error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer version of windows

[Sean Youngblood]

I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win 98 - I did so
because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI adapter and when i attempted to
install I received a message that I needed Windows 98 SE - when I installed
98 SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter and again
received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer version of windows
installed on the computer - I checked the system properties and they list the
operating system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is a system
registry file that did not update and therefore that is likely preventing me
from installing the Wireless Lan PCI adapter - does anybody know what I need
to do in order to change all files to reflect the correct version of
windows??

 

[thanatoid]

=?Utf-8?B?U2VhbiBZb3VuZ2Jsb29k?=
<SeanYoungblood@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:C817C9BC-5131-4B89-88D5-50C33ABEFC2C@microsoft.com:

> I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win
> 98 - I did so because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI
> adapter and when i attempted to install I received a
> message that I needed Windows 98 SE - when I installed 98
> SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter
> and again received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or
> newer version of windows installed on the computer - I
> checked the system properties and they list the operating
> system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is a
> system registry file that did not update and therefore that
> is likely preventing me from installing the Wireless Lan
> PCI adapter - does anybody know what I need to do in order
> to change all files to reflect the correct version of
> windows??
>

You could either just wipe the c drive of all traces of windows
that are on it now (maybe format it to be sure, it is possible
some registry entries were not properly updated or some driver
is an old version and did not update - you know, Windows...),
and install 98SE from scratch, or search for an update which you
may need to get your adapter to work. You could Google, there
are many sites that offer all the win updates besides MS, and
they are usually much easier to navigate.

You MAY find out you need to do both. But others will know more
I am sure. It's late and I haven't replied to anything here in a
while. Don't want anyone to forget about me. So I apologize if
you consider reading this a waste of time which it kind of maybe
perhaps is.

(I am actually surprised you can get wireless to work with 98SE
at all.)

--
"This is not nuclear. This is just a test."
- illyria

 

[Jeff Richards]

That's the sort of question you would have to ask the manufacturer. If your
system properties say that you are using W98SE then it seems that the
installer is using something else to identify the OS, and it's anyone's
guess as to what that might be. Or, the message might actually mean that
some other necessary component (something to do with the network, perhaps)
is missing. Again, only the manufacturer would know.

An upgraded system is just as genuine as a fresh install, unless the
software is using some non-standard testing.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Sean Youngblood" <SeanYoungblood@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C817C9BC-5131-4B89-88D5-50C33ABEFC2C@microsoft.com...
>I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win 98 - I did so
> because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI adapter and when i attempted to
> install I received a message that I needed Windows 98 SE - when I
> installed
> 98 SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter and again
> received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer version of windows
> installed on the computer - I checked the system properties and they list
> the
> operating system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is a system
> registry file that did not update and therefore that is likely preventing
> me
> from installing the Wireless Lan PCI adapter - does anybody know what I
> need
> to do in order to change all files to reflect the correct version of
> windows??

 

[Jeff Richards]

"thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns99A0122A9E234thanexit@66.250.146.158...
> =?Utf-8?B?U2VhbiBZb3VuZ2Jsb29k?=
>
> snip <
>
> (I am actually surprised you can get wireless to work with 98SE at all.)
>
Hmmmmm. Then I guess that the ancient Compaq portable that I'm currently
using while sitting in front of the TV must be communicating by magic!

 

[Don Phillipson]

"thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns99A0122A9E234thanexit@66.250.146.158...

> (I am actually surprised you can get wireless to work with 98SE
> at all.)

This appears to depend on the wireless ISP -- not on the
Operating System. Rogers Cable (big Canadian CATV
and ISP utility) has a fully automatic system that works
well with Win98SE. You just
1. Power up the antenna module and orient it for
maximum signal strength (shown by indicator LEDs).
2. Make the other connections.
3. Connection with the ISP via wireless is then
automatic and the user need input only the startup
password (provided by the ISP).

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 

[Vic]

Ran into a similar problem trying to install an MS Viewer (either
PowerPoint or Excel) and the software installation routine said I did
NOT have SE, but I did!

Found some software looks at this registry key to determine what version
is installed:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
"SubVersionNumber"=" A "

If you are familiar with using the registry editor, check to see if this
key looks exactly as mine about, that is " SPACE A SPACE "

If that doesn't work try "A" (no spaces)
If that doesn't work try " A" (one space to left)
If that doesn't work try "A " (one space to right)

Forgot which 'magic' combination made it work but one of them did.
BTW, may have to reboot after each registry change ... don't remember.

Worked for me, hope it works for you.
___
"Sean Youngblood" <SeanYoungblood@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C817C9BC-5131-4B89-88D5-50C33ABEFC2C@microsoft.com...
>I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win 98 - I did
>so
> because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI adapter and when i attempted to
> install I received a message that I needed Windows 98 SE - when I
> installed
> 98 SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter and again
> received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer version of
> windows
> installed on the computer - I checked the system properties and they
> list the
> operating system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is a
> system
> registry file that did not update and therefore that is likely
> preventing me
> from installing the Wireless Lan PCI adapter - does anybody know what
> I need
> to do in order to change all files to reflect the correct version of
> windows??

