Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

[Adrian]

Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to
wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the W98, but
how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by other boxes in the
wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up there was no problem in
doing that, however, now being wirelessed up, I cannot solve the access
problem.

Adrian.

 

[PCR]

Adrian wrote:
| Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to
| wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the
| W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by
| other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up
| there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,
| I cannot solve the access problem.

"Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"
Did you put a check into the two boxes there?

| Adrian.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Adrian]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> Adrian wrote:
> | Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to
> | wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the
> | W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by
> | other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up
> | there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,
> | I cannot solve the access problem.
>
> "Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"
> Did you put a check into the two boxes there?
>
> | Adrian.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
Yes I had done that.
Adrian

 

[Adrian]

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
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>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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>> Adrian wrote:
>> | Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to
>> | wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the
>> | W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by
>> | other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up
>> | there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,
>> | I cannot solve the access problem.
>>
>> "Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"
>> Did you put a check into the two boxes there?
>>
>> | Adrian.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> Should things get worse after this,
>> PCR
>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>
>>
> Yes I had done that.
> Adrian
>
I am using a Belkin Range Extender / Access Point because I did not want to
change my current router + modem combination, the reason being that I also
have telephone via the ISP. I have the setup (two pcs (XP and Vista)
connected to a third (W98 box with big disk)) up and running wireless, but
there are hicks and tricks that I cannot get my finger behind with respect
to getting the W98 box communicating properly wireless (*). There does not
seem to be any consistent causality. I have reinstalled W98 and have
reinstalled the wireless network adaptor of Belkin. Once it is running it
seems to be alright. Don't know if the connection will prove to be stable
yet. Anyone got experience with Belkin and the sort of configuration I am
working with, who could shed some light on the faltering wireless
communication between the W98 box and the Belkin Range Extender Cum Access
Point?

Many thanks,
Adrian.

(*) Problem: after powering up the W98 box, a connection (W98 / Adapter) is
established, according to Belkin connection software. It indicates that the
signal is ok and that the link is ok. Nevertheless Internet is inaccessible
from the W98 box, as are the other PCs in the network (inaccessible from the
W98 box). At the same time the XP and the Vista can access the Internet
alright, but to both the W98 box isn't visible. Then I muck about with just
about everything, and bingo, problem solved. As I said above, any causality
between what I have done and the result completely eludes me.

 

[Adrian]

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
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> "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
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>>
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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>>> Adrian wrote:
>>> | Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to
>>> | wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the
>>> | W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by
>>> | other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up
>>> | there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,
>>> | I cannot solve the access problem.
>>>
>>> "Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"
>>> Did you put a check into the two boxes there?
>>>
>>> | Adrian.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>> PCR
>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>>
>>>
>> Yes I had done that.
>> Adrian
>>
> I am using a Belkin Range Extender / Access Point because I did not want
> to change my current router + modem combination, the reason being that I
> also have telephone via the ISP. I have the setup (two pcs (XP and Vista)
> connected to a third (W98 box with big disk)) up and running wireless, but
> there are hicks and tricks that I cannot get my finger behind with respect
> to getting the W98 box communicating properly wireless (*). There does not
> seem to be any consistent causality. I have reinstalled W98 and have
> reinstalled the wireless network adaptor of Belkin. Once it is running it
> seems to be alright. Don't know if the connection will prove to be stable
> yet. Anyone got experience with Belkin and the sort of configuration I am
> working with, who could shed some light on the faltering wireless
> communication between the W98 box and the Belkin Range Extender Cum Access
> Point?
>
> Many thanks,
> Adrian.
>
> (*) Problem: after powering up the W98 box, a connection (W98 / Adapter)
> is established, according to Belkin connection software. It indicates that
> the signal is ok and that the link is ok. Nevertheless Internet is
> inaccessible from the W98 box, as are the other PCs in the network
> (inaccessible from the W98 box). At the same time the XP and the Vista can
> access the Internet alright, but to both the W98 box isn't visible. Then I
> muck about with just about everything, and bingo, problem solved. As I
> said above, any causality between what I have done and the result
> completely eludes me.
If there is any consistency at all with respect to my trials to get the W98
box wirelissing properly it is after the box has been switched off and is
powered up again.

 

[Ingeborg]

When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

winipcfg /renew

from a command prompt on the W98 box?

 

[Adrian]

"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute
>
> winipcfg /renew
>
> from a command prompt on the W98 box?
>
>
Hi Ingeborg,

Thank you for your suggestion. I won't be able to test it right now, but I
will. Have a nice weekend.

Adrian.

 

[Adrian]

"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute
>
> winipcfg /renew
>
> from a command prompt on the W98 box?
>
>

"DHCP server unavailable"
I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.

