logoff&standby

[Jim]

Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP
Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me. Unfortunately,
when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the APM
does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby mode
leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of screen.
If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing
happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the
machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it gets
in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do to
get this security feature working properly?

 

[PCR]

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23yLYFNa6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
| Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a
| HP Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me.
| Unfortunately, when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the
| local_machine on standby, the APM does this, but about a minute later
| the machine comes up out of standby mode leaving the screen blank
| with a cursor blinking in the upper left of screen. If the user
| chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing happens.
| If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the
| machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as
| it gets in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on
| what to do to get this security feature working properly?

I've never had to deal with that. Others have said it may not be easy.
Here are some articles, but you have not mentioned any error messages...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us188246&Product=w98
Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...
(188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium
Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error
message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver or
program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us232728&Product=w98
Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode
(232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you may
receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on standby
because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open
programs, and then try again.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us232902&Product=w98
Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer
(232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode, you
may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all
open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us232942&Product=w98
Error Message Disables Power Management Events
(232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot go
into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:

 

[Jim]

> I've never had to deal with that. Others have said it may not be easy.
> Here are some articles, but you have not mentioned any error messages...

I'll take a look at those articles, but I think it is a hardware problem at
this point in time. Yes, I have seen those error messages before, but not
with this situation.

 

[PCR]

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
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|> I've never had to deal with that. Others have said it may not be
|> easy. Here are some articles, but you have not mentioned any error
|> messages...
|
| I'll take a look at those articles, but I think it is a hardware
| problem at this point in time. Yes, I have seen those error messages
| before, but not with this situation.

Keep us informed. It could be tough to deal with, which is why I dread
the day Standby will fail to work for me! I hardly use it any more,
though-- but I do see that your situation is different. If you should
decide you cannot get it back, try relaxing the settings at... "Control
Panel, Power Management"... to turn off the monitor only. That's
probably the biggest power consumer, as someone once said before me.

There are actually 46 articles that mention "Standby" at...
http://search.support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1&spid=1139 MSKB
Search "Standby" Windows 98 This Product First Full Text All Words
AnyTime.

Here are just a few more...

• Windows Does Not Go Into or Resume from Standby Mode
(187285) - When you attempt to put Windows 98 in Standby mode by
clicking Start, clicking Shut Down, clicking Stand By, and then clicking
OK, Windows 98 may not go into Standby mode. If Windows 98 does go into
Standby mode, you may be unable to resume from...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187285/en-us

• Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box
(188134) - When you click Start, and then click Shut Down, the Standby
option may be missing from the Shut Down Windows dialog box. ... issue
can occur for any of the following reasons: When you received the
following message, you clicked Yes: The last few times your computer
went on standby it stopped ...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188134/en-us

• Computer Is Unable to Go to Standby Mode
(189619) - When your computer has been inactive long enough for it to go
to Standby mode, it may not go to Standby mode. Also, you may receive a
message that says your computer will standby in 15 seconds, but your
computer may not go to Standby mode.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/189619/en-us

• Computer Hangs When Putting Windows 98 Into Standby Mode
(188100) - When you attempt to put your Windows 98-based computer into
Standby mode, your computer may stop responding (hang). ... This program
installs an outdated version of the Vmlid.nlm file that can interfere
with Standby mode.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188100/en-us

• Computer Appears to Hang When You Resume from Standby Mode
(190362) - When you attempt to resume your computer from Standby mode,
your computer may appear to stop responding (hang), and only a blinking
cursor may be displayed on a black screen. ... following conditions
exist: You use the keyboard or a power management timer to put your
computer into Standby mode.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/190362/en-us

 

[ernie]

Did any new peripheral get installed, the NIC for instance? I had a NIC that
prevented the resume from standby similarly to what you describe but didn't
attempt to resume on its own, it died and the replacement gave no such
problem.

I have the ACPI bios, which does
not use APM afaik. Check for problems in Device manager, there should not be
any APM devices, Unknown devices or duplicates nor error flags.

HTH,
ern.

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:#yLYFNa6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP
> Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me. Unfortunately,
> when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the
APM
> does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby
mode
> leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of
screen.
> If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing
> happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the
> machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it
gets
> in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do to
> get this security feature working properly?
>
>

 

[Jim]

The NIC was factory installed. All you need is the adaptor activated in
Network configuration components.

