Windows Vista Mail

E

Ellfe

Please help somebody, I'm new at this.....when sending an email through
Windows vista it goes straight into my outbox with what looks like a folder
picture beside it not an envelope...
 
F

Femi Odewale

Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to configure it
with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account details [Tools -
Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to use it to send emails from
your company email account it may be you are using the wrong client.

Regards

Femi
"Ellfe" <Ellfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:02D339BC-2994-4672-9109-5FCC87FE2240@microsoft.com...
> Please help somebody, I'm new at this.....when sending an email through
> Windows vista it goes straight into my outbox with what looks like a
> folder
> picture beside it not an envelope...
 
J

Julian

"Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to configure
> it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account details [Tools -
> Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to use it to send emails
> from your company email account it may be you are using the wrong client.


Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting their
resources into its replacement http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas

It has it's own newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate and
consider all suggestions with respect to future development.

I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this particular
case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.

BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.
 
A

Alias

Julian wrote:
>
>
> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to use
>> it to send emails from your company email account it may be you are
>> using the wrong client.

>
> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting their
> resources into its replacement http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>
> It has it's own newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate and
> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>
> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this particular
> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>
> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.


Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is irresponsible,
dear. If you don't understand why, read the release notes for this BETA.

To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works wonderfully.
Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird

Alias
 
I

Ian

You appear to be asking why it goes into the Outbox before sending. This is
common practice in Outlook Express now called Vista Mail. If you want to
write several emails before sending, going into the Outbox you can send all
in one go. If you want to change this Click the Tools menu and Open Options
and the Send tab, put a tick in Send immediately.


"Ellfe" <Ellfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:02D339BC-2994-4672-9109-5FCC87FE2240@microsoft.com...
> Please help somebody, I'm new at this.....when sending an email through
> Windows vista it goes straight into my outbox with what looks like a
> folder
> picture beside it not an envelope...
>
 
J

Julian

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Julian wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to use it
>>> to send emails from your company email account it may be you are using
>>> the wrong client.

>>
>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting their
>> resources into its replacement
>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>
>> It has it's own newsgroup
>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate and
>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>
>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this particular
>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>
>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.

>
> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is irresponsible,
> dear. If you don't understand why, read the release notes for this BETA.


You have no experience with WM or WLM.
There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
no matter how dodgy the alternative..

Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
at the Windows Mail group.

>
> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works wonderfully. Get
> it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird


There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.

At least be honest and say something like...
Replace WM with Thunderbird AND a full function newsreader
which is what someone wanting to fully replace WM would have to do.

note. I really like Thunderbird and wouldn't hesitate to use it
if it could do the job.

Alias... source of half truths and full lies.
 
A

Alias

Julian wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Julian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>>>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to
>>>> use it to send emails from your company email account it may be you
>>>> are using the wrong client.
>>>
>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting their
>>> resources into its replacement
>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>
>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate and
>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>
>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this particular
>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>
>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.

>>
>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is irresponsible,
>> dear. If you don't understand why, read the release notes for this BETA.

>
> You have no experience with WM or WLM.


You're right but that doesn't make my statement about BETAs false, now
does it, dear?

> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
> no matter how dodgy the alternative..


Yes, there is.

>
> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
> at the Windows Mail group.


Read the release notes if you want it from the horse's mouth, dear.

>
>>
>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works wonderfully.
>> Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird

>
> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.


What functionality, dear?

>
> At least be honest and say something like...
> Replace WM with Thunderbird AND a full function newsreader
> which is what someone wanting to fully replace WM would have to do.


Thunderbird has a news reader. I am using it as I type, dear.

>
> note. I really like Thunderbird and wouldn't hesitate to use it
> if it could do the job.


What job can't it do, dear?

>
> Alias... source of half truths and full lies.


You have yet to point one single half truth or full lie, dear.

Alias
 
J

Julian

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:Onf$M9wwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Julian wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>>>>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to use
>>>>> it to send emails from your company email account it may be you are
>>>>> using the wrong client.
>>>>
>>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting their
>>>> resources into its replacement
>>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>>
>>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate and
>>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>>
>>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this particular
>>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>>
>>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.
>>>
>>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is irresponsible,
>>> dear. If you don't understand why, read the release notes for this BETA.

>>
>> You have no experience with WM or WLM.

>
> You're right but that doesn't make my statement about BETAs false, now
> does it, dear?
>
>> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
>> no matter how dodgy the alternative..

>
> Yes, there is.


What advantage has WM over WLM?

>
>>
>> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
>> at the Windows Mail group.

>
> Read the release notes if you want it from the horse's mouth, dear.
>
>>
>>>
>>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works wonderfully.
>>> Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird

>>
>> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
>> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.

>
> What functionality, dear?


Combine and decode.
Marking read messages in all groups.

