Unable to boot/start win98 computer

[LewB]

I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:

"CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"

If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
supply.

If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
screen and then to another screen that is this:

"Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
Widows application.

The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
the device file no longer exists.

If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
application using its uninstall or setup program.

If you still want to use the application associated with this device
file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.

asivmsvc.vxd"

If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"

The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.

I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

LJ Brown



--
LJB

 

[Brian A.]

The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.
In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.
Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_
Open the system.ini in notepad.
Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:
system.drv=atmsys.drv
to
system.drv=system.drv

Save and close notepad.
Reboot to your Normal desktop.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>
> "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>
> If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> supply.
>
> If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> screen and then to another screen that is this:
>
> "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> Widows application.
>
> The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> the device file no longer exists.
>
> If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> application using its uninstall or setup program.
>
> If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>
> asivmsvc.vxd"
>
> If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>
> The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>
> I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>
> LJ Brown
>
>
>
> --
> LJB

 

[glee]

Replies inline....

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>
> "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>
> If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> supply.


The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu
allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may be
dying, causing the system to lose its settings.

Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving Changes
(even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the
processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the
BIOS setup.

You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type
battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save
changes and exit.

Do you happen to know what processor is installed?


> If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> screen and then to another screen that is this:
>
> "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> Widows application.
>
> The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> the device file no longer exists.
>
> If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> application using its uninstall or setup program.
>
> If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>
> asivmsvc.vxd"


In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver
file.

Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no
longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can correctly
uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
Printers control panel.

The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not critical
to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's
reply for the atmsys error.


> If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"


As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
Sysedit.
Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
system.drv=atmsys.drv
to
system.drv=system.drv


> The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>
> I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

 

[LewB]

Brian,
Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to
get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is
"unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and
by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double
click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't
know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in
safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through
FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can
enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some
help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making
the suggested change. Thanks
--
LJB


"Brian A." wrote:

> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.
> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.
> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_
> Open the system.ini in notepad.
> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:
> system.drv=atmsys.drv
> to
> system.drv=system.drv
>
> Save and close notepad.
> Reboot to your Normal desktop.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
> >
> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
> >
> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> > supply.
> >
> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
> >
> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> > Widows application.
> >
> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> > the device file no longer exists.
> >
> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
> >
> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
> >
> > asivmsvc.vxd"
> >
> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
> >
> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
> >
> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
> >
> > LJ Brown
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > LJB
>
>

 

[LewB]

Hi Glen,
I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
motherboard. Thanks for the input.
--
LJB


"glee" wrote:

> Replies inline....
>
> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
> >
> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
> >
> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> > supply.
>
>
> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu
> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may be
> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
>
> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving Changes
> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the
> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the
> BIOS setup.
>
> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type
> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save
> changes and exit.
>
> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
>
>
> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
> >
> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> > Widows application.
> >
> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> > the device file no longer exists.
> >
> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
> >
> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
> >
> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>
>
> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver
> file.
>
> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no
> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can correctly
> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
> Printers control panel.
>
> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not critical
> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's
> reply for the atmsys error.
>
>
> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>
>
> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
> Sysedit.
> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
> system.drv=atmsys.drv
> to
> system.drv=system.drv
>
>
> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
> >
> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
>
>

 

[glee]

No, the atmsys error and resolution have nothing to do with the CPU error. The CPU
error is a BIOS message, and has to do with your hardware. It occurs before Windows
ever starts. Your atmsys error occurs when Windows starts to load, and refers to a
driver loaded from Windows startup files.

In Safe Mode, click Start> Run, type:
sysedit
|Click OK|

In Sysedit, click the Window menu> then click System.ini on the sub-menu that
appears.
This will bring System.ini to the front.

Scroll to the [boot] section, and look for this line:
system.drv=atmsys.drv

(or it may show this line instead:
system.drv=atmsystem.drv)

Edit it to read
system.drv=system.drv

Click the File menu> Save, then close Sysedit.
It will automatically make a backup of the file you changed.

Reboot.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:9AAFCB62-702A-4FA0-83D6-9937B4B5158E@microsoft.com...
> Brian,
> Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to
> get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is
> "unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and
> by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double
> click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't
> know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in
> safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through
> FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can
> enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some
> help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making
> the suggested change. Thanks
> --
> LJB
>
>
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.
>> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.
>> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_
>> Open the system.ini in notepad.
>> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:
>> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>> to
>> system.drv=system.drv
>>
>> Save and close notepad.
>> Reboot to your Normal desktop.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
>> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
>> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>> >
>> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>> >
>> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
>> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>> > supply.
>> >
>> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>> >
>> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>> > Widows application.
>> >
>> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>> > the device file no longer exists.
>> >
>> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>> >
>> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>> >
>> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>> >
>> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
>> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>> >
>> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
>> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>> >
>> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>> >
>> > LJ Brown
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > LJB
>>
>>

 

[glee]

Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did the
"routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may
vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".

If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the battery
holder or its clips.

You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the CR2032
Lithium battery.

You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.

You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your
body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.

After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS
setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit
Saving Changes.

