PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

[Brusso]

I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to
install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at
all?

Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool

What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add
spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?

Firefox

Firefox Extensions

Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive

CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

Power Defragmenter GUI

Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)

Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls
itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't
belong on the desktop)

--
Thank you and have a great day!!!

BRUSSO!!!

 

[glee]

Replies inline....
"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:21E2D4E8-CF99-46DD-91ED-43ABA5D09561@microsoft.com...
>I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to
> install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at
> all?
>
> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool

That only installs on and works with Windows XP, Windows 2000, and Windows Server
2003.


> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add
> spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?

Ones that I know work well with Win98 are Kerio v.2.1.5:
http://download.oldversion.com/keriopf215.exe

and Tiny Personal Firewall 2.1.5a:
http://download.oldversion.com/tpfirewall2015a.exe

You might also try one of the older versions of Zone Alarm:
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=zalarm

As I'm not a ZA fan, I'm not sure which version works best with Win98, but it has to
be earlier than v.6.5.

ZoneAlarm stopped support of Windows 98/98SE/Me with the introduction of version 6.5

"Note about pre-6.5 products:
Pre-6.5 products will continue to run on the Windows 98/98SE/Me operating system.
However, there are a few new and advanced protection features in ZoneAlarm products
that will not run due to technical limitations of this operating system."


> Firefox

Works fine here and at work with Win98SE. The issue to contend with is that on
older systems (those that often are still running Win98/98SE), the processor may be
slower and the amount of installed memory (RAM) may be low for Firefox's needs.
What this will cause mostly is somewhat slow loading of Firefox when you first open
it.....like, click the Firefox shortcut, hand-roll a cigarette, and it will be open
when you're done. -)

There are a couple of ways around that though. One is, if you plan to use Firefox
extensively, to load it when Windows starts and leave it open for your Windows
session. I find that Firefox still creates some issues with CPU usage if left open
and unused for long periods, only in Win9x, so I prefer to use the Firefox Preloader
on older systems, which is the second method I refer to:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ffpreloader/

You don't need it if your system is speedy enough.....what processor and how much
RAM is installed?


> Firefox Extensions

You should not have any more trouble with them that folks may have in another
operating system. Read the details of each one before installijg to be sure it does
not state a particular OS as a system requirement, and always downlaod extensions
from a trusted source, usually the offical Mozilla Add-ons pages.


> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive

I suggest setting the swap file partition as the first partition on the second
drive.

Go here and scroll down to the heading "Dedicated Swap File Partition" for a good
read on that:
http://aumha.org/a/parts.htm

Also have a read here:
http://aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.htm


> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)

It is supposed to work in Win98. I do *not* recommend using all of its features.
Read carefully before you enable something, lest you remove something you wanted to
keep. I do NOT recommend using the Registry cleaner module of this or any other
utility.


> Power Defragmenter GUI
>
> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)

I don't use them, but this page suggests they are not for use in Win9x:
http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=722

"System Requirements: WinNT / Win2K / WinXP"

Perhaps someone who uses them can verify or refute.


> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls
> itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't
> belong on the desktop)

I know nothing about this app, but can't imagine why anyone would need, or want, it.

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

[Brusso]

Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as
well and if there will be any problems running it at all?
--
Thank you and have a great day!!!

BRUSSO!!!


"Brusso" wrote:

> I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to
> install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at
> all?
>
> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool
>
> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add
> spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?
>
> Firefox
>
> Firefox Extensions
>
> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive
>
> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)
>
> Power Defragmenter GUI
>
> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)
>
> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls
> itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't
> belong on the desktop)
>
> --
> Thank you and have a great day!!!
>
> BRUSSO!!!

 

[MEB]

"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...
| Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as
| well and if there will be any problems running it at all?
| --
| Thank you and have a great day!!!
|
| BRUSSO!!!

Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions are
or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other anomilies...
myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG. Either
will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of
protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create recovery
files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues
related to AVAST!.

