Enough

[Manatee Memories]

Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.

I have endured my judgements (Do I want such & such a program to run?)
being questioned (In-numerable times being asked "Do I want such & such
a program to run?"). over & over again. I have seen & endured Vista
dis-allowing some Old Favorite programs running priviledges, over and
over (16-bit installers not permitted?). I have endured being, in
effect, told-off by those "brass-ring-through-the-nose" Vista
brainwashees that (using my wording) "Just give Vista a chance it'll
grow on you". Ad nauseum.

Vista HAS "grown" on me. I shall be "going back to" XP at the first
available opportunity.

 

[corbomite]

Silence like a cancer grows...

(from a Simon and Garfunkle song "sound of silence")

Now replace the word "silence" with "vista"


"Manatee Memories" <royalfeline!REMOVE!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6b6a93ldcp53lb93unudf4kh3s6tsa8ran@4ax.com...
>
> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>
> I have endured my judgements (Do I want such & such a program to run?)
> being questioned (In-numerable times being asked "Do I want such & such
> a program to run?"). over & over again. I have seen & endured Vista
> dis-allowing some Old Favorite programs running priviledges, over and
> over (16-bit installers not permitted?). I have endured being, in
> effect, told-off by those "brass-ring-through-the-nose" Vista
> brainwashees that (using my wording) "Just give Vista a chance it'll
> grow on you". Ad nauseum.
>
> Vista HAS "grown" on me. I shall be "going back to" XP at the first
> available opportunity.

 

[Swingman]

"Manatee Memories" wrote in message

> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.

I gotta say that while I'm sorry for your Vista troubles, it is hard to
reconcile remarks like this with the fact that I'm within arm's reach of a
notebook running XP, a destkop running Win 2K Pro, and half a dozen servers
with anywhere from NT4 - 2003AS and this laptop with Vista Business, which
has been much less trouble than these other OS'es were in their first
iteration.

Laptop is a Dell XPS 1210 which came with Vista Business installed about
three weeks back. Most of the problems were basically lack of familiarity on
my part, and the last couple of weeks of perusing this newsgroup has done a
lot to rectify that.

Reluctantly at first, and despite the above OS choices within reach, I've
actually come to prefer banging on keyboard of the Vista machine.

If your hardware is up to snuff, stick with it and you'll hopefully have the
same experience.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Hey, why didn't you plug your BLOG?


"corbomite" <-> wrote in message news:46951ab7@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> Silence like a cancer grows...
>
> (from a Simon and Garfunkle song "sound of silence")
>
> Now replace the word "silence" with "vista"
>
>
> "Manatee Memories" <royalfeline!REMOVE!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6b6a93ldcp53lb93unudf4kh3s6tsa8ran@4ax.com...
>>
>> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
>> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>>
>> I have endured my judgements (Do I want such & such a program to run?)
>> being questioned (In-numerable times being asked "Do I want such & such
>> a program to run?"). over & over again. I have seen & endured Vista
>> dis-allowing some Old Favorite programs running priviledges, over and
>> over (16-bit installers not permitted?). I have endured being, in
>> effect, told-off by those "brass-ring-through-the-nose" Vista
>> brainwashees that (using my wording) "Just give Vista a chance it'll
>> grow on you". Ad nauseum.
>>
>> Vista HAS "grown" on me. I shall be "going back to" XP at the first
>> available opportunity.
>
>

 

[Ian]

It is like all Windows versions a learning curve and some people just can't
or won't learn. Format at once.


"Manatee Memories" <royalfeline!REMOVE!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6b6a93ldcp53lb93unudf4kh3s6tsa8ran@4ax.com...
>
> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>
> I have endured my judgements (Do I want such & such a program to run?)
> being questioned (In-numerable times being asked "Do I want such & such
> a program to run?"). over & over again. I have seen & endured Vista
> dis-allowing some Old Favorite programs running priviledges, over and
> over (16-bit installers not permitted?). I have endured being, in
> effect, told-off by those "brass-ring-through-the-nose" Vista
> brainwashees that (using my wording) "Just give Vista a chance it'll
> grow on you". Ad nauseum.
>
> Vista HAS "grown" on me. I shall be "going back to" XP at the first
> available opportunity.
>

 

[Mr. Barky Von Schnauzer]

If you are sick of Vista asking you "Do I want such and such a program to run?" Then turn off UAC. Sounds more like you are complaining, not because Vista is bad, but because you do not want to take the time to learn how to use it to your liking. Sure there are old programs that may not run on Vista, but that is usually the case with anything new. Eventually it is something we all have to face and deal with and then we upgrade our old programs.