How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge

What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm

How to replace the CMOS battery
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery

CMOS battery 2032
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
> Hi Glen,
> I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
> show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
> The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
> replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
> motherboard. Thanks for the input.
> --
> LJB
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> Replies inline....
>>
>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
>> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
>> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>> >
>> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>> >
>> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
>> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>> > supply.
>>
>>
>> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu
>> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may
>> be
>> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
>>
>> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
>> Changes
>> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the
>> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the
>> BIOS setup.
>>
>> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type
>> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save
>> changes and exit.
>>
>> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
>>
>>
>> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>> >
>> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>> > Widows application.
>> >
>> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>> > the device file no longer exists.
>> >
>> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>> >
>> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>> >
>> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>>
>>
>> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver
>> file.
>>
>> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
>> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no
>> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
>> correctly
>> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
>> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
>> Printers control panel.
>>
>> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
>> critical
>> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's
>> reply for the atmsys error.
>>
>>
>> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
>> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>>
>>
>> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
>> Sysedit.
>> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
>> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>> to
>> system.drv=system.drv
>>
>>
>> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
>> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>> >
>> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>
>>
>>

 

[LewB]

Well I followed your suggestions and changed the line to
system.drv=system.drv in the system configuration utility. Nothing has
changed on rebooting however the same messages appear. Now when I get to
the first screen that says "cannot find a device file.....asivmsvc.vxd" and
click any key a very brief screen comes and goes but with a camera it says
"error loading lmouse.drv...you must reinstall Windows". previously the same
error came up but associated with the atmsy.drv.
Searching through several Help areas and also from my Windows Startup
disc I was directed to System.ini in msconfig and to uncheck the boxes
associated with the atmsy.drv which I did. I did this before I started to
communicate with this newsgroup but it was after I did the unchecking that
the "lmouse.drv" replaced the "atmsy.drv" on boot. When I saw this I went
back to system.ini and replaced the check marks at the atmsy.drv sites but
the lmouse.drv continues to come up.

Now checking the system.ini in the system configuration utility the line
reads as desired, "system.drv=system.drv".

LJB
--
LJB


"glee" wrote:

> No, the atmsys error and resolution have nothing to do with the CPU error. The CPU
> error is a BIOS message, and has to do with your hardware. It occurs before Windows
> ever starts. Your atmsys error occurs when Windows starts to load, and refers to a
> driver loaded from Windows startup files.
>
> In Safe Mode, click Start> Run, type:
> sysedit
> |Click OK|
>
> In Sysedit, click the Window menu> then click System.ini on the sub-menu that
> appears.
> This will bring System.ini to the front.
>
> Scroll to the [boot] section, and look for this line:
> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>
> (or it may show this line instead:
> system.drv=atmsystem.drv)
>
> Edit it to read
> system.drv=system.drv
>
> Click the File menu> Save, then close Sysedit.
> It will automatically make a backup of the file you changed.
>
> Reboot.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
>
> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> news:9AAFCB62-702A-4FA0-83D6-9937B4B5158E@microsoft.com...
> > Brian,
> > Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to
> > get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is
> > "unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and
> > by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double
> > click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't
> > know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in
> > safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through
> > FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can
> > enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some
> > help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making
> > the suggested change. Thanks
> > --
> > LJB
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> >> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.
> >> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.
> >> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_
> >> Open the system.ini in notepad.
> >> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:
> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
> >> to
> >> system.drv=system.drv
> >>
> >> Save and close notepad.
> >> Reboot to your Normal desktop.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >>
> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >>
> >>
> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
> >> >
> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
> >> >
> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> >> > supply.
> >> >
> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
> >> >
> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> >> > Widows application.
> >> >
> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> >> > the device file no longer exists.
> >> >
> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
> >> >
> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
> >> >
> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
> >> >
> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
> >> >
> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
> >> >
> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > LJ Brown
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > LJB
> >>
> >>
>
>

 

[LewB]

Hi Glen,
Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct
processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same
"unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the
problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should
I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks
--
LJB


"glee" wrote:

> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did the
> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may
> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
>
> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the battery
> holder or its clips.
>
> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the CR2032
> Lithium battery.
>
> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.
>
> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your
> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.
>
> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS
> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit
> Saving Changes.
>
> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge
>
> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm
>
> How to replace the CMOS battery
> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery
>
> CMOS battery 2032
> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
>
> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Glen,
> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.
> > --
> > LJB
> >
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> Replies inline....
> >>
> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
> >> >
> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
> >> >
> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> >> > supply.
> >>
> >>
> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft Menu
> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may
> >> be
> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
> >>
> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
> >> Changes
> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the
> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in the
> >> BIOS setup.
> >>
> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a coin-type
> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults, save
> >> changes and exit.
> >>
> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
> >>
> >>
> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
> >> >
> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> >> > Widows application.
> >> >
> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> >> > the device file no longer exists.
> >> >
> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
> >> >
> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
> >> >
> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
> >>
> >>
> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer driver
> >> file.
> >>
> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you no
> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
> >> correctly
> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
> >> Printers control panel.
> >>
> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
> >> critical
> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's
> >> reply for the atmsys error.
> >>
> >>
> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
> >>
> >>
> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
> >> Sysedit.
> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
> >> to
> >> system.drv=system.drv
> >>
> >>
> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
> >> >
> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

 

[alvinamorey@notmail.com]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:04:00 -0800, LewB
<whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote:

>Brian,
> Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to
>get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is
>"unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and
>by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double
>click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't
>know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in
>safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through
>FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can
>enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some
>help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making
>the suggested change. Thanks
>--
>LJB

The backing up is the easy part. Boot from a dos floppy and copy the
file to another folder or to the floppy itself. If you dont know how
to use dos commands, this is a good time to learn.

Try this...
boot from the floppy

Now type this. (do not type the word *ENTER*, hit ENTER KEY)
c:
*ENTER*
cd\windows
*ENTER*
copy system.ini a:
*ENTER*
edit system.ini
*ENTER*
(you need the dos EDIT.COM file on your floppy)
(use this dos editor to edit the file as desired, then follow
directions to save and exit).

ALT F - ALT S (save)
ALT F - ALT Q (quit editor)

 

[Brian A.]

Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?
Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the
machine back in order.
Glen stated:
<quote>
The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
</quote>

You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.

I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show some
other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.
Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU
installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB may
have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM to......

Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe
side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the CR2032
is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that one's
different.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...
> Hi Glen,
> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct
> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same
> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the
> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should
> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks
> --
> LJB
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did
>> the
>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may
>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
>>
>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the
>> battery
>> holder or its clips.
>>
>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the CR2032
>> Lithium battery.
>>
>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.
>>
>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your
>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.
>>
>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS
>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit
>> Saving Changes.
>>
>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge
>>
>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm
>>
>> How to replace the CMOS battery
>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery
>>
>> CMOS battery 2032
>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8
>>
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>
>>
>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Glen,
>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.
>> > --
>> > LJB
>> >
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Replies inline....
>> >>
>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>> >> >
>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>> >> >
>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
>> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>> >> > supply.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft
>> >> Menu
>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may
>> >> be
>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
>> >>
>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
>> >> Changes
>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the
>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in
>> >> the
>> >> BIOS setup.
>> >>
>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a
>> >> coin-type
>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,
>> >> save
>> >> changes and exit.
>> >>
>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>> >> > Widows application.
>> >> >
>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>> >> > the device file no longer exists.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>> >> >
>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer
>> >> driver
>> >> file.
>> >>
>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you
>> >> no
>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
>> >> correctly
>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
>> >> Printers control panel.
>> >>
>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
>> >> critical
>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's
>> >> reply for the atmsys error.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
>> >> Sysedit.
>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>> >> to
>> >> system.drv=system.drv
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

 

[glee]

Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for the optimized
defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called the "failsafe"
settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.

Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the choices are
for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your choices? Give
us that info along with the info Brian has requested.

Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your earlier posts.
You mention "atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned the first
file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according to the
messages you receive at startup?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?
> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the
> machine back in order.
> Glen stated:
> <quote>
> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
> </quote>
>
> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.
>
> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show
> some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.
> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU
> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB
> may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM
> to......
>
> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe
> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the
> CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that
> one's different.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...
>> Hi Glen,
>> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct
>> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same
>> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the
>> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should
>> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks
>> --
>> LJB
>>
>>
>> "glee" wrote:
>>
>>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did
>>> the
>>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may
>>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
>>>
>>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the
>>> battery
>>> holder or its clips.
>>>
>>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the
>>> CR2032
>>> Lithium battery.
>>>
>>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.
>>>
>>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your
>>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.
>>>
>>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS
>>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit
>>> Saving Changes.
>>>
>>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge
>>>
>>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
>>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm
>>>
>>> How to replace the CMOS battery
>>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery
>>>
>>> CMOS battery 2032
>>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8
>>>
>>> --
>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>>
>>>
>>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
>>> > Hi Glen,
>>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
>>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
>>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
>>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
>>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.
>>> > --
>>> > LJB
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "glee" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Replies inline....
>>> >>
>>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as
>>> >> >the
>>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
>>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
>>> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>>> >> > supply.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft
>>> >> Menu
>>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery
>>> >> may
>>> >> be
>>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
>>> >>
>>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
>>> >> Changes
>>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect
>>> >> the
>>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in
>>> >> the
>>> >> BIOS setup.
>>> >>
>>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a
>>> >> coin-type
>>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,
>>> >> save
>>> >> changes and exit.
>>> >>
>>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>>> >> > Widows application.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>>> >> > the device file no longer exists.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer
>>> >> driver
>>> >> file.
>>> >>
>>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
>>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you
>>> >> no
>>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
>>> >> correctly
>>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
>>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
>>> >> Printers control panel.
>>> >>
>>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
>>> >> critical
>>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See
>>> >> Brian's
>>> >> reply for the atmsys error.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
>>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
>>> >> Sysedit.
>>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
>>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>>> >> to
>>> >> system.drv=system.drv
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
>>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>

 

[glee]

OK, I replied to your other post before I saw this one.
Lew, you say "nothing changed....the same messages appear". WHICH messages? We are
discussing a number of different and possibly unrelated messages in this thread.

At this point in your description, I can't tell what you have checked or unchecked
in msconfig (who told you to use msconfig?!), what lines say what, how may
"system.drv=" lines you have in the file now, and whether one or more messages
*concerning the missing files* are appearing at startup.

We asked that you use Notepad or Sysedit....Sysedit makes a backup. Using the check
boxes in msconfig has confused the issue. If you are now getting an lmouse error
also, you have changed other lines or checkboxes in either msconfig or sysedit. We
can't help if you don't follow direction exactly.

<sigh> I have to go to the dentist, so I will have to come back to this later.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:C4D23F71-4BD1-4BDB-A9A7-D3B228F1A044@microsoft.com...
> Well I followed your suggestions and changed the line to
> system.drv=system.drv in the system configuration utility. Nothing has
> changed on rebooting however the same messages appear. Now when I get to
> the first screen that says "cannot find a device file.....asivmsvc.vxd" and
> click any key a very brief screen comes and goes but with a camera it says
> "error loading lmouse.drv...you must reinstall Windows". previously the same
> error came up but associated with the atmsy.drv.
> Searching through several Help areas and also from my Windows Startup
> disc I was directed to System.ini in msconfig and to uncheck the boxes
> associated with the atmsy.drv which I did. I did this before I started to
> communicate with this newsgroup but it was after I did the unchecking that
> the "lmouse.drv" replaced the "atmsy.drv" on boot. When I saw this I went
> back to system.ini and replaced the check marks at the atmsy.drv sites but
> the lmouse.drv continues to come up.
>
> Now checking the system.ini in the system configuration utility the line
> reads as desired, "system.drv=system.drv".
>
> LJB
> --
> LJB
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> No, the atmsys error and resolution have nothing to do with the CPU error. The
>> CPU
>> error is a BIOS message, and has to do with your hardware. It occurs before
>> Windows
>> ever starts. Your atmsys error occurs when Windows starts to load, and refers to
>> a
>> driver loaded from Windows startup files.
>>
>> In Safe Mode, click Start> Run, type:
>> sysedit
>> |Click OK|
>>
>> In Sysedit, click the Window menu> then click System.ini on the sub-menu that
>> appears.
>> This will bring System.ini to the front.
>>
>> Scroll to the [boot] section, and look for this line:
>> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>>
>> (or it may show this line instead:
>> system.drv=atmsystem.drv)
>>
>> Edit it to read
>> system.drv=system.drv
>>
>> Click the File menu> Save, then close Sysedit.
>> It will automatically make a backup of the file you changed.
>>
>> Reboot.
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>
>>
>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> news:9AAFCB62-702A-4FA0-83D6-9937B4B5158E@microsoft.com...
>> > Brian,
>> > Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to
>> > get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is
>> > "unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and
>> > by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double
>> > click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't
>> > know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in
>> > safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through
>> > FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can
>> > enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some
>> > help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making
>> > the suggested change. Thanks
>> > --
>> > LJB
>> >
>> >
>> > "Brian A." wrote:
>> >
>> >> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.
>> >> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.
>> >> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_
>> >> Open the system.ini in notepad.
>> >> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:
>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>> >> to
>> >> system.drv=system.drv
>> >>
>> >> Save and close notepad.
>> >> Reboot to your Normal desktop.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> >>
>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>> >> >
>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>> >> >
>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
>> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>> >> > supply.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>> >> > Widows application.
>> >> >
>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>> >> > the device file no longer exists.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>> >> >
>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>> >> >
>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>> >> >
>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > LJ Brown
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > LJB
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

 

[Brian A.]

I'll be gosh darned! Earlier I was thinking the "asivmsvc.vxd" (Adobe System
Information) might have to do with Adobe but I backed away when NEC was mentioned.
I've see it mentioned as being used in other apps, Adobe being one of them, but not
as much.
Now I've run into this which has to do with atmsy.drv (Adobe Type Manager) and puts
me back on that track. BTW Glen, 2 out of 3 files were mentioned in Lew's orig.
post, the 2 mentioned here, not lmouse.drv.

Lew, if you have the second line in System.ini under [Boot] as mention in the
article, it may get one issue tossed on the roadside.

Word Processor Files Won't Open in Works for Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/99835

Please keep in mind to provide all of the other info requested.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:O40Nc7qKIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for the optimized
> defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called the
> "failsafe" settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.
>
> Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the choices are
> for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your choices? Give
> us that info along with the info Brian has requested.
>
> Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your earlier posts.
> You mention "atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned the first
> file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according to the
> messages you receive at startup?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?
>> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the
>> machine back in order.
>> Glen stated:
>> <quote>
>> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
>> </quote>
>>
>> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.
>>
>> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show
>> some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.
>> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU
>> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB
>> may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM
>> to......
>>
>> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe
>> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the
>> CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that
>> one's different.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi Glen,
>>> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct
>>> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same
>>> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the
>>> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should
>>> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks
>>> --
>>> LJB
>>>
>>>
>>> "glee" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did
>>>> the
>>>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may
>>>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
>>>>
>>>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the
>>>> battery
>>>> holder or its clips.
>>>>
>>>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the
>>>> CR2032
>>>> Lithium battery.
>>>>
>>>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.
>>>>
>>>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your
>>>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.
>>>>
>>>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS
>>>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit
>>>> Saving Changes.
>>>>
>>>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
>>>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge
>>>>
>>>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
>>>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm
>>>>
>>>> How to replace the CMOS battery
>>>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery
>>>>
>>>> CMOS battery 2032
>>>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>>>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
>>>> > Hi Glen,
>>>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
>>>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
>>>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
>>>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
>>>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.
>>>> > --
>>>> > LJB
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "glee" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Replies inline....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>>>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as
>>>> >> >the
>>>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
>>>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>>>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>>>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>>>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
>>>> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>>>> >> > supply.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft
>>>> >> Menu
>>>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery
>>>> >> may
>>>> >> be
>>>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
>>>> >> Changes
>>>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> BIOS setup.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a
>>>> >> coin-type
>>>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,
>>>> >> save
>>>> >> changes and exit.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>>>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>>>> >> > Widows application.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>>>> >> > the device file no longer exists.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>>>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>>>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer
>>>> >> driver
>>>> >> file.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
>>>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you
>>>> >> no
>>>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
>>>> >> correctly
>>>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
>>>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
>>>> >> Printers control panel.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
>>>> >> critical
>>>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See
>>>> >> Brian's
>>>> >> reply for the atmsys error.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
>>>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
>>>> >> Sysedit.
>>>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
>>>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> system.drv=system.drv
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
>>>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>>>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>>>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>>>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>>>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

 

[Brian A.]