The APM is a predecessor of ACPI bios which both are windows GUI. [I have
ACPI]. Sometimes it is referred to in a hierarchal way like the ACPI of the
"Advanced Power Management". Also, the BIOS has "APM" and it is set to
[customized] by factory default so you can control this from the windows
GUI. It may be that the user needs to set the [enable] shutdown and
[timeout] for standby for HDD in the BIOS. But then why customize for the
windows GUI?

There are some tweaks in System>Device manager>PCI Bus>Bridge>Ethernet
properties "power management" tab.
These are checked. I did uncheck "allow the device to bring the computer out
of standby", but no luck.

The above paragraph may be a semantics issue but that was the state of its
development at the time of these machines manufacture. Windows 95B and 98
may have had APM and 98 2nd Ed. and above had ACPI.

"ernie" <ernie@unspam.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OONsW%23$6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Did any new peripheral get installed, the NIC for instance? I had a NIC
that
> prevented the resume from standby similarly to what you describe but
didn't
> attempt to resume on its own, it died and the replacement gave no such
> problem.
>
> I have the ACPI bios, which does
> not use APM afaik. Check for problems in Device manager, there should not
be
> any APM devices, Unknown devices or duplicates nor error flags.
>
> HTH,
> ern.
>
> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:#yLYFNa6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP
> > Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me.
Unfortunately,
> > when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the
> APM
> > does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby
> mode
> > leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of
> screen.
> > If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing
> > happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring
the
> > machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it
> gets
> > in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do
to
> > get this security feature working properly?
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:42:36 -0400, "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP
>Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me. Unfortunately,
>when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the APM
>does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby mode
>leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of screen.
>If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing
>happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the
>machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it gets
>in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do to
>get this security feature working properly?

I sometimes get the blinking cursor in the upper LH corner after
coming out of standby. FWIW, my machine, a socket 7 box, does not have
ACPI.

The problem occurs about 5% of the time, or maybe less, so I have not
given much thought to troubleshooting it.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[ernie]

You may not have had the time to check all of PCR's search results but it is
worth pointing out that duplicates in Device Manager often show up in Safe
Mode which don't in Normal Mode. My NIC is attached in the "By Connection"
view to the PCI Bus without the "Bridge" intervening.

Yes, my BIOS setup prog. has that Power management/APM setting currently set
at Disabled,
but that still leaves some settings available, it sounds that you have
checked them out.

This computer had Windows 98 first edition and the ACPI bios
detected/installed whereas my previous one had Win98se and APM so it is more
a matter of hardware though that has advanced historically.
HTH,
ern.

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> The NIC was factory installed. All you need is the adaptor activated in
> Network configuration components.
>
> The APM is a predecessor of ACPI bios which both are windows GUI. [I have
> ACPI]. Sometimes it is referred to in a hierarchal way like the ACPI of
the
> "Advanced Power Management". Also, the BIOS has "APM" and it is set to
> [customized] by factory default so you can control this from the windows
> GUI. It may be that the user needs to set the [enable] shutdown and
> [timeout] for standby for HDD in the BIOS. But then why customize for the
> windows GUI?
>
> There are some tweaks in System>Device manager>PCI Bus>Bridge>Ethernet
> properties "power management" tab.
> These are checked. I did uncheck "allow the device to bring the computer
out
> of standby", but no luck.
>
> The above paragraph may be a semantics issue but that was the state of its
> development at the time of these machines manufacture. Windows 95B and 98
> may have had APM and 98 2nd Ed. and above had ACPI.
>
> "ernie" <ernie@unspam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:OONsW%23$6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Did any new peripheral get installed, the NIC for instance? I had a NIC
> that
> > prevented the resume from standby similarly to what you describe but
> didn't
> > attempt to resume on its own, it died and the replacement gave no such
> > problem.
> >
> > I have the ACPI bios, which does
> > not use APM afaik. Check for problems in Device manager, there should
not
> be
> > any APM devices, Unknown devices or duplicates nor error flags.
> >
> > HTH,
> > ern.
> >
> > "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:#yLYFNa6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a
HP
> > > Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me.
> Unfortunately,
> > > when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby,
the
> > APM
> > > does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of
standby
> > mode
> > > leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of
> > screen.
> > > If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same
thing
> > > happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring
> the
> > > machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as
it
> > gets
> > > in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to
do
> to
> > > get this security feature working properly?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>