 

[Bob Harris]

I read once that Microsoft's Windows Update used the version of Internet
Explorer to determine whether the machine was a PC or an Apple. IE 5.5 or
less was interpreted as being an Apple. Wireless adapters often use IE to
change their settings, so possibly the message is really about the version
of IE, not about the operating system itself. If you are not already using
it, try updating to IE6:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/default.mspx

Note: Do not attempt to install version 7 on an machine running less than
XP !

As an aside, remember to run Windows Update, since there may be additional
patches available for 98SE, which were not offered when you had plain 98.

Otherwise, go to the adapter's support site and check FAQs, tips&tricks, or
search on "problems", or search on some of the exact text of the error
message.

By the way, do you have the latest installer for the adapter? The one on
the CD that probably came with the card might be out of date. Check for the
possibility of a newer version at the adapter's support site.

If none of that helps, try sending an email to the adapter customer support,
being as specific as possible about the PC, its recent history, the adapter,
and the exact error message.


"Sean Youngblood" <SeanYoungblood@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:C817C9BC-5131-4B89-88D5-50C33ABEFC2C@microsoft.com...
>I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win 98 - I did so
> because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI adapter and when i attempted to
> install I received a message that I needed Windows 98 SE - when I
> installed
> 98 SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter and again
> received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer version of windows
> installed on the computer - I checked the system properties and they list
> the
> operating system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is a system
> registry file that did not update and therefore that is likely preventing
> me
> from installing the Wireless Lan PCI adapter - does anybody know what I
> need
> to do in order to change all files to reflect the correct version of
> windows??

 

[Don Phillipson]

"Vic" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:%232pxtqj7HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Ran into a similar problem trying to install an MS Viewer (either
> PowerPoint or Excel) and the software installation routine said I did
> NOT have SE, but I did!

This suggests Vic did not get the new version MS installer for Win98
made available on line about 2001, possibly still available

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 

[PCR]

"Vic" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
news:%232pxtqj7HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| Ran into a similar problem trying to install an MS Viewer (either
| PowerPoint or Excel) and the software installation routine said I did
| NOT have SE, but I did!
|
| Found some software looks at this registry key to determine what
| version is installed:
|
| [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
| "SubVersionNumber"=" A "

Yea-- THAT'S the one, with a blank on each side. After running the MS
Security Update CD, it becomes a "B", with no blanks...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
SubVersionNumber "B"

There have been a few software reported at this NG that would not
install-- unless it is changed back! I don't know whether keeping the
"B" & inserting two blanks also would work. However, I think... if "B"
is needed for anything, it would be for proper detection at Windows
Update only.

| If you are familiar with using the registry editor, check to see if
| this key looks exactly as mine about, that is " SPACE A SPACE "
|
| If that doesn't work try "A" (no spaces)
| If that doesn't work try " A" (one space to left)
| If that doesn't work try "A " (one space to right)
|
| Forgot which 'magic' combination made it work but one of them did.
| BTW, may have to reboot after each registry change ... don't remember.
|
| Worked for me, hope it works for you.
| ___
| "Sean Youngblood" <SeanYoungblood@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| message news:C817C9BC-5131-4B89-88D5-50C33ABEFC2C@microsoft.com...
|>I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win 98 - I did
|>so
|> because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI adapter and when i attempted
|> to install I received a message that I needed Windows 98 SE - when I
|> installed
|> 98 SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter and again
|> received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer version of
|> windows
|> installed on the computer - I checked the system properties and they
|> list the
|> operating system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is a
|> system
|> registry file that did not update and therefore that is likely
|> preventing me
|> from installing the Wireless Lan PCI adapter - does anybody know what
|> I need
|> to do in order to change all files to reflect the correct version of
|> windows??

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

PCR, please clarify for me what users have claimed was broken by the security
update cd from Microsoft. <version A to B --- :-o>


"PCR" wrote:

> "Vic" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
> news:%232pxtqj7HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> | Ran into a similar problem trying to install an MS Viewer (either
> | PowerPoint or Excel) and the software installation routine said I did
> | NOT have SE, but I did!
> |
> | Found some software looks at this registry key to determine what
> | version is installed:
> |
> | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
> | "SubVersionNumber"=" A "
>
> Yea-- THAT'S the one, with a blank on each side. After running the MS
> Security Update CD, it becomes a "B", with no blanks...
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
> SubVersionNumber "B"
>
> There have been a few software reported at this NG that would not
> install-- unless it is changed back! I don't know whether keeping the
> "B" & inserting two blanks also would work. However, I think... if "B"
> is needed for anything, it would be for proper detection at Windows
> Update only.
>
> | If you are familiar with using the registry editor, check to see if
> | this key looks exactly as mine about, that is " SPACE A SPACE "
> |
> | If that doesn't work try "A" (no spaces)
> | If that doesn't work try " A" (one space to left)
> | If that doesn't work try "A " (one space to right)
> |
> | Forgot which 'magic' combination made it work but one of them did.
> | BTW, may have to reboot after each registry change ... don't remember.
> |
> | Worked for me, hope it works for you.
> | ___
> | "Sean Youngblood" <SeanYoungblood@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> | message news:C817C9BC-5131-4B89-88D5-50C33ABEFC2C@microsoft.com...
> |>I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win 98 - I did
> |>so
> |> because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI adapter and when i attempted
> |> to install I received a message that I needed Windows 98 SE - when I
> |> installed
> |> 98 SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter and again
> |> received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer version of
> |> windows
> |> installed on the computer - I checked the system properties and they
> |> list the
> |> operating system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is a
> |> system
> |> registry file that did not update and therefore that is likely
> |> preventing me
> |> from installing the Wireless Lan PCI adapter - does anybody know what
> |> I need
> |> to do in order to change all files to reflect the correct version of
> |> windows??
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