Before I go any further see my response to Glen in a post below.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:C4D23F71-4BD1-4BDB-A9A7-D3B228F1A044@microsoft.com...
> Well I followed your suggestions and changed the line to
> system.drv=system.drv in the system configuration utility. Nothing has
> changed on rebooting however the same messages appear. Now when I get to
> the first screen that says "cannot find a device file.....asivmsvc.vxd" and
> click any key a very brief screen comes and goes but with a camera it says
> "error loading lmouse.drv...you must reinstall Windows". previously the same
> error came up but associated with the atmsy.drv.
> Searching through several Help areas and also from my Windows Startup
> disc I was directed to System.ini in msconfig and to uncheck the boxes
> associated with the atmsy.drv which I did. I did this before I started to
> communicate with this newsgroup but it was after I did the unchecking that
> the "lmouse.drv" replaced the "atmsy.drv" on boot. When I saw this I went
> back to system.ini and replaced the check marks at the atmsy.drv sites but
> the lmouse.drv continues to come up.
>
> Now checking the system.ini in the system configuration utility the line
> reads as desired, "system.drv=system.drv".
>
> LJB
> --
> LJB
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> No, the atmsys error and resolution have nothing to do with the CPU error. The
>> CPU
>> error is a BIOS message, and has to do with your hardware. It occurs before
>> Windows
>> ever starts. Your atmsys error occurs when Windows starts to load, and refers to
>> a
>> driver loaded from Windows startup files.
>>
>> In Safe Mode, click Start> Run, type:
>> sysedit
>> |Click OK|
>>
>> In Sysedit, click the Window menu> then click System.ini on the sub-menu that
>> appears.
>> This will bring System.ini to the front.
>>
>> Scroll to the [boot] section, and look for this line:
>> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>>
>> (or it may show this line instead:
>> system.drv=atmsystem.drv)
>>
>> Edit it to read
>> system.drv=system.drv
>>
>> Click the File menu> Save, then close Sysedit.
>> It will automatically make a backup of the file you changed.
>>
>> Reboot.
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>
>>
>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> news:9AAFCB62-702A-4FA0-83D6-9937B4B5158E@microsoft.com...
>> > Brian,
>> > Thanks to you and Glen for your help. I gather that the critical file to
>> > get the computer functional and remove the opening message that the CPU is
>> > "unworkable" is the "atmsys.drv" file ? Anyway I went back to safe mode and
>> > by going to "FIND" and entering "system.ini" it does come up and a double
>> > click opens Notepad and [boot] which has the critical line. However I don't
>> > know how to backup "system.ini". It (backup)is not in my program list in
>> > safe mode (programs/accessories/system tools) but I can bring it up through
>> > FIND. But I don't know how to apply it. If I go to MS-Prompt/command I can
>> > enter it in the C:\ drive but only "bad command" results. So I need some
>> > help in this area if I indeed need to backup up "system.ini" before making
>> > the suggested change. Thanks
>> > --
>> > LJB
>> >
>> >
>> > "Brian A." wrote:
>> >
>> >> The file atmsys.drv is for Adobe Type Manager.
>> >> In Safe Mode navigate to the file "c:\windows\system.ini.
>> >> Create a backup of the system.ini and name it system.in_
>> >> Open the system.ini in notepad.
>> >> Under the section heading "[boot] edit the line:
>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>> >> to
>> >> system.drv=system.drv
>> >>
>> >> Save and close notepad.
>> >> Reboot to your Normal desktop.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> >>
>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>> >> >
>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>> >> >
>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
>> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>> >> > supply.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>> >> > Widows application.
>> >> >
>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>> >> > the device file no longer exists.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>> >> >
>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>> >> >
>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>> >> >
>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > LJ Brown
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > LJB
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

 

[Ben Myers]

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
> I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
> "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
> If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> supply.

Try saving the settings by pressing F10.

> If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> screen and then to another screen that is this:
> "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> Widows application.
> The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> the device file no longer exists.
> If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> application using its uninstall or setup program.
> If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
> asivmsvc.vxd"
> If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
> The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
> I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.

Go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and create a Windows 98
boot floppy. Use it to start the computer in question, insert your Windows
98 CD, type "setup" and press "Enter".

Ben

 

[MEB]

I'll enter this discussion to perhaps emphasize this key element to Lew:

EACH time you *fail* to follow the *exact* directions of Brian and Glen,
and attempt to start Windows, it will AUTOMATICALLY attempt to adjust itself
to the configuration, REGARDLESS of whether it is correct or not.... so you
will get more and more errors ....

FOLLOW their directions before it becomes impossible to correct the growing
errors .... correct the BIOS issues FIRST, so they can potentially have you
revert to a prior configuration/registry, BEFORE they are all overwritten
.... [might want to backup the oldest or all of the present ones, just in
case they're needed].

My apologies to Brian and Glen for entering their discussion without openly
apparent need ...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[LewB]

I've reviewed the correspondence again and will attempt to provide the
additional information.
I previously stated that the BIOS (in CPU Soft Menu) correctly lists the
processor and I went back to this area to be certain. The processor is Intel
Pentium III 450 MHz MMX and that is what is listed in the soft menu. The CPU
Operating Speed however is only at 233 (66) and I don't know if that should
be 450 instead?? I doubt if this is a factor however??
In the Soft Menu the choices are:

!!CPU SOFT MENU!!

ESC: Quit
F1: Help
F5: Old Values
F7: Load Setup Defaults
(Shift)F2: Color

I chose the F7 based on my understanding of Glen's note but I presume
that was the wrong choice??

In the BIOS there are 12 lines from CPU soft menu, standard CMOS setup,
BIOS features setup, Chipset features setup,load set defaults,........ exit
without saving. Each section has multiple entries as you know. It would
take a long time to list each item in each subsection.

