98SE and Linux

[Tony Yarwood]

Hi guys

Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
favourite n/g first

Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
Ubuntu.

Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
pointers to an apt website?

My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.

Many thanks in advance.

Best regards

Tony

 

[Don Phillipson]

"Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...

> Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
> pointers to an apt website?
> My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
> partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.

There now are several different self-installing varieties
of Linux. I tried two distro of Xandros (Debian), one
downloadable from the company web site as a time-
limited free trial, the other unlimited, distributed free
on disk with a British Linux magazine.

They were different in that the downloadable saw both
hard drives but the disc instal routine only the first HDD.
But both worked OK (making space for themselves for
two Linux drives, swap and data, without loss of data
on FAT32 driives) and both installed an effective boot
manager, that presents a menu at reboot requiring the
user to select Linux or Win98.

The range of application software (e.g. database tools,
audio editors) is much smaller in Linux than in Windows,
and the Linux system appears slower than Win98,
perhaps because I lack the skills to speed it up. But
the graphic user interface is satisfactory and Linux is
still supported by a significant user community that
donates their inventions to the public domain (just as
in MS-DOS 25 years ago.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 

[Tony Yarwood]

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:57:52 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
<d.phillipsonSPAMBLOCK@rogers.com> wrote:

Hi Don
>
>There now are several different self-installing varieties
>of Linux. I tried two distro of Xandros (Debian), one
>downloadable from the company web site as a time-
>limited free trial, the other unlimited, distributed free
>on disk with a British Linux magazine.

I got a live version of Ubuntu, it gives the option later if you like
it to install.
>
> and both installed an effective boot
>manager, that presents a menu at reboot requiring the
>user to select Linux or Win98.

Sounds good, I'm using Acronis at the moment, I'll have to have a look
inside it, I've a feeling that they've got some sort of boot manager.
>
>The range of application software (e.g. database tools,
>audio editors) is much smaller in Linux than in Windows,
>and the Linux system appears slower than Win98,
>perhaps because I lack the skills to speed it up. But
>the graphic user interface is satisfactory and Linux is
>still supported by a significant user community that
>donates their inventions to the public domain (just as
>in MS-DOS 25 years ago.)

Yeah..I've got a fondness for open source software, I'm sure it's the
way of the future, plus xp sucks

Best regards

Tony

 

[Hugh Candlin]

--
"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."

"Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...
> Hi guys
>
> Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
> favourite n/g first
>
> Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
> booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
> wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
> Ubuntu.
>
> Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
> pointers to an apt website?
>
> My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
> partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards
>
> Tony

Subscribe to alt.os.linux.ubuntu

Free CDs can be requested , or you can download if you prefer, at.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

Also check out

http://ubuntuforums.org/

https://help.ubuntu.com/

 

[Tony Yarwood]

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:26:26 -0700, "Hugh Candlin" <sure@dream.on>
wrote:

>Subscribe to alt.os.linux.ubuntu

Thanks..done.
>
>Free CDs can be requested , or you can download if you prefer, at.
>
Got one already.

>http://www.ubuntu.com/
>
>Also check out
>
>http://ubuntuforums.org/
>
>https://help.ubuntu.com/

Many thanks for your time and trouble.

Best regards

Tony

 

[philo]

"Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...
> Hi guys
>
> Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
> favourite n/g first
>
> Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
> booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
> wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
> Ubuntu.
>
> Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
> pointers to an apt website?
>
> My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
> partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.


No problem dual booting windows and linux...

first...partition the drive into two sections

install windows first...
then use the free space to install linux

Note: If you are getting some pretty new H/W you may have some real problems
finding drivers etc for win98.
I really suggest going with win2k rather than win98

 

[Stan]

I'm running 98 and Ubuntu 6.06 now. No problems excetp that my 98 box is old
and I'm on dialup I can't find a Linux driver for this old dialup modem. If
your on dialup, Ubuntu has few drivers for dialup modems. Getting broadband
in a few days.

"Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...
> Hi guys
>
> Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
> favourite n/g first
>
> Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
> booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
> wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
> Ubuntu.
>
> Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
> pointers to an apt website?
>
> My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
> partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards
>
> Tony

 

[Tony Yarwood]

Hi guys

Many thanks to everybody for their time and trouble to post such a
bunch of informative answers to my question.

Best regards to all.

Tony

 

[Dan]

I disagree. If you want a business environment and want New Technology (NT)
then go with Windows 2000. If you are a consumer who wants to play DOS games
and run older 9x programs like the educational Space program for Windows 3.1
that teachers use in elementary schools then go with Windows 98 Second
Edition. I think dual booting with 98 Second Edition and XP Professional on
2 hard drives provides you with the best of both worlds, imo because then you
get 9x (with some true DOS) and NT technology for more modern programs like
Itunes if you have an Ipod. Although, 98SE reached the end of its life on
July 11, 2006, Microsoft professionals from India have told me that they
dual-boot their computers like I do.

