Is Microsoft aware?

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p.jayant

Last week, I had a situation of a system infection by Trojan W32 Worm
Looksky which has left me wondering if Microsoft is aware that suppliers of
three software packages in the areas of Privacy, Security and Error cleaning
are using terrorizing and harassing tactics to pressure computer users into
buying their software, using Microsoft's proprietary Windows Alert box for
creating the impression that they are the suppliers of Privacy, Spyware
Control, Error cleaning software, recommended by Microsoft.



Microsoft's proprietary Widows Alert Box keeps popping up every 30 seconds
informing the user that his system is under threat etc. and asks the user to
reply if he would like to go to the SecureSystem software (recommended by
Microsoft?) website for removing the malware on the system. Even if the user
says 'no', the application page on which the user is working is blanked out
and the SecureSystem webpage is brought up. This is followed by
manufacturers of other software packages like Ultimate Cleaner, Privacy
protector etc. With these three and the Microsoft Windows Alert Box popping
up turn by turn every few seconds, the user is not allowed to work on any
application, since the user is kept unendingly busy closing the up the
popups.



These evil suppliers put their shortcuts not only on the desktop but also in
the StartUp group and the Favourites in Internet Explorer. Further, They
regenerate themselves in the same locations, even if the user tries to
delete them. SystemSecure goes to the extent of removing the user's default
webpage in Internet Explorer and replace it by their own home page. Even
after putting it back to ones's Default webpage, LookSky is able to remove
the default web-page and replace it with SystemSecure's web-page without
fail.



I did manage to search on the Intenet, struggling my way through the maze of
popups and download the Smitfraud Fix for the Worm. But I am wondering how
Microsoft has not taken any legal action on these software suppliers who are
using the worm to sell their products by terrorizing customers by creating
the false impression that they are Microsoft's recommended suppliers of
software for these areas.



P. Jayant
 
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Leythos

In article <ed5LSpQ9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, p_jayant@dataone.in
says...
>
> Last week, I had a situation of a system infection by Trojan W32 Worm
> Looksky which has left me wondering if Microsoft is aware that suppliers of
> three software packages in the areas of Privacy, Security and Error cleaning
> are using terrorizing and harassing tactics to pressure computer users into
> buying their software, using Microsoft's proprietary Windows Alert box for
> creating the impression that they are the suppliers of Privacy, Spyware
> Control, Error cleaning software, recommended by Microsoft.


Anyone that's had a computer for the last 10+ years would know how to
avert that problem, just following the basic MS security measures they
provide.

It sounds like you've been asleep for the last 10 years because security
threats have been listed/talked about in every form of media (news,
radio, news print, talk shows, etc...) for at least 10 years.

MS even provides clear instructions on how to block the threats, but you
have to be awake to learn.

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Robert Moir

"p.jayant" <p_jayant@dataone.in> wrote in message
news:ed5LSpQ9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Last week, I had a situation of a system infection by Trojan W32 Worm
> Looksky which has left me wondering if Microsoft is aware that suppliers
> of
> three software packages in the areas of Privacy, Security and Error
> cleaning
> are using terrorizing and harassing tactics to pressure computer users
> into
> buying their software, using Microsoft's proprietary Windows Alert box for
> creating the impression that they are the suppliers of Privacy, Spyware
> Control, Error cleaning software, recommended by Microsoft.


Wow. It's like a telegram from 1999. Let me give you some advice... Buy
Microsoft shares and then flog them about 2003 or 2004 or so then buy Apple
shares, don't invest in boo.com or any other 'web bubble' companies, that
won't end well.
 
