Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

S

Skybuck Flying

Hello,



Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted to

show her something on the computer/internet.



I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was

rattling non-stop.



First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this

did not appear to be the case.



Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since I

never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures

with it...

however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic updates

protected it a little bit.



I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see

what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic updates

to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became fast

again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.



There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did the

whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...



Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation

hulpprogramma failed".



Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This

computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.



Then it continued rattling...



After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was

enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.



For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the

computer can function normally again.

(This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).



I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister was

also complaining about it.



It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!



One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?! and

did nothing about it !



I am very unhappy about this.



I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she can

sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but

ok...



She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her Windows

7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.



The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to come

visit.



However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.



I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep

functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...



After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64

pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function

normally.



However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason

too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at

least 2 times, maybe even more.



Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...

However without the patches computers would be trojaned.



My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she

immediatly recgonized the dangerous:



Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...



I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed weak

protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said... :)



All in all I am not happy with the situation.



I believe Microsoft should be punished for:



1. Wasting peoples time with defects.



2. Security risks.



Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:



In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and

it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on it's

core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are

working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply

increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.



If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to

blame.



Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft

Windows... HELL NO !!!



The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...

especially if I had to bill her for my time.



Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I do

not believe people should have to pay for it.



Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and money

at risk.



And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on

cars ?!? )



Don't make me laugh !



Bye,

Skybuck.
 
M

MowGreen

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.

Skybuck Flying wrote:

> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I do

> not believe people should have to pay for it.

>






Have your meds kicked in yet ? Good. Nighty night.





MowGreen

================

*-343-* FDNY

Never Forgotten

================



banthecheck.com

"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
 
D

Doum

"Skybuck Flying" écrivait

news:77564$4c0947bc$54190f09$13326@cache6.tilbu1.nb.home.nl:



> Hello,

>

> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I

> wanted to show her something on the computer/internet.

>

> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk

> was rattling non-stop.

>

> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner,

> this did not appear to be the case.

>

> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update

> since I never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share

> of failures with it...

> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic

> updates protected it a little bit.

>

> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to

> see what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic

> updates to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc

> became fast again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.

>

> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did

> the whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...

>

> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine

> Activation hulpprogramma failed".

>

> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This

> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.

>

> Then it continued rattling...

>

> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it

> was enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.

>

> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that

> the computer can function normally again.

> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

>

> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly

> sister was also complaining about it.

>

> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

>

> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?!

> and did nothing about it !

>

> I am very unhappy about this.

>

> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so

> she can sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or

> so... but ok...

>

> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her

> Windows 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.

>

> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to

> come visit.

>

> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.

>

> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep

> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...

>

> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp

> x64 pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to

> function normally.

>

> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good

> reason too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by

> Microsoft at least 2 times, maybe even more.

>

> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...

> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.

>

> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers

> she immediatly recgonized the dangerous:

>

> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...

>

> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed

> weak protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said... :)

>

> All in all I am not happy with the situation.

>

> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:

>

> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.

>

> 2. Security risks.

>

> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:

>

> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft

> and it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to

> focus on it's core components of it's operating system and make sure

> that those are working flawlessly instead of trying to create

> "bloatware" which simply increase attack vectors and requires more

> security patching.

>

> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft

> to blame.

>

> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft

> Windows... HELL NO !!!

>

> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...

> especially if I had to bill her for my time.

>

> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000%

> safe I do not believe people should have to pay for it.

>

> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and

> money at risk.

>

> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run

> on cars ?!? )

>

> Don't make me laugh !

>

> Bye,

> Skybuck.

>

>

>




And you are your mother's computer guru?



I feel sorry for her!
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Skybuck Flying wrote:



> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister

> was

> also complaining about it.

>

> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

>

> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?! and

> did nothing about it !

>

> I am very unhappy about this.




One can only imagine how unhappy you'd be and how much you b****h about it

if Microsoft could (somehow) notice it...
 
S

surodje

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.