Barky Out.
--


Mr. Barky Von Schnauzer




"Manatee Memories" <royalfeline!REMOVE!@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6b6a93ldcp53lb93unudf4kh3s6tsa8ran@4ax.com...
>
> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>
> I have endured my judgements (Do I want such & such a program to run?)
> being questioned (In-numerable times being asked "Do I want such & such
> a program to run?"). over & over again. I have seen & endured Vista
> dis-allowing some Old Favorite programs running priviledges, over and
> over (16-bit installers not permitted?). I have endured being, in
> effect, told-off by those "brass-ring-through-the-nose" Vista
> brainwashees that (using my wording) "Just give Vista a chance it'll
> grow on you". Ad nauseum.
>
> Vista HAS "grown" on me. I shall be "going back to" XP at the first
> available opportunity.

 

[Manatee Memories]

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:20:29 +0100, "Ian" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote,
by way of <09EDBC6B-8341-4C94-8191-A92C3F3126E0@microsoft.com>, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general -->

>"Manatee Memories" <royalfeline!REMOVE!@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:6b6a93ldcp53lb93unudf4kh3s6tsa8ran@4ax.com...
>>
>> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
>> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>>
>> I have endured my judgements (Do I want such & such a program to run?)
>> being questioned (In-numerable times being asked "Do I want such & such
>> a program to run?"). over & over again. I have seen & endured Vista
>> dis-allowing some Old Favorite programs running priviledges, over and
>> over (16-bit installers not permitted?). I have endured being, in
>> effect, told-off by those "brass-ring-through-the-nose" Vista
>> brainwashees that (using my wording) "Just give Vista a chance it'll
>> grow on you". Ad nauseum.
>>
>> Vista HAS "grown" on me. I shall be "going back to" XP at the first
>> available opportunity.
>>
>
>
>It is like all Windows versions a learning curve and some people just can't
>or won't learn.

I began with MS-DOS 5.0/6.0/6.2/6.22, then to Win 3.1, 3.11 WFWG, Win95/
Win98/Win98 SE, then XP/SP-1/1a/SP-2. Afterwards, Vista.

In my opinion (of long-experience), while there was some truly major GUI
difference berween Win 3.11 and Win95, the "agony factor" switching from
3.11 to 95 was _nothing_ compared against XP SP-2 to Vista. I am not so
young now as I was in 1993 (or there-abouts), and "Toil, sweat, and
tears" (to paraphrase the late Winston Churchill) is no-longer my
proverbial cup-of-tea. Enduring the "confirmation blues" (my wording) is
not what I thought I'd be getting, when buying the new box, several
weeks ago.

> Format at once.

Darik's Boot & Nuke (v1.0.7) tells me it's got some 5h 24m to go (using
the "dodshort") format.

--

Life got you down? Want nothing than to curl up with your
[insert type of fav pet here], a glass of milk, and some
really great cookies?


http://preview.tinyurl.com/yrcz9v
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ynzgas

 

[Manatee Memories]

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:32:47 -0500, "Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote,
by way of <160F5E53-7406-4B40-85AB-1C0FB6D4720A@microsoft.com>, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general -->

>"Manatee Memories" wrote in message
>
>> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
>> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>
>I gotta say that while I'm sorry for your Vista troubles, it is hard to
>reconcile remarks like this with the fact that I'm within arm's reach of a
>notebook running XP, a destkop running Win 2K Pro, and half a dozen servers
>with anywhere from NT4 - 2003AS and this laptop with Vista Business, which
>has been much less trouble than these other OS'es were in their first
>iteration.
>
>Laptop is a Dell XPS 1210 which came with Vista Business installed about
>three weeks back. Most of the problems were basically lack of familiarity on
>my part, and the last couple of weeks of perusing this newsgroup has done a
>lot to rectify that.
>
>Reluctantly at first, and despite the above OS choices within reach, I've
>actually come to prefer banging on keyboard of the Vista machine.
>
>If your hardware is up to snuff, stick with it and you'll hopefully have the
>same experience.

Honestly, I would rather be responsible for what goes on with my
system, than be dunned at every turn by some so-called "security"
which, imo, exists for nothing more than to irritate the user.

In reasonably recent past, the only times little nasty-bits have managed
to hitch a ride here, was when I acted _stupidly_ (more a case of
naivette, actually). Double-click on files of unproved trustworthyness,
visited various & sundry websites with assorted browser & local
web-proxy (Proxomitron) prot's dropped, and so on. As noted above, I
would _much_ rather be responsible for what goes on here rather than
hand over responsibility to an OS which disagrees with me.

