Vista Ultimate Extras - Where are they.

[David Edward Ford]

Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
hype.

Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras - downloadable
software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The add-ons were to
be one of a handful of features that separated the $399 Ultimate from the
$239 Home Premium.

But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
forgotten or so it seems.

When will I ever learn????

Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's theft.
But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be delivered)
may be breaking a few laws as well.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

David

You were not fooled at all.. you decided to buy the version that contained
all features.. not only can you get the benefit of media center, but you can
also fax and scan, and make your system safe with BitLocker encryption..


"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
> hype.
>
> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>
> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
> forgotten or so it seems.
>
> When will I ever learn????
>
> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
> theft.
> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be delivered)
> may be breaking a few laws as well.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Dave]

and Remote Desktop server..


"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u0SwhRvwHHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> David
>
> You were not fooled at all.. you decided to buy the version that contained
> all features.. not only can you get the benefit of media center, but you
> can also fax and scan, and make your system safe with BitLocker
> encryption..
>
>
> "David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
>> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
>> hype.
>>
>> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
>> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
>> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
>> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>>
>> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
>> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
>> forgotten or so it seems.
>>
>> When will I ever learn????
>>
>> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
>> theft.
>> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be
>> delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>
>
>

 

[Paul Smith]

"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
> hype.
>
> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>
> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
> forgotten or so it seems.

http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2007/07/02/ultimate_extras_team_update

DreamScene final coming in a few months, as is 20 more language packs, more
announcements later.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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[Jamie_W]

> DreamScene final coming in a few months, as is 20 more language packs, more
> announcements later.

LANGUAGE PACKS???

HAHAHA!

Jesus, I know those extra £'s I spent were worth it when I have the option
to install 20 more languages that I'll never download.

I mean, my god, do you realise how funny it is that you used that as an
example?

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:15:21 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"

>...and make your system safe with BitLocker encryption..

Be VERY careful with that axe, Eugene.

I call it "botlocker", because once malware infects that system (and
Bitlocker does nothing to help prevent this), you'll have far more
difficulty, bordering on impossibility, on cleaning it up.

Run the infected OS, the malware's "live" before you start.

Run some other off-HD OS, and Botlocker locks the bots in.



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On the 'net, *everyone* can hear you scream
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[Mike Hall - MVP]

System restore has been a source of malware regeneration for the longest
time.. quite the team, eh..


"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in
message news:adg793lm37i5rnsip4fhohncj28ksmiqvl@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:15:21 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
>
>>...and make your system safe with BitLocker encryption..
>
> Be VERY careful with that axe, Eugene.
>
> I call it "botlocker", because once malware infects that system (and
> Bitlocker does nothing to help prevent this), you'll have far more
> difficulty, bordering on impossibility, on cleaning it up.
>
> Run the infected OS, the malware's "live" before you start.
>
> Run some other off-HD OS, and Botlocker locks the bots in.
>
>
>
>>---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
> On the 'net, *everyone* can hear you scream
>>---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[David Edward Ford]

Just as I suspected. I have been taken for a fool judging by the
microsoft reply. Ultimate extras were a major hype in advertising this
particular edition of Vista. I need not quote the official ms advert,
suffice to say I have been "had".

And to those that replied with "bitlocker encryption" and and "media centre"
these can been found in other versions of vista. When I buy a car, I want
the wheels included.


"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
> hype.
>
> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>
> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
> forgotten or so it seems.
>
> When will I ever learn????
>
> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
> theft.
> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be delivered)
> may be breaking a few laws as well.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

David
While I am disappointed there are not more frequent extras, I know of
nothing that Microsoft said that promised them more frequently.

Hopefully Ultimate Extras is not the only feature someone uses to
justify spending more for Windows Vista Ultimate.
If that is the case, there are probably better options especially
since details of exactly what the extras will be remains unknown.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the
> marketing hype.
>
> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users.
> The add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated
> the $399 Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>
> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth
> the next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it
> remains forgotten or so it seems.
>
> When will I ever learn????
>
> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
> theft.
> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be
> delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.

 

[David Edward Ford]

Go and have a look at the official advertising for vista ultimate and the
many words used to describe "ultimate extras". i strongly suspect that it
induced many to buy this version of vista.

Or am I alone in being felt let down ???

If I am i will shut up and keep quiet.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:uV%238f9ywHHA.736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> David
> While I am disappointed there are not more frequent extras, I know of
> nothing that Microsoft said that promised them more frequently.
>
> Hopefully Ultimate Extras is not the only feature someone uses to justify
> spending more for Windows Vista Ultimate.
> If that is the case, there are probably better options especially since
> details of exactly what the extras will be remains unknown.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
>> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
>> hype.
>>
>> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
>> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
>> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
>> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>>
>> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
>> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
>> forgotten or so it seems.
>>
>> When will I ever learn????
>>
>> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
>> theft.
>> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be
>> delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.
>

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

David
Perhaps I missed it but I do not see a reply from Microsoft in this
thread.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
news:0593CC8E-06C7-4363-A08E-25FD4D054517@microsoft.com...
> Just as I suspected. I have been taken for a fool judging by the
> microsoft reply. Ultimate extras were a major hype in advertising
> this particular edition of Vista. I need not quote the official ms
> advert, suffice to say I have been "had".
>
> And to those that replied with "bitlocker encryption" and and "media
> centre" these can been found in other versions of vista. When I
> buy a car, I want the wheels included.