"philo" wrote:

>
> "Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...
> > Hi guys
> >
> > Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
> > favourite n/g first
> >
> > Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
> > booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
> > wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
> > Ubuntu.
> >
> > Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
> > pointers to an apt website?
> >
> > My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
> > partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.
>
>
> No problem dual booting windows and linux...
>
> first...partition the drive into two sections
>
> install windows first...
> then use the free space to install linux
>
> Note: If you are getting some pretty new H/W you may have some real problems
> finding drivers etc for win98.
> I really suggest going with win2k rather than win98
>
>
>

 

[Bob Harris]

A few years ago I was having stability problems with 98 on a circa 1998 450
MHz Pentium II with 128 Meg RAM, so I tried Red Hat LINUX, version 7.

It automatically installed itself as a dual boot, with an easy-to-use boot
manager.

That version of Red Hat was better than 98 on my PC, both in terms of speed
and stability. It also came with several application programs.

I eventually gave up on Red Hat, because my ISP did not support LINUX. At
the time my ISP was AOL. With hindsight, I now realize that I should have
changed ISPs. Since then I has switched to high-speed internet via my cable
company, and AOL is a fading memory.

More recently I have been playing with KNOPPIX, which is a bootable CD (or
DVD) on my current PC, which is a Pentium 4 2.5 GHz with 1Gig RAM (circa
2003). The DVD version contains more applications programs than the CD
version. KNOPPIX loads into RAM, then loads applications form the CD (or
DVD). By default it does not install on the hard drive, so it is a safe
thing to test to get a feel for a modern LINUX. However, there is an option
to install, if you wish. On my PC KNOPPIX is faster than XP, at least once
it loads from the CD (or DVD). KNOPPIX automatically configured the
internet connection, and just about everything else. Note that KNOPPIX is a
large download for the CD version and even larger for the DVD version.
Links to KNOPPIX and its documentation:

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Main_Page

If you wish to experience LINUX, before commiting to it, try one of the
free "live CDs" found at the following website, or KNOPPIX listed above.
They come in many sizes and flavors. Some with run on pre-pentium CPUs and
little RAM, others probably run best on a pentium 4 with a lot of RAM. Many
come with application programs:

http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php

Note: Nearly all live CDs come as ISO files, which you must turn into CDs
using a program like Nero or Easy CD Creator, which support burn-from-image.
A simple drag&drop to a CD will not result in a bootable CD.

Note: To boot from a CD your BIOS must be set to boot from CD before hard
drive. I usually set the boot order as floppy, then CD, then hard drive.

"Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...
> Hi guys
>
> Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
> favourite n/g first
>
> Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
> booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
> wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
> Ubuntu.
>
> Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
> pointers to an apt website?
>
> My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
> partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards
>
> Tony

 

[Dan]

Which Unix/Linux flavor is best and why? My biggest interests are in terms
of security first and compatibility with software second.

"Bob Harris" wrote:

> A few years ago I was having stability problems with 98 on a circa 1998 450
> MHz Pentium II with 128 Meg RAM, so I tried Red Hat LINUX, version 7.
>
> It automatically installed itself as a dual boot, with an easy-to-use boot
> manager.
>
> That version of Red Hat was better than 98 on my PC, both in terms of speed
> and stability. It also came with several application programs.
>
> I eventually gave up on Red Hat, because my ISP did not support LINUX. At
> the time my ISP was AOL. With hindsight, I now realize that I should have
> changed ISPs. Since then I has switched to high-speed internet via my cable
> company, and AOL is a fading memory.
>
> More recently I have been playing with KNOPPIX, which is a bootable CD (or
> DVD) on my current PC, which is a Pentium 4 2.5 GHz with 1Gig RAM (circa
> 2003). The DVD version contains more applications programs than the CD
> version. KNOPPIX loads into RAM, then loads applications form the CD (or
> DVD). By default it does not install on the hard drive, so it is a safe
> thing to test to get a feel for a modern LINUX. However, there is an option
> to install, if you wish. On my PC KNOPPIX is faster than XP, at least once
> it loads from the CD (or DVD). KNOPPIX automatically configured the
> internet connection, and just about everything else. Note that KNOPPIX is a
> large download for the CD version and even larger for the DVD version.
> Links to KNOPPIX and its documentation:
>
> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
> http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Main_Page
>
> If you wish to experience LINUX, before commiting to it, try one of the
> free "live CDs" found at the following website, or KNOPPIX listed above.
> They come in many sizes and flavors. Some with run on pre-pentium CPUs and
> little RAM, others probably run best on a pentium 4 with a lot of RAM. Many
> come with application programs:
>
> http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
>
> Note: Nearly all live CDs come as ISO files, which you must turn into CDs
> using a program like Nero or Easy CD Creator, which support burn-from-image.
> A simple drag&drop to a CD will not result in a bootable CD.
>
> Note: To boot from a CD your BIOS must be set to boot from CD before hard
> drive. I usually set the boot order as floppy, then CD, then hard drive.
>
> "Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...
> > Hi guys
> >
> > Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
> > favourite n/g first
> >
> > Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
> > booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
> > wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
> > Ubuntu.
> >
> > Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
> > pointers to an apt website?
> >
> > My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
> > partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Tony
>
>
>

 

[... et al.]