 

[xfile]

> and this laptop with Vista Business, which has been much less trouble
>than these other OS'es were in their first iteration.

Hi,

By no means that I am trying to say Vista is good vs. bad and I respect
everyone's own conclusion, but I found the above comparison used by many
including the company is kind of "unfair" or "misleading".

We shouldn't compared a new product with the one that first introduced years
ago, and by doing that, we ignore the fact the everything has been improving
during these years including our skills, knowledge, technologies, and so on.
If all those experiences and knowledge learned during these years have no
effect on producing a new product (be OS or anything else), what are the
purpose or returns for learning?

A new product is meant to replace an existing product at the current stage,
so a "fair" comparison should benchmark to those at the current stage, not
when they were first introduced.

I think the same logic and rule will apply to all products as well. Do we
compare a new car with our existing one or with the T-model?

Again, no offense and just share some thoughts.



"Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:160F5E53-7406-4B40-85AB-1C0FB6D4720A@microsoft.com...
> "Manatee Memories" wrote in message
>
>> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
>> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>
> I gotta say that while I'm sorry for your Vista troubles, it is hard to
> reconcile remarks like this with the fact that I'm within arm's reach of a
> notebook running XP, a destkop running Win 2K Pro, and half a dozen
> servers with anywhere from NT4 - 2003AS and this laptop with Vista
> Business, which has been much less trouble than these other OS'es were in
> their first iteration.
>
> Laptop is a Dell XPS 1210 which came with Vista Business installed about
> three weeks back. Most of the problems were basically lack of familiarity
> on my part, and the last couple of weeks of perusing this newsgroup has
> done a lot to rectify that.
>
> Reluctantly at first, and despite the above OS choices within reach, I've
> actually come to prefer banging on keyboard of the Vista machine.
>
> If your hardware is up to snuff, stick with it and you'll hopefully have
> the same experience.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 6/1/07
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>
>

 

[Not Me]

I agree with most of that.
I just wish they had not tried to emulate the (now disproven) AOL theory of
making the software less configurable & trying to protect the user from
himself. It failed miserably for AOL after seemingly working for several
years. I personally think it was more AOL's marketing than their software.
But an OS is a totally different thing than an Internet interface.
The internet has matured from the days AOL was a startup.
Why MS decided to try to cater to that (mostly defunct) crowd of total
beginners is beyond my comprehension.
There are expert users who will defend the model even now, but
geezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up!!

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:O8FdXXDxHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > and this laptop with Vista Business, which has been much less trouble
> >than these other OS'es were in their first iteration.
>
> Hi,
>
> By no means that I am trying to say Vista is good vs. bad and I respect
> everyone's own conclusion, but I found the above comparison used by many
> including the company is kind of "unfair" or "misleading".
>
> We shouldn't compared a new product with the one that first introduced
> years ago, and by doing that, we ignore the fact the everything has been
> improving during these years including our skills, knowledge,
> technologies, and so on. If all those experiences and knowledge learned
> during these years have no effect on producing a new product (be OS or
> anything else), what are the purpose or returns for learning?
>
> A new product is meant to replace an existing product at the current
> stage, so a "fair" comparison should benchmark to those at the current
> stage, not when they were first introduced.
>
> I think the same logic and rule will apply to all products as well. Do we
> compare a new car with our existing one or with the T-model?
>
> Again, no offense and just share some thoughts.
>
>
>
> "Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:160F5E53-7406-4B40-85AB-1C0FB6D4720A@microsoft.com...
>> "Manatee Memories" wrote in message
>>
>>> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
>>> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>>
>> I gotta say that while I'm sorry for your Vista troubles, it is hard to
>> reconcile remarks like this with the fact that I'm within arm's reach of
>> a notebook running XP, a destkop running Win 2K Pro, and half a dozen
>> servers with anywhere from NT4 - 2003AS and this laptop with Vista
>> Business, which has been much less trouble than these other OS'es were in
>> their first iteration.
>>
>> Laptop is a Dell XPS 1210 which came with Vista Business installed about
>> three weeks back. Most of the problems were basically lack of familiarity
>> on my part, and the last couple of weeks of perusing this newsgroup has
>> done a lot to rectify that.
>>
>> Reluctantly at first, and despite the above OS choices within reach, I've
>> actually come to prefer banging on keyboard of the Vista machine.
>>
>> If your hardware is up to snuff, stick with it and you'll hopefully have
>> the same experience.
>>
>> --
>> www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 6/1/07
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[xfile]

> Why MS decided to try to cater to that (mostly defunct) crowd of total
> beginners is beyond my comprehension.
> There are expert users who will defend the model even now, but
> geezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up!!

LOL.

My main point is that as long as the "baseline" is set correctly, everyone
can draw their own conclusions, but it's known that many benchmarks are not
intended to be done correctly, so I just carefully remind people about it.

I have my share of curiosity for why they decided to make such drastic
changes on user experience. Honestly, it contradicted to what I have
learned up to this point, but well, let's wait and see. Only time will tell




"Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
news:%23fUXpBFxHHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I agree with most of that.
> I just wish they had not tried to emulate the (now disproven) AOL theory
> of making the software less configurable & trying to protect the user from
> himself. It failed miserably for AOL after seemingly working for several
> years. I personally think it was more AOL's marketing than their software.
> But an OS is a totally different thing than an Internet interface.
> The internet has matured from the days AOL was a startup.
> Why MS decided to try to cater to that (mostly defunct) crowd of total
> beginners is beyond my comprehension.
> There are expert users who will defend the model even now, but
> geezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up!!
>
> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:O8FdXXDxHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > and this laptop with Vista Business, which has been much less trouble
>> >than these other OS'es were in their first iteration.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> By no means that I am trying to say Vista is good vs. bad and I respect
>> everyone's own conclusion, but I found the above comparison used by many
>> including the company is kind of "unfair" or "misleading".
>>
>> We shouldn't compared a new product with the one that first introduced
>> years ago, and by doing that, we ignore the fact the everything has been
>> improving during these years including our skills, knowledge,
>> technologies, and so on. If all those experiences and knowledge learned
>> during these years have no effect on producing a new product (be OS or
>> anything else), what are the purpose or returns for learning?
>>
>> A new product is meant to replace an existing product at the current
>> stage, so a "fair" comparison should benchmark to those at the current
>> stage, not when they were first introduced.
>>
>> I think the same logic and rule will apply to all products as well. Do
>> we compare a new car with our existing one or with the T-model?
>>
>> Again, no offense and just share some thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:160F5E53-7406-4B40-85AB-1C0FB6D4720A@microsoft.com...
>>> "Manatee Memories" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after
>>>> what
>>>> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>>>
>>> I gotta say that while I'm sorry for your Vista troubles, it is hard to
>>> reconcile remarks like this with the fact that I'm within arm's reach of
>>> a notebook running XP, a destkop running Win 2K Pro, and half a dozen
>>> servers with anywhere from NT4 - 2003AS and this laptop with Vista
>>> Business, which has been much less trouble than these other OS'es were
>>> in their first iteration.
>>>
>>> Laptop is a Dell XPS 1210 which came with Vista Business installed about
>>> three weeks back. Most of the problems were basically lack of
>>> familiarity on my part, and the last couple of weeks of perusing this
>>> newsgroup has done a lot to rectify that.
>>>
>>> Reluctantly at first, and despite the above OS choices within reach,
>>> I've actually come to prefer banging on keyboard of the Vista machine.
>>>
>>> If your hardware is up to snuff, stick with it and you'll hopefully have
>>> the same experience.
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.e-woodshop.net
>>> Last update: 6/1/07
>>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Hank Arnold]

Manatee Memories wrote:
> Vista may have been designed with the best of intensions, but after what
> I have seen of it, Vista should have been SCRAPPED a-borning.
>
> I have endured my judgements (Do I want such & such a program to run?)
> being questioned (In-numerable times being asked "Do I want such & such
> a program to run?"). over & over again. I have seen & endured Vista
> dis-allowing some Old Favorite programs running priviledges, over and
> over (16-bit installers not permitted?). I have endured being, in
> effect, told-off by those "brass-ring-through-the-nose" Vista
> brainwashees that (using my wording) "Just give Vista a chance it'll
> grow on you". Ad nauseum.
>
> Vista HAS "grown" on me. I shall be "going back to" XP at the first
> available opportunity.

Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.... -)

IMNSHO, anyone trying a new MS operating system in the first year (or
before the first service pack is out) is burying their head in the sand
if they expect that everything they did before will work, much less the
same way.

What I'm hearing about Vista is exactly what I heard when XP first came
out.... -)

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold

 

[Swingman]

"xfile" wrote in message...
> > and this laptop with Vista Business, which has been much less trouble
> >than these other OS'es were in their first iteration.
>
> Hi,
>
> By no means that I am trying to say Vista is good vs. bad and I respect
> everyone's own conclusion, but I found the above comparison used by many
> including the company is kind of "unfair" or "misleading".