This computer was built in 1999 by a local professional computer guru.
The motherboard is a BH6. I have the box it came in with the name ABIT on it
so I presume that was the manufacturer?? I am unable to see any writing on
the board itself inside the computer that would identify it any further nor
am I able to provide a model number. I do have the BH6 User's Manual however
but no model number is included therein.
I have not added anything. I did remove the check marks from the
"atmsys.drv" boxes in the msconfig/system.ini area as was suggested in a help
section on the Win98 startup disc but when the same errors came up I replaced
them. It was then that I noticed on boot up that the "atmsys.drv" was now
replaced by the "lmouse.drv" line when I would click the screen after the
"Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
Widows application. asivmsvc.vxd" and then the computer again shuts down.
I did use the run/sysedit section to change the "system.drv=atmsys.drv"
to system.drv=system.drv" and that line is in the [boot] section in both the
system configuration editor and the msconfig/system.ini area.
Glen the "etc" is was referring was the other file, the "asivmsvc.vxd"
but nothing else.
Sorry for the confusion guys. I hope this helps a little.

Lew




--
LJB


"glee" wrote:

> Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for the optimized
> defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called the "failsafe"
> settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.
>
> Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the choices are
> for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your choices? Give
> us that info along with the info Brian has requested.
>
> Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your earlier posts.
> You mention "atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned the first
> file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according to the
> messages you receive at startup?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?
> > Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the
> > machine back in order.
> > Glen stated:
> > <quote>
> > The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
> > </quote>
> >
> > You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.
> >
> > I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show
> > some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.
> > Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU
> > installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB
> > may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM
> > to......
> >
> > Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe
> > side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the
> > CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that
> > one's different.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >
> > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >
> >
> > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> > news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...
> >> Hi Glen,
> >> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct
> >> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same
> >> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the
> >> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should
> >> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks
> >> --
> >> LJB
> >>
> >>
> >> "glee" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did
> >>> the
> >>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may
> >>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
> >>>
> >>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the
> >>> battery
> >>> holder or its clips.
> >>>
> >>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the
> >>> CR2032
> >>> Lithium battery.
> >>>
> >>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.
> >>>
> >>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your
> >>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.
> >>>
> >>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS
> >>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit
> >>> Saving Changes.
> >>>
> >>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
> >>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge
> >>>
> >>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
> >>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm
> >>>
> >>> How to replace the CMOS battery
> >>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery
> >>>
> >>> CMOS battery 2032
> >>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> >>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
> >>> > Hi Glen,
> >>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
> >>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
> >>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
> >>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
> >>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.
> >>> > --
> >>> > LJB
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > "glee" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Replies inline....
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as
> >>> >> >the
> >>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> >>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> >>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> >>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> >>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> >>> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> >>> >> > supply.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft
> >>> >> Menu
> >>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery
> >>> >> may
> >>> >> be
> >>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
> >>> >> Changes
> >>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> BIOS setup.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a
> >>> >> coin-type
> >>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,
> >>> >> save
> >>> >> changes and exit.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> >>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> >>> >> > Widows application.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> >>> >> > the device file no longer exists.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> >>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> >>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer
> >>> >> driver
> >>> >> file.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
> >>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you
> >>> >> no
> >>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
> >>> >> correctly
> >>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
> >>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
> >>> >> Printers control panel.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
> >>> >> critical
> >>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See
> >>> >> Brian's
> >>> >> reply for the atmsys error.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> >>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
> >>> >> Sysedit.
> >>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
> >>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> system.drv=system.drv
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> >>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> >>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> >>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> >>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> >>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
>

 

[LewB]

Hi Brian,
I sent a longer note earlier but looking for my motherboard on the Web I
came up wih this that looks like mine.
http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/bh6.htm

Hope this helps along with the other info I sent earlier. I have not done
anything further pending comments/suggestions from you and GLen.

Lew
--
LJB


"Brian A." wrote:

> Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?
> Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the
> machine back in order.
> Glen stated:
> <quote>
> The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
> </quote>
>
> You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.
>
> I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show some
> other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.
> Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU
> installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB may
> have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM to......
>
> Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the safe
> side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the CR2032
> is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that one's
> different.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Glen,
> > Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct
> > processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same
> > "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the
> > problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should
> > I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks
> > --
> > LJB
> >
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you did
> >> the
> >> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language may
> >> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
> >>
> >> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the
> >> battery
> >> holder or its clips.
> >>
> >> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the CR2032
> >> Lithium battery.
> >>
> >> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.
> >>
> >> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from your
> >> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.
> >>
> >> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the BIOS
> >> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then Exit
> >> Saving Changes.
> >>
> >> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
> >> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge
> >>
> >> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
> >> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm
> >>
> >> How to replace the CMOS battery
> >> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery
> >>
> >> CMOS battery 2032
> >> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8
> >>
> >> --
> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> >>
> >>
> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> >> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Glen,
> >> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
> >> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
> >> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
> >> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
> >> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.
> >> > --
> >> > LJB
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Replies inline....
> >> >>
> >> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as the
> >> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did something
> >> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
> >> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
> >> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
> >> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is nothing
> >> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
> >> >> > supply.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft
> >> >> Menu
> >> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery may
> >> >> be
> >> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
> >> >>
> >> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
> >> >> Changes
> >> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect the
> >> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults in
> >> >> the
> >> >> BIOS setup.
> >> >>
> >> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a
> >> >> coin-type
> >> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,
> >> >> save
> >> >> changes and exit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
> >> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> >> >> > Widows application.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
> >> >> > the device file no longer exists.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
> >> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
> >> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer
> >> >> driver
> >> >> file.
> >> >>
> >> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver and
> >> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If you
> >> >> no
> >> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
> >> >> correctly
> >> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the NEC
> >> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from the
> >> >> Printers control panel.
> >> >>
> >> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
> >> >> critical
> >> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See Brian's
> >> >> reply for the atmsys error.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch it
> >> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad or
> >> >> Sysedit.
> >> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
> >> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
> >> >> to
> >> >> system.drv=system.drv
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that allows
> >> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
> >> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
> >> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
> >> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
> >> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

 

[Brian A.]

"LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
news:1457DB46-C91B-4BC9-8823-2A61338A9AF8@microsoft.com...
> I've reviewed the correspondence again and will attempt to provide the
> additional information.
> I previously stated that the BIOS (in CPU Soft Menu) correctly lists the
> processor and I went back to this area to be certain. The processor is Intel
> Pentium III 450 MHz MMX and that is what is listed in the soft menu. The CPU
> Operating Speed however is only at 233 (66) and I don't know if that should
> be 450 instead?? I doubt if this is a factor however??

Is the CPU Operating Speed set as"User Defined"?
I've a sneaky suspicion that the FSB should be set to (100) but I haven't checked
out the info on the board/BIOS completely as of yet.
From some info I have looked at I believe there should be a setting "Speed Error
Hold", if this setting is enabled it presents the user with the error "CPU is
unworkable or has been changed" when booting with a non-standard FSB.


> In the Soft Menu the choices are:
>
> !!CPU SOFT MENU!!
>
> ESC: Quit
> F1: Help
> F5: Old Values
> F7: Load Setup Defaults
> (Shift)F2: Color
>
> I chose the F7 based on my understanding of Glen's note but I presume
> that was the wrong choice??
>
> In the BIOS there are 12 lines from CPU soft menu, standard CMOS setup,
> BIOS features setup, Chipset features setup,load set defaults,........ exit
> without saving. Each section has multiple entries as you know. It would
> take a long time to list each item in each subsection.
>
> This computer was built in 1999 by a local professional computer guru.
> The motherboard is a BH6. I have the box it came in with the name ABIT on it
> so I presume that was the manufacturer?? I am unable to see any writing on
> the board itself inside the computer that would identify it any further nor
> am I able to provide a model number. I do have the BH6 User's Manual however
> but no model number is included therein.

BH6 is the model.

> I have not added anything. I did remove the check marks from the
> "atmsys.drv" boxes in the msconfig/system.ini area as was suggested in a help
> section on the Win98 startup disc but when the same errors came up I replaced
> them. It was then that I noticed on boot up that the "atmsys.drv" was now
> replaced by the "lmouse.drv" line when I would click the screen after the
> "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
> Widows application. asivmsvc.vxd" and then the computer again shuts down.
> I did use the run/sysedit section to change the "system.drv=atmsys.drv"
> to system.drv=system.drv" and that line is in the [boot] section in both the
> system configuration editor and the msconfig/system.ini area.
> Glen the "etc" is was referring was the other file, the "asivmsvc.vxd"
> but nothing else.
> Sorry for the confusion guys. I hope this helps a little.
>
> Lew


--

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Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