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p jayant

On Sep 12, 11:58 am, "p.jayant" <p_jay...@dataone.in> wrote:
> Last week, I had a situation of a system infection by Trojan W32 Worm
> Looksky which has left me wondering if Microsoft is aware that suppliers of
> three software packages in the areas of Privacy, Security and Error cleaning
> are using terrorizing and harassing tactics to pressure computer users into
> buying their software, using Microsoft's proprietary Windows Alert box for
> creating the impression that they are the suppliers of Privacy, Spyware
> Control, Error cleaning software, recommended by Microsoft.
>
> Microsoft's proprietary Widows Alert Box keeps popping up every 30 seconds
> informing the user that his system is under threat etc. and asks the user to
> reply if he would like to go to the SecureSystem software (recommended by
> Microsoft?) website for removing the malware on the system. Even if the user
> says 'no', the application page on which the user is working is blanked out
> and the SecureSystem webpage is brought up. This is followed by
> manufacturers of other software packages like Ultimate Cleaner, Privacy
> protector etc. With these three and the Microsoft Windows Alert Box popping
> up turn by turn every few seconds, the user is not allowed to work on any
> application, since the user is kept unendingly busy closing the up the
> popups.
>
> These evil suppliers put their shortcuts not only on the desktop but also in
> the StartUp group and the Favourites in Internet Explorer. Further, They
> regenerate themselves in the same locations, even if the user tries to
> delete them. SystemSecure goes to the extent of removing the user's default
> webpage in Internet Explorer and replace it by their own home page. Even
> after putting it back to ones's Default webpage, LookSky is able to remove
> the default web-page and replace it with SystemSecure's web-page without
> fail.
>
> I did manage to search on the Intenet, struggling my way through the maze of
> popups and download the Smitfraud Fix for the Worm. But I am wondering how
> Microsoft has not taken any legal action on these software suppliers who are
> using the worm to sell their products by terrorizing customers by creating
> the false impression that they are Microsoft's recommended suppliers of
> software for these areas.
>
> P. Jayant


True. Several computer users have faced the kind of problem faced by
me last week during the last 10 or more years.
Also True. Microsoft has done a great deal to educate sleepy and
ignorant users like me to take proper steps to protect computers from
attacks.
But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
systems with worms?

P. Jayant
 
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Leythos

In article <1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
p.n.jayant@gmail.com says...
> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
> systems with worms?


How the OS is used is up to you and what you allow. If you don't want to
allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the OS that are exposed for
use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to limit their access to YOUR
COMPUTER.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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Milo \(MSPSS\)

Microsoft is but always active on this issue, from the 90`s virus to most
current issue`s of adware prompting instances ( misleading products
manifesting itself as a protection tools ).

sample among many action taken by Microsoft domestic and International to
stop such
http://www.crime-research.org/news/26.08.2005/1455/

Also Microsoft has also setup and reverently pursued all out campaign and
security awareness across the United States in different form of media e.g.
http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx as well as direct assistance
support for all Windows users with security issue via Microsoft Security
from home users to corporate users in need or those who have already
security related concern.

As well as coordination with different security partners to better protect
Windows user world wide.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/partners/default.mspx

Understand that Security is an ever changing challenge - a cycle/seasonal -
spyware name comes and go they can change web servers ( relaying bad
programs at will since they are very mobile - fly by night companies ) ,
and also the usage of the such instances as it mimic microsoft or windows -
this is their scheme to mislead unknowing users - awareness is but a must.

For more information and assistance please call Microsoft Security - 1 866
727 2338