Dan wrote:

> Which Unix/Linux flavor is best and why? My biggest interests are in terms
> of security first and compatibility with software second.

Check out the Canada-based OpenBSD project.
<http://www.openbsd.org/index.html>
<http://www.openbsd.org/security.html>


--
Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.

Please followup in the newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

 

[Dan]

Thank you for your input. Any other suggestions are welcome as well. Have a
nice day.

"... et al." wrote:

> Dan wrote:
>
> > Which Unix/Linux flavor is best and why? My biggest interests are in terms
> > of security first and compatibility with software second.
>
> Check out the Canada-based OpenBSD project.
> <http://www.openbsd.org/index.html>
> <http://www.openbsd.org/security.html>
>
>
> --
> Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.
>
> Please followup in the newsgroup.
> E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.
>

 

[leeds]

best linux distro when it comes to hardware-compatibility is knoppix

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1F4B04D3-1946-418C-A6D6-9B35D36A269E@microsoft.com...
> Which Unix/Linux flavor is best and why? My biggest interests are in
> terms
> of security first and compatibility with software second.
>
> "Bob Harris" wrote:
>
>> A few years ago I was having stability problems with 98 on a circa 1998
>> 450
>> MHz Pentium II with 128 Meg RAM, so I tried Red Hat LINUX, version 7.
>>
>> It automatically installed itself as a dual boot, with an easy-to-use
>> boot
>> manager.
>>
>> That version of Red Hat was better than 98 on my PC, both in terms of
>> speed
>> and stability. It also came with several application programs.
>>
>> I eventually gave up on Red Hat, because my ISP did not support LINUX.
>> At
>> the time my ISP was AOL. With hindsight, I now realize that I should
>> have
>> changed ISPs. Since then I has switched to high-speed internet via my
>> cable
>> company, and AOL is a fading memory.
>>
>> More recently I have been playing with KNOPPIX, which is a bootable CD
>> (or
>> DVD) on my current PC, which is a Pentium 4 2.5 GHz with 1Gig RAM (circa
>> 2003). The DVD version contains more applications programs than the CD
>> version. KNOPPIX loads into RAM, then loads applications form the CD (or
>> DVD). By default it does not install on the hard drive, so it is a safe
>> thing to test to get a feel for a modern LINUX. However, there is an
>> option
>> to install, if you wish. On my PC KNOPPIX is faster than XP, at least
>> once
>> it loads from the CD (or DVD). KNOPPIX automatically configured the
>> internet connection, and just about everything else. Note that KNOPPIX
>> is a
>> large download for the CD version and even larger for the DVD version.
>> Links to KNOPPIX and its documentation:
>>
>> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
>> http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Main_Page
>>
>> If you wish to experience LINUX, before commiting to it, try one of the
>> free "live CDs" found at the following website, or KNOPPIX listed above.
>> They come in many sizes and flavors. Some with run on pre-pentium CPUs
>> and
>> little RAM, others probably run best on a pentium 4 with a lot of RAM.
>> Many
>> come with application programs:
>>
>> http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
>>
>> Note: Nearly all live CDs come as ISO files, which you must turn into
>> CDs
>> using a program like Nero or Easy CD Creator, which support
>> burn-from-image.
>> A simple drag&drop to a CD will not result in a bootable CD.
>>
>> Note: To boot from a CD your BIOS must be set to boot from CD before
>> hard
>> drive. I usually set the boot order as floppy, then CD, then hard drive.
>>
>> "Tony Yarwood" <Tony.Yarwood@XXXclara.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:23gdd3lb76fmehfuuqes0matvr3lbs09vr@4ax.com...
>> > Hi guys
>> >
>> > Sorry to bother you all with this, but I thought I'd ask in my
>> > favourite n/g first
>> >
>> > Just about to buy a new box that's got enough oomph to do some dual
>> > booting. As I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with XP, I was
>> > wondering about 98SE and one of the Linux distributions probably
>> > Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > Has anybody experiences with dual booting 98 and Linux, or have any
>> > pointers to an apt website?
>> >
>> > My gut instinct tells me that 98 will probably have to go on the first
>> > partition followed by Linux, could be wrong tho.
>> >
>> > Many thanks in advance.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> >
>> > Tony
>>
>>
>>