 

[glee]

As MEB mentioned, there are some "cosmetic" issues with the release of Avast 4.7,
that causes the icons to disappear on the Start Menu and in Windows Explorer and
folder windows, after selecting folders to scan in the Avast A-V window. The system
must be rebooted to get the icons back.

See the recent thread by PCR on the issue, in this group....Subject: "Avast! loses
program icons!", posted June 29.

You will also find some info on this in the Avast support forums:
http://forum.avast.com/

Search the forums and you will find some posts like this:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=23914.0
although the Avast evangelists on the forums have not provided a lot of help with
this issue.

I have used Avast on Win98SE for several years, and think it one of the best free
anti-virus apps. This new display issue does not seem to hurt anything, but it is
disconcerting and annoying, at best.

Other free anti-virus apps that work in Win98 include Grisoft's AVG:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/us/frt/0

ActiveVirus Shield (powered by Kaspersky) may work also...I have not tried it:
www.activevirusshield.com
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...
> Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as
> well and if there will be any problems running it at all?
> --
> Thank you and have a great day!!!
>
> BRUSSO!!!
>
>
> "Brusso" wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are OK to
>> install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any problems at
>> all?
>>
>> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool
>>
>> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that won't add
>> spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to your system)?
>>
>> Firefox
>>
>> Firefox Extensions
>>
>> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive
>>
>> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)
>>
>> Power Defragmenter GUI
>>
>> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)
>>
>> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that calls
>> itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there that don't
>> belong on the desktop)
>>
>> --
>> Thank you and have a great day!!!
>>
>> BRUSSO!!!

 

[PCR]

Brusso wrote:
| Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows
| 98 as well and if there will be any problems running it at all?

Avast! Home Edition v.4.7 has a lot of good to it & some bad. Here is
the bad I've discovered so far...

(a) Certain icons can get lost (the little ones left of folder & file
names) or changed to the "flying windows" icon (like in the Control
Panel) after avast! displays icons in certain screens (Folder Selection
& Browse screens) & the interface is then closed. (You could leave the
interface open & not mess the icons, looks like.) Everything still works
in/out of avast!, but certain screens will look WEIRD. Or, you could
avoid those avast! screens that display a lot of icons. A reboot is the
only thing that restores the icons once lost. It is the ShellIconCache
that is getting mussed.

(b) Avast!'s scan reports are lacking certain information. They don't
say what folders/files were selected to be scanned or the scan
settings...

.......Quote a report............
*
* avast! Report
* This file is generated automatically
*
* Task 'Simple user interface' used
* Started on Sunday, June 24, 2007 01:22:13 PM
* VPS: 000751-4, 06/23/2007
*

Infected files: 0
Total files: 10660
Total folders: 787
Total size: 1.0 GB
.......EOQ............................

In that one, I think I scanned C:\, Thorough, & not its archives.

(c) When choosing to include archives, I believe avast! does open & scan
all .zip files, but it doesn't get into every extractable .exe file--
even some that WinZip CAN get into, like the MS *user8.exe's. On the
plus side, avast! does get into some .exe's that WinZip will not. Also,
it gets into .chm files-- & WinZip will not!

(d) The menu items that show scan results are apparently only available
directly after doing a scan. After that, you have to open the reports in
Explorer to read them.

Other than that, I think avast! is doing well. There IS a lot to like!

| --
| Thank you and have a great day!!!
|
| BRUSSO!!!
|
|
| "Brusso" wrote:
|
|> I was just wondering if you can please tell me if these programs are
|> OK to install and run on Windows 98 and will they work or cause any
|> problems at all?
|>
|> Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool
|>
|> What type of Firewall for Windows 98 (preferably a free one that
|> won't add spyware, adware, or other crap without you knowing it to
|> your system)?
|>
|> Firefox
|>
|> Firefox Extensions
|>
|> Set Your Virtual Memory On A 2nd Hard Drive
|>
|> CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)
|>
|> Power Defragmenter GUI
|>
|> Contig (Works along with the Power Defragmenter GUI)
|>
|> Desktop Cleaner (a zip file that puts a folder on your desktop that
|> calls itself "Tidy" and puts all unnessary icons and files in there
|> that don't belong on the desktop)
|>
|> --
|> Thank you and have a great day!!!
|>
|> BRUSSO!!!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Brusso]

What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?
--
Thank you and have a great day!!!

