Netscape 7.2 in Win98SE

[Robert Baer]

About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
various toolbars, etc to my liking.
Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
problems with getting NS7.2 to work.

Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.

Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
but it looks and acts the same.
Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.

Has Firefox screwed me?
BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
seem to work.

 

[Robert Baer]

Robert Baer wrote:

> About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
> various toolbars, etc to my liking.
> Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
> problems with getting NS7.2 to work.
>
> Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
> like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
> toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
> URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.
>
> Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
> but it looks and acts the same.
> Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
> to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
> Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.
>
> Has Firefox screwed me?
> BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
> seem to work.
Upadte:
Where FireFox was loaded first, NS7.2 absolutely refuses to work
properly.
However,"fixes" for getting the home page to show in the address bar,
and removing "Bookmark tool bar folder" line does *NOT* work.

Where FireFox has not been loaded, NS(anything) works OK.
Am a bit gun shy about loading FF now...

 

[MEB]

Uhm, both browsers find their roots in the same place... and therefore use
some of the same registry keys... the older is likely to get punked by the
newer

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:13k7f4r6hkjil3e@corp.supernews.com...
| Robert Baer wrote:
|
| > About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
| > various toolbars, etc to my liking.
| > Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
| > problems with getting NS7.2 to work.
| >
| > Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
| > like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
| > toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
| > URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.
| >
| > Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
| > but it looks and acts the same.
| > Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
| > to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
| > Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.
| >
| > Has Firefox screwed me?
| > BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
| > seem to work.
| Upadte:
| Where FireFox was loaded first, NS7.2 absolutely refuses to work
| properly.
| However,"fixes" for getting the home page to show in the address bar,
| and removing "Bookmark tool bar folder" line does *NOT* work.
|
| Where FireFox has not been loaded, NS(anything) works OK.
| Am a bit gun shy about loading FF now...

 

[Bill in Co.]

I'm curious as to why he's using Netscape 7.2, when version 9 is now out?
I guess just because he has it on his computer?

I've got Firefox 2, and I think it's a bit better than Netscape now, at
least for my basic purposes, but, who knows. (I do recall briefly
trying out Netscape 9, but found I liked FF a bit better, but can't remember
why now!).

Bill

MEB wrote:
> Uhm, both browsers find their roots in the same place... and therefore use
> some of the same registry keys... the older is likely to get punked by the
> newer
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
> "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
> news:13k7f4r6hkjil3e@corp.supernews.com...
>> Robert Baer wrote:
>>
>>> About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
>>> various toolbars, etc to my liking.
>>> Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
>>> problems with getting NS7.2 to work.
>>>
>>> Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
>>> like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
>>> toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
>>> URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.
>>>
>>> Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
>>> but it looks and acts the same.
>>> Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
>>> to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
>>> Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.
>>>
>>> Has Firefox screwed me?
>>> BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
>>> seem to work.
>> Upadte:
>> Where FireFox was loaded first, NS7.2 absolutely refuses to work
>> properly.
>> However,"fixes" for getting the home page to show in the address bar,
>> and removing "Bookmark tool bar folder" line does *NOT* work.
>>
>> Where FireFox has not been loaded, NS(anything) works OK.
>> Am a bit gun shy about loading FF now...

 

[Robert Baer]

MEB wrote:

> Uhm, both browsers find their roots in the same place... and therefore use
> some of the same registry keys... the older is likely to get punked by the
> newer
>
Seems to (more or less) be the case.
Certainly loading FF first gives serious problems to NS.
Loading NS first seems to be the best route.
Do not know yet if registry crumbs after uninstalls will dis-allow
that "solution" after uninstall of both.

 

[Robert Baer]

Bill in Co. wrote:

> I'm curious as to why he's using Netscape 7.2, when version 9 is now out?
> I guess just because he has it on his computer?
>
> I've got Firefox 2, and I think it's a bit better than Netscape now, at
> least for my basic purposes, but, who knows. (I do recall briefly
> trying out Netscape 9, but found I liked FF a bit better, but can't remember
> why now!).
>
> Bill
>
> MEB wrote:
>
>>Uhm, both browsers find their roots in the same place... and therefore use
>>some of the same registry keys... the older is likely to get punked by the
>>newer
>>
>>--
>>MEB
>>http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>>________
>>
>>
>>"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
>>news:13k7f4r6hkjil3e@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>Robert Baer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
>>>>various toolbars, etc to my liking.
>>>> Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
>>>>problems with getting NS7.2 to work.
>>>>
>>>> Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
>>>>like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
>>>>toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
>>>> URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.
>>>>
>>>> Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
>>>>but it looks and acts the same.
>>>> Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
>>>>to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
>>>> Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Has Firefox screwed me?
>>>> BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
>>>>seem to work.
>>>
>>> Upadte:
>>> Where FireFox was loaded first, NS7.2 absolutely refuses to work
>>>properly.
>>> However,"fixes" for getting the home page to show in the address bar,
>>>and removing "Bookmark tool bar folder" line does *NOT* work.
>>>
>>> Where FireFox has not been loaded, NS(anything) works OK.
>>> Am a bit gun shy about loading FF now...
>
>
>
NS 7.2 supports NGs in a manner that i like.
AFAIK both e-mail and NG support does not exist in 9.x.