 

[Meebers]

I just downloaded "hold em poker" from the extras.....where is it supposed
to be, cannot find it in games..

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:uV%238f9ywHHA.736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> David
> While I am disappointed there are not more frequent extras, I know of
> nothing that Microsoft said that promised them more frequently.
>
> Hopefully Ultimate Extras is not the only feature someone uses to justify
> spending more for Windows Vista Ultimate.
> If that is the case, there are probably better options especially since
> details of exactly what the extras will be remains unknown.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
>> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
>> hype.
>>
>> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
>> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
>> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
>> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>>
>> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
>> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
>> forgotten or so it seems.
>>
>> When will I ever learn????
>>
>> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
>> theft.
>> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be
>> delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.
>

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

It is in Start/Games for me.
Did you also install or just download?
Also look in:
C/Program Files/Microsoft Games

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Meebers" <justme@idontkno.com> wrote in message
news:uJWtZIzwHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I just downloaded "hold em poker" from the extras.....where is it
>supposed to be, cannot find it in games..

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

As I said I am a little disappointed as well.
But since it was essentially an unknown feature, I put little value in
it.

"...i will shut up and keep quiet"
Not necessary.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
news8AEEBF6-510F-4F18-BCF7-EAFCE82B2A5A@microsoft.com...
> Go and have a look at the official advertising for vista ultimate
> and the many words used to describe "ultimate extras". i strongly
> suspect that it induced many to buy this version of vista.
>
> Or am I alone in being felt let down ???
>
> If I am i will shut up and keep quiet.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:uV%238f9ywHHA.736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> David
>> While I am disappointed there are not more frequent extras, I know
>> of nothing that Microsoft said that promised them more frequently.
>>
>> Hopefully Ultimate Extras is not the only feature someone uses to
>> justify spending more for Windows Vista Ultimate.
>> If that is the case, there are probably better options especially
>> since details of exactly what the extras will be remains unknown.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
>>> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the
>>> marketing hype.
>>>
>>> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
>>> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate
>>> users. The add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that
>>> separated the $399 Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>>>
>>> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a
>>> fourth the next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft.
>>> And it remains forgotten or so it seems.
>>>
>>> When will I ever learn????
>>>
>>> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so,
>>> it's theft.
>>> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be
>>> delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.
>>
>

 

[Dave Cox]

"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in
news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com:
> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the
> marketing hype.
>
> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate
> users. The add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that
> separated the $399 Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>
> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a
> fourth the next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft.
> And it remains forgotten or so it seems.
>
> When will I ever learn????
>
> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so,
> it's theft. But a company that charges a customer for services
> (never to be delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.
>


You all can read the WHOLE aticle here.

http://tinyurl.com/2mv59l

Reads to me the OP's idea of (never to be delivered) is comming the
end of summer. (but I wont hold my breath)

I also hope that no one would buy Ultimate just for the Extras

Dave

 

[paula]

I'm with you David.
I am still totally peeved about this.

Paula

"David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
> hype.
>
> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>
> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
> forgotten or so it seems.
>
> When will I ever learn????
>
> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
> theft.
> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be delivered)
> may be breaking a few laws as well.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

It is hardly the end of the world.. what were you expecting anyway? Adobe
Photoshop CS3?


"paula" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:O3P1pR0wHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I'm with you David.
> I am still totally peeved about this.
>
> Paula
>
> "David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
>> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
>> hype.
>>
>> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
>> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
>> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
>> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>>
>> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
>> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
>> forgotten or so it seems.
>>
>> When will I ever learn????
>>
>> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
>> theft.
>> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be
>> delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.
>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[MICHAEL]

That was funny. -)

But, it is ridiculous how Microsoft and even Bill
hyped the Extras and they really haven't delivered.


-Michael

* Mike Hall - MVP:
> It is hardly the end of the world.. what were you expecting anyway? Adobe
> Photoshop CS3?
>
>
> "paula" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:O3P1pR0wHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I'm with you David.
>> I am still totally peeved about this.
>>
>> Paula
>>
>> "David Edward Ford" <zoomkid_scotland@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:82181508-447E-4025-85E7-C7C52D5A8FC5@microsoft.com...
>>> Once again I've been taken for a complete fool. I believed the marketing
>>> hype.
>>>
>>> Microsoft is not making good on its promise to deliver Extras -
>>> downloadable software that's available only to Vista Ultimate users. The
>>> add-ons were to be one of a handful of features that separated the $399
>>> Ultimate from the $239 Home Premium.
>>>
>>> But after releasing three Extras in January, then a beta of a fourth the
>>> next month, the feature seemed forgotten by Microsoft. And it remains
>>> forgotten or so it seems.
>>>
>>> When will I ever learn????
>>>
>>> Microsoft are fanatical about software piracy - and rightly so, it's
>>> theft.
>>> But a company that charges a customer for services (never to be
>>> delivered) may be breaking a few laws as well.
>

 

[Frank]

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> It is hardly the end of the world.. what were you expecting anyway?
> Adobe Photoshop CS3?


Well...uhhh..yeah, why not!
Frank

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Guys

My guess is that they have more important issues which may not have been
fully apparent prior to the RTM launch.. we could yet be surprized too. if
Yahoo are taken over by MS, we will get a free Yahoo Messenger.. maybe.. -)


"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
news:O4uuyE1wHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
>> It is hardly the end of the world.. what were you expecting anyway? Adobe
>> Photoshop CS3?
>
>
> Well...uhhh..yeah, why not!
> Frank

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/