On 4 jun, 20:36, "Skybuck Flying" wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted to

> show her something on the computer/internet.

>




Wat is dat Windows XP?



> Bye,

>   Skybuck.
 
D

Daave

Skybuck Flying wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I

> wanted to show her something on the computer/internet.

>

> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk

> was rattling non-stop.

>

> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner,

> this did not appear to be the case.

>

> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update

> since I never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share

> of failures with it...

> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic

> updates protected it a little bit.

>

> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to

> see what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows

> automatic updates to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it

> was the pc became fast again... I re-enabled it and went to the

> website.

> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it

> did the whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or

> so...

> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine

> Activation hulpprogramma failed".

>

> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This

> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.

>

> Then it continued rattling...

>

> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it

> was enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.

>

> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that

> the computer can function normally again.

> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

>

> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly

> sister was also complaining about it.

>

> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

>

> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it

> ?! and did nothing about it !

>

> I am very unhappy about this.

>

> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so

> she can sit below... this would require additional wireless routers

> or so... but ok...

>

> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her

> Windows 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.

>

> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to

> come visit.

>

> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.

>

> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep

> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...

>

> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp

> x64 pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to

> function normally.

>

> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good

> reason too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by

> Microsoft at least 2 times, maybe even more.

>

> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...

> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.

>

> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers

> she immediatly recgonized the dangerous:

>

> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...

>

> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's

> indeed weak protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I

> said... :)

> All in all I am not happy with the situation.

>

> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:

>

> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.

>

> 2. Security risks.

>

> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:

>

> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft

> and it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to

> focus on it's core components of it's operating system and make sure

> that those are working flawlessly instead of trying to create

> "bloatware" which simply increase attack vectors and requires more

> security patching.

> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft

> to blame.

>

> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft

> Windows... HELL NO !!!

>

> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...

> especially if I had to bill her for my time.

>

> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000%

> safe I do not believe people should have to pay for it.

>

> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and

> money at risk.

>

> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to

> run on cars ?!? )

>

> Don't make me laugh !

>

> Bye,

> Skybuck.




And *you* want to be *my* latex salesman?
 
M

MowGreen

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.

Daave wrote:

> And*you* want to be*my* latex salesman?




VanDelay Industries. How can I help you ?





MowGreen

================

*-343-* FDNY

Never Forgotten

================



banthecheck.com

"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Daave wrote:



>> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that

>> the computer can function normally again.

>> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

>>

>> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly

>> sister was also complaining about it.

>>

>> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

>>

>> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it

>> ?! and did nothing about it !

>>

>> I am very unhappy about this.




>

> And *you* want to be *my* latex salesman?
 
M

Mike S

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows AutomaticUpdate Problem = Very Slow Computer.

On 6/4/2010 11:36 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted to

> show her something on the computer/internet.

>

> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was

> rattling non-stop.

>

> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this

> did not appear to be the case.

>

> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since I

> never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures

> with it...

> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic updates

> protected it a little bit.

>

> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see

> what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic updates

> to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became fast

> again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.

>

> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did the

> whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...

>

> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation

> hulpprogramma failed".

>

> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This

> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.

>

> Then it continued rattling...

>

> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was

> enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.

>

> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the

> computer can function normally again.

> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

>

> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister was

> also complaining about it.

>

> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

>

> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?! and

> did nothing about it !

>

> I am very unhappy about this.

>

> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she can

> sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but

> ok...

>

> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her Windows

> 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.

>

> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to come

> visit.

>

> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.

>

> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep

> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...

>

> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64

> pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function

> normally.

>

> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason

> too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at

> least 2 times, maybe even more.

>

> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...

> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.

>

> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she

> immediatly recgonized the dangerous:

>

> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...

>

> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed weak

> protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said... :)

>

> All in all I am not happy with the situation.

>

> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:

>

> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.

>

> 2. Security risks.

>

> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:

>

> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and

> it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on it's

> core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are

> working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply

> increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.

