Help: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

[Searcher7]

I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
anyhting associated with Microsoft.

My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
them.

I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
getting my system to find and install it.

I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.

I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
short.

Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

 

[glee]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

You could remove the hard drive from the computer, install it as a slave in another
computer, and copy off the files you want to save.

Alternately, if you have a network card (Ethernet adapter) in the machine, you could
network it with another computer and copy your files.

Re: the SanDisk Cruzer, you have the "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the system
tray, but no drive letter for it in My Computer? When you single-click the icon in
the tray, do you see the box to click to remove the hardware? Does it show a drive
letter for the Cruzer?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Searcher7" <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
news:1192987707.297189.195950@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
> anyhting associated with Microsoft.
>
> My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
> secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
> transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
> them.
>
> I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
> pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
> longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
> Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
> getting my system to find and install it.
>
> I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
> why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
> system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.
>
> I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
> short.
>
> Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.
>

 

[Bob]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

On Oct 21, 9:19 pm, "glee" <gle...@spamindspring.com> wrote:
> You could remove the hard drive from the computer, install it as a slave in another
> computer, and copy off the files you want to save.
>
> Alternately, if you have a network card (Ethernet adapter) in the machine, you could
> network it with another computer and copy your files.
>
> Re: the SanDisk Cruzer, you have the "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the system
> tray, but no drive letter for it in My Computer? When you single-click the icon in
> the tray, do you see the box to click to remove the hardware? Does it show a drive
> letter for the Cruzer?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+http://dts-l.org/http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Searcher7" <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192987707.297189.195950@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
> > anyhting associated with Microsoft.
>
> > My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
> > secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
> > transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
> > them.
>
> > I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
> > pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
> > longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
> > Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
> > getting my system to find and install it.
>
> > I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
> > why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
> > system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.
>
> > I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
> > short.
>
> > Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > Darren Harris
> > Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Oct 21, 10:28 am, Searcher7 <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote:
> I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
> anyhting associated with Microsoft.
>
> My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
> secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
> transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
> them.
>
> I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
> pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
> longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
> Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
> getting my system to find and install it.
>
> I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
> why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
> system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.
>
> I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
> short.
>
> Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.

Darren,
If you get to the Internet then you most likely have a cable
connection, a dsl connection or a dial-up voice modem connection. With
a cable connection and an older PC you have will have Ethernet. Newer
ones (even if they use that old plow horse winME) may have USB,
Firewire and possibly someothers in addition to ethernet. With DSL
you most likely connect to your DSL modem thru the PCs ethernet.

If your desktop screen hasn't been mangled (or severely tweaked) you
probably see a "My Computer" icon (resembles a monitor sitting on top
of a desktop PC). Right click it, select "Properties" from the pop-up
menu. From the System Properties screen (left) click the DeviceManager
tab. That tab shows the major peripheral hardware components in your
PC as small icons lined up in a column/ At the top of this column is
another icon representing your PC. Coming out the bottom of this icon
is a line which you can think of as your system buss - the line that
carries all information from you to and from your peripherals.

Now think of that line as the back of a comb which has many tines
running to the right. Notice where each tine connects to the back of
the comb, the screen initially shows a plus. My screen shows each tine
running horizontal from the plus sign at the left end, for about an
eighth of an inch, to the right end where it enters another icon. The
latter icon represents a peripheral. To the right of this icon is a
brief text label telling you what kind or category of peripheral the
icon represents: CD-ROM, Disk Drives, Display adapters, Mouse, etc.
The one for Network adapter is what you are interested in for getting
to the bottom of your problem. Maybe you know all this already and
I've wasted your time. I hope not.
Anyway, (left) click on the plus sign closest to the Network Adapter
icon and report the text (label) next to each of the icons that appear
under that Network adapter icon AND connect directly to it (no other
icons between those that just appeared and the upper Network adapter
icon). One or more of these will represent ethernet adapters and
usually the word ethernet will appear in the label to their right.
If you are familiar with the steps I've mentioned then go ahead and
right click any that have the word ethernet in their label. From the
small pop-up menu which appears, select properties and you get a
marvelous little status report about that peripheral. It is another
tabbed report and the tab we are interested in is invariably the
first, the General tab. The golden nugget there, if you find it that
is, will appear under Device Status, at about the middle of this
property page. If under Device Status you find the message "This
device is working properly" you are in good shape. What ever it says,
golden nugget or silver bullet, report it to this group and someone
will be able to tell you what to do next.

