In the group 'microsoft.public.test'

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~BD~

I said to Peter Foldes .........

"perhaps you can help me understand why there are hundreds of posts here
entitled 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' with the 'poster' being user@domain"

PF usually knows the answer to most things, but this obviously has him
stumped (or he's been busy elsewhere).

Can anyone here explain matters? If so, I'd appreciate your view. TIA.

Dave
 
S

Shenan Stanley

~BD~ wrote:
> I said to Peter Foldes .........
>
> "perhaps you can help me understand why there are hundreds of posts
> here entitled 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' with the 'poster' being
> user@domain"
> PF usually knows the answer to most things, but this obviously has
> him stumped (or he's been busy elsewhere).
>
> Can anyone here explain matters? If so, I'd appreciate your view.
> TIA.
> Dave

Advice: Don't over-analyze. -)

Someone decided to post (perhaps testing something - thus their choice of
newsgroups: microsoft.public.test) hundreds of times something entitled
'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' (the very subject again implying this is a
test - further confirming the reasoning behind it all) and they have chosen
to hide their identity by using the address user@domain for whatever reason.

As far as why someone would do that - those reasons would be known only to
the person actually doing the posting (and perhaps not even to them -
depending on their mental state and/or possibility of being told to do
that.)

Could be a spammer testing their new tool. Could be a regular user testing
something for themselves. Could be a bot. Could be some insane individual
who thinks this will bring them closer to enlightment (or perhaps they are
not insane and it will do just that and we are all blind to their wisdom...)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
B

~BD~

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
news:%23ImYeB04IHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> I said to Peter Foldes .........
>>
>> "perhaps you can help me understand why there are hundreds of posts
>> here entitled 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' with the 'poster' being
>> user@domain"
>> PF usually knows the answer to most things, but this obviously has
>> him stumped (or he's been busy elsewhere).
>>
>> Can anyone here explain matters? If so, I'd appreciate your view.
>> TIA.
>> Dave
>
> Advice: Don't over-analyze. -)
>
> Someone decided to post (perhaps testing something - thus their choice of
> newsgroups: microsoft.public.test) hundreds of times something entitled
> 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' (the very subject again implying this is a
> test - further confirming the reasoning behind it all) and they have
> chosen to hide their identity by using the address user@domain for
> whatever reason.
>
> As far as why someone would do that - those reasons would be known only to
> the person actually doing the posting (and perhaps not even to them -
> depending on their mental state and/or possibility of being told to do
> that.)
>
> Could be a spammer testing their new tool. Could be a regular user
> testing something for themselves. Could be a bot. Could be some insane
> individual who thinks this will bring them closer to enlightment (or
> perhaps they are not insane and it will do just that and we are all blind
> to their wisdom...)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
What wise words, Shenan Stanley - thank you!
smile.gif


However, 'tis me who is seeking enlightment!

I suspect that you didn't actually take the trouble to look or, if you did,
you do not see the posts in question. Each post as described is one minute
apart - every minute of every hour - hundreds ............. all similar, but
the ones I've looked at have differing numerals/letters. Here is an example:

NNTP microsoft.public.test - Post61bfb794-390a-4bd8-b8aa-16012d3071bc

Although I appreciate your specific view, there must be a more logical
reason than any of those you have described Shenan. Perhaps someone else
will actually take a peek ............ and report back, here, what they
think.

Dave

PS Thank you for your advice btw. Do you know, I once posted messages in
the 'test' forum at Aumha and had my hand smacked really hard.

There is now this caveat imposed there:-

_______________________________________________________________________________

(Administrative Post for Clarification)

The Test Forum is for the stated purpose posted at it's main link.

That being.

Feel free to use this as a "test space" for learning to use the forum. Items
here will be automatically purged 3 days after their last post. PLEASE DON'T
POST QUESTIONS HERE (except, perhaps, about how to use the forum itself).