>

> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to

> blame.

>

> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft

> Windows... HELL NO !!!

>

> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...

> especially if I had to bill her for my time.

>

> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I do

> not believe people should have to pay for it.

>

> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and money

> at risk.

>

> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on

> cars ?!? )

>

> Don't make me laugh !

>

> Bye,

> Skybuck.




If you don't like Windows try Ubuntu. Otherwise try this:



http://www.pchell.com/support/windowsgenuineadvantage.shtml
 
S

Skybuck Flying

"Mike S" wrote in message

news:huc2vv$2b3$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> On 6/4/2010 11:36 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:

>> Hello,

>>

>> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted

>> to

>> show her something on the computer/internet.

>>

>> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was

>> rattling non-stop.

>>

>> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this

>> did not appear to be the case.

>>

>> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since

>> I

>> never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures

>> with it...

>> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic

>> updates

>> protected it a little bit.

>>

>> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see

>> what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic

>> updates

>> to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became

>> fast

>> again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.

>>

>> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did

>> the

>> whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...

>>

>> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation

>> hulpprogramma failed".

>>

>> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This

>> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.

>>

>> Then it continued rattling...

>>

>> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was

>> enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.

>>

>> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the

>> computer can function normally again.

>> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

>>

>> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister

>> was

>> also complaining about it.

>>

>> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

>>

>> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?!

>> and

>> did nothing about it !

>>

>> I am very unhappy about this.

>>

>> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she

>> can

>> sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but

>> ok...

>>

>> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her

>> Windows

>> 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.

>>

>> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to

>> come

>> visit.

>>

>> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.

>>

>> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep

>> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...

>>

>> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64

>> pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function

>> normally.

>>

>> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason

>> too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at

>> least 2 times, maybe even more.

>>

>> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...

>> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.

>>

>> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she

>> immediatly recgonized the dangerous:

>>

>> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...

>>

>> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed

>> weak

>> protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said... :)

>>

>> All in all I am not happy with the situation.

>>

>> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:

>>

>> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.

>>

>> 2. Security risks.

>>

>> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:

>>

>> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and

>> it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on

>> it's

>> core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are

>> working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply

>> increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.

>>

>> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to

>> blame.

>>

>> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft

>> Windows... HELL NO !!!

>>

>> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...

>> especially if I had to bill her for my time.

>>

>> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I

>> do

>> not believe people should have to pay for it.

>>

>> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and

>> money

>> at risk.

>>

>> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on

>> cars ?!? )

>>

>> Don't make me laugh !

>>

>> Bye,

>> Skybuck.


>

> If you don't like Windows try Ubuntu. Otherwise try this:

>

> http://www.pchell.com/support/windowsgenuineadvantage.shtml




Ok, thx for the link I appreciate it... pretty ridicilous that this isn't

even a microsoft page ! ) :)



Next time I visit my mother I will give it a try and see if it helps.



I will have to visit her soon because next tuesday Microsoft will fix

another 32 security holes !



And suddenly I wonder what other holes have not been fixed yet because of

this problem.



Bye,

Skybuck.
 
M

Mark Adams

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automati

"Skybuck Flying" wrote:



>

> "Mike S" wrote in message

> news:huc2vv$2b3$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> > On 6/4/2010 11:36 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:

> >> Hello,

> >>

> >> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted

> >> to

> >> show her something on the computer/internet.

> >>

> >> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was

> >> rattling non-stop.

> >>

> >> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this

> >> did not appear to be the case.

> >>

> >> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since

> >> I

> >> never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures

> >> with it...

> >> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic

> >> updates

> >> protected it a little bit.

> >>

> >> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see

> >> what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic

> >> updates

> >> to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became

> >> fast

> >> again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.

> >>

> >> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did

> >> the

> >> whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...

> >>

> >> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation

> >> hulpprogramma failed".

> >>

> >> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This

> >> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.

> >>

> >> Then it continued rattling...

