Administrator

[Alan T]

I installed Ultimate version recently and my user name is say 'Alan'. Do I
have the administrator right or am I an administrator?

 

[Marcin Domaslawski]

Hi,

Check:
Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts

Marcin Domaslawski


"Alan T" <alanNOSPAMpltse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>I installed Ultimate version recently and my user name is say 'Alan'. Do I
> have the administrator right or am I an administrator?
>
>

 

[Steve]

"Marcin Domaslawski" <mila025@wp.pl> wrote:
>Check:
>Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts

I read somewhere that for security reasons you should not routinely
login as administrator. Is that true?


--

The most important tool of the scientist is the wastebasket.

....Albert Einstein

 

[Marcin Domaslawski]

Hi,

Actually ... yes. It's connected with privilege of user who works as a
administrator. For example if you open IE and are logged as a administrator,
IE will work with your privileges and all child processes too. If an malware
code will be launched, it will have full rights to system.
However Vista has new feature - UAC - which protects you against that cases.
Even if you are administrator you havent full rights to installation or
execution untrusted codes.

Marcin Domaslawski


"Steve" <dbn@whc.inv> wrote in message
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> "Marcin Domaslawski" <mila025@wp.pl> wrote:
>>Check:
>>Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts
>
> I read somewhere that for security reasons you should not routinely
> login as administrator. Is that true?
>
>
> --
>
> The most important tool of the scientist is the wastebasket.
>
> ...Albert Einstein

 

[Alan T]

Not quite understand.
I just installed Vista from scratch and was asked a username and password,
right.
The reboot Vista to logon using that account name and password.
Is that user account has admin rights? If yes, then I can run processes
which need admin rights, such that I can right click 'Run as administrator'
?

"Marcin Domaslawski" <mila025@wp.pl> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Actually ... yes. It's connected with privilege of user who works as a
> administrator. For example if you open IE and are logged as a
administrator,
> IE will work with your privileges and all child processes too. If an
malware
> code will be launched, it will have full rights to system.
> However Vista has new feature - UAC - which protects you against that
cases.
> Even if you are administrator you havent full rights to installation or
> execution untrusted codes.
>
> Marcin Domaslawski
>
>
> "Steve" <dbn@whc.inv> wrote in message
> news:vk869355hj8o0mls2fb65sfunju90cpo43@4ax.com...
> > "Marcin Domaslawski" <mila025@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>Check:
> >>Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts
> >
> > I read somewhere that for security reasons you should not routinely
> > login as administrator. Is that true?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > The most important tool of the scientist is the wastebasket.
> >
> > ...Albert Einstein
>

 

[Lang Murphy]

"Steve" <dbn@whc.inv> wrote in message
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> "Marcin Domaslawski" <mila025@wp.pl> wrote:
>>Check:
>>Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts
>
> I read somewhere that for security reasons you should not routinely
> login as administrator. Is that true?
>
>
> --
>
> The most important tool of the scientist is the wastebasket.
>
> ...Albert Einstein


Well... yes? No? I think that comes from the fact that when logged on as
administrator, one can really screw up a system if one doesn't know what one
is doing. And just about -everyone- thinks they know more than they really
do. That includes -some- MVP's and -most- of those who cast aspersions on
MVP's. (I belong to neither group, btw... and I'm not implying that I'm
incapable of screwing something up... oh, quite the contrary.)

Lang

 

[brink]

Alan T375933 Wrote:
> Not quite understand.
> I just installed Vista from scratch and was asked a username and
> password,
> right.
> The reboot Vista to logon using that account name and password.
> Is that user account has admin rights? If yes, then I can run processes
> which need admin rights, such that I can right click 'Run as
> administrator'
> ?
>
>

Hi Alan,

The account Vista gives you by default at setup is a Administrator
account. However, it is treated like a Standard account until a program
needs administrator rights to run. It (UAC) will then ask you to
confirm (Continue) the program to apply your administrator rights. You
have them, but need to approve everytime you use them.

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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brink

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[Marcin Domaslawski]

Hi,

That's right it depends on user. If on machne works only one user under
Vista, it doesnt matter if he will work on account with administrator
privilages or not. If he want install an "evil" then he will install it,
even if he will have to switch on proper account.
If you have few users, some of them will be trusted and some not, some
accounts for sure will be limited.