Bob

 

[Searcher7]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

On Oct 22, 12:19 am, "glee" <gle...@spamindspring.com> wrote:
> You could remove the hard drive from the computer, install it as a slave in another
> computer, and copy off the files you want to save.
>
> Alternately, if you have a network card (Ethernet adapter) in the machine, you could
> network it with another computer and copy your files.
>
> Re: the SanDisk Cruzer, you have the "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the system
> tray, but no drive letter for it in My Computer? When you single-click the icon in
> the tray, do you see the box to click to remove the hardware? Does it show a drive
> letter for the Cruzer?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+http://dts-l.org/http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Searcher7" <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192987707.297189.195950@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
> > anyhting associated with Microsoft.
>
> > My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
> > secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
> > transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
> > them.
>
> > I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
> > pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
> > longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
> > Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
> > getting my system to find and install it.
>
> > I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
> > why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
> > system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.
>
> > I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
> > short.
>
> > Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > Darren Harris
> > Staten Island, New York.


There is no drive letter.

I have several PCs with SCSI drives, but wouldn't know how to transfer
my files to them from this non-SCSI PC.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

 

[Searcher7]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

On Oct 22, 4:37 pm, Bob <SierraBrot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 9:19 pm, "glee" <gle...@spamindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You could remove the hard drive from the computer, install it as a slave in another
> > computer, and copy off the files you want to save.
>
> > Alternately, if you have a network card (Ethernet adapter) in the machine, you could
> > network it with another computer and copy your files.
>
> > Re: the SanDisk Cruzer, you have the "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the system
> > tray, but no drive letter for it in My Computer? When you single-click the icon in
> > the tray, do you see the box to click to remove the hardware? Does it show a drive
> > letter for the Cruzer?
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+http://dts-l.org/http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> > "Searcher7" <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1192987707.297189.195950@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
> > > anyhting associated with Microsoft.
>
> > > My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
> > > secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
> > > transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
> > > them.
>
> > > I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
> > > pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
> > > longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
> > > Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
> > > getting my system to find and install it.
>
> > > I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
> > > why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
> > > system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.
>
> > > I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
> > > short.
>
> > > Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > > Darren Harris
> > > Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> On Oct 21, 10:28 am, Searcher7 <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
> > anyhting associated with Microsoft.
>
> > My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
> > secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
> > transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
> > them.
>
> > I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
> > pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
> > longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
> > Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
> > getting my system to find and install it.
>
> > I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
> > why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
> > system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.
>
> > I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
> > short.
>
> > Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > Darren Harris
> > Staten Island, New York.
>
> Darren,
> If you get to the Internet then you most likely have a cable
> connection, a dsl connection or a dial-up voice modem connection. With
> a cable connection and an older PC you have will have Ethernet. Newer
> ones (even if they use that old plow horse winME) may have USB,
> Firewire and possibly someothers in addition to ethernet. With DSL
> you most likely connect to your DSL modem thru the PCs ethernet.
>
> If your desktop screen hasn't been mangled (or severely tweaked) you
> probably see a "My Computer" icon (resembles a monitor sitting on top
> of a desktop PC). Right click it, select "Properties" from the pop-up
> menu. From the System Properties screen (left) click the DeviceManager
> tab. That tab shows the major peripheral hardware components in your
> PC as small icons lined up in a column/ At the top of this column is
> another icon representing your PC. Coming out the bottom of this icon
> is a line which you can think of as your system buss - the line that
> carries all information from you to and from your peripherals.
>
> Now think of that line as the back of a comb which has many tines
> running to the right. Notice where each tine connects to the back of
> the comb, the screen initially shows a plus. My screen shows each tine
> running horizontal from the plus sign at the left end, for about an
> eighth of an inch, to the right end where it enters another icon. The
> latter icon represents a peripheral. To the right of this icon is a
> brief text label telling you what kind or category of peripheral the
> icon represents: CD-ROM, Disk Drives, Display adapters, Mouse, etc.
> The one for Network adapter is what you are interested in for getting
> to the bottom of your problem. Maybe you know all this already and
> I've wasted your time. I hope not.
> Anyway, (left) click on the plus sign closest to the Network Adapter
> icon and report the text (label) next to each of the icons that appear
> under that Network adapter icon AND connect directly to it (no other
> icons between those that just appeared and the upper Network adapter
> icon). One or more of these will represent ethernet adapters and
> usually the word ethernet will appear in the label to their right.
> If you are familiar with the steps I've mentioned then go ahead and
> right click any that have the word ethernet in their label. From the
> small pop-up menu which appears, select properties and you get a
> marvelous little status report about that peripheral. It is another
> tabbed report and the tab we are interested in is invariably the
> first, the General tab. The golden nugget there, if you find it that
> is, will appear under Device Status, at about the middle of this
> property page. If under Device Status you find the message "This
> device is working properly" you are in good shape. What ever it says,
> golden nugget or silver bullet, report it to this group and someone
> will be able to tell you what to do next.
>
> Bob