Not at all ... it's called "perspective". It comes with age based wisdom.
Stick around long enough and you'll understand.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

 

[Swingman]

"Hank Arnold" wrote in message

> What I'm hearing about Vista is exactly what I heard when XP first came
> out.... -)

Vista may well be fixing to byte me in the butt, but what I'm most
definitely noticing is that the longer I run Vista, the more stable it has
become ... it is almost as if it has learned how to act?

But that may also be due to the fact that I removed every vestige/trace of
anything "Roxio" that was on this machine.

... I used to love Adaptec's stuff, until those bastids entered the
picture! They're right up there with Intuit, Imsi and AutoDesk as a pox on
most any machine.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

 

[MarkyMarc43]

Hmmm.

Anyone remember the following?

-This program was designed to run in Windows 2.0-

It's been quite a number of years since then, and I still prefer
Windows. And Vista, it seems to me, isn't all that complicated.

I'm running the 64bit Home Premium edition and it has drivers for ALL
my hardware. Any small issues I had I was able to solve by READING the
posts in here, not by complaining incessantly to anyone who would
listen.


--
MarkyMarc43

 

[xfile]

LOL. OK

But as far as I know, knowledge and wisdom have nothing to do with age


"Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:8F88D6CA-99E7-4B01-9D03-C584C2F247CA@microsoft.com...
> "xfile" wrote in message...
>> > and this laptop with Vista Business, which has been much less trouble
>> >than these other OS'es were in their first iteration.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> By no means that I am trying to say Vista is good vs. bad and I respect
>> everyone's own conclusion, but I found the above comparison used by many
>> including the company is kind of "unfair" or "misleading".
>
> Not at all ... it's called "perspective". It comes with age based wisdom.
> Stick around long enough and you'll understand.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 6/1/07
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

 

[Swingman]

"xfile" wrote in message

> LOL. OK
>
> But as far as I know, knowledge and wisdom have nothing to do with age

LOL ... yeah? When's the last time you heard the phrase "wise _young_ man"?


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

 

[Frank]

xfile wrote:

> LOL. OK
>
> But as far as I know, knowledge and wisdom have nothing to do with age
>
>
> "Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:8F88D6CA-99E7-4B01-9D03-C584C2F247CA@microsoft.com...
>
>>"xfile" wrote in message...
>>
>>>> and this laptop with Vista Business, which has been much less trouble
>>>>than these other OS'es were in their first iteration.
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>By no means that I am trying to say Vista is good vs. bad and I respect
>>>everyone's own conclusion, but I found the above comparison used by many
>>>including the company is kind of "unfair" or "misleading".
>>
>>Not at all ... it's called "perspective". It comes with age based wisdom.
>>Stick around long enough and you'll understand.
>>
>>--
>>www.e-woodshop.net
>>Last update: 6/1/07
>>KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>
>
Never confuse education with intelligence.
Frank

 

[xfile]

I really wish to believe it as I am getting older everyday

But I know, if I don't do my part, I'll never get it and that's just for the
knwoledge part.

For wisdom, it is reserved for a few true wise persons, and it's like a star
in the sky and I'm just a humble person. In other words, I don't even think
about it.

So again, I don't think knowledge and wisdom have anything to do age,
although I would like to think so but I learned how to accept the fact


"Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:348F72C4-3812-425C-8AB1-69DD770CC4C7@microsoft.com...
>
> "xfile" wrote in message
>
>> LOL. OK
>>
>> But as far as I know, knowledge and wisdom have nothing to do with age
>
> LOL ... yeah? When's the last time you heard the phrase "wise _young_
> man"?
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 6/1/07
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>

 

[xfile]

>Never confuse education with intelligence.

Never.

I don't know about your environment, but in mine, education or degree or
diploma is nothing but a piece of paper.



"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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> xfile wrote:
>
>> LOL. OK
>>
>> But as far as I know, knowledge and wisdom have nothing to do with age
>>
>>
>> "Swingman" <kac@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:8F88D6CA-99E7-4B01-9D03-C584C2F247CA@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>"xfile" wrote in message...
>>>
>>>>> and this laptop with Vista Business, which has been much less trouble
>>>>>than these other OS'es were in their first iteration.
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>By no means that I am trying to say Vista is good vs. bad and I respect
>>>>everyone's own conclusion, but I found the above comparison used by many
>>>>including the company is kind of "unfair" or "misleading".
>>>
>>>Not at all ... it's called "perspective". It comes with age based wisdom.
>>>Stick around long enough and you'll understand.
>>>
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>>>KarlC@ (the obvious)
>>
>>
>>
> Never confuse education with intelligence.
> Frank