> >>

> >> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was

> >> enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.

> >>

> >> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the

> >> computer can function normally again.

> >> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

> >>

> >> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister

> >> was

> >> also complaining about it.

> >>

> >> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

> >>

> >> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?!

> >> and

> >> did nothing about it !

> >>

> >> I am very unhappy about this.

> >>

> >> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she

> >> can

> >> sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but

> >> ok...

> >>

> >> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her

> >> Windows

> >> 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.

> >>

> >> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to

> >> come

> >> visit.

> >>

> >> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.

> >>

> >> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep

> >> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...

> >>

> >> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64

> >> pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function

> >> normally.

> >>

> >> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason

> >> too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at

> >> least 2 times, maybe even more.

> >>

> >> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...

> >> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.

> >>

> >> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she

> >> immediatly recgonized the dangerous:

> >>

> >> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...

> >>

> >> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed

> >> weak

> >> protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said... :)

> >>

> >> All in all I am not happy with the situation.

> >>

> >> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:

> >>

> >> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.

> >>

> >> 2. Security risks.

> >>

> >> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:

> >>

> >> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and

> >> it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on

> >> it's

> >> core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are

> >> working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply

> >> increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.

> >>

> >> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to

> >> blame.

> >>

> >> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft

> >> Windows... HELL NO !!!

> >>

> >> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...

> >> especially if I had to bill her for my time.

> >>

> >> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I

> >> do

> >> not believe people should have to pay for it.

> >>

> >> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and

> >> money

> >> at risk.

> >>

> >> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on

> >> cars ?!? )

> >>

> >> Don't make me laugh !

> >>

> >> Bye,

> >> Skybuck.


> >

> > If you don't like Windows try Ubuntu. Otherwise try this:

> >

> > http://www.pchell.com/support/windowsgenuineadvantage.shtml


>

> Ok, thx for the link I appreciate it... pretty ridicilous that this isn't

> even a microsoft page ! ) :)

>

> Next time I visit my mother I will give it a try and see if it helps.

>

> I will have to visit her soon because next tuesday Microsoft will fix

> another 32 security holes !

>

> And suddenly I wonder what other holes have not been fixed yet because of

> this problem.

>

> Bye,

> Skybuck.

>

>




http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926333
 
M

Mark Adams

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automati

"Skybuck Flying" wrote:



>

> "Mike S" wrote in message

> news:huc2vv$2b3$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> > On 6/4/2010 11:36 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:

> >> Hello,

> >>

> >> Today I visitted my mother for a nice dinner, after the dinner I wanted

> >> to

> >> show her something on the computer/internet.

> >>

> >> I noticed how the computer was extremely slow, and how the harddisk was

> >> rattling non-stop.

> >>

> >> First I was wondering if it was infected with a trojan or a scanner, this

> >> did not appear to be the case.

> >>

> >> Then I immediatly started wondering about windows automatic update since

> >> I

> >> never trusted it to function properly... I have seen my share of failures

> >> with it...

> >> however the computer is pretty much unmanaged so at least automatic

> >> updates

> >> protected it a little bit.

> >>

> >> I decided to go to the windows update website for manual updating to see

> >> what was going on... before I did that I stopped windows automatic

> >> updates

> >> to verify that it was indeed the culprit and yes it was the pc became

> >> fast

> >> again... I re-enabled it and went to the website.

> >>

> >> There it took a very long time before there was any feedback... it did

> >> the

> >> whole rattle thing over again... I took like 10 minutes or so...

> >>

> >> Then it displayed some warning/error message: "Windows Genuine Activation

> >> hulpprogramma failed".

> >>

> >> Apperently Microsoft now believes the computer is not genuine ?!? This

> >> computer was bought at a big retailer and should be genuine.

> >>

> >> Then it continued rattling...

> >>

> >> After having wasted 20 minutes of my life on this b.s. I decided it was

> >> enough and shutdown the iexplore.exe.

> >>

> >> For the time being I have disabled windows automatic updates so that the

> >> computer can function normally again.

