Floppy Disk Drive

[DaffyD®]

I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it being an
appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since the last post
for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since this is a more active
ng.

I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of the drive
itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never gotten an answer
which solved the problem. I've also googled for an answer but came up with
nada. Is this an issue I could post here? Thanks.
--
{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

 

[Brian A.]

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:OpRpPaCRIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it being an
> appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since the last post
> for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since this is a more active
> ng.
>
> I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of the drive
> itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never gotten an answer
> which solved the problem. I've also googled for an answer but came up with
> nada. Is this an issue I could post here? Thanks.
> --
> { : [|]=( DaffyD®
>
> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
>
>

Post it and ignore those who squawk.

--

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Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[MEB]

Go ahead and post it.

Now, what's the issue, installation via ribbon unable to recognize the
disk BIOS issues????

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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"DaffyD" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:OpRpPaCRIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it being an
| appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since the last post
| for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since this is a more
active
| ng.
|
| I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of the
drive
| itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never gotten an answer
| which solved the problem. I've also googled for an answer but came up with
| nada. Is this an issue I could post here? Thanks.
| --
| { : [|]=( DaffyD
|
| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
|
|

 

[PCR]

DaffyD® wrote:
| I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
| being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since
| the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since
| this is a more active ng.
|
| I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
| the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
| gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
| answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?

The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!

| Thanks. --
| { : [|]=( DaffyD®
|
| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Bill in Co.]

PCR wrote:
> DaffyD® wrote:
>> I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
>> being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since
>> the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since
>> this is a more active ng.
>>
>> I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
>> the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
>> gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
>> answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
>
> The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
> beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!

You can't post it here unless you first clear it with Dana Parino. Then
we'll know it's a "valid" request (cough).

 

[Brian A.]

urp!

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> DaffyD® wrote:
> | I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
> | being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since
> | the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since
> | this is a more active ng.
> |
> | I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
> | the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
> | gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
> | answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
>
> The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
> beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!
>
> | Thanks. --
> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®
> |
> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>

 

[glee]

Daffy,
As has already been mentioned by others, go ahead and post it here. We're waiting
for your problem description.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:OpRpPaCRIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it being an
> appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since the last post
> for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since this is a more active
> ng.
>
> I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of the drive
> itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never gotten an answer
> which solved the problem. I've also googled for an answer but came up with
> nada. Is this an issue I could post here? Thanks.
> --
> { : [|]=( DaffyD®
>
> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
>
>

 

[PCR]

Brian A. wrote:
| urp!

That proves it!

| --
|
| Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|
| Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23FR8pIDRIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> DaffyD® wrote:
|> | I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
|> | being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues.
|> | Since the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it
|> | here since this is a more active ng.
|> |
|> | I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
|> | the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
|> | gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
|> | answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
|>
|> The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
|> beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!
|>
|> | Thanks. --
|> | { : [|]=( DaffyD®
|> |
|> | If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

Bill in Co. wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> DaffyD® wrote:
|>> I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
|>> being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues.
|>> Since the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it
|>> here since this is a more active ng.
|>>
|>> I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
|>> the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
|>> gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
|>> answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
|>
|> The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
|> beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!
|
| You can't post it here unless you first clear it with Dana Parino.
| Then we'll know it's a "valid" request (cough).

Isn't she gone now? Or will Hillary bring her back in?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[DaffyD®]

If all requests need to be cleared thru Dana Perino, I'm switching to an
IMac!

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:O$QeYiDRIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> PCR wrote:
> > DaffyD® wrote:
> >> I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
> >> being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since
> >> the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since
> >> this is a more active ng.
> >>
> >> I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
> >> the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
> >> gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
> >> answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
> >
> > The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
> > beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!
>
> You can't post it here unless you first clear it with Dana Parino.
Then
> we'll know it's a "valid" request (cough).
>
>

 

[Robert Baer]

DaffyD® wrote:

> If all requests need to be cleared thru Dana Perino, I'm switching to an
> IMac!
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:O$QeYiDRIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>PCR wrote:
>>
>>>DaffyD® wrote:
>>>
>>>>I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
>>>>being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues. Since
>>>>the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it here since
>>>>this is a more active ng.
>>>>
>>>>I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
>>>>the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
>>>>gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
>>>>answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
>>>
>>>The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
>>>beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!
>>
>>You can't post it here unless you first clear it with Dana Parino.
>
> Then
>
>>we'll know it's a "valid" request (cough).
>>
>>
>
>
>
I am unable to see previous posts, so have no idea as to the "problem".
Firstly, the "A" floppy is connected at the far end of the cable,
after the twist (no, not Chubby Checkers).
There are two ways it can be connected, and unlike IDE drives, there
is *no* standard as to where pin one is on the FD wrt the power connector.
The design makes it impossible to damage either the drive or the FDC
(or equivalent).
So, assuming one makes a full and firm connection, plugging it in
"wrong" will result in that the activity light will be on and the FD
motor will run continuously (BIOS better not recognize the drive).
If you see that, "flip" the cable and you will be in business -
Ass-u-ME-ing that the FDC, the floppy and the cable are good.
The BIOS will recognize the floppy set the proper parmeters (drive
type and density), and go thru the BIOS to see that it is enabled.
I always set my computers for boot seek in this order: Floppy, CD,
IDEzero.
That way you can always boot to DOS if all else goes bad.
And one can do a heck of a lot of PM diagnostics in DOS.

 

[PCR]

Robert Baer wrote:
| DaffyD® wrote:
|
|> If all requests need to be cleared thru Dana Perino, I'm switching
|> to an IMac!
|>
|> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
|> news:O$QeYiDRIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>
|>>PCR wrote:
|>>
|>>>DaffyD® wrote:
|>>>
|>>>>I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
|>>>>being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues.
|>>>>Since the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it
|>>>>here since this is a more active ng.
|>>>>
|>>>>I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
|>>>>the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
|>>>>gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
|>>>>answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
|>>>
|>>>The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
|>>>beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!
|>>
|>>You can't post it here unless you first clear it with Dana Parino.
|>