This Forum is not for questions or anything other then testing to see if a
system is capable of posting to the forums. Any other posts will be
considered misuse of the Test Forum.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Ref:- http://www.aumha.net/

I never did understand why the posting of *anything* in a test facility
should have upset someone.
wink.gif
 
S

Shenan Stanley

~BD~ wrote:
> I said to Peter Foldes .........
>
> "perhaps you can help me understand why there are hundreds of posts
> here entitled 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' with the 'poster' being
> user@domain"
> PF usually knows the answer to most things, but this obviously has
> him stumped (or he's been busy elsewhere).
>
> Can anyone here explain matters? If so, I'd appreciate your view.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Advice: Don't over-analyze. -)
>
> Someone decided to post (perhaps testing something - thus their
> choice of newsgroups: microsoft.public.test) hundreds of times
> something entitled 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' (the very subject
> again implying this is a test - further confirming the reasoning
> behind it all) and they have chosen to hide their identity by using
> the address user@domain for whatever reason.
> As far as why someone would do that - those reasons would be known
> only to the person actually doing the posting (and perhaps not even
> to them - depending on their mental state and/or possibility of
> being told to do that.)
>
> Could be a spammer testing their new tool. Could be a regular user
> testing something for themselves. Could be a bot. Could be some
> insane individual who thinks this will bring them closer to
> enlightment (or perhaps they are not insane and it will do just
> that and we are all blind to their wisdom...)

~BD~ wrote:
> What wise words, Shenan Stanley - thank you!
smile.gif

>
> However, 'tis me who is seeking enlightment!
>
> I suspect that you didn't actually take the trouble to look or, if
> you did, you do not see the posts in question. Each post as
> described is one minute apart - every minute of every hour -
> hundreds ............. all similar, but the ones I've looked at
> have differing numerals/letters. Here is an example:
> NNTP microsoft.public.test -
> Post61bfb794-390a-4bd8-b8aa-16012d3071bc
> Although I appreciate your specific view, there must be a more
> logical reason than any of those you have described Shenan. Perhaps
> someone else will actually take a peek ............ and report
> back, here, what they think.
>
> Dave
>
> PS Thank you for your advice btw. Do you know, I once posted
> messages in the 'test' forum at Aumha and had my hand smacked
> really hard.
> There is now this caveat imposed there:-
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> (Administrative Post for Clarification)
>
> The Test Forum is for the stated purpose posted at it's main link.
>
> That being.
>
> Feel free to use this as a "test space" for learning to use the
> forum. Items here will be automatically purged 3 days after their
> last post. PLEASE DON'T POST QUESTIONS HERE (except, perhaps, about
> how to use the forum itself).
> This Forum is not for questions or anything other then testing to
> see if a system is capable of posting to the forums. Any other
> posts will be considered misuse of the Test Forum.
> _________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Ref:- http://www.aumha.net/
>
> I never did understand why the posting of *anything* in a test
> facility should have upset someone.
wink.gif


I did go look before I responded.

I stick with my answer.
Something is testing something.

What specifically (given the subject name - I have suspicions as to the
product) I cannot say for sure.

Why is something only the person/bot/server configured to do this testing
could answer.


"ClusterSentinel is a tool used to monitor and control the Network Load
Balancing cluster hosts. Microsoft.com administrators use ClusterSentinel
to:

• Determine and report the state of the Network Load Balancing cluster
hosts, such as converged or suspended.
• Manually control cluster hosts by using Network Load Balancing commands,
such as Stop, Start, Drain and Drainstop.
• Monitor and report on application health. If an application is determined
to be having problems on a particular host, that host will automatically be
removed from the cluster."


As for the body of each message - that unique identifier could mean anything
and be generated in any way.

The "Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.test:" is counting up and
infers that 320627 postings have been made since whatever/whom ever began
this 'test'. Right now i only see 319416 - 320627, but that will increase.
heh

Headers from the first I saw:
-----
From: user@domain
Subject: ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest
Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.test
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:20:33 -0700
NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.46.197.57
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.test:319416
-----

Headers from the last I saw:
-----
From: user@domain
Subject: ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest
Message-ID:
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.test
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:43:43 -0700
NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.46.197.57
Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
Lines: 1
Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.test:320627
-----

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
B

~BD~

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
news:e5$7HY24IHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> I said to Peter Foldes .........
>>
>> "perhaps you can help me understand why there are hundreds of posts
>> here entitled 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' with the 'poster' being
>> user@domain"
>> PF usually knows the answer to most things, but this obviously has
>> him stumped (or he's been busy elsewhere).
>>
>> Can anyone here explain matters? If so, I'd appreciate your view.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Advice: Don't over-analyze. -)
>>
>> Someone decided to post (perhaps testing something - thus their
>> choice of newsgroups: microsoft.public.test) hundreds of times
>> something entitled 'ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest' (the very subject
>> again implying this is a test - further confirming the reasoning
>> behind it all) and they have chosen to hide their identity by using
>> the address user@domain for whatever reason.
>> As far as why someone would do that - those reasons would be known
>> only to the person actually doing the posting (and perhaps not even
>> to them - depending on their mental state and/or possibility of
>> being told to do that.)
>>
>> Could be a spammer testing their new tool. Could be a regular user
>> testing something for themselves. Could be a bot. Could be some
>> insane individual who thinks this will bring them closer to
>> enlightment (or perhaps they are not insane and it will do just
>> that and we are all blind to their wisdom...)
>
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> What wise words, Shenan Stanley - thank you!
smile.gif

>>
>> However, 'tis me who is seeking enlightment!
>>
>> I suspect that you didn't actually take the trouble to look or, if
>> you did, you do not see the posts in question. Each post as
>> described is one minute apart - every minute of every hour -
>> hundreds ............. all similar, but the ones I've looked at
>> have differing numerals/letters. Here is an example:
>> NNTP microsoft.public.test -
>> Post61bfb794-390a-4bd8-b8aa-16012d3071bc
>> Although I appreciate your specific view, there must be a more
>> logical reason than any of those you have described Shenan. Perhaps
>> someone else will actually take a peek ............ and report
>> back, here, what they think.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> PS Thank you for your advice btw. Do you know, I once posted
>> messages in the 'test' forum at Aumha and had my hand smacked
>> really hard.
>> There is now this caveat imposed there:-
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> (Administrative Post for Clarification)
>>
>> The Test Forum is for the stated purpose posted at it's main link.
>>
>> That being.
>>
>> Feel free to use this as a "test space" for learning to use the
>> forum. Items here will be automatically purged 3 days after their
>> last post. PLEASE DON'T POST QUESTIONS HERE (except, perhaps, about
>> how to use the forum itself).
>> This Forum is not for questions or anything other then testing to
>> see if a system is capable of posting to the forums. Any other
>> posts will be considered misuse of the Test Forum.
>> _________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Ref:- http://www.aumha.net/
>>
>> I never did understand why the posting of *anything* in a test
>> facility should have upset someone.
wink.gif

>
> I did go look before I responded.
>
> I stick with my answer.
> Something is testing something.
>
> What specifically (given the subject name - I have suspicions as to the
> product) I cannot say for sure.
>
> Why is something only the person/bot/server configured to do this testing
> could answer.
>
>
> "ClusterSentinel is a tool used to monitor and control the Network Load
> Balancing cluster hosts. Microsoft.com administrators use ClusterSentinel
> to:
>
> . Determine and report the state of the Network Load Balancing cluster
> hosts, such as converged or suspended.
> . Manually control cluster hosts by using Network Load Balancing commands,
> such as Stop, Start, Drain and Drainstop.
> . Monitor and report on application health. If an application is
> determined to be having problems on a particular host, that host will
> automatically be removed from the cluster."
>
>
> As for the body of each message - that unique identifier could mean
> anything and be generated in any way.
>
> The "Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.test:" is counting up and
> infers that 320627 postings have been made since whatever/whom ever began
> this 'test'. Right now i only see 319416 - 320627, but that will
> increase. heh
>
> Headers from the first I saw:
> -----
> From: user@domain
> Subject: ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest
> Message-ID:
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.test
> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:20:33 -0700
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.46.197.57
> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Lines: 1
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.test:319416
> -----
>
> Headers from the last I saw:
> -----
> From: user@domain
> Subject: ClusterSentinelNNTPPostTest
> Message-ID:
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.test
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:43:43 -0700
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.46.197.57
> Path: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
> Lines: 1
> Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.test:320627
> -----
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>

Thank you , Shenan.

I apologise for doubting that you had looked. A better bond of trust has now
been formed!

Thanks for helping to explain matters as far as you are able.

I appreciate your time and effort to help educate me!
wink.gif


Dave
 
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