I hope you didn't spend a lot of time writing that long explaination.
It wasn't necessary.

Nevertheless, the first on the listed is "Compaq NC2131 Fast Ethernet
NIC". And I get "This Deveice Is Working Properly".

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

 

[glee]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

"Searcher7" <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
news:1193109198.152906.138780@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 22, 12:19 am, "glee" <gle...@spamindspring.com> wrote:
>> You could remove the hard drive from the computer, install it as a slave in
>> another
>> computer, and copy off the files you want to save.
>>
>> Alternately, if you have a network card (Ethernet adapter) in the machine, you
>> could
>> network it with another computer and copy your files.
>>
>> Re: the SanDisk Cruzer, you have the "Safely Remove Hardware" icon in the system
>> tray, but no drive letter for it in My Computer? When you single-click the icon
>> in
>> the tray, do you see the box to click to remove the hardware? Does it show a
>> drive
>> letter for the Cruzer?
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+http://dts-l.org/http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>> "Searcher7" <Search...@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192987707.297189.195950@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >I probably have the worst luck of anyone in history when it comes to
>> > anyhting associated with Microsoft.
>>
>> > My first two computers when down taking everything with them. My
>> > secondary harddrives, my Jazz drives, my Zip drives, my other apps for
>> > transferring data between systems have all failed me when I needed
>> > them.
>>
>> > I am now on my third internet pc and the warning signs are there. The
>> > pc is grossly outdated and I need another. Since my Zip drive no
>> > longer works with this pc either, I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk
>> > Cruzer (since no other option is working), and I'm having difficulties
>> > getting my system to find and install it.
>>
>> > I do not have "Add New Hardware" in my control panel and do not know
>> > why. There is an icon on the taskbar, but no other reference on my
>> > system to the drive that is plugged into my USB port.
>>
>> > I'm experiencing a massive number of pc problems, so time is running
>> > short.
>>
>> > Any ideas on what to do next would be appreciated.
>>
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> > Darren Harris
>> > Staten Island, New York.
>
>
> There is no drive letter.
>
> I have several PCs with SCSI drives, but wouldn't know how to transfer
> my files to them from this non-SCSI PC.