BRUSSO!!!


"MEB" wrote:

>
> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...
> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98 as
> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?
> | --
> | Thank you and have a great day!!!
> |
> | BRUSSO!!!
>
> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions are
> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other anomilies...
> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG. Either
> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of
> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create recovery
> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues
> related to AVAST!.
>
>
>
>

 

[paper]

Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

PCR... and all Avast! curios.

I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience as
it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of suppositions.

In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons were
changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.
When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,
because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by
whatever is causing it.)
The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....
1)firefox browser icon
2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.
3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to
my computer. )

As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

The text files show just fine. I imagine anyone else who has had their
icons
changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still function.
(I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter what icon was
being offered by the offending problem-causer.)

Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in
someone here figuring out what is going on.

(btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast will drop
in here and find that it really has become an issue and that their
reputation
may be at stake.)

Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2 years, so
why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??
Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3 months,
just a thought?
The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Google is your friend...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVG

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:34DBBD21-CD1C-467C-86E2-4B31205EC5BD@microsoft.com...
> What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?
> --
> Thank you and have a great day!!!
>
> BRUSSO!!!
>
>
> "MEB" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...
>> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98
>> as
>> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?
>> | --
>> | Thank you and have a great day!!!
>> |
>> | BRUSSO!!!
>>
>> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions
>> are
>> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other
>> anomilies...
>> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG.
>> Either
>> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of
>> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create
>> recovery
>> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues
>> related to AVAST!.
>>
>>
>>
>>

 

[MEB]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

"paper" <page@paper.com> wrote in message
news:uXYQu3HyHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| PCR... and all Avast! curios.
|
| I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience as
| it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of suppositions.
|
| In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons were
| changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.
| When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,
| because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by
| whatever is causing it.)
| The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....
| 1)firefox browser icon
| 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.
| 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to
| my computer. )
|
| As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.
|
| The text files show just fine. I imagine anyone else who has had their
| icons
| changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still function.
| (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter what icon was
| being offered by the offending problem-causer.)
|
| Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in
| someone here figuring out what is going on.
|
| (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast will
drop
| in here and find that it really has become an issue and that their
| reputation
| may be at stake.)
|
| Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2 years,
so
| why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??
| Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3 months,
| just a thought?
| The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.
|
|

Along these lines,, has anyone tried adjusting the max icon cache size in
the registry or the other icon fixes, or did I miss that in those
discussions?

 

[PCR]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

MEB wrote:
| "paper" <page@paper.com> wrote in message
| news:uXYQu3HyHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|| PCR... and all Avast! curios.
||
|| I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience
|| as it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of
|| suppositions.
||
|| In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my
|| icons were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT
|| files.
|| When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the
|| computer, because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently
|| assigned. (by whatever is causing it.)
|| The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....
|| 1)firefox browser icon
|| 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.
|| 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to
|| my computer. )
||
|| As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.
||
|| The text files show just fine. I imagine anyone else who has had
|| their icons
|| changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still
|| function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter
|| what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)
||
|| Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in
|| someone here figuring out what is going on.
||
|| (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast
|| will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and
|| that their reputation
|| may be at stake.)
||
|| Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2
|| years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??
|| Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3
|| months, just a thought?
|| The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.
||
||
|
| Along these lines,, has anyone tried adjusting the max icon cache
| size in the registry or the other icon fixes, or did I miss that in
| those discussions?

I think paper's problem is a different one. I see nothing special
happening to .txt icons. Also, nothing happens to Desktop, QuickLauch,
Taskbar, OR Tray icons, that I have seen.