 

[Bill in Co.]

Robert Baer wrote:
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>
>> I'm curious as to why he's using Netscape 7.2, when version 9 is now out?
>> I guess just because he has it on his computer?
>>
>> I've got Firefox 2, and I think it's a bit better than Netscape now, at
>> least for my basic purposes, but, who knows. (I do recall briefly
>> trying out Netscape 9, but found I liked FF a bit better, but can't
remember
>> why now!).
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> MEB wrote:
>>
>>> Uhm, both browsers find their roots in the same place... and therefore
use
>>> some of the same registry keys... the older is likely to get punked by
the
>>> newer
>>>
>>> --
>>> MEB
>>> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>>> ________
>>>
>>> "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:13k7f4r6hkjil3e@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>> Robert Baer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
>>>>> various toolbars, etc to my liking.
>>>>> Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
>>>>> problems with getting NS7.2 to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
>>>>> like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
>>>>> toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
>>>>> URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
>>>>> but it looks and acts the same.
>>>>> Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
>>>>> to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
>>>>> Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has Firefox screwed me?
>>>>> BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
>>>>> seem to work.
>>>>
>>>> Upadte:
>>>> Where FireFox was loaded first, NS7.2 absolutely refuses to work
>>>> properly.
>>>> However,"fixes" for getting the home page to show in the address bar,
>>>> and removing "Bookmark tool bar folder" line does *NOT* work.
>>>>
>>>> Where FireFox has not been loaded, NS(anything) works OK.
>>>> Am a bit gun shy about loading FF now...
>>
> NS 7.2 supports NGs in a manner that i like.

What about just using OE for that, though? (Or maybe you already said).

> AFAIK both e-mail and NG support does not exist in 9.x.

OK, good to know. Thanks. I think you're right on the latter (and
maybe that's why its filesize is a lot smaller - like only 5 or 6 MB, or so)

 

[Robert Baer]

Bill in Co. wrote:

> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>>Bill in Co. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm curious as to why he's using Netscape 7.2, when version 9 is now out?
>>>I guess just because he has it on his computer?
>>>
>>>I've got Firefox 2, and I think it's a bit better than Netscape now, at
>>>least for my basic purposes, but, who knows. (I do recall briefly
>>>trying out Netscape 9, but found I liked FF a bit better, but can't
>
> remember
>
>>>why now!).
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>MEB wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Uhm, both browsers find their roots in the same place... and therefore
>
> use
>
>>>>some of the same registry keys... the older is likely to get punked by
>
> the
>
>>>>newer
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>MEB
>>>>http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>>>>________
>>>>
>>>>"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:13k7f4r6hkjil3e@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Robert Baer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
>>>>>>various toolbars, etc to my liking.
>>>>>> Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
>>>>>>problems with getting NS7.2 to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
>>>>>>like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
>>>>>>toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
>>>>>> URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
>>>>>>but it looks and acts the same.
>>>>>> Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
>>>>>>to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
>>>>>> Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has Firefox screwed me?
>>>>>> BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
>>>>>>seem to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Upadte:
>>>>> Where FireFox was loaded first, NS7.2 absolutely refuses to work
>>>>>properly.
>>>>> However,"fixes" for getting the home page to show in the address bar,
>>>>>and removing "Bookmark tool bar folder" line does *NOT* work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where FireFox has not been loaded, NS(anything) works OK.
>>>>> Am a bit gun shy about loading FF now...
>>>
>> NS 7.2 supports NGs in a manner that i like.
>
>
> What about just using OE for that, though? (Or maybe you already said).
>
>
>> AFAIK both e-mail and NG support does not exist in 9.x.
>
>
> OK, good to know. Thanks. I think you're right on the latter (and
> maybe that's why its filesize is a lot smaller - like only 5 or 6 MB, or so)
>
>
Do not try to give me a heart attack by mentioning OE!
M$ would have to pay me a million dollars to use it for even one second!

 

[Robert Baer]

Robert Baer wrote:

> About 10 years ago, it loaded fine and i was able to configure the
> various toolbars, etc to my liking.
> Maybe because i have already installed Firefox, i have been having
> problems with getting NS7.2 to work.
>
> Install, and the top looks "reasonable", but "items" on the top bar
> like "edit / view / bookmarks" etc do not work, and there is only one
> toolbar below that (fine with me), but the buttons do not work.
> URL address bar is always blank, and no (valid) URL displays *ever*.
>
> Uninstall, re-install everything is in a different place on the HD,
> but it looks and acts the same.
> Tried some editing of panacea.dat, changing logic from hidden="true"
> to hidden="false" etc on a number of items.
> Lo and behold, i got more toolbars..more unuseable stuff.
>
> Has Firefox screwed me?
> BTW, on the old drive, i recently loaded Firefox and both browsers
> seem to work.
FireFox and Netscape interact, sometimes in a nasty manner.
You can run both *only* if you load Netscape first.
If you load FireFox first, then uninstall will not be sufficent must
ininstall anything that looks like Java, then get out the sledgehammer
and edit the registry remove all Mozilla stuff and Firefox stuff.
If you had also installed Netscape, uninstall that as well before
smashing the registry.
Also delete all folders related to NS and FF and Mozilla.
*Then* you might have a chance.