 

[PCR]

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:25B2B157-7F69-4D36-96CB-214ED592C9F1@microsoft.com
| PCR, please clarify for me what users have claimed was broken by the
| security update cd from Microsoft. <version A to B --- :-o>

I haven't seen a report that anything already installed became broken.
It's only a matter of various newly attempted installs claiming they do
not recognize the machine to be Win98SE or a suitable OS. Macromedia's
Fireworks is one, & MS Works v.8 may be another. Here is the .inf on the
Security Update CD that does the nasty deed...!...

......Start.............
Copyright (c) 2003 Microsoft Corporation, All Rights Reserved.
WSEfinish.INF
This displays completion information for the install process
for the Windows 98 SE Security Update CD

[VERSION]
AdvancedINF=2.5, %AdvPackWarn%
signature=$CHICAGO$

[DefaultInstall]
CustomDestination = CustomSourceLoc
DelReg = Upd_Del_Reg
AddReg = Upd_Add_Reg
RunPostSetupCommands = UPD_INST_Post

[CustomSourceLoc]
49700 = SrcDrv,17

[SrcDrv]
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup","QSSourcePath",,

[UPD_INST_Post]
RUNDLL32 URL.DLL,FileProtocolHandler %49700%%98Path%\docs\finish.hta
"%49700%Content\Win9x\W9XSetup.exe /rp"

[Upd_Add_Reg]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion","SubVersionNumber",,"B"

[Upd_Del_Reg]
HKLM,Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run,"Finishing Windows 98
SE Update.."
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup","QSSourcePath"

[Strings]
Non-localizable
98Path = "content\win9x\win98"
SEPath = "content\win9x\win98SE"
ContentPath = "content"

Localizable strings
AdvPackWarn="You need a newer version of advpack.dll."
......End..............

After that CD is run, you are a "B"-- & not an " A " anymore!

| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> "Vic" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
|> news:%232pxtqj7HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> | Ran into a similar problem trying to install an MS Viewer (either
|> | PowerPoint or Excel) and the software installation routine said I
|> | did NOT have SE, but I did!
|> |
|> | Found some software looks at this registry key to determine what
|> | version is installed:
|> |
|> | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
|> | "SubVersionNumber"=" A "
|>
|> Yea-- THAT'S the one, with a blank on each side. After running the MS
|> Security Update CD, it becomes a "B", with no blanks...
|>
|> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
|> SubVersionNumber "B"
|>
|> There have been a few software reported at this NG that would not
|> install-- unless it is changed back! I don't know whether keeping the
|> "B" & inserting two blanks also would work. However, I think... if
|> "B" is needed for anything, it would be for proper detection at
|> Windows Update only.
|>
|> | If you are familiar with using the registry editor, check to see if
|> | this key looks exactly as mine about, that is " SPACE A SPACE "
|> |
|> | If that doesn't work try "A" (no spaces)
|> | If that doesn't work try " A" (one space to left)
|> | If that doesn't work try "A " (one space to right)
|> |
|> | Forgot which 'magic' combination made it work but one of them did.
|> | BTW, may have to reboot after each registry change ... don't
|> | remember.
|> |
|> | Worked for me, hope it works for you.
|> | ___
|> | "Sean Youngblood" <SeanYoungblood@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
|> | in message
|> | news:C817C9BC-5131-4B89-88D5-50C33ABEFC2C@microsoft.com...
|> |>I just recently installed Win 98 SE - I previously had win 98 - I
|> |>did so
|> |> because I purchased a Wireless Lan PCI adapter and when i
|> |> attempted to install I received a message that I needed Windows
|> |> 98 SE - when I installed
|> |> 98 SE - I attempted to install the Wireless Lan PCI adapter and
|> |> again received the error that I needed to have 98 SE or newer
|> |> version of windows
|> |> installed on the computer - I checked the system properties and
|> |> they list the
|> |> operating system as Windows 98 Second Edition - I assume there is
|> |> a system
|> |> registry file that did not update and therefore that is likely
|> |> preventing me
|> |> from installing the Wireless Lan PCI adapter - does anybody know
|> |> what I need
|> |> to do in order to change all files to reflect the correct version
|> |> of windows??
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

<snip>

Thanks PCR.

 

[PCR]

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5C64DC6B-1524-44EB-B2B6-C1F1C08292A9@microsoft.com
| <snip>
|
| Thanks PCR.

You are welcome.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net