It is NO CURE to increase the size of the ShellIconCache to 8192, both
glee & I have discovered. It is NO CURE to play with avast! settings,
either-- such as disabling skins. Those who think so probably did not
shut the main avast! interface after triggering the problem (by for
instance clicking the Folder Selection button)-- the icons won't
disappear until they do! Finally, it is NO CURE to exclude
"C:\Windows\ShellIconCache" from Avast!'s virus checking consideration.

Once the main avast! interface... "C:\Program Files\Alwil
Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe"... is closed the ShellIconCache is
wrecked-- if the Folder Selection button had been pressed. So, even if
you wait until shut down before closing it, the cache needs to be
regenerated at the next boot. Therefore, the icons will draw a tad more
slowly at that boot, & it takes a 2nd boot to actually recreate the
ShellIconCache file itself. I guess that's no big deal-- but I do wish
avast! would actually fix it. I wonder whether the problem exists in the
Professional Edition too, or only in the Home Edition.

 

[PCR]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

paper wrote:
| PCR... and all Avast! curios.
|
| I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience
| as
| it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of
| suppositions.
|
| In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons
| were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.
| When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,
| because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by
| whatever is causing it.)
| The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....
| 1)firefox browser icon
| 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.
| 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to
| my computer. )
|
| As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.

That's a common denominator, but I think your problem is a different
one-- if only .txt files are concerned. Also, I haven't noticed a change
to Desktop, QuickLauch, Taskbar, OR Tray icons. Also the 1st layer of
START menu icons are all good. After the 1st layer, such as in the
Programs sub menu, the icons are gone-- but folder & file names are
STILL there. It is the same in Explorer, both in the right & left panes.
Also, all file selection requestors will be like that. The icons in
Control Panel ALL are present-- BUT have changed to the "flying windows"
icon. I'm sure there are additional screen that are mussed.

To get that...

(a) R-Clk Avast! in the tray, & select "Start avast! Antivirus".
That is... "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe"
(b) Close the little help window after the memory scan.
(c) Click the "Folder Selection" button, & cancel it's requestor.
(d) Close Avast!.

After you have done BOTH (c) & (d)-- the icons will be MUSSED, until a
reboot is done!

| The text files show just fine.

Even with the problem I've described, all does work fine, both in & out
of avast!, it seems.

| I imagine anyone else who has had
| their icons
| changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still
| function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter
| what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)
|
| Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in
| someone here figuring out what is going on.
|
| (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast
| will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and
| that their reputation
| may be at stake.)

At least for this while they are sticking with Win98 when others have
abandoned us. But, yea, I'd like to see it fixed. In the meantime,
there's no pressing need to use the Folder Selection button-- just R-Clk
drives & folders in Explorer to do specific ones one at a time. Only if
you need to do a SET of specific folders all at once would you need that
button. If you want to scan EVERY drive & folder, there is the Local
Disks button for that, & it doesn't lose icons.

| Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2
| years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??

I think you are describing a different problem. Maybe start a new thread
on it.

| Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3
| months, just a thought?

Do you have avast! Home Edition v.4.7? That's the one!

| The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.

Nothing precisely like what you describe is happening to me.

 

[Brusso]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

When you say "flying windows icon", could you please explain what you mean by
that!
--
Thank you and have a great day!!!

BRUSSO!!!


"PCR" wrote:

