defragmenter in vista

A

Andy

If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?

Thanks,

Andy.
 
A

Andrew McLaren

"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote ...
> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?



Maybe defrag is already running in the background? You can't have more than
one instance of dfrgui.exe running at the same time. If you try to start a
second instance, it may silently fail.

Look in Task Manager to see if there is an instance of dfgui.exe already
running.

Also not that Defrag in Vista does not provide the colourful UI from
previous versions. Defrag was re-written by Microsoft to remove the last of
the code licensed from Executive Software and also to get a security
review. It was noted that the old GUI, although appealing, was actually an
extremely inaccuarate picture of what was really happening on the disk. Also
in Vista, defrag is scheduled to run silently in the background, so a glossy
UI was less important than before. In Vista, all you get is the "Disk
Defragmanter" dialogue box, with a "Run on a Schedule" option (selected by
default) and a "Defragment Now" button to kick off a manual defrag.

If you have no instances of Defrag currently running or scheduled, and you
cannot get even this minimal Defrag, then, yeah: you may have a problem.

Hope it helps,
--
Andrew McLaren
amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au
 
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brink

Andy375551 Wrote:
> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy.


Hi Andy,

Are you clicking it from shortcut, typing "dfrgui" in Start Menu's
white line (Start Search) area, or straight from
"C:\Windows\System32\dfrgui.exe"? There is another file called
"Defrag.exe" in system32. It will do nothing but flash a quick command
prompt on and off.

Here is a link for a free defrag program, in the mean time, called
"Auslogics Disk Defrag" that is great with a progress status graph and
it's faster.

'Disk Defrag - Reclaim the Speed Of Your Disks'
(http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/)

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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A

Andy

Thanks, I checked and Defragmenter wasnt/isnt running already in the
background.

Andy.



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"Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message
news:5C334A79-A1FE-4239-A023-A196D22C3F96@microsoft.com...
> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote ...
>> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
>> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?

>
>
> Maybe defrag is already running in the background? You can't have more
> than one instance of dfrgui.exe running at the same time. If you try to
> start a second instance, it may silently fail.
>
> Look in Task Manager to see if there is an instance of dfgui.exe already
> running.
>
> Also not that Defrag in Vista does not provide the colourful UI from
> previous versions. Defrag was re-written by Microsoft to remove the last
> of the code licensed from Executive Software and also to get a security
> review. It was noted that the old GUI, although appealing, was actually an
> extremely inaccuarate picture of what was really happening on the disk.
> Also in Vista, defrag is scheduled to run silently in the background, so a
> glossy UI was less important than before. In Vista, all you get is the
> "Disk Defragmanter" dialogue box, with a "Run on a Schedule" option
> (selected by default) and a "Defragment Now" button to kick off a manual
> defrag.
>
> If you have no instances of Defrag currently running or scheduled, and you
> cannot get even this minimal Defrag, then, yeah: you may have a problem.
>
> Hope it helps,
> --
> Andrew McLaren
> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au
>
 
A

Andy

Thanks, C:\Windows\System32\dfrgui.exe I was clicking on. If I go into
command prompt in windows and select Defrag.exe then that works. But what I
have done now is downloaded that http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/
program and that seems to be going good. Strange I cannot get dfrgui.exe to
work though, maybe a service hasn't initialised?

Thanks again for the link to the program.

Andy.


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"brink" <brink.2th9p3@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:brink.2th9p3@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> Andy375551 Wrote:
>> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
>> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andy.

>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Are you clicking it from shortcut, typing "dfrgui" in Start Menu's
> white line (Start Search) area, or straight from
> "C:\Windows\System32\dfrgui.exe"? There is another file called
> "Defrag.exe" in system32. It will do nothing but flash a quick command
> prompt on and off.
>
> Here is a link for a free defrag program, in the mean time, called
> "Auslogics Disk Defrag" that is great with a progress status graph and
> it's faster.
>
> 'Disk Defrag - Reclaim the Speed Of Your Disks'
> (http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
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> *Please post feedback to help others.*
 
A

Andrew McLaren

"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote ...
> Thanks, I checked and Defragmenter wasnt/isnt running already in the
> background.



Hmm, in that case ... sorry, I dunno.

I'd suggest check in the Windows System and Application Event logs (in
Adminstrative Tools) to see if any events are logged about why Defrag cannot
lauch (eg it might be silently crashing, etc).

Also, go to Control Panel, System and Maintenance, Problem Reports and
Solutions, to see if Windows has detected an error in Defrag (eg the process
ended with an access violation, etc instead of a normal ExitProcess).

Also, try running the EXE from an administrative Command Prompt - dfgrui.exe
requires administrative elavation, there may be something blocking process
elevation when you try to launch it from the GUI??