Does the computer with the SCSI drive have an IDE controller on the motherboard,
where you could connect an IDE data cable for the hard drive?

Do you not have network adapters in both computers, to network them?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

[Greegor]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

Cross posted to
microsoft.public.windowsme.general
alt.windows-me


Darren Harris (Searcher7) on Staten Island NY wrote
> I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk Cruzer
> (since no other option is working), and I'm having
> difficulties getting my system to find and install it.

What made you think that Sandisk Cruzer would work with WinME?

You have three old systems and you want to do WHAT exactly?

You want to get files off these, but to put WHERE?

What is the fastest processor of the three?
Does that machine have an SCSI controller and drive on it?

Generally even old mainboards have IDE controllers
built in.

You really should state clearly

1. Where do you want to move the files to?
2. Is there one machine you want to keep as working?
3. You gave specs on the 350MHz which you
apparently intend to get rid of. What are the
specs on the other two, particularly the one you
want to make your new TARGET or MAIN machine?
4. Why is that TARGET machine not working?
(You had us focusing on a machine you intend to junk)

5. How big are the SCSI drives?
(If they're small, they may NOT be worth bothering with)

6. Is the 2nd best machine worth keeping? How fast?

With nothing but these junk computers you're not paying
$50 a month for high speed internet are you?

Have you been planning to buy or scrounge
a newer/faster machine?

 

[glee]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

"Greegor" <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193169026.341294.324790@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Cross posted to
> microsoft.public.windowsme.general
> alt.windows-me
>
>
> Darren Harris (Searcher7) on Staten Island NY wrote
>> I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk Cruzer
>> (since no other option is working), and I'm having
>> difficulties getting my system to find and install it.
>
> What made you think that Sandisk Cruzer would work with WinME?
> snip

What makes you think it would not?
They work just fine on ME here, and also on Win98SE with a generic mass storage
driver installed.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

[Greegor]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

> > Darren Harris (Searcher7) on Staten Island NY wrote
> >> I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk Cruzer
> >> (since no other option is working), and I'm having
> >> difficulties getting my system to find and install it.

G > What made you think that Sandisk Cruzer would work with WinME?

glee wrote
> What makes you think it would not?
> They work just fine on ME here, and also on Win98SE
> with a generic mass storage driver installed.

Is there documentation of this somewhere
that would help Darren to get his to work?

I'd like to see it as well.

Doesn't Sandisk say NO?

 

[glee]

Re: Getting Files Off My WindowsMe PC

"Greegor" <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193683003.225738.85380@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>> > Darren Harris (Searcher7) on Staten Island NY wrote
>> >> I just picked up a 4.0G Sandisk Cruzer
>> >> (since no other option is working), and I'm having
>> >> difficulties getting my system to find and install it.
>
> G > What made you think that Sandisk Cruzer would work with WinME?
>
> glee wrote
>> What makes you think it would not?
>> They work just fine on ME here, and also on Win98SE
>> with a generic mass storage driver installed.
>
> Is there documentation of this somewhere
> that would help Darren to get his to work?
>
> I'd like to see it as well.

> Doesn't Sandisk say NO?

No, they don't.

Windows ME supports USB flash drives (memory sticks) such as the SanDisk Cruzer,
without the need for any additional drivers. They do supply drivers for Win98SE,
but no added drivers are needed for WinME support.
http://www.sandisk.com/driverdownload/driverList.asp

from http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1249
"Q) Will my Titanium work on Windows 98 1st ED?
A) No, the Titanium will only work on Windows 98 2nd ED, ME, 2000, XP and Mac OS 9.1
and above."

from http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/sandisk-cruzer.html
"The Cruzer driver package can be used for either the SanDisk Cruzer Mini or SanDisk
Cruzer Micro. It is only needed for Windows 98. Later versions of Windows such as
Me, 2000 and XP already include the driver. If you are having trouble using the
driver on these later systems, then there is likely to be an error or conflict in
Windows."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm