
|> Otherwise, I guess I have no objection, but I know little
|> about it. What is the advantage? In Explorer, they show up
|> as "Shortcut", "Internet Shortcut", or "Shortcut to MS-DOS
|> Program" in the type column-- without having made any
|> Registry tweak.
|
| Assuming you actually have the "details" view enabled. Certainly
| you know most people have extensions off (#1 award for THE worst
| default ever, MS), "big icons" view /de rigeur/, and never heard
| of editing the registry, or perhaps even the registry itself.
| After all, it IS a hidden file(s)

If so-- all the more reason to keep your arrows!

| "Dad! Where did all my pretty icons go? I can't READ all this
| stuff? My head hurts! Where is clippy?"

LOL!

| --
| Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
| votes decide everything.
| - Josef Stalin

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[Franc Zabkar]

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:56:16 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:

>| What if you received an email attachment named filename.txt.lnk? Could
>| that be exploited by malware? As far as you would know, you would be
>| clicking on a harmless text file.
>
>I didn't think of that. But I do have avast!'s E-Mail checker
>activated...
>
>X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081010-0, 10/10/2008), Inbound message
>X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>
>..., not to mention the WEB Shield. Also, wouldn't the .lnk still
>highlight with a different color when pointed at-- even if does look
>like a .txt?

Probably, but then my brain would always need to be in gear to make
sure I noticed it.

- Franc Zabkar
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