"p jayant" <p.n.jayant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 12, 11:58 am, "p.jayant" <p_jay...@dataone.in> wrote:
>> Last week, I had a situation of a system infection by Trojan W32 Worm
>> Looksky which has left me wondering if Microsoft is aware that suppliers
>> of
>> three software packages in the areas of Privacy, Security and Error
>> cleaning
>> are using terrorizing and harassing tactics to pressure computer users
>> into
>> buying their software, using Microsoft's proprietary Windows Alert box
>> for
>> creating the impression that they are the suppliers of Privacy, Spyware
>> Control, Error cleaning software, recommended by Microsoft.
>>
>> Microsoft's proprietary Widows Alert Box keeps popping up every 30
>> seconds
>> informing the user that his system is under threat etc. and asks the user
>> to
>> reply if he would like to go to the SecureSystem software (recommended by
>> Microsoft?) website for removing the malware on the system. Even if the
>> user
>> says 'no', the application page on which the user is working is blanked
>> out
>> and the SecureSystem webpage is brought up. This is followed by
>> manufacturers of other software packages like Ultimate Cleaner, Privacy
>> protector etc. With these three and the Microsoft Windows Alert Box
>> popping
>> up turn by turn every few seconds, the user is not allowed to work on any
>> application, since the user is kept unendingly busy closing the up the
>> popups.
>>
>> These evil suppliers put their shortcuts not only on the desktop but also
>> in
>> the StartUp group and the Favourites in Internet Explorer. Further, They
>> regenerate themselves in the same locations, even if the user tries to
>> delete them. SystemSecure goes to the extent of removing the user's
>> default
>> webpage in Internet Explorer and replace it by their own home page. Even
>> after putting it back to ones's Default webpage, LookSky is able to
>> remove
>> the default web-page and replace it with SystemSecure's web-page without
>> fail.
>>
>> I did manage to search on the Intenet, struggling my way through the maze
>> of
>> popups and download the Smitfraud Fix for the Worm. But I am wondering
>> how
>> Microsoft has not taken any legal action on these software suppliers who
>> are
>> using the worm to sell their products by terrorizing customers by
>> creating
>> the false impression that they are Microsoft's recommended suppliers of
>> software for these areas.
>>
>> P. Jayant

>
> True. Several computer users have faced the kind of problem faced by
> me last week during the last 10 or more years.
> Also True. Microsoft has done a great deal to educate sleepy and
> ignorant users like me to take proper steps to protect computers from
> attacks.
> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
> systems with worms?
>
> P. Jayant
>
>
 
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norm

Leythos wrote:
> In article <1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> p.n.jayant@gmail.com says...
>> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
>> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
>> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
>> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
>> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
>> systems with worms?

>
> How the OS is used is up to you and what you allow. If you don't want to
> allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the OS that are exposed for
> use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to limit their access to YOUR
> COMPUTER.
>

But this does not apply to ms, right?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622

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Leythos

In article <eJqSi6i9HHA.5456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
noone@afakeddomain.net says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > p.n.jayant@gmail.com says...
> >> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
> >> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
> >> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
> >> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
> >> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
> >> systems with worms?

> >
> > How the OS is used is up to you and what you allow. If you don't want to
> > allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the OS that are exposed for
> > use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to limit their access to YOUR
> > COMPUTER.
> >

> But this does not apply to ms, right?
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622


And what does that have to do with malware getting on machines?


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norm

Leythos wrote:
> In article <eJqSi6i9HHA.5456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> noone@afakeddomain.net says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>>> p.n.jayant@gmail.com says...
>>>> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
>>>> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
>>>> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
>>>> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
>>>> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
>>>> systems with worms?
>>> How the OS is used is up to you and what you allow. If you don't want to
>>> allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the OS that are exposed for
>>> use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to limit their access to YOUR
>>> COMPUTER.
>>>

>> But this does not apply to ms, right?
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622

>
> And what does that have to do with malware getting on machines?
>
>

"If you don't want to allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the
OS that are exposed for use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to
limit their access to YOUR COMPUTER."
Somehow, it evidently is NOT up to the user to limit access to one's
computer when ms is the one doing the accessing. It makes no difference
if it is malware OR ms doing the accessing. It is not right for anyone
to access by deceit or without permission. It may happen, but it is not
right.

