RE: suggestion to the idiots at microsoft

C

Chris

You may have to. In true traditional form my laptop packed up just after the
warranty expired, great engineering by Toshiba. Anyway, I just bought a new
one, can't get XP so stuck with Vista. So here's my suggestion to Microsoft.
Give people the option of loading their already owned version of XP instead
of muscling the PC manufacturers to force your unfinished bug infested
experimental O/S's on us.

"firstmilkman" wrote:

> how about in the real release we not base the trial time on the system clock
> hmm. I recently set my clock to the correct date on the beta 2 trial and i
> cannot register because I get errors. My first error was that my date and
> time were wrong so i set my clock and got screwed over. now i cannot do
> anything, I am talking to u now because I clicked the buy new product key
> online button and it opened firefox. Now when I click any button on the
> screen I get when I sign in it hangs for 5 mins then gives me an error.
> ANYTHING I do does that with the exception of purchase another product key
> (what a coincidence). What idiot bases how long you can use the trial upon
> the clock so if you change the date you either make your trial short or
> longer. what happens when the final release comes out, and people just borrow
> the disc form a friend and use this to use it as long as they want? seriously
> i am unbelieveably ticked off. I had the trial for 2 days, and this whole
> time I have been trying to register it and now I am screwed over and I dont
> know what to do since ctrl+alt+del doesnt work and the only thing that loads
> is the register product thing and nothing works on that. I am limited to
> useing firefox. thanks for nothin microsoft, I will not be buying vista when
> it comes out.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...0f8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
 
R

Richard Urban

It is the manufacturer who makes the decision as to what operating system to
supply - if they supply any at all. Microsoft long ago lost the muscle to
"demand" that a certain version of one of their operating systems be
installed on a computer. Take it up with the manufacturer.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:63B68061-21D7-4662-9498-D7C25361615B@microsoft.com...
> You may have to. In true traditional form my laptop packed up just after
> the
> warranty expired, great engineering by Toshiba. Anyway, I just bought a
> new
> one, can't get XP so stuck with Vista. So here's my suggestion to
> Microsoft.
> Give people the option of loading their already owned version of XP
> instead
> of muscling the PC manufacturers to force your unfinished bug infested
> experimental O/S's on us.
>
> "firstmilkman" wrote:
>
>> how about in the real release we not base the trial time on the system
>> clock
>> hmm. I recently set my clock to the correct date on the beta 2 trial and
>> i
>> cannot register because I get errors. My first error was that my date and
>> time were wrong so i set my clock and got screwed over. now i cannot do
>> anything, I am talking to u now because I clicked the buy new product key
>> online button and it opened firefox. Now when I click any button on the
>> screen I get when I sign in it hangs for 5 mins then gives me an error.
>> ANYTHING I do does that with the exception of purchase another product
>> key
>> (what a coincidence). What idiot bases how long you can use the trial
>> upon
>> the clock so if you change the date you either make your trial short or
>> longer. what happens when the final release comes out, and people just
>> borrow
>> the disc form a friend and use this to use it as long as they want?
>> seriously
>> i am unbelieveably ticked off. I had the trial for 2 days, and this whole
>> time I have been trying to register it and now I am screwed over and I
>> dont
>> know what to do since ctrl+alt+del doesnt work and the only thing that
>> loads
>> is the register product thing and nothing works on that. I am limited to
>> useing firefox. thanks for nothin microsoft, I will not be buying vista
>> when
>> it comes out.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...0f8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
 
X

xfile

> Microsoft long ago lost the muscle to "demand" that a certain version of
> one of their operating systems be installed on a computer.


I'd think differently. All they have to say is - previous version(s) is
discontinued. After all, it's their products and they can determine when
and for how long to supply it.

Obviously, it will include more considerations into when to discontinue a
product, but to say it has no "influence" on how OEMs to carry which OS, it
is not likely the case.

Of course, one can also say that OEMs have a choice for not carrying Windows
at all, but we all know that it's impossible under the current market
condition.