> >> (This is on windows xp (NL) netherlands edition).

> >>

> >> I ask my mother how long this has been going on since my elderly sister

> >> was

> >> also complaining about it.

> >>

> >> It turns out this has been going on for one month !!!

> >>

> >> One full month of slow computer and Microsoft didn't even notice it ?!

> >> and

> >> did nothing about it !

> >>

> >> I am very unhappy about this.

> >>

> >> I have consulted with my mother... she wants to buy a new laptop so she

> >> can

> >> sit below... this would require additional wireless routers or so... but

> >> ok...

> >>

> >> She wants windows 7 because she hard about it... However I told her

> >> Windows

> >> 7 is a risk because of it's on-going-security problems.

> >>

> >> The old computer can then still be around for the kids to use when to

> >> come

> >> visit.

> >>

> >> However windows xp nl 32 bit version is about to end it's life cycle.

> >>

> >> I said to her and decided that the old computer can continue to keep

> >> functioning until it gets trojaned/hacked and so forth...

> >>

> >> After that happens I might pirate the computer and install windows xp x64

> >> pro edition which at least is still supported and does seem to function

> >> normally.

> >>

> >> However I always have windows automatic updates off and for good reason

> >> too... if I had it on my computer would have been toasted by Microsoft at

> >> least 2 times, maybe even more.

> >>

> >> Windows Automatic Updates/The cure seems to be worse than sickness...

> >> However without the patches computers would be trojaned.

> >>

> >> My mother was very smart... when she started about wireless routers she

> >> immediatly recgonized the dangerous:

> >>

> >> Wireless routers are unsafe... she wants to do banking across it...

> >>

> >> I told her... well safety has improved a little bit... but it's indeed

> >> weak

> >> protection... I concurred... you are a smart mother I said... :)

> >>

> >> All in all I am not happy with the situation.

> >>

> >> I believe Microsoft should be punished for:

> >>

> >> 1. Wasting peoples time with defects.

> >>

> >> 2. Security risks.

> >>

> >> Here is my advice for Microsoft/you for now in the future:

> >>

> >> In case of though legislation being introduced to go after Microsoft and

> >> it's malfunctions... it would be much smarter for Microsoft to focus on

> >> it's

> >> core components of it's operating system and make sure that those are

> >> working flawlessly instead of trying to create "bloatware" which simply

> >> increase attack vectors and requires more security patching.

> >>

> >> If computer do get infected by flash then at least it's not Microsoft to

> >> blame.

> >>

> >> Do I believe my mother should pay 400 dollars/euro's for Microsoft

> >> Windows... HELL NO !!!

> >>

> >> The risks and costs of it to keep it working well are much higher...

> >> especially if I had to bill her for my time.

> >>

> >> Until Microsoft delivers an operating system which is 100.0000000% safe I

> >> do

> >> not believe people should have to pay for it.

> >>

> >> Instead Microsoft should be fined for putting people's time, life and

> >> money

> >> at risk.

> >>

> >> And yet Microsoft is the same company which wants it's software to run on

> >> cars ?!? )

> >>

> >> Don't make me laugh !

> >>

> >> Bye,

> >> Skybuck.


> >

> > If you don't like Windows try Ubuntu. Otherwise try this:

> >

> > http://www.pchell.com/support/windowsgenuineadvantage.shtml


>

> Ok, thx for the link I appreciate it... pretty ridicilous that this isn't

> even a microsoft page ! ) :)

>

> Next time I visit my mother I will give it a try and see if it helps.

>

> I will have to visit her soon because next tuesday Microsoft will fix

> another 32 security holes !

>

> And suddenly I wonder what other holes have not been fixed yet because of

> this problem.

>

> Bye,

> Skybuck.

>

>




http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926333
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer. (Messy windows update log available)

A couple of days ago I was at my mother place again... and I tried to fix it

and wasted another 1 hour and 30 mins of my life.



I was unable to fix it.



