System Restore only saves the last copy.

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mrhoads

Windows Vista Ultimate (32) on an HP Pavilon. I created many system restore
points but when I try to restore it only shows the last version.

I go to:
start, control panel, Backup and Restore Center. I click on "Repair Windows
using System Restore", then "choose a different restore point", then "next".
It only shows the last restore point.

I made three different restore points and it showed all three. I rebooted
and went back and it only had the last one. I have created 20 to 30 restore
point over the past several weeks and it still will only show me the last one.
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Mike Rhoads
 
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Michael Solomon

"mrhoads" <mrhoads43@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:B4193796-A940-424A-950C-A9FC2400F923@microsoft.com...
> Windows Vista Ultimate (32) on an HP Pavilon. I created many system
> restore
> points but when I try to restore it only shows the last version.
>
> I go to:
> start, control panel, Backup and Restore Center. I click on "Repair
> Windows
> using System Restore", then "choose a different restore point", then
> "next".
> It only shows the last restore point.
>
> I made three different restore points and it showed all three. I rebooted
> and went back and it only had the last one. I have created 20 to 30
> restore
> point over the past several weeks and it still will only show me the last
> one.
> --
> Mike Rhoads


If you happen to be dual booting with XP, XP wipes out restore points each
time you boot into it. If you're not dual booting with XP but happen to be
running any disk cleanup utilities, they too can wipe out restore points.

--
Michael Solomon
Backup is a PC user's best friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
 
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mrhoads

I do have a dual boot but have not booted to XP in a long time. I also have
several programs that clean the system. Is there any way to know what should
not be cleaned?
--
Mike Rhoads


"mrhoads" wrote:

> Windows Vista Ultimate (32) on an HP Pavilon. I created many system restore
> points but when I try to restore it only shows the last version.
>
> I go to:
> start, control panel, Backup and Restore Center. I click on "Repair Windows
> using System Restore", then "choose a different restore point", then "next".
> It only shows the last restore point.
>
> I made three different restore points and it showed all three. I rebooted
> and went back and it only had the last one. I have created 20 to 30 restore
> point over the past several weeks and it still will only show me the last one.
> --
> Mike Rhoads
 
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Peter Foldes

mrhoads

It does not matter if you boot or do not boot to XP the Restore Point in Vista will not keep other than the last Restore Point that is shown.

What is it that you mean by "Is there any way to know what should not be cleaned?" Can you be a bit more specific


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"mrhoads" <mrhoads43@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:A54686E3-480F-4FA4-BEAF-B5F84C547FE0@microsoft.com...
>I do have a dual boot but have not booted to XP in a long time. I also have
> several programs that clean the system. Is there any way to know what should
> not be cleaned?
> --
> Mike Rhoads
>
>
> "mrhoads" wrote:
>
>> Windows Vista Ultimate (32) on an HP Pavilon. I created many system restore
>> points but when I try to restore it only shows the last version.
>>
>> I go to:
>> start, control panel, Backup and Restore Center. I click on "Repair Windows
>> using System Restore", then "choose a different restore point", then "next".
>> It only shows the last restore point.
>>
>> I made three different restore points and it showed all three. I rebooted
>> and went back and it only had the last one. I have created 20 to 30 restore
>> point over the past several weeks and it still will only show me the last one.
>> --
>> Mike Rhoads
 
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mrhoads

The previous post said that some cleaning programs may remove restore points.
Since I can configure what gets removed, I wanted to know what not to clear
to keep the restore points. But I guess it does not make any difference
since I have dual boot. Is MS working on a fix, as this has saved me many
times and I am dissapointed if it is no longer available to me. Thanks for
your replys.
--
Mike Rhoads


"Peter Foldes" wrote:

> mrhoads
>
> It does not matter if you boot or do not boot to XP the Restore Point in Vista will not keep other than the last Restore Point that is shown.
>
> What is it that you mean by "Is there any way to know what should not be cleaned?" Can you be a bit more specific
>
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "mrhoads" <mrhoads43@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:A54686E3-480F-4FA4-BEAF-B5F84C547FE0@microsoft.com...
> >I do have a dual boot but have not booted to XP in a long time. I also have
> > several programs that clean the system. Is there any way to know what should
> > not be cleaned?
> > --
> > Mike Rhoads
> >
> >
> > "mrhoads" wrote:
> >
> >> Windows Vista Ultimate (32) on an HP Pavilon. I created many system restore
> >> points but when I try to restore it only shows the last version.
> >>
> >> I go to:
> >> start, control panel, Backup and Restore Center. I click on "Repair Windows
> >> using System Restore", then "choose a different restore point", then "next".
> >> It only shows the last restore point.
> >>
> >> I made three different restore points and it showed all three. I rebooted
> >> and went back and it only had the last one. I have created 20 to 30 restore
> >> point over the past several weeks and it still will only show me the last one.
> >> --
> >> Mike Rhoads

>
 
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Michael Solomon

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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mrhoads

It does not matter if you boot or do not boot to XP the Restore Point in
Vista will not keep other than the last Restore Point that is shown.