They are more cautiously using their muscle now but it is there and will be
there for many years.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eq4celrwHHA.4640@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> It is the manufacturer who makes the decision as to what operating system
> to supply - if they supply any at all. Microsoft long ago lost the muscle
> to "demand" that a certain version of one of their operating systems be
> installed on a computer. Take it up with the manufacturer.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:63B68061-21D7-4662-9498-D7C25361615B@microsoft.com...
>> You may have to. In true traditional form my laptop packed up just after
>> the
>> warranty expired, great engineering by Toshiba. Anyway, I just bought a
>> new
>> one, can't get XP so stuck with Vista. So here's my suggestion to
>> Microsoft.
>> Give people the option of loading their already owned version of XP
>> instead
>> of muscling the PC manufacturers to force your unfinished bug infested
>> experimental O/S's on us.
>>
>> "firstmilkman" wrote:
>>
>>> how about in the real release we not base the trial time on the system
>>> clock
>>> hmm. I recently set my clock to the correct date on the beta 2 trial and
>>> i
>>> cannot register because I get errors. My first error was that my date
>>> and
>>> time were wrong so i set my clock and got screwed over. now i cannot do
>>> anything, I am talking to u now because I clicked the buy new product
>>> key
>>> online button and it opened firefox. Now when I click any button on the
>>> screen I get when I sign in it hangs for 5 mins then gives me an error.
>>> ANYTHING I do does that with the exception of purchase another product
>>> key
>>> (what a coincidence). What idiot bases how long you can use the trial
>>> upon
>>> the clock so if you change the date you either make your trial short or
>>> longer. what happens when the final release comes out, and people just
>>> borrow
>>> the disc form a friend and use this to use it as long as they want?
>>> seriously
>>> i am unbelieveably ticked off. I had the trial for 2 days, and this
>>> whole
>>> time I have been trying to register it and now I am screwed over and I
>>> dont
>>> know what to do since ctrl+alt+del doesnt work and the only thing that
>>> loads
>>> is the register product thing and nothing works on that. I am limited to
>>> useing firefox. thanks for nothin microsoft, I will not be buying vista
>>> when
>>> it comes out.
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>>> "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>> this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...0f8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

>
 
I

Ian

Simple question Chris. Have you given vista a personal go or just following
the trend to knock a new system. Can you not format and load XP. Microsoft
will allow it if you register it by phone.



"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:63B68061-21D7-4662-9498-D7C25361615B@microsoft.com...
> You may have to. In true traditional form my laptop packed up just after
> the
> warranty expired, great engineering by Toshiba. Anyway, I just bought a
> new
> one, can't get XP so stuck with Vista. So here's my suggestion to
> Microsoft.
> Give people the option of loading their already owned version of XP
> instead
> of muscling the PC manufacturers to force your unfinished bug infested
> experimental O/S's on us.
>
> "firstmilkman" wrote:
>
>> how about in the real release we not base the trial time on the system
>> clock
>> hmm. I recently set my clock to the correct date on the beta 2 trial and
>> i
>> cannot register because I get errors. My first error was that my date and
>> time were wrong so i set my clock and got screwed over. now i cannot do
>> anything, I am talking to u now because I clicked the buy new product key
>> online button and it opened firefox. Now when I click any button on the
>> screen I get when I sign in it hangs for 5 mins then gives me an error.
>> ANYTHING I do does that with the exception of purchase another product
>> key
>> (what a coincidence). What idiot bases how long you can use the trial
>> upon
>> the clock so if you change the date you either make your trial short or
>> longer. what happens when the final release comes out, and people just
>> borrow
>> the disc form a friend and use this to use it as long as they want?
>> seriously
>> i am unbelieveably ticked off. I had the trial for 2 days, and this whole
>> time I have been trying to register it and now I am screwed over and I
>> dont
>> know what to do since ctrl+alt+del doesnt work and the only thing that
>> loads
>> is the register product thing and nothing works on that. I am limited to
>> useing firefox. thanks for nothin microsoft, I will not be buying vista
>> when
>> it comes out.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...0f8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

>
 
I

Ian

Simple question Chris. Have you given vista a personal go or just following
the trend to knock a new system. Can you not format and load XP. Microsoft
will allow it if you register it by phone.