 

[Adrian]

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
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> "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>>
>> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute
>>
>> winipcfg /renew
>>
>> from a command prompt on the W98 box?
>>
>>
>
> "DHCP server unavailable"
> I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.
>

I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an
alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in place?
The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free on my
XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but the
adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative software
available - either part of W98 or downloadable?

Adrian.

 

[MEB]

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
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|
| "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
| news:46f3da50$0$24401$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
| > "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
| > news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...
| >>
| >> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute
| >>
| >> winipcfg /renew
| >>
| >> from a command prompt on the W98 box?
| >>
| >>
| >
| > "DHCP server unavailable"
| > I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.
| >
|
| I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an
| alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in
place?
| The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free on
my
| XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but the
| adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative software
| available - either part of W98 or downloadable?
|
| Adrian.
|

UNLESS, you have completely diagnosed the issue and confined such
specifically to the Belkin driver, OR if the driver was NOT created for the
9X OS, likely your issues are not related directly to the drivers.

There are a number of potential issues ranging from the wrong or
conflicting IP addressing and or protocol version to browser conflicts to
firewall issues to security issues/settings to ..., well, you get the idea
I hope.

Perhaps it would help if the group first received some basic network
information.

Please post the results from:

1. In XP and VISTA:
from the run box "cmd ipconfig /all"

2. In 98:
from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and
*phone/modem* {if applicable}, TCP/IP adapter settings.

Also, it would be instrumental to know what security protocol [none, MAC,
WEP, WPA, etc.] you are using.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[PCR]

Adrian wrote:
| "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
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|> "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
|> news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...
|>>
|>> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute
|>>
|>> winipcfg /renew
|>>
|>> from a command prompt on the W98 box?
|>>
|>>
|>
|> "DHCP server unavailable"
|> I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.
|>
|
| I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an
| alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in
| place? The point is that the connection with the access point is
| problem free on my XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the
| access point per se, but the adapter (software) in combination with
| W98. Is there alternative software available - either part of W98 or
| downloadable?

Yikes! I can see you've done a lot already-- & that I never should have
entered this thread! You've gone way beyond my experience on it! It
looks like MEB has more, & I know Brian A. has experience with it too.
Good luck! I'm glad to see you've got it working intermittently at
least!

| Adrian.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Adrian]

PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> Yikes! I can see you've done a lot already-- & that I never should have
> entered this thread! You've gone way beyond my experience on it! It
> looks like MEB has more, & I know Brian A. has experience with it too.
> Good luck! I'm glad to see you've got it working intermittently at
> least!
>

Thank you for saying "Hello".
Adrian.

 

[PCR]

Adrian wrote:
| PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eSZyvMK$HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|
|> Yikes! I can see you've done a lot already-- & that I never should
|> have entered this thread! You've gone way beyond my experience on
|> it! It looks like MEB has more, & I know Brian A. has experience
|> with it too. Good luck! I'm glad to see you've got it working
|> intermittently at least!
|>
|
| Thank you for saying "Hello".

You are welcome. I'll continue to look in, but must doubt I can be of
any help.

| Adrian.

 

[Adrian]

MEB <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
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> |
> | "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
> | news:46f3da50$0$24401$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
> | > "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
> | > news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...
> | >>
> | >> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute
> | >>
> | >> winipcfg /renew
> | >>
> | >> from a command prompt on the W98 box?
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> | > "DHCP server unavailable"
> | > I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.
> | >
> |
> | I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an
> | alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in
> place?
> | The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free
on
> my
> | XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but
the
> | adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative
software
> | available - either part of W98 or downloadable?
> |
> | Adrian.
> |
>
> UNLESS, you have completely diagnosed the issue and confined such
> specifically to the Belkin driver, OR if the driver was NOT created for
the
> 9X OS, likely your issues are not related directly to the drivers.
>
> There are a number of potential issues ranging from the wrong or
> conflicting IP addressing and or protocol version to browser conflicts
to
> firewall issues to security issues/settings to ..., well, you get the
idea
> I hope.
>
> Perhaps it would help if the group first received some basic network
> information.
>
> Please post the results from:
>
> 1. In XP and VISTA:
> from the run box "cmd ipconfig /all"

********************************************
Xp and Vista are connecting to the wireless network fine.
********************************************
>
> 2. In 98:
> from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and
> *phone/modem* {if applicable}, TCP/IP adapter settings.
********************************************
It gives
1. the adapter address
2. ip address
3. subnet mask
4. defaukt gateway

I am unsure whether it is a good idea to have that information on apublic
display.

