removing win98 from dual boot setup

murray · Dec 15, 2007

Fiesta

I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
1-Two hard drives
2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would then use the freed up drive for general storage.
What must I do in order to accomplish this?

philo · Dec 15, 2007

"murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Fiesta

I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
1-Two hard drives
2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my only
OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would then use
the freed up drive for general storage.
What must I do in order to accomplish this?

You MUST leave your C: drive in place as that is where your boot files
reside...
plus removing it would change your win2k drive letter and your system would
not function.

All you really need to do is remove the win98 reference in boot.ini
and then delete anything you do not need on your C: drive that's in a folder

What MUST remain on the C: drive root would be

boot.ini
ntdetect.com
ntldr

plus your page file if it's already there...
though that can be moved *from within the contol panel* to your D: drive
if so desired

relic · Dec 15, 2007

Fiesta
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Pegasus \(MVP\) · Dec 15, 2007

FiestaTry this:
1. Copy the three hidden Win2000 boot files from C:\ to D:\
- c:\ntldr
- c:\ntdetect.com
- c:\boot.ini

2. Unhide and edit d:\boot.ini.
- Remove the Win98 reference.
- Modify the lines "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT= . . ." to rdisk(0)

3. Disconnect the Win98 disk.

4. Make the Win2000 disk the primary master disk.

5. Boot the machine with a Win98 boot disk from www.bootdisk.com.

6. Run this command: fdisk /mbr

7. Run fdisk.exe and mark the Win2000 partition active.

8. Boot the machine normally.

Note that the Windows system drive letter will still be D:
even though this partition is the one and only partition on
the disk. You cannot change this.

It is possible that Windows will boot up but that it will
continuously cycle through the logon process. Post again
if this happens. Fixing this problem would be greatly
facilitated if you had another Win2000/XP machine with a
tried and proven network connection to the Win2000 PC.

"murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message news:4763fcef$0$31127$607ed4bc@cv.net...

I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
1-Two hard drives
2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would then use the freed up drive for general storage.
What must I do in order to accomplish this?

Dave Patrick · Dec 15, 2007

Also make sure that the partition is a primary not extended partition before
beginning.

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Pegasus \(MVP\) · Dec 15, 2007

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Also make sure that the partition is a primary not extended partition
> before beginning.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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Good point - I overlooked this one.

GHalleck · Dec 15, 2007

murray wrote:

> I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
> 1-Two hard drives
> 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
> 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
> I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my
> only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would
> then use the freed up drive for general storage.
> What must I do in order to accomplish this?
>

There is no easy nor quick way of doing this. If the installation
disks and files for all of the applications are still available, then
do a new, clean install of Windows 2000 to Drive C. This frees up
Drive D for general storage.

The otherwise alternative is to follow Philo's suggestion. After
removing Windows 98 from Drive C, then it can be used for storage
(instead of D).

Another alternative would be to retain the dual-boot and use an
external, USB drive for storage. There might come that rare occasion
when one might have wished at keeping the dual-boot in existence.

Robert Baer · Dec 15, 2007

murray wrote:

>
>
> I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
> 1-Two hard drives
> 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
> 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
> I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my
> only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would
> then use the freed up drive for general storage.
> What must I do in order to accomplish this?
>
1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same
or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.
2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.
That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on
the Win98 HD.
No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.
Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what you
need from the original.
Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD, keeping
the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.
Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working HD.
When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can become a
spare BACKUP HD.

hmmmmmm · Dec 16, 2007

i haven't tried this myself but....

is it possible to swap the master / slave pins on each drive
around and to make the win2k drive "master" or "C" drive?

then maybe try doing a "ERD" (?) and "repair" the win2k drive's
bootsector settings etc. so it start's up normally on bootup?

that could make your win2k drive the new "C" startup drive
and keep all your existing win2k files intact........and then
you could leave your old win98 drive as slave/storage etc....

dunno if this will work but making a backup of everything first
before you fart around, would be a smart move.....

my 2 cents

regards

Harry

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
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> murray wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
> > 1-Two hard drives
> > 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
> > 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
> > I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my
> > only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would
> > then use the freed up drive for general storage.
> > What must I do in order to accomplish this?
> >
> 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same
> or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.
> 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.
> That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on
> the Win98 HD.
> No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.
> Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what you
> need from the original.
> Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD, keeping
> the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.
> Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working HD.
> When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can become a
> spare BACKUP HD.
>

hmmmmmm · Dec 16, 2007

dunno if this will work but...........

couldn't you swap the master/slave pins around on the 2 disks
to make win2k the master and win98 the slave....

then maybe do an "ERD" (?) to repair the win2k setup (bootsector)
so that it boots normally.......

this could let you keep all your win2k stuff and let you keep the win98
disk as slave/storage and possibly backup disk in case the other
stuffs up.

making a backup of everything before you fart around, would also
be a smart move.....