"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:63B68061-21D7-4662-9498-D7C25361615B@microsoft.com...
> You may have to. In true traditional form my laptop packed up just after
> the
> warranty expired, great engineering by Toshiba. Anyway, I just bought a
> new
> one, can't get XP so stuck with Vista. So here's my suggestion to
> Microsoft.
> Give people the option of loading their already owned version of XP
> instead
> of muscling the PC manufacturers to force your unfinished bug infested
> experimental O/S's on us.
>
> "firstmilkman" wrote:
>
>> how about in the real release we not base the trial time on the system
>> clock
>> hmm. I recently set my clock to the correct date on the beta 2 trial and
>> i
>> cannot register because I get errors. My first error was that my date and
>> time were wrong so i set my clock and got screwed over. now i cannot do
>> anything, I am talking to u now because I clicked the buy new product key
>> online button and it opened firefox. Now when I click any button on the
>> screen I get when I sign in it hangs for 5 mins then gives me an error.
>> ANYTHING I do does that with the exception of purchase another product
>> key
>> (what a coincidence). What idiot bases how long you can use the trial
>> upon
>> the clock so if you change the date you either make your trial short or
>> longer. what happens when the final release comes out, and people just
>> borrow
>> the disc form a friend and use this to use it as long as they want?
>> seriously
>> i am unbelieveably ticked off. I had the trial for 2 days, and this whole
>> time I have been trying to register it and now I am screwed over and I
>> dont
>> know what to do since ctrl+alt+del doesnt work and the only thing that
>> loads
>> is the register product thing and nothing works on that. I am limited to
>> useing firefox. thanks for nothin microsoft, I will not be buying vista
>> when
>> it comes out.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...0f8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general

>
 
J

John Barnes

The manufacturer decides what OS to include, and are unlikely to produce
drivers for previous OS's if they have decided to provide the most current.
If you already own a retail version of XP, if you uninstall it from the
previous installation, nothing from Microsoft prevents you from installing
it on one machine. Just make sure your warranty isn't violated and the
drivers are available from the manufacturer.

"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:63B68061-21D7-4662-9498-D7C25361615B@microsoft.com...
> You may have to. In true traditional form my laptop packed up just after
> the
> warranty expired, great engineering by Toshiba. Anyway, I just bought a
> new
> one, can't get XP so stuck with Vista. So here's my suggestion to
> Microsoft.
> Give people the option of loading their already owned version of XP
> instead
> of muscling the PC manufacturers to force your unfinished bug infested
> experimental O/S's on us.
>
> "firstmilkman" wrote:
>
>> how about in the real release we not base the trial time on the system
>> clock
>> hmm. I recently set my clock to the correct date on the beta 2 trial and
>> i
>> cannot register because I get errors. My first error was that my date and
>> time were wrong so i set my clock and got screwed over. now i cannot do
>> anything, I am talking to u now because I clicked the buy new product key
>> online button and it opened firefox. Now when I click any button on the
>> screen I get when I sign in it hangs for 5 mins then gives me an error.
>> ANYTHING I do does that with the exception of purchase another product
>> key
>> (what a coincidence). What idiot bases how long you can use the trial
>> upon
>> the clock so if you change the date you either make your trial short or
>> longer. what happens when the final release comes out, and people just
>> borrow
>> the disc form a friend and use this to use it as long as they want?
>> seriously
>> i am unbelieveably ticked off. I had the trial for 2 days, and this whole
>> time I have been trying to register it and now I am screwed over and I
>> dont
>> know what to do since ctrl+alt+del doesnt work and the only thing that
>> loads
>> is the register product thing and nothing works on that. I am limited to
>> useing firefox. thanks for nothin microsoft, I will not be buying vista
>> when
>> it comes out.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/co...0f8&dg=microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
 
X

XS11E

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It is the manufacturer who makes the decision as to what operating
> system to supply - if they supply any at all. Microsoft long ago
> lost the muscle to "demand" that a certain version of one of their
> operating systems be installed on a computer. Take it up with the
> manufacturer.


Be serious, Richard, you don't think someone is going to contact the
manufacturer when it so much easier to come here and whine, do you?
<sigh>

If the OP was other than a drive-by troll he would have already
contacted the manufacturer.






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