The Default Gateway is the IP address* of the router to which the Access
Point is connected.
The IP address is the same* except for the last character combination (after
the last dot).

TCP/IP Properties Tabs:
DNS Configureation: Disable DNS
Gayeway: no data is entered to the fields
WINS configuration: no data is entered to the fields
IP address: obtain IP automatically
Bindings: Client for Microsoft Networks, File and Printer Shariing for
Microsofdt Networks, Microsoft Family Logon - are ticked
Advanced: Allow binding to ATM Value = No
NetBIOS: shadowed out
********************************************
>
> Also, it would be instrumental to know what security protocol [none, MAC,
> WEP, WPA, etc.] you are using.
>
********************************************
WEP
********************************************
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
>

 

[Adrian]

Adrian <not@all.thanku> wrote in message
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>
> MEB <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
> > news:46f3ddc9$0$24433$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
> > |
> > | "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message
> > | news:46f3da50$0$24401$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
> > | > "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
> > | > news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...
> > | >>
> > | >> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute
> > | >>
> > | >> winipcfg /renew
> > | >>
> > | >> from a command prompt on the W98 box?
> > | >>
> > | >>
> > | >
> > | > "DHCP server unavailable"
> > | > I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.
> > | >
> > |
> > | I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an
> > | alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in
> > place?
> > | The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free
> on
> > my
> > | XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but
> the
> > | adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative
> software
> > | available - either part of W98 or downloadable?
> > |
> > | Adrian.
> > |
> >
> > UNLESS, you have completely diagnosed the issue and confined such
> > specifically to the Belkin driver, OR if the driver was NOT created for
> the
> > 9X OS, likely your issues are not related directly to the drivers.
> >
> > There are a number of potential issues ranging from the wrong or
> > conflicting IP addressing and or protocol version to browser conflicts
> to
> > firewall issues to security issues/settings to ..., well, you get the
> idea
> > I hope.
> >
> > Perhaps it would help if the group first received some basic network
> > information.
> >
> > Please post the results from:
> >
> > 1. In XP and VISTA:
> > from the run box "cmd ipconfig /all"
>
> ********************************************
> Xp and Vista are connecting to the wireless network fine.
> ********************************************
> >
> > 2. In 98:
> > from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and
> > *phone/modem* {if applicable}, TCP/IP adapter settings.
> ********************************************
> It gives
> 1. the adapter address
> 2. ip address
> 3. subnet mask
> 4. defaukt gateway
>
> I am unsure whether it is a good idea to have that information on apublic
> display.
>
> The Default Gateway is the IP address* of the router to which the Access
> Point is connected.
> The IP address is the same* except for the last character combination
(after
> the last dot).
>
> TCP/IP Properties Tabs:
> DNS Configureation: Disable DNS
> Gayeway: no data is entered to the fields
> WINS configuration: no data is entered to the fields
> IP address: obtain IP automatically
> Bindings: Client for Microsoft Networks, File and Printer Shariing for
> Microsofdt Networks, Microsoft Family Logon - are ticked
> Advanced: Allow binding to ATM Value = No
> NetBIOS: shadowed out
> ********************************************
> >
> > Also, it would be instrumental to know what security protocol [none,
MAC,
> > WEP, WPA, etc.] you are using.
> >
> ********************************************
> WEP
> ********************************************

RE:
from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and

What I have entered are the values if the connection is there.

 

[MEB]

I had typed a response to your postings, but as I have no personal knowledge
of your wireless *repeater* configuration [Belkin Range Extender / Access
Point], perhaps this is more helpful. You have what amounts to multiple
routers involved.

You would likely have more luck in * microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
* which would be a more appropriate discussion group.
NOTE though, they are likely to also request your network configuration for
diagnosis. When posting there, condense your postings from this group into
one informative post, rather than exposing bits and pieces as you go.

Might want to check out the second link below and see if it might help.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
________

 

[Adrian]

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You would likely have more luck in *
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
> * which would be a more appropriate discussion group.
> NOTE though, they are likely to also request your network configuration
> for
> diagnosis. When posting there, condense your postings from this group into
> one informative post, rather than exposing bits and pieces as you go.
>
> Might want to check out the second link below and see if it might help.

Hi, I think I will give up on the Win 98 + Belkin combination. I simply
cannot get it to work. I have checked out a source on the Internet which
specifies how the settings should be - I had them all correct, so it would
seem a lost battle. I will probably transfer to an XPP. I threw out the
Belkin software on my XPP as well and am using the XPP software for the
connection. I have lost faith in Belkin.

Many thanks,
Adrian.