>
>
>
>
> --
> LJB
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> Actually, some BIOS setup programs used the name "Setup Defaults" for the
>> optimized
>> defaults. Of the setups I have seen that used that term, they called the
>> "failsafe"
>> settings "BIOS Defaults". It can get confusing.
>>
>> Lew, to be clear, please look in your BIOS setup and tell us what the choices are
>> for loading default settings.....what are the names it uses for your choices?
>> Give
>> us that info along with the info Brian has requested.
>>
>> Also, you are adding stuff now that I don't recall seeing in your earlier posts.
>> You mention "atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc" where before you only mentioned the first
>> file. What are the "etc" files? How many files are missing according to the
>> messages you receive at startup?
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>>
>>
>> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
>> news:ePgvM$nKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Lew, Lew, Lew. What are we going to do with you?
>> > Please read the responses carefully and follow them explicitly so we can get the
>> > machine back in order.
>> > Glen stated:
>> > <quote>
>> > The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
>> > </quote>
>> >
>> > You loaded the Default Setup, no, no, no.
>> >
>> > I notice you mention the Soft Menu shows the correct CPU. It should also show
>> > some other settings such as the AGP, RAM, FSB, etc.
>> > Could you please provide the Motherboard manufacturer/make/model and the CPU
>> > installed so I/we can look up information on it. It appears to me that the FSB
>> > may have been changed from what it should be to match the CPU to match the RAM
>> > to......
>> >
>> > Batteries are cheap enough, may as well pick one up to swap out to be on the
>> > safe
>> > side. Make sure you get the correct one for your mobo, as Glen mentioned the
>> > CR2032 is the most prominent one around, yet there are the rare occasions that
>> > one's different.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> > Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> >
>> > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> >
>> >
>> > "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> > news:06C4EA41-94A6-4B1E-87D2-1B0D01745075@microsoft.com...
>> >> Hi Glen,
>> >> Responding to your last reply the BIOS Soft Menu does show the correct
>> >> processor and I entered "Load Setup Defaults" and saved but the same
>> >> "unworkable CPU" line comes up on reboot. Which takes precedence, the
>> >> problem with CMOS or the file problem ("atmsy.drv lmouse.drv, etc)?? Should
>> >> I proceed to install a new battery in view of everything?? Thanks
>> >> --
>> >> LJB
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "glee" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Is the BIOS setup Soft Menu showing the correct processor? If so, when you
>> >>> did
>> >>> the
>> >>> "routine", did you Load Setup Defaults (or Optimized Defaults...the language
>> >>> may
>> >>> vary)? The idea is to NOT load the "BIOS defaults" or "FailSafe Defaults".
>> >>>
>> >>> If you do replace the battery, you need to be very careful not to break the
>> >>> battery
>> >>> holder or its clips.
>> >>>
>> >>> You must use the exact battery number replacement...the most common is the
>> >>> CR2032
>> >>> Lithium battery.
>> >>>
>> >>> You must turn off AND UNPLUG the computer first.
>> >>>
>> >>> You must follow proper ESD procedures to avoid ElectroStatic Discharge from
>> >>> your
>> >>> body that could damage you motherboard's electronics.
>> >>>
>> >>> After replacing the battery, you may need to Load Optimized Defaults in the
>> >>> BIOS
>> >>> setup again, and also make sure the correct processor is being shown, then
>> >>> Exit
>> >>> Saving Changes.
>> >>>
>> >>> How to Avoid Destroying a Computer With Electrostatic Discharge
>> >>> http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Destroying-a-Computer-With-Electrostatic-Discharge
>> >>>
>> >>> What is ESD or ElectroStatic Discharge
>> >>> http://www.computerhope.com/esd.htm
>> >>>
>> >>> How to replace the CMOS battery
>> >>> http://www.cybertechhelp.com/tutorial/article/how-to-replace-the-cmos-battery
>> >>>
>> >>> CMOS battery 2032
>> >>> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&q=CMOS+battery+2032&um=1&ie=UTF-8
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> >>> news:835B9238-F568-4166-9F1A-33221AEC4C93@microsoft.com...
>> >>> > Hi Glen,
>> >>> > I tried the "exit with savings" routine but the boot window continues to
>> >>> > show that the CPU is unworkable or has been changed.
>> >>> > The processor is a Pentium III 450 MHz. I'll try to find the battery for
>> >>> > replacement. I've not done that before but believe I have seen it on the
>> >>> > motherboard. Thanks for the input.
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > LJB
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Replies inline....
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "LewB" <whoislew@hotmail.com(sparethespam)> wrote in message
>> >>> >> news:7DA990A9-2165-4BAA-A1B5-F032CD4E0C5D@microsoft.com...
>> >>> >> >I am trying to rescue some old files from a computer that has Win98 SE as
>> >>> >> >the
>> >>> >> > OS. The computer did function until recently and I obviously did
>> >>> >> > something
>> >>> >> > wrong. Now when I power up this error message immediately comes on:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "CPU is unworkable or has been changed. Please recheck-CPU SOFT MENU
>> >>> >> > Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
>> >>> >> > Award Modular BIOS v4.5lPG, An Energy Star Ally
>> >>> >> > Pentium III CPU at 300 MHz"
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > If I go into CMOS via DEL there is a CPU SOFT MENU II but there is
>> >>> >> > nothing
>> >>> >> > there to effect a change only lists the CPU operating Speed and power
>> >>> >> > supply.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The BIOS setup program has forgotten what processor is installed. The Soft
>> >>> >> Menu
>> >>> >> allows you to choose the processor speed. It sounds like your CMOS battery
>> >>> >> may
>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >> dying, causing the system to lose its settings.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Often just entering the BIOS setup, then choosing the option to Exit Saving
>> >>> >> Changes
>> >>> >> (even though you made no changes) will allow the system to properly detect
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> processor again. You may need to also load setup (or optimized) defaults
>> >>> >> in
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> BIOS setup.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> You may need to replace the CMOS battery on the motherboard (usually a
>> >>> >> coin-type
>> >>> >> battery), then enter the BIOS setup and load setup (or optimized) defaults,
>> >>> >> save
>> >>> >> changes and exit.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Do you happen to know what processor is installed?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > If I click the F1 button the computer goes to the brief Windows welcome
>> >>> >> > screen and then to another screen that is this:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows or a
>> >>> >> > Widows application.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > The windows registry or SYSTEM.INI file refers to this device file, but
>> >>> >> > the device file no longer exists.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > If you deleted this file on purpose, try uninstalling the associated
>> >>> >> > application using its uninstall or setup program.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > If you still want to use the application associated with this device
>> >>> >> > file, try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > asivmsvc.vxd"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> In answer to this portion of your question, asivmsvc.vxd is a NEC printer
>> >>> >> driver
>> >>> >> file.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Once you get the system working you can reinstall the NEC printer driver
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> software from its disc, or from a download from the NEC support site. If
>> >>> >> you
>> >>> >> no
>> >>> >> longer use and had removed the NEC printer, after reinstalling it you can
>> >>> >> correctly
>> >>> >> uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs or via the Uninstall shortcut on the
>> >>> >> NEC
>> >>> >> printer's Start Menu> Programs menu. Don't just remove the printer from
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> Printers control panel.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The error messge does not affect the running of your system, so it is not
>> >>> >> critical
>> >>> >> to fix right now.....your other problems need to be handled first. See
>> >>> >> Brian's
>> >>> >> reply for the atmsys error.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > If I click any key the next screen is very brief but I was able to catch
>> >>> >> > it
>> >>> >> > with a camera and it reads: "error loading: atmsys.drv"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> As mentioned by Brian, open the system.ini file in Safe Mode, with Notepad
>> >>> >> or
>> >>> >> Sysedit.
>> >>> >> Under the [boot] heading, change the line:
>> >>> >> system.drv=atmsys.drv
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> system.drv=system.drv
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > The system then shuts down but if I reboot I have a new screen that
>> >>> >> > allows
>> >>> >> > me to go into the safe mode. But there are only basic drivers here and I
>> >>> >> > can't do much. I have gone to the HELP section in safe mode and tried
>> >>> >> > several of the suggestions that have not resolved the problem.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I want to reinstall Windows98 SE but in the Safe Mode the system does not
>> >>> >> > seem to recognize my CD drive. I know this is a long winded piece but I
>> >>> >> > appreciate any help from you experts in cyberspace. Thanks.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
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