old monitor on XP/W2K computer

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aa

On my working w2k/XP computer I have to temporarily use a CRT monitor from
an old win98 computer.
On booting it shows the OS selection screen and then the Windows XP logo
screen correctly, but when it reached the login screen the screen sort of
duplicates itself horisontally many times and starts blinking.
I set the screen parameters to the lowest possible (800 by 600 and 16 bit) -
the same.
Tried to boot in safe mode - the same. Booting into w2k - the same.
Reconnect my "normal" LCD display - works fine.
It looks like the monitor does not support the videocard or something like
that
Can anything be done?

If not, is it OK to plug-unplug LCD monitor without switching off the
computer?
 
D

David H. Lipman

From: "aa"

| On my working w2k/XP computer I have to temporarily use a CRT monitor from
| an old win98 computer.
| On booting it shows the OS selection screen and then the Windows XP logo
| screen correctly, but when it reached the login screen the screen sort of
| duplicates itself horisontally many times and starts blinking.
| I set the screen parameters to the lowest possible (800 by 600 and 16 bit) -
| the same.
| Tried to boot in safe mode - the same. Booting into w2k - the same.
| Reconnect my "normal" LCD display - works fine.
| It looks like the monitor does not support the videocard or something like
| that
| Can anything be done?

| If not, is it OK to plug-unplug LCD monitor without switching off the
| computer?



The computer is in a resolution and/or a refresh rate the monitor can not handle.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
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SC Tom

"aa" wrote in message
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> On my working w2k/XP computer I have to temporarily use a CRT monitor from
> an old win98 computer.
> On booting it shows the OS selection screen and then the Windows XP logo
> screen correctly, but when it reached the login screen the screen sort of
> duplicates itself horisontally many times and starts blinking.
> I set the screen parameters to the lowest possible (800 by 600 and 16
> bit) -
> the same.
> Tried to boot in safe mode - the same. Booting into w2k - the same.
> Reconnect my "normal" LCD display - works fine.
> It looks like the monitor does not support the videocard or something like
> that
> Can anything be done?
>
> If not, is it OK to plug-unplug LCD monitor without switching off the
> computer?
>
>

Along with what Dave said, yes, as long as the monitor is off, you can
connect/disconnect the monitor without turning off the computer.

Reduce your refresh rate to 70 Hertz or less and that should fix it.

SC Tom
 
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BillW50

In news:eoQFT$XTKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
aa typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:11:48 +0400:
[...]
> If not, is it OK to plug-unplug LCD monitor without switching off the
> computer?

They say that is a bad thing to do. But I have done this for decades and
many times per day and I never had a problem ever.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2
 
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smlunatick

On Oct 15, 1:31 pm, "BillW50" wrote:
> Innews:eoQFT$XTKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> aa typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:11:48 +0400:
> [...]
>
> > If not, is it OK to plug-unplug LCD monitor without switching off the
> > computer?
>
> They say that is a bad thing to do. But I have done this for decades and
> many times per day and I never had a problem ever.
>
> --
> Bill
> Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
> Windows XP SP2

I personally seen a monitor "fry" itself and the video card when the
plug in was done. It is a pain to fix after.
 
A

aa

"smlunatick" wrote in message
news:e6897cc1-6f6c-4fee-8475-aff79d074382@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 15, 1:31 pm, "BillW50" wrote:

>I personally seen a monitor "fry" itself and the video card when the
>plug in was done. It is a pain to fix after.

Was the monitor turbed off as SC Tom suggested?
 
S

Sid Elbow

SC Tom wrote:

> Reduce your refresh rate to 70 Hertz or less and that should fix it.

If it's currently set up to work with the LCD monitor, it ought to
already be set to 70 HZ or less shouldn't it?
 