>
>>
>> At least be honest and say something like...
>> Replace WM with Thunderbird AND a full function newsreader
>> which is what someone wanting to fully replace WM would have to do.

>
> Thunderbird has a news reader. I am using it as I type, dear.



>>
>> note. I really like Thunderbird and wouldn't hesitate to use it
>> if it could do the job.

>
> What job can't it do, dear?


Combine and decode.
Marking read messages in all groups.
 
A

Alias

Julian wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:Onf$M9wwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Julian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>>>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>>>>>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to
>>>>>> use it to send emails from your company email account it may be
>>>>>> you are using the wrong client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting their
>>>>> resources into its replacement
>>>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>>>
>>>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate and
>>>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this
>>>>> particular
>>>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.
>>>>
>>>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is
>>>> irresponsible, dear. If you don't understand why, read the release
>>>> notes for this BETA.
>>>
>>> You have no experience with WM or WLM.

>>
>> You're right but that doesn't make my statement about BETAs false, now
>> does it, dear?
>>
>>> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
>>> no matter how dodgy the alternative..

>>
>> Yes, there is.

>
> What advantage has WM over WLM?
>
>>
>>>
>>> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
>>> at the Windows Mail group.

>>
>> Read the release notes if you want it from the horse's mouth, dear.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works
>>>> wonderfully. Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird
>>>
>>> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
>>> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.

>>
>> What functionality, dear?

>
> Combine and decode.


XNews is better than all of them for that.

> Marking read messages in all groups.


BFD

>>
>>>
>>> At least be honest and say something like...
>>> Replace WM with Thunderbird AND a full function newsreader
>>> which is what someone wanting to fully replace WM would have to do.

>>
>> Thunderbird has a news reader. I am using it as I type, dear.

>
>
>>>
>>> note. I really like Thunderbird and wouldn't hesitate to use it
>>> if it could do the job.

>>
>> What job can't it do, dear?

>
> Combine and decode.
> Marking read messages in all groups.
 
J

Julian

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:uNZ0RKxwHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Julian wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:Onf$M9wwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>>>>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>>>>>>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to
>>>>>>> use it to send emails from your company email account it may be you
>>>>>>> are using the wrong client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>>>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> resources into its replacement
>>>>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this
>>>>>> particular
>>>>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is irresponsible,
>>>>> dear. If you don't understand why, read the release notes for this
>>>>> BETA.
>>>>
>>>> You have no experience with WM or WLM.
>>>
>>> You're right but that doesn't make my statement about BETAs false, now
>>> does it, dear?
>>>
>>>> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
>>>> no matter how dodgy the alternative..
>>>
>>> Yes, there is.

>>
>> What advantage has WM over WLM?
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
>>>> at the Windows Mail group.
>>>
>>> Read the release notes if you want it from the horse's mouth, dear.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works wonderfully.
>>>>> Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird
>>>>
>>>> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
>>>> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.
>>>
>>> What functionality, dear?

>>
>> Combine and decode.

>
> XNews is better than all of them for that.


So why not recommend Xnews as a WM replacement?
 
A

Alias

Julian wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:uNZ0RKxwHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Julian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:Onf$M9wwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>>>>>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like
>>>>>>>> account details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are
>>>>>>>> trying to use it to send emails from your company email account
>>>>>>>> it may be you are using the wrong client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>>>>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> resources into its replacement
>>>>>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to
>>>>>>> debate and
>>>>>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this
>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is
>>>>>> irresponsible, dear. If you don't understand why, read the release
>>>>>> notes for this BETA.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have no experience with WM or WLM.
>>>>
>>>> You're right but that doesn't make my statement about BETAs false,
>>>> now does it, dear?
>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
>>>>> no matter how dodgy the alternative..
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is.
>>>
>>> What advantage has WM over WLM?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
>>>>> at the Windows Mail group.
>>>>
>>>> Read the release notes if you want it from the horse's mouth, dear.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works
>>>>>> wonderfully. Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird
>>>>>
>>>>> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
>>>>> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.
>>>>
>>>> What functionality, dear?
>>>
>>> Combine and decode.

>>
>> XNews is better than all of them for that.

>
> So why not recommend Xnews as a WM replacement?
>
>


Because the OP was talking about *email*, dear.

Alias
 
J

Julian

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:#QGYLQxwHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Julian wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:uNZ0RKxwHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>> news:Onf$M9wwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>>>>>>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>>>>>>>>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to
>>>>>>>>> use it to send emails from your company email account it may be
>>>>>>>>> you are using the wrong client.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>>>>>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> resources into its replacement
>>>>>>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this
>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is
>>>>>>> irresponsible, dear. If you don't understand why, read the release
>>>>>>> notes for this BETA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have no experience with WM or WLM.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're right but that doesn't make my statement about BETAs false, now
>>>>> does it, dear?
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
>>>>>> no matter how dodgy the alternative..
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, there is.
>>>>
>>>> What advantage has WM over WLM?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
>>>>>> at the Windows Mail group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the release notes if you want it from the horse's mouth, dear.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works
>>>>>>> wonderfully. Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
>>>>>> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>> What functionality, dear?
>>>>
>>>> Combine and decode.
>>>
>>> XNews is better than all of them for that.