Apart from that ... sorry, I dunno :-(
--
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amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au
 
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brink

Andy375666 Wrote:
> Thanks, C:\Windows\System32\dfrgui.exe I was clicking on. If I go into
> command prompt in windows and select Defrag.exe then that works. But
> what I
> have done now is downloaded that 'Disk Defrag - Reclaim the Speed Of
> Your Disks' (http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/)
> program and that seems to be going good. Strange I cannot get
> dfrgui.exe to
> work though, maybe a service hasn't initialised?
>
> Thanks again for the link to the program.
>
> Andy.
>
>


Andy,

Your welcome. Have you tried doing a restart to see if maybe it was
just a temporary fluke caused by some conflict?

Shawn


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A

Andy

"brink" <brink.2thel0@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> Andy375666 Wrote:
>> Thanks, C:\Windows\System32\dfrgui.exe I was clicking on. If I go into
>> command prompt in windows and select Defrag.exe then that works. But
>> what I
>> have done now is downloaded that 'Disk Defrag - Reclaim the Speed Of
>> Your Disks' (http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/)
>> program and that seems to be going good. Strange I cannot get
>> dfrgui.exe to
>> work though, maybe a service hasn't initialised?
>>
>> Thanks again for the link to the program.
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>>

>
> Andy,
>
> Your welcome. Have you tried doing a restart to see if maybe it was
> just a temporary fluke caused by some conflict?
>
> Shawn
>


Thanks, yes I tried restart but it seems to have been disabled like that for
some time. Never mind that free defrag program seemed to work fine and I
like it better than the normal XP/Vista one anyway because of the graphics,
I find there is something quite satisfying about seeing the blocks moving
around like that whilst its defragging the drive! :)

Andy.
 
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The poster formly known as Nina DiBoy

Andy wrote:
> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy.
>
>
>


Search for AusLogics disk defrag. Better than vista's built in defrag,
free, and vista compatible.

Have you also checked to make sure your defrag service is not disabled?

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brink

Andy376155 Wrote:
>
> Thanks, yes I tried restart but it seems to have been disabled like
> that for
> some time. Never mind that free defrag program seemed to work fine and
> I
> like it better than the normal XP/Vista one anyway because of the
> graphics,
> I find there is something quite satisfying about seeing the blocks
> moving
> around like that whilst its defragging the drive! :)
>
> Andy.


Ok Andy,

I would have to agree with you on that it is better than Vista's.

Shawn


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DevilsPGD

In message <f6vspo$jq3$1@news.datemas.de> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote:

>I find there is something quite satisfying about seeing the blocks moving
>around like that whilst its defragging the drive! :)


You could always download an AVI and play that, if it makes you feel
better.

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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:12:57 -0500, ex-Nina DiBoy wrote:
>Andy wrote:


>> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
>> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?


>Search for AusLogics disk defrag. Better than vista's built in defrag


Apparently not, in terms of what it does (as tested by a site that
compared several such things). At least it has a better UI, tho.

>free, and vista compatible.


Also waves a prominent "download me!" button for what looks like
feeware snakeoil. If you dislike the adware flavor, pass this one.

>Have you also checked to make sure your defrag service is not disabled?




>------------------------- ---- --- -- - - - -

I'm on a ten-year lunch break
>------------------------- ---- --- -- - - - -
 
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The poster formly known as Nina DiBoy

cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:12:57 -0500, ex-Nina DiBoy wrote:
>> Andy wrote:

>
>>> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
>>> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?

>
>> Search for AusLogics disk defrag. Better than vista's built in defrag

>
> Apparently not, in terms of what it does (as tested by a site that
> compared several such things). At least it has a better UI, tho.
>
>> free, and vista compatible.

>
> Also waves a prominent "download me!" button for what looks like
> feeware snakeoil. If you dislike the adware flavor, pass this one.


Softpedia says it is adware and spyware free:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/Auslogics-Disk-Defrag.shtml

"Softpedia guarantees that Auslogics Disk Defrag 1.1.5.225 is 100%
CLEAN, which means it does not contain any form of malware, including
but not limited to: spyware, viruses, trojans and backdoors."

Of course if one is already using Vista, then they are not too concerned
about protecting their privacy or with the MS malware on their machine.

>
>> Have you also checked to make sure your defrag service is not disabled?

>
>
>
>> ------------------------- ---- --- -- - - - -

> I'm on a ten-year lunch break
>> ------------------------- ---- --- -- - - - -




--
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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"They hacked the Microsoft website to make it think a linux box was a
windows box. Thats called hacking. People who do hacking are called
hackers."

"Good poets borrow great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
A

Andy

I finally think I have found out what was stopping it - the Task scheduler
service was disabled now I have enabled it the Vista Defrag program seems to
work. Thanks for all the replies everyone.

Andy.






"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
news:f6ueqm$oum$1@news.datemas.de...
> If I click on defragmenter in vista (dfrgui.exe) in my vista zilch
> happens! - it wont start, anyone know why please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy.
>
>
>
 
B

brink

Andy379929 Wrote:
> I finally think I have found out what was stopping it - the Task
> scheduler
> service was disabled now I have enabled it the Vista Defrag program
> seems to
> work. Thanks for all the replies everyone.
>
> Andy.
>
>


Ah, of course. The one place we forgot to look. (haha)

Glad to hear it is working now.

Shawn


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