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norm
 
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Leythos

In article <Ohc2pNl9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
noone@afakeddomain.net says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <eJqSi6i9HHA.5456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> > noone@afakeddomain.net says...
> >> Leythos wrote:
> >>> In article <1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> >>> p.n.jayant@gmail.com says...
> >>>> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
> >>>> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
> >>>> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
> >>>> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
> >>>> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
> >>>> systems with worms?
> >>> How the OS is used is up to you and what you allow. If you don't want to
> >>> allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the OS that are exposed for
> >>> use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to limit their access to YOUR
> >>> COMPUTER.
> >>>
> >> But this does not apply to ms, right?
> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622

> >
> > And what does that have to do with malware getting on machines?
> >
> >

> "If you don't want to allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the
> OS that are exposed for use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to
> limit their access to YOUR COMPUTER."
> Somehow, it evidently is NOT up to the user to limit access to one's
> computer when ms is the one doing the accessing. It makes no difference
> if it is malware OR ms doing the accessing. It is not right for anyone
> to access by deceit or without permission. It may happen, but it is not
> right.


Hm, lets see, you can control access to the internet by the OS, you just
don't appear to know how - even updates that you agreed to and didn't
know it, they can be blocked from working.

But, your FUD has nothing to do with this thread - it's about malware,
not about MS Updates.


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- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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norm

Leythos wrote:
> In article <Ohc2pNl9HHA.4432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> noone@afakeddomain.net says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <eJqSi6i9HHA.5456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>>> noone@afakeddomain.net says...
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>> In article <1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> p.n.jayant@gmail.com says...
>>>>>> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
>>>>>> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
>>>>>> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
>>>>>> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
>>>>>> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
>>>>>> systems with worms?
>>>>> How the OS is used is up to you and what you allow. If you don't want to
>>>>> allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the OS that are exposed for
>>>>> use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to limit their access to YOUR
>>>>> COMPUTER.
>>>>>
>>>> But this does not apply to ms, right?
>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?cat=55&tag=nl.e622
>>> And what does that have to do with malware getting on machines?
>>>
>>>

>> "If you don't want to allow apps/vendors/people to use features of the
>> OS that are exposed for use, then it's up to you, not Microsoft, to
>> limit their access to YOUR COMPUTER."
>> Somehow, it evidently is NOT up to the user to limit access to one's
>> computer when ms is the one doing the accessing. It makes no difference
>> if it is malware OR ms doing the accessing. It is not right for anyone
>> to access by deceit or without permission. It may happen, but it is not
>> right.

>
> Hm, lets see, you can control access to the internet by the OS, you just
> don't appear to know how - even updates that you agreed to and didn't
> know it, they can be blocked from working.
>
> But, your FUD has nothing to do with this thread - it's about malware,
> not about MS Updates.
>
>

In this case, they might be one and the same. )

--
norm
 
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Leythos

In article <Og2vVql9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
noone@afakeddomain.net says...
> > But, your FUD has nothing to do with this thread - it's about malware,
> > not about MS Updates.
> >
> >

> In this case, they might be one and the same. )


Or one could be trolling

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
N

norm

Leythos wrote:
> In article <Og2vVql9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> noone@afakeddomain.net says...
>>> But, your FUD has nothing to do with this thread - it's about malware,
>>> not about MS Updates.
>>>
>>>

>> In this case, they might be one and the same. )

>
> Or one could be trolling
>

Or not.

