Install Win98 SE

[Henry]

I have a CTS computer that has WinXP on it. I want to wipe the hard
drive clean and install Win98 and then Win98 SE. I know how to
reformat it, but will someone please tell me how to get Win98 SE on
the empty hard drive?

Thanks

Henry

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Why are you going to load Win98 and then Win98SE? Are you going to be
dual-booting or do you simply intend to upgrade to SE from the original
flavor? If the latter, you don't need to load Win98 first. Just load Win98SE
directly. You simply show Setup your original Win98 CD when prompted.

Here's how I do clean installs.

1. Boot to floppy startup disk.

2. Use FDISK if necessary to destroy/create partitions as needed.
Personally, if I'm going to dual-boot or create complicated partition
structures, I use BootIt NG, instead.

3. Format the primary partition (the one that's going to be the system
partition, C:\.) Use the following command:
FORMAT C:\ /S
(If not the /S switch, then run SYS C: command after formatting.)

4. Make a new directory to store the installation files:
MD C:\WIN98

5. Copy the installation files to the hard drive (assumes your CD drive is
E:\)
COPY E:\WIN98\*.* C:\WIN98 (two spaces there, before E:\ and before C:\)

6. When the copying is finished, remove CD and floppy disks and then reboot.
You should end up with a C:\> prompt. Run the following commands:
CD WIN98
SETUP

7. When installation is finished, install antivirus immediately, then
install all Windows Updates.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Henry" <wa0goz@arrl.net> wrote in message
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>I have a CTS computer that has WinXP on it. I want to wipe the hard drive
>clean and install Win98 and then Win98 SE. I know how to reformat it, but
>will someone please tell me how to get Win98 SE on the empty hard drive?
>
> Thanks
>
> Henry

 

[Henry]

Thanks Gary. Yes I only have the Win98 and the Win98 SE disks so I
thought I had to run the Win98 first.

In you last item you said to install the Windows updates. Is there a
place I can get them all please? I understand (perhaps wrongly) that
you can no longer get them from Microsoft.

Henry

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Why are you going to load Win98 and then Win98SE? Are you going to be
> dual-booting or do you simply intend to upgrade to SE from the original
> flavor? If the latter, you don't need to load Win98 first. Just load Win98SE
> directly. You simply show Setup your original Win98 CD when prompted.
>
> Here's how I do clean installs.
>
> 1. Boot to floppy startup disk.
>
> 2. Use FDISK if necessary to destroy/create partitions as needed.
> Personally, if I'm going to dual-boot or create complicated partition
> structures, I use BootIt NG, instead.
>
> 3. Format the primary partition (the one that's going to be the system
> partition, C:\.) Use the following command:
> FORMAT C:\ /S
> (If not the /S switch, then run SYS C: command after formatting.)
>
> 4. Make a new directory to store the installation files:
> MD C:\WIN98
>
> 5. Copy the installation files to the hard drive (assumes your CD drive is
> E:\)
> COPY E:\WIN98\*.* C:\WIN98 (two spaces there, before E:\ and before C:\)
>
> 6. When the copying is finished, remove CD and floppy disks and then reboot.
> You should end up with a C:\> prompt. Run the following commands:
> CD WIN98
> SETUP
>
> 7. When installation is finished, install antivirus immediately, then
> install all Windows Updates.
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

You can still get Windows Updates for Win98 online, but you need to install
IE6, first. (IE5.5 may also work.) What I have is the Feb. 2004 Security
Updates CD and another CD with all the rest of the updates. I give them to
people for $3 to cover costs. Email me at updates_at_grystmill.com if you
want a set.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Henry" <wa0goz@arrl.net> wrote in message
news:TPGdnSde5aRm9sXanZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Thanks Gary. Yes I only have the Win98 and the Win98 SE disks so I
> thought I had to run the Win98 first.
>
> In you last item you said to install the Windows updates. Is there a
> place I can get them all please? I understand (perhaps wrongly) that you
> can no longer get them from Microsoft.
>
> Henry
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Why are you going to load Win98 and then Win98SE? Are you going to be
>> dual-booting or do you simply intend to upgrade to SE from the original
>> flavor? If the latter, you don't need to load Win98 first. Just load
>> Win98SE directly. You simply show Setup your original Win98 CD when
>> prompted.
>>
>> Here's how I do clean installs.
>>
>> 1. Boot to floppy startup disk.
>>
>> 2. Use FDISK if necessary to destroy/create partitions as needed.
>> Personally, if I'm going to dual-boot or create complicated partition
>> structures, I use BootIt NG, instead.
>>
>> 3. Format the primary partition (the one that's going to be the system
>> partition, C:\.) Use the following command:
>> FORMAT C:\ /S
>> (If not the /S switch, then run SYS C: command after formatting.)
>>
>> 4. Make a new directory to store the installation files:
>> MD C:\WIN98
>>
>> 5. Copy the installation files to the hard drive (assumes your CD drive
>> is E:\)
>> COPY E:\WIN98\*.* C:\WIN98 (two spaces there, before E:\ and before C:\)
>>
>> 6. When the copying is finished, remove CD and floppy disks and then
>> reboot. You should end up with a C:\> prompt. Run the following commands:
>> CD WIN98
>> SETUP
>>
>> 7. When installation is finished, install antivirus immediately, then
>> install all Windows Updates.
>>

 

[Henry]

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> You can still get Windows Updates for Win98 online, but you need to install
> IE6, first. (IE5.5 may also work.) What I have is the Feb. 2004 Security
> Updates CD and another CD with all the rest of the updates. I give them to
> people for $3 to cover costs. Email me at updates_at_grystmill.com if you
> want a set.
>
Gary

I have the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD from Microwave. Are any of
the updates on your other CD critical?

When I reformat the drive, since it will be for Win98, I believe I
should format it in FAT 32. Is that correct please?

Henry

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

"Henry" <wa0goz@arrl.net> wrote in message
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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> You can still get Windows Updates for Win98 online, but you need to
>> install IE6, first. (IE5.5 may also work.) What I have is the Feb. 2004
>> Security Updates CD and another CD with all the rest of the updates. I
>> give them to people for $3 to cover costs. Email me at
>> updates_at_grystmill.com if you want a set.
>>
> Gary
>
> I have the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD from Microwave. Are any of the
> updates on your other CD critical?

Yes, *most* of them are critical -- *most* of them are patches to IE6. Note
that the Security CD includes IE6. Once you install that CD, you can then go
to Windows Updates to get the rest. I created the additional CD for people
who can't get to the internet easily (or are on dial-up, et.) and against
the eventuality that Windows Updates stops offering Win9x updates.

> When I reformat the drive, since it will be for Win98, I believe I should
> format it in FAT 32. Is that correct please?

Win98 can run on FAT and FAT32 formatted partitions. FAT32 is the one
usually used. Note that you aren't asked what structures to use when you
format the partition. The structures, whether FAT, FAT32, NTFS or other, is
determined when the partition is created, before it's formatted.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

 

[98 Guy]

Re: Install Win98 SE (not necessary to install IE6)

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> >> You can still get Windows Updates for Win98 online, but you
> >> need to install IE6, first. (IE5.5 may also work.)

I was recently performing some maintainence on an old win-98se system
(it never had a network card or had never been connected to the net).

Once I had a working ethernet connection I fired up IE (5.00) and went
to WindowsUpdates. It actually worked - I was shown the list of the
several dozen updates, patches, etc. But the first item that it
wanted to download and install - before anything else - was IE 6.
After that was downloaded and installed, all the other downloads
followed.