>>
>> So why not recommend Xnews as a WM replacement?
>>
>>

>
> Because the OP was talking about *email*, dear.


The topic is Windows Vista Mail.
That doesn't mean the OP wants to dispense with
full newsreader functionality
or have to use two tools instead.

ie. Your usual solution to any problem...
 
A

Alias

Julian wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:#QGYLQxwHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Julian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:uNZ0RKxwHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Onf$M9wwHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Julian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need
>>>>>>>>>> to configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like
>>>>>>>>>> account details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you
>>>>>>>>>> are trying to use it to send emails from your company email
>>>>>>>>>> account it may be you are using the wrong client.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>>>>>>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are
>>>>>>>>> putting their
>>>>>>>>> resources into its replacement
>>>>>>>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>>>>>>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to
>>>>>>>>> debate and
>>>>>>>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this
>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is
>>>>>>>> irresponsible, dear. If you don't understand why, read the
>>>>>>>> release notes for this BETA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have no experience with WM or WLM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right but that doesn't make my statement about BETAs false,
>>>>>> now does it, dear?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
>>>>>>> no matter how dodgy the alternative..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, there is.
>>>>>
>>>>> What advantage has WM over WLM?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
>>>>>>> at the Windows Mail group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read the release notes if you want it from the horse's mouth, dear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works
>>>>>>>> wonderfully. Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
>>>>>>> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What functionality, dear?
>>>>>
>>>>> Combine and decode.
>>>>
>>>> XNews is better than all of them for that.
>>>
>>> So why not recommend Xnews as a WM replacement?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Because the OP was talking about *email*, dear.

>
> The topic is Windows Vista Mail.
> That doesn't mean the OP wants to dispense with
> full newsreader functionality
> or have to use two tools instead.
>
> ie. Your usual solution to any problem...
>
>
>
>


Unlike you, who recommends a BETA program, I offered the OP a solution
to his email problems. If he isn't into binaries or marking all the
groups read, my solution will also provide him with an excellent news
reader as well, dear.

Alias
 
S

Steve Cochran

Please don't use me as a source or reference for your arguments. I disagree
with you and would not recommend WalMail to anyone, beta or not.

steve

"Julian" <Julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9224D651-3012-4871-AA6C-B6A2D0CCAFA9@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:Ow1a$MwwHHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Julian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Femi Odewale" <fembo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:503D6400-D055-409F-8594-AD3D76D5B7DF@microsoft.com...
>>>> Windows Vista mail is the new Outlook Express. You will need to
>>>> configure it with your hotmail, yahoo, google or such like account
>>>> details [Tools - Accounts - Add...]. If however you are trying to use
>>>> it to send emails from your company email account it may be you are
>>>> using the wrong client.
>>>
>>> Don't bother with Windows Mail, it is virtually redundant and not
>>> receiving much attention (if any) from M$ since they are putting their
>>> resources into its replacement
>>> http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>>
>>> It has it's own newsgroup
>>> microsoft.public.windows.vista.live.mail.desktop
>>> which, unusually, has active M$ personel who are willing to debate and
>>> consider all suggestions with respect to future development.
>>>
>>> I find the product quite good and the attitude of M$ in this particular
>>> case to be just what one would wish of a software supplier.
>>>
>>> BTW it is easy to install and adopts all the WM settings.

>>
>> Advising someone to use a BETA version of a product is irresponsible,
>> dear. If you don't understand why, read the release notes for this BETA.

>
> You have no experience with WM or WLM.
> There is nothing irresponsible about encouraging people off WM
> no matter how dodgy the alternative..
>
> Talk to those with lots of experience ie. Gary, Frank and Steve
> at the Windows Mail group.
>
>>
>> To the OP: use Thunderbird as it is not in BETA and works wonderfully.
>> Get it at http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird

>
> There you go again... encouraging people to go for an option
> that simply cannot reproduce the functionality.
>
> At least be honest and say something like...
> Replace WM with Thunderbird AND a full function newsreader
> which is what someone wanting to fully replace WM would have to do.
>
> note. I really like Thunderbird and wouldn't hesitate to use it
> if it could do the job.
>
> Alias... source of half truths and full lies.
 
J

Julian

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:eBlsmizwHHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Please don't use me as a source or reference for your arguments. I
> disagree with you and would not recommend WalMail to anyone, beta or not.


I meant that you had a lot of experience with respect to
WM problems but see how it could be misunderstood.
 
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