my 2 cents

regards

Harry

"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
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> murray wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
> > 1-Two hard drives
> > 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
> > 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
> > I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my
> > only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would
> > then use the freed up drive for general storage.
> > What must I do in order to accomplish this?
> >
> 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same
> or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.
> 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.
> That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on
> the Win98 HD.
> No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.
> Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what you
> need from the original.
> Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD, keeping
> the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.
> Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working HD.
> When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can become a
> spare BACKUP HD.
>

Gazwad · Dec 16, 2007

Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com>, the decrepit-bummer and flagrant
huckle who likes adulterous non-orthogenic sex with macaws, and whose
partner is a charity girl with a tight prick pit, wrote in
<13m9brp512mmj7e@corp.supernews.com>:
> murray wrote:
>
>> I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
>> 1-Two hard drives
>> 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
>> 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
>> I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows 2000 my
>> only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I would
>> then use the freed up drive for general storage.
>> What must I do in order to accomplish this?
> 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD, same or
> larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.
> 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.
> That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files are on the
> Win98 HD.
> No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.

Does you definition of "etcetera" discount windows updates?

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Kyle · Dec 17, 2007

Master/slave settings may not be relevant if "CS" or chip select was
used for the HD settings.

The real problem is how win2k referenced the hard drives. If win2k
thought it was on the "d" drive (which is most likely the case), then
the registry will be full of path strings beginning with "d:\" and the
paths will point to non-existent files once the win98 HD is removed
from the system and the second HD becomes the boot drive, even if the
boot files are fixed properly (which might work to get win2k booted).
A repair install might get the OS working, but the other installed
programs may be lost as to where they are located on the HD, further,
the start menu will be full of old shortcuts that will point to the
wrong drive (the "d" drive instead of the "c" drive). The registry
will have countless references to the "d" drive path, and other
programs may also be lost/whacked and require reinstallation.

Perhaps the best approach if one wants to "save" the old win2k setup
is to merely edit the boot.ini file and remove the win98 reference
lines, then most all files on the win98 HD can be deleted (with the
exception of any files in the root directory). This will result in a
requirement that the win98 HD cannot be removed from the system as it
will be critical for booting.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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"hmmmmmm" <someone@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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| dunno if this will work but...........
|
| couldn't you swap the master/slave pins around on the 2 disks
| to make win2k the master and win98 the slave....
|
| then maybe do an "ERD" (?) to repair the win2k setup (bootsector)
| so that it boots normally.......
|
| this could let you keep all your win2k stuff and let you keep the
win98
| disk as slave/storage and possibly backup disk in case the other
| stuffs up.
|
| making a backup of everything before you fart around, would also
| be a smart move.....
|
| my 2 cents
|
| regards
|
| Harry
|
|
|
|
| "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message
| news:13m9brp512mmj7e@corp.supernews.com...
| > murray wrote:
| >
| > >
| > >
| > > I currently have the following Dual Boot set-up:
| > > 1-Two hard drives
| > > 2- Drive #1(Drive C) has Windows 98 installed
| > > 3- Drive #2 (Drive D) has Windows 2000 installed
| > > I would like to completely remove Windows 98 and make windows
2000 my
| > > only OS, bootable as Drive C on a single physical Hard Drive. I
would
| > > then use the freed up drive for general storage.
| > > What must I do in order to accomplish this?
| > >
| > 1) *BACKUP* the Win2K drive bymaking an exact copy to a blank HD,
same
| > or larger size, making the copy the same size as the original.
| > 2) Using that BACKUP HD, do a repair install of Win2K.
| > That should fix the problem of the Win2K initialization files
are on
| > the Win98 HD.
| > No programs, passwords, etc get changed or lost.
| > Verify that the BACKUP HD works by itself and has all of what
you
| > need from the original.
| > Use this new HD for a few months as a master / working HD,
keeping
| > the "old" drives for mister Justin Case.
| > Get yet another HD, same size for BACKUP of that new working
HD.
| > When you find no "oopsies", then the "old" Win2K drive can
become a
| > spare BACKUP HD.
| >
|
|

Pegasus \(MVP\) · Dec 17, 2007

"Kyle" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Master/slave settings may not be relevant if "CS" or chip select was
> used for the HD settings.
>
> The real problem is how win2k referenced the hard drives. If win2k
> thought it was on the "d" drive (which is most likely the case), then
> the registry will be full of path strings beginning with "d:\" and the
> paths will point to non-existent files once the win98 HD is removed
> from the system and the second HD becomes the boot drive, even if the
> boot files are fixed properly (which might work to get win2k booted).
> A repair install might get the OS working, but the other installed
> programs may be lost as to where they are located on the HD, further,
> the start menu will be full of old shortcuts that will point to the
> wrong drive (the "d" drive instead of the "c" drive). The registry
> will have countless references to the "d" drive path, and other
> programs may also be lost/whacked and require reinstallation.
>

Indeed, and that's why the drive letter D: needs to be preserved.
This can easily be achieved, even if the Win98 disk is removed
and the Win2000 disk is the only disk in the system.

removing win98 from dual boot setup

murray

philo

relic

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Dave Patrick

Pegasus \(MVP\)

GHalleck

Robert Baer

hmmmmmm

hmmmmmm

Gazwad

Kyle

Pegasus \(MVP\)

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