> paper wrote:
> | PCR... and all Avast! curios.
> |
> | I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my experience
> | as
> | it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of
> | suppositions.
> |
> | In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my icons
> | were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was .TXT files.
> | When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go on the computer,
> | because every single .TXT icon will be the one currently assigned. (by
> | whatever is causing it.)
> | The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....
> | 1)firefox browser icon
> | 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.
> | 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to
> | my computer. )
> |
> | As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.
>
> That's a common denominator, but I think your problem is a different
> one-- if only .txt files are concerned. Also, I haven't noticed a change
> to Desktop, QuickLauch, Taskbar, OR Tray icons. Also the 1st layer of
> START menu icons are all good. After the 1st layer, such as in the
> Programs sub menu, the icons are gone-- but folder & file names are
> STILL there. It is the same in Explorer, both in the right & left panes.
> Also, all file selection requestors will be like that. The icons in
> Control Panel ALL are present-- BUT have changed to the "flying windows"
> icon. I'm sure there are additional screen that are mussed.
>
> To get that...
>
> (a) R-Clk Avast! in the tray, & select "Start avast! Antivirus".
> That is... "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe"
> (b) Close the little help window after the memory scan.
> (c) Click the "Folder Selection" button, & cancel it's requestor.
> (d) Close Avast!.
>
> After you have done BOTH (c) & (d)-- the icons will be MUSSED, until a
> reboot is done!
>
> | The text files show just fine.
>
> Even with the problem I've described, all does work fine, both in & out
> of avast!, it seems.
>
> | I imagine anyone else who has had
> | their icons
> | changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still
> | function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter
> | what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)
> |
> | Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in
> | someone here figuring out what is going on.
> |
> | (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast
> | will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and
> | that their reputation
> | may be at stake.)
>
> At least for this while they are sticking with Win98 when others have
> abandoned us. But, yea, I'd like to see it fixed. In the meantime,
> there's no pressing need to use the Folder Selection button-- just R-Clk
> drives & folders in Explorer to do specific ones one at a time. Only if
> you need to do a SET of specific folders all at once would you need that
> button. If you want to scan EVERY drive & folder, there is the Local
> Disks button for that, & it doesn't lose icons.
>
> | Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2
> | years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??
>
> I think you are describing a different problem. Maybe start a new thread
> on it.
>
> | Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3
> | months, just a thought?
>
> Do you have avast! Home Edition v.4.7? That's the one!
>
> | The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.
>
> Nothing precisely like what you describe is happening to me.
>
>
>

 

[PCR]

Re: Re:AVAST! PROGRAM HELP FOR WINDOWS 98!

Brusso wrote:
| When you say "flying windows icon", could you please explain what you
| mean by that!

(a) "Control Panel, Display, Screen Saver tab"
(b) Select "Flying Windows", & hit the Preview button.

When that avast! phenomenon is triggered, EVERY icon in Control Panel is
one of those!

| --
| Thank you and have a great day!!!
|
| BRUSSO!!!
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> paper wrote:
|> | PCR... and all Avast! curios.
|> |
|> | I followed the other threads, and I should have posted my
|> | experience as
|> | it may also be useful to know... and to shut down a lot of
|> | suppositions.
|> |
|> | In the last 2 or 3 months, I would notice periodically, that my
|> | icons were changing on my desktop. The common-denominator was
|> | .TXT files. When this change happens, it doesnt matter where I go
|> | on the computer, because every single .TXT icon will be the one
|> | currently assigned. (by whatever is causing it.)
|> | The Icon chosen to represent the .txt files was always one of 3....
|> | 1)firefox browser icon
|> | 2)a 3D graphics piece of software icon that I have.
|> | 3)(damn, I have forgotton 3rd, but either way, something common to
|> | my computer. )
|> |
|> | As many have already pointed out, yes, a simple reboot fixes all.
|>
|> That's a common denominator, but I think your problem is a different
|> one-- if only .txt files are concerned. Also, I haven't noticed a
|> change to Desktop, QuickLauch, Taskbar, OR Tray icons. Also the 1st
|> layer of START menu icons are all good. After the 1st layer, such as
|> in the Programs sub menu, the icons are gone-- but folder & file
|> names are STILL there. It is the same in Explorer, both in the right
|> & left panes. Also, all file selection requestors will be like that.
|> The icons in Control Panel ALL are present-- BUT have changed to the
|> "flying windows" icon. I'm sure there are additional screen that are
|> mussed.
|>
|> To get that...
|>
|> (a) R-Clk Avast! in the tray, & select "Start avast! Antivirus".
|> That is... "C:\Program Files\Alwil
|> Software\Avast4\ashAvast.exe" (b) Close the little help window after
|> the memory scan. (c) Click the "Folder Selection" button, & cancel
|> it's requestor. (d) Close Avast!.
|>
|> After you have done BOTH (c) & (d)-- the icons will be MUSSED, until
|> a reboot is done!
|>
|> | The text files show just fine.
|>
|> Even with the problem I've described, all does work fine, both in &
|> out of avast!, it seems.
|>
|> | I imagine anyone else who has had
|> | their icons
|> | changed will still find the file or .exe or whatever will still
|> | function. (I never had a problem using the icon-shortcut no matter
|> | what icon was being offered by the offending problem-causer.)
|> |
|> | Anyhow, my two cents just like anyone else.... hope this helps in
|> | someone here figuring out what is going on.
|> |
|> | (btw, i've learned to live with it.)(hopefully someone from avast
|> | will drop in here and find that it really has become an issue and
|> | that their reputation
|> | may be at stake.)
|>
|> At least for this while they are sticking with Win98 when others have
|> abandoned us. But, yea, I'd like to see it fixed. In the meantime,
|> there's no pressing need to use the Folder Selection button-- just
|> R-Clk drives & folders in Explorer to do specific ones one at a
|> time. Only if you need to do a SET of specific folders all at once
|> would you need that button. If you want to scan EVERY drive &
|> folder, there is the Local Disks button for that, & it doesn't lose
|> icons.
|>
|> | Oh, I just realised something...... I have had Avast for over 2
|> | years, so why is it showing these problems up on my computer now??
|>
|> I think you are describing a different problem. Maybe start a new
|> thread on it.
|>
|> | Maybe it has something to do with one of the updates in the last 3
|> | months, just a thought?
|>
|> Do you have avast! Home Edition v.4.7? That's the one!
|>
|> | The only other explanation is that it has nothing to do with avast.
|>
|> Nothing precisely like what you describe is happening to me.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Brusso]