--
norm
 
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p jayant

On Sep 13, 10:06 pm, "Milo \(MSPSS\)"
<V-4jp...@mssupport.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Microsoft is but always active on this issue, from the 90`s virus to most
> current issue`s of adware prompting instances ( misleading products
> manifesting itself as a protection tools ).
>
> sample among many action taken by Microsoft domestic and International to
> stop suchhttp://www.crime-research.org/news/26.08.2005/1455/
>
> Also Microsoft has also setup and reverently pursued all out campaign and
> security awareness across the United States in different form of media e.g.http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspxas well as direct assistance
> support for all Windows users with security issue via Microsoft Security
> from home users to corporate users in need or those who have already
> security related concern.
>
> As well as coordination with different security partners to better protect
> Windows user world wide.http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/partners/default.mspx
>
> Understand that Security is an ever changing challenge - a cycle/seasonal -
> spyware name comes and go they can change web servers ( relaying bad
> programs at will since they are very mobile - fly by night companies ) ,
> and also the usage of the such instances as it mimic microsoft or windows -
> this is their scheme to mislead unknowing users - awareness is but a must.
>
> For more information and assistance please call Microsoft Security - 1 866
> 727 2338
>
> "p jayant" <p.n.jay...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Sep 12, 11:58 am, "p.jayant" <p_jay...@dataone.in> wrote:
> >> Last week, I had a situation of a system infection by Trojan W32 Worm
> >> Looksky which has left me wondering if Microsoft is aware that suppliers
> >> of
> >> three software packages in the areas of Privacy, Security and Error
> >> cleaning
> >> are using terrorizing and harassing tactics to pressure computer users
> >> into
> >> buying their software, using Microsoft's proprietary Windows Alert box
> >> for
> >> creating the impression that they are the suppliers of Privacy, Spyware
> >> Control, Error cleaning software, recommended by Microsoft.

>
> >> Microsoft's proprietary Widows Alert Box keeps popping up every 30
> >> seconds
> >> informing the user that his system is under threat etc. and asks the user
> >> to
> >> reply if he would like to go to the SecureSystem software (recommended by
> >> Microsoft?) website for removing the malware on the system. Even if the
> >> user
> >> says 'no', the application page on which the user is working is blanked
> >> out
> >> and the SecureSystem webpage is brought up. This is followed by
> >> manufacturers of other software packages like Ultimate Cleaner, Privacy
> >> protector etc. With these three and the Microsoft Windows Alert Box
> >> popping
> >> up turn by turn every few seconds, the user is not allowed to work on any
> >> application, since the user is kept unendingly busy closing the up the
> >> popups.

>
> >> These evil suppliers put their shortcuts not only on the desktop but also
> >> in
> >> the StartUp group and the Favourites in Internet Explorer. Further, They
> >> regenerate themselves in the same locations, even if the user tries to
> >> delete them. SystemSecure goes to the extent of removing the user's
> >> default
> >> webpage in Internet Explorer and replace it by their own home page. Even
> >> after putting it back to ones's Default webpage, LookSky is able to
> >> remove
> >> the default web-page and replace it with SystemSecure's web-page without
> >> fail.

>
> >> I did manage to search on the Intenet, struggling my way through the maze
> >> of
> >> popups and download the Smitfraud Fix for the Worm. But I am wondering
> >> how
> >> Microsoft has not taken any legal action on these software suppliers who
> >> are
> >> using the worm to sell their products by terrorizing customers by
> >> creating
> >> the false impression that they are Microsoft's recommended suppliers of
> >> software for these areas.

>
> >> P. Jayant

>
> > True. Several computer users have faced the kind of problem faced by
> > me last week during the last 10 or more years.
> > Also True. Microsoft has done a great deal to educate sleepy and
> > ignorant users like me to take proper steps to protect computers from
> > attacks.
> > But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
> > like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
> > proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
> > products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
> > been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
> > systems with worms?

>
> > P. Jayant- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


SystemSecure or Ultimate Cleaner are obviously not fly-by-night
operators. They are blatantly advertising through their web-pages.If
such operators are fraudulently using proprietary features of Windows
like the Windows System Security Alarm Box not only to create the
impression that their products are recommended by Microsoft but
infecting Microsoft user Systems with Trojan Worms to terrorize
Microsoft customers into buying their software, Microsoft cannot wash
their hands off by pointing out at the all-out campaign they have
carried on of warning their customers of malware attacks. I am not a
legal expert and do not know what penalties apply for such heinous
crimes in different countries but Microsoft customers would expect
Microsoft to put terrorists like SystemSecure and Ultimate Cleaner out
of business through legal action.

P. Jayant
 
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Robert Moir

"p jayant" <p.n.jayant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189762336.216128.55390@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...