What is it that you mean by "Is there any way to know what should not be
cleaned?" Can you be a bit more specific


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Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

Thanks for the head's up, Peter.

--
Michael Solomon
Backup is a PC user's best friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
 
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Michael Solomon

"mrhoads" <mrhoads43@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:40AD08DA-330D-472B-8418-C3570D585B67@microsoft.com...
> The previous post said that some cleaning programs may remove restore
> points.
> Since I can configure what gets removed, I wanted to know what not to
> clear
> to keep the restore points. But I guess it does not make any difference
> since I have dual boot. Is MS working on a fix, as this has saved me many
> times and I am dissapointed if it is no longer available to me. Thanks
> for
> your replys.
> --
> Mike Rhoads
>
>
> "Peter Foldes" wrote:
>
>> mrhoads
>>
>> It does not matter if you boot or do not boot to XP the Restore Point in
>> Vista will not keep other than the last Restore Point that is shown.
>>
>> What is it that you mean by "Is there any way to know what should not be
>> cleaned?" Can you be a bit more specific
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "mrhoads" <mrhoads43@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:A54686E3-480F-4FA4-BEAF-B5F84C547FE0@microsoft.com...
>> >I do have a dual boot but have not booted to XP in a long time. I also
>> >have
>> > several programs that clean the system. Is there any way to know what
>> > should
>> > not be cleaned?
>> > --
>> > Mike Rhoads
>> >
>> >
>> > "mrhoads" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Windows Vista Ultimate (32) on an HP Pavilon. I created many system
>> >> restore
>> >> points but when I try to restore it only shows the last version.
>> >>
>> >> I go to:
>> >> start, control panel, Backup and Restore Center. I click on "Repair
>> >> Windows
>> >> using System Restore", then "choose a different restore point", then
>> >> "next".
>> >> It only shows the last restore point.
>> >>
>> >> I made three different restore points and it showed all three. I
>> >> rebooted
>> >> and went back and it only had the last one. I have created 20 to 30
>> >> restore
>> >> point over the past several weeks and it still will only show me the
>> >> last one.
>> >> --
>> >> Mike Rhoads

>>


Since this issue existed throughout the beta, was reported many times and MS
offers an alternative to dual booting in the form of a free option, MS
Virtual
PC,http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/virtualpc/default.mspx, I
doubt there will be a fix.

I believe Vista's System Restore file store is now integrated with Vista's
Shadow Copy but there may be other dependencies and pointers that it uses as
well. Frankly, it would be surprising to me if your cleanup utility managed
to get into Shadow Copy as I think it's protected and hidden so there may be
other things, more difficult to quantify.

Remember, there may also be pointers in the registry. The shadow copy may
be left intact but if the pointers are deleted by some cleanup utility, the
restore points would be gone. I really don't know what those would be,
you'd have to use trial and error and even then, if you managed to retain
the restore points, the restore itself might be damaged, corrupted or in
some way compromised by something the cleanup utility has done.


--
Michael Solomon
Backup is a PC user's best friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
 
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mrhoads

OK, Thanks for all your help. I have downloaded the Virtual PC software.

Is there any way to get rid of dual boot without starting over?

--
Mike Rhoads


"Michael Solomon" wrote:

>
>
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uvcblx2wHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> mrhoads
>
> It does not matter if you boot or do not boot to XP the Restore Point in
> Vista will not keep other than the last Restore Point that is shown.
>
> What is it that you mean by "Is there any way to know what should not be
> cleaned?" Can you be a bit more specific
>
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> Thanks for the head's up, Peter.
>
> --
> Michael Solomon
> Backup is a PC user's best friend
> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
 
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Michael Solomon

"mrhoads" <mrhoads43@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0B302D09-A708-41E7-9738-5BBC78AA4810@microsoft.com...
> OK, Thanks for all your help. I have downloaded the Virtual PC software.
>
> Is there any way to get rid of dual boot without starting over?
>
> --
> Mike Rhoads
>
>
> "Michael Solomon" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Solomon
>> Backup is a PC user's best friend
>> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>


You're welcome.

I believe, all you'd have to do is delete the XP partition, then, boot from
the Vista disk, use the repair option to create the new boot information and
thereafter, you can use the newly created free space for whatever you
choose. You could extend the current Vista partition into that free space
or create another partition to replace the deleted XP partition. In any
event, getting rid of the current XP partition and then using the Vista
repair option should return you to a single boot setup.

Note: you will need a lot of room on the Vista partition in order to do a
virtual setup so you'll likely need that deleted space.

--
Michael Solomon
Backup is a PC user's best friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
 
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