Marcin Domaslawski


"Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve" <dbn@whc.inv> wrote in message
> news:vk869355hj8o0mls2fb65sfunju90cpo43@4ax.com...
>> "Marcin Domaslawski" <mila025@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>Check:
>>>Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts
>>
>> I read somewhere that for security reasons you should not routinely
>> login as administrator. Is that true?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> The most important tool of the scientist is the wastebasket.
>>
>> ...Albert Einstein
>
>
> Well... yes? No? I think that comes from the fact that when logged on as
> administrator, one can really screw up a system if one doesn't know what
> one is doing. And just about -everyone- thinks they know more than they
> really do. That includes -some- MVP's and -most- of those who cast
> aspersions on MVP's. (I belong to neither group, btw... and I'm not
> implying that I'm incapable of screwing something up... oh, quite the
> contrary.)
>
> Lang

 

[John Fyfe]

Hi, I was wondering about this "run as administrator" thing. I recently had a
problem with downloading music from hmv using their download manager, which I
believe is an activeX program. The only solution (so far) to get the download
manager working (from another user on the discussion group) was to right
click the explorer icon and "run as admin..." Given that I'm the sole user
and logged in as administrator, what exactly does "run as admin" mean? Is it
anything to do with Defender, as well as user accounts? And, given that I'm
confident about the security of sites I visit (well-known companies and all
that), and have firewall/av/antispyware running, is "run as administrator" a
dangerous way to use explorer?
Thanks,
John.

"Marcin Domaslawski" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> That's right it depends on user. If on machne works only one user under
> Vista, it doesnt matter if he will work on account with administrator
> privilages or not. If he want install an "evil" then he will install it,
> even if he will have to switch on proper account.
> If you have few users, some of them will be trusted and some not, some
> accounts for sure will be limited.
>
> Marcin Domaslawski
>
>

 

[Lang Murphy]

"John Fyfe" <JohnFyfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi, I was wondering about this "run as administrator" thing. I recently
> had a
> problem with downloading music from hmv using their download manager,
> which I
> believe is an activeX program. The only solution (so far) to get the
> download
> manager working (from another user on the discussion group) was to right
> click the explorer icon and "run as admin..." Given that I'm the sole user
> and logged in as administrator, what exactly does "run as admin" mean? Is
> it
> anything to do with Defender, as well as user accounts? And, given that
> I'm
> confident about the security of sites I visit (well-known companies and
> all
> that), and have firewall/av/antispyware running, is "run as administrator"
> a
> dangerous way to use explorer?
> Thanks,
> John.
>

<snip>

Are you talking about Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer? If the latter,
which I suspect, well... I've never run IE as admistrator and am not aware
of a need to run IE as administrator. That said, I am not claiming to be an
IE SME. Obviously, if you had a problem that was addressed by running IE as
administrator, then there must be something to it.

And... all -that- said... is the download manager to which you refer hmv's
download manager? Or MS's IE download manager?

Lang

 

[John Fyfe]

Hi Lang, Internet Explorer. The download manager is hmv's. I'm sure there's a
different way around the problem than "run as admin", but I haven't tackled
it yet and am not much experienced with configuring security settings,
especially in Vista. Cheers, John.

> Are you talking about Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer? If the latter,
> which I suspect, well... I've never run IE as admistrator and am not aware
> of a need to run IE as administrator. That said, I am not claiming to be an
> IE SME. Obviously, if you had a problem that was addressed by running IE as
> administrator, then there must be something to it.
>
> And... all -that- said... is the download manager to which you refer hmv's
> download manager? Or MS's IE download manager?
>
> Lang
>
>

 

[Lang Murphy]

"John Fyfe" <JohnFyfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Lang, Internet Explorer. The download manager is hmv's. I'm sure
> there's a
> different way around the problem than "run as admin", but I haven't
> tackled
> it yet and am not much experienced with configuring security settings,
> especially in Vista. Cheers, John.
>
>> Are you talking about Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer? If the
>> latter,
>> which I suspect, well... I've never run IE as admistrator and am not
>> aware
>> of a need to run IE as administrator. That said, I am not claiming to be
>> an
>> IE SME. Obviously, if you had a problem that was addressed by running IE
>> as
>> administrator, then there must be something to it.
>>
>> And... all -that- said... is the download manager to which you refer
>> hmv's
>> download manager? Or MS's IE download manager?
>>
>> Lang
>>
>>


OK... well then the issue -may- be with hmv's d/l manager. Sorry, can't go
any further, right now, with that assessment. Not sure if one can assign
permissions to an activex control.

Good luck!

Lang