> SystemSecure or Ultimate Cleaner are obviously not fly-by-night
> operators. They are blatantly advertising through their web-pages.If
> such operators are fraudulently using proprietary features of Windows
> like the Windows System Security Alarm Box not only to create the
> impression that their products are recommended by Microsoft but
> infecting Microsoft user Systems with Trojan Worms to terrorize
> Microsoft customers into buying their software, Microsoft cannot wash
> their hands off by pointing out at the all-out campaign they have
> carried on of warning their customers of malware attacks. I am not a
> legal expert and do not know what penalties apply for such heinous
> crimes in different countries but Microsoft customers would expect
> Microsoft to put terrorists like SystemSecure and Ultimate Cleaner out
> of business through legal action.


I'd love to know if you really believe this or if you make a point of
drinking heavily before every single post, or what.
 
W

wng_z3r0

There's no 'proprietary' microsoft code being used. This is a TACTIC used by
rogue cleaners (i.e. the smitfraud variants). Microsoft is not the one
telling you that you are infected.

wng
"p jayant" <p.n.jayant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189655783.148358.22010@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 12, 11:58 am, "p.jayant" <p_jay...@dataone.in> wrote:
>> Last week, I had a situation of a system infection by Trojan W32 Worm
>> Looksky which has left me wondering if Microsoft is aware that suppliers
>> of
>> three software packages in the areas of Privacy, Security and Error
>> cleaning
>> are using terrorizing and harassing tactics to pressure computer users
>> into
>> buying their software, using Microsoft's proprietary Windows Alert box
>> for
>> creating the impression that they are the suppliers of Privacy, Spyware
>> Control, Error cleaning software, recommended by Microsoft.
>>
>> Microsoft's proprietary Widows Alert Box keeps popping up every 30
>> seconds
>> informing the user that his system is under threat etc. and asks the user
>> to
>> reply if he would like to go to the SecureSystem software (recommended by
>> Microsoft?) website for removing the malware on the system. Even if the
>> user
>> says 'no', the application page on which the user is working is blanked
>> out
>> and the SecureSystem webpage is brought up. This is followed by
>> manufacturers of other software packages like Ultimate Cleaner, Privacy
>> protector etc. With these three and the Microsoft Windows Alert Box
>> popping
>> up turn by turn every few seconds, the user is not allowed to work on any
>> application, since the user is kept unendingly busy closing the up the
>> popups.
>>
>> These evil suppliers put their shortcuts not only on the desktop but also
>> in
>> the StartUp group and the Favourites in Internet Explorer. Further, They
>> regenerate themselves in the same locations, even if the user tries to
>> delete them. SystemSecure goes to the extent of removing the user's
>> default
>> webpage in Internet Explorer and replace it by their own home page. Even
>> after putting it back to ones's Default webpage, LookSky is able to
>> remove
>> the default web-page and replace it with SystemSecure's web-page without
>> fail.
>>
>> I did manage to search on the Intenet, struggling my way through the maze
>> of
>> popups and download the Smitfraud Fix for the Worm. But I am wondering
>> how
>> Microsoft has not taken any legal action on these software suppliers who
>> are
>> using the worm to sell their products by terrorizing customers by
>> creating
>> the false impression that they are Microsoft's recommended suppliers of
>> software for these areas.
>>
>> P. Jayant

>
> True. Several computer users have faced the kind of problem faced by
> me last week during the last 10 or more years.
> Also True. Microsoft has done a great deal to educate sleepy and
> ignorant users like me to take proper steps to protect computers from
> attacks.
> But has Microsoft taken effective steps to stop software manufacturers
> like SystemSecure or UltimateCleaner from using Microsoft's
> proprietary features like Windows System Alert Box to publicize their
> products, blatantly giving a false impression that their products have
> been recommended by Microsoft and in the process, infecting user
> systems with worms?
>
> P. Jayant
>
>
 

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