Can you please tell me if there is another Anti-Virus Program that will do a
boot time scan like the Avast does?
--
Thank you and have a great day!!!

BRUSSO!!!


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Google is your friend...
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVG
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:34DBBD21-CD1C-467C-86E2-4B31205EC5BD@microsoft.com...
> > What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?
> > --
> > Thank you and have a great day!!!
> >
> > BRUSSO!!!
> >
> >
> > "MEB" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...
> >> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98
> >> as
> >> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?
> >> | --
> >> | Thank you and have a great day!!!
> >> |
> >> | BRUSSO!!!
> >>
> >> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions
> >> are
> >> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other
> >> anomilies...
> >> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG.
> >> Either
> >> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of
> >> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create
> >> recovery
> >> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues
> >> related to AVAST!.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

 

[glee]

AVG can do a boot scan if you configure it to do so. Again, Google is your friend.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5692EC18-DBAB-47F2-8D88-8D4C6AFEEA78@microsoft.com...
> Can you please tell me if there is another Anti-Virus Program that will do a
> boot time scan like the Avast does?
> --
> Thank you and have a great day!!!
>
> BRUSSO!!!
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Google is your friend...
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVG
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:34DBBD21-CD1C-467C-86E2-4B31205EC5BD@microsoft.com...
>> > What do you mean when you say: "I went back to AVG"? What is AVG?
>> > --
>> > Thank you and have a great day!!!
>> >
>> > BRUSSO!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > "MEB" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Brusso" <Brusso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:808E69BA-B464-42CB-872D-F395FA57A47D@microsoft.com...
>> >> | Can you also please tell me if Avast Anti-Virus will work in Windows 98
>> >> as
>> >> | well and if there will be any problems running it at all?
>> >> | --
>> >> | Thank you and have a great day!!!
>> >> |
>> >> | BRUSSO!!!
>> >>
>> >> Yes you can install AVAST! in 98, but there are issues. Two discussions
>> >> are
>> >> or were recently held in here related to icon issues and other
>> >> anomilies...
>> >> myself I installed it and had several issues, so I went back to AVG.
>> >> Either
>> >> will likely perform sufficiently for you, both provide the same style of
>> >> protections [though AVAST! does seem to have the ability to create
>> >> recovery
>> >> files like the old DOS AV progs] just understand that there are issues
>> >> related to AVAST!.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>