Windows update displays error: 0x800A01CE



Apperently there is a windows update log... I collected both files and put

them in a WinRar file so that maybe somebody

could take a look at it and see what the problem is:



The file is available on the following link:



http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/WindowsLogVeryMessy.rar



The folder is:



http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/



Bye,

Skybuck.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer. (Messy windows update log available)

Thread history:

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/27f5069955604a61



0x800A01CE

The remote server machine does not exist or is unavailable



Is WinXP SP3 installed?



What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?

What third-party firewall (if any)?



Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought

it)?

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002





Skybuck Flying wrote:

> A couple of days ago I was at my mother place again... and I tried to fix

> it

> and wasted another 1 hour and 30 mins of my life.

>

> I was unable to fix it.

>

> Windows update displays error: 0x800A01CE

>

> Apperently there is a windows update log... I collected both files and put

> them in a WinRar file so that maybe somebody

> could take a look at it and see what the problem is:

>

> The file is available on the following link:

>

> http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/WindowsLogVeryMessy.rar

>

> The folder is:

>

> http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/
 
S

Skybuck Flying

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer. (Messy windows update log available)

By the way... I did try to re-install flash last sunday when I was there...

(flash 10.1 I think it was)



It totally failed with a very long error message/number... something like:



00000000_00000000000000000000000000etc.



(I also had problems installing the latest flash on my own machine... I

managed to solve it somehow... I think I used

a special program to fix it or so... I'll have to look into that... This

could be unrelated to the windows update problem though.

So this could just be a seperate issue with flash.).



Bye,

Skybuck.



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

news:uGoZLIuELHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Thread history:

> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/27f5069955604a61

>

> 0x800A01CE

> The remote server machine does not exist or is unavailable

>

> Is WinXP SP3 installed?

>

> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?

>

> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you

> bought it)?

> --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>

>

> Skybuck Flying wrote:

>> A couple of days ago I was at my mother place again... and I tried to fix

>> it

>> and wasted another 1 hour and 30 mins of my life.

>>

>> I was unable to fix it.

>>

>> Windows update displays error: 0x800A01CE

>>

>> Apperently there is a windows update log... I collected both files and

>> put

>> them in a WinRar file so that maybe somebody

>> could take a look at it and see what the problem is:

>>

>> The file is available on the following link:

>>

>> http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/WindowsLogVeryMessy.rar

>>

>> The folder is:

>>

>> http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/


>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer. (Messy windows update log available)

Wipe & reload.



Skybuck Flying wrote:

> By the way... I did try to re-install flash last sunday when I was

> there...

> (flash 10.1 I think it was)

>

> It totally failed with a very long error message/number... something like:

>

> 00000000_00000000000000000000000000etc.

>

> (I also had problems installing the latest flash on my own machine... I

> managed to solve it somehow... I think I used

> a special program to fix it or so... I'll have to look into that... This

> could be unrelated to the windows update problem though.

> So this could just be a seperate issue with flash.).

>

> Bye,

> Skybuck.

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

> news:uGoZLIuELHA.5668@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Thread history:

>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/27f5069955604a61

>>

>> 0x800A01CE

>> The remote server machine does not exist or is unavailable

>>

>> Is WinXP SP3 installed?

>>

>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

>> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

>> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?

>>

>> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you

>> bought it)?

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>>

>>

>> Skybuck Flying wrote:

>>> A couple of days ago I was at my mother place again... and I tried to

>>> fix

>>> it

>>> and wasted another 1 hour and 30 mins of my life.

>>>

>>> I was unable to fix it.

>>>

>>> Windows update displays error: 0x800A01CE

>>>

>>> Apperently there is a windows update log... I collected both files and

>>> put

>>> them in a WinRar file so that maybe somebody

>>> could take a look at it and see what the problem is:

>>>

>>> The file is available on the following link:

>>>

>>> http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/WindowsLogVeryMessy.rar

>>>

>>> The folder is:

>>>

>>> http://members.home.nl/hbthouppermans/MotherPCWindowsUpdateLog/
 

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