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BillW50

In news:004fb3d4$0$26612$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com,
Sid Elbow typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:30:44 -0400:
> SC Tom wrote:
>
>> Reduce your refresh rate to 70 Hertz or less and that should fix it.
>
> If it's currently set up to work with the LCD monitor, it ought to
> already be set to 70 HZ or less shouldn't it?

I would say use 60 hertz, as everything should work fine at 60. Then if
you want to, try higher rates once you have it working.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2
 
B

BillW50

In
news:e6897cc1-6f6c-4fee-8475-aff79d074382@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com,
smlunatick typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:13:57 -0700 (PDT):
> On Oct 15, 1:31 pm, "BillW50" wrote:
>> Innews:eoQFT$XTKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
>> aa typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:11:48 +0400:
>> [...]
>>
>>> If not, is it OK to plug-unplug LCD monitor without switching off
>>> the computer?
>>
>> They say that is a bad thing to do. But I have done this for decades
>> and many times per day and I never had a problem ever.
>
> I personally seen a monitor "fry" itself and the video card when the
> plug in was done. It is a pain to fix after.

I have heard of this before. And very old monitors, I can see this
happening. As the very early ones would fry if you turned them on
without a signal. But since the days of color CGA monitors, I have been
plugging and unplugging monitors while computer and monitor still fired
up.

Later I used a KMV switch. That only lasted a bit. Nowadays I hot swap
the cables again. And since I only use laptops and netbooks, I use my
computer desk with an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse. And I am
hot swapping at least 2 to 3 times a day.

If something ever fried, you bet I would stop doing this practice. But
it has worked for me for decades, so I can't complain. -)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2
 
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smlunatick

On Oct 15, 2:24 pm, "aa" wrote:
> "smlunatick" wrote in message
>
> news:e6897cc1-6f6c-4fee-8475-aff79d074382@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 15, 1:31 pm, "BillW50" wrote:
>
> >I personally seen a monitor "fry" itself and the video card when the
> >plug in was done.  It is a pain to fix after.
>
> Was the monitor turbed off as SC Tom suggested?

Yes, the monitor was "powered off."
 
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SC Tom

"Sid Elbow" wrote in message
news:004fb3d4$0$26612$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> SC Tom wrote:
>
>> Reduce your refresh rate to 70 Hertz or less and that should fix it.
>
> If it's currently set up to work with the LCD monitor, it ought to already
> be set to 70 HZ or less shouldn't it?

Not necessarily. My LCD is running at 1024x768 at 72Hz with no problem, but
my previous CRT at 1024x768 would only run at 70Hz or less. Of course, a CRT
at 60Hz sucks- most of them suffered from "60 cycle hum."

SC Tom
 
A

aa

"SC Tom" wrote in message
news:OGEkgbYTKHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Reduce your refresh rate to 70 Hertz or less and that should fix it.

Thank you. It was set to 60, but when I set it to 56 it worked - thanks
again
 
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BillW50

In news:uql%23NdbTKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
aa typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:48:57 +0400:
> "SC Tom" wrote in message
> news:OGEkgbYTKHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>> Reduce your refresh rate to 70 Hertz or less and that should fix it.
>
> Thank you. It was set to 60, but when I set it to 56 it worked -
> thanks again

Hmm... interesting. Is your AC power 220VAC @ 50 hertz?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2
 
A

aa

"BillW50" wrote in message
news:eixo3gbTKHA.764@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Hmm... interesting. Is your AC power 220VAC @ 50 hertz?

Yes, in Russia it is 220VAC @ 50 hertz
But with LCD it was working fine at 60
 
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BillW50

In news:%23USdPrbTKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
aa typed on Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:14:03 +0400:
> "BillW50" wrote in message
> news:eixo3gbTKHA.764@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Hmm... interesting. Is your AC power 220VAC @ 50 hertz?
>
> Yes, in Russia it is 220VAC @ 50 hertz
> But with LCD it was working fine at 60

Yes I can see that happening now. Some monitors can't go too much higher
than the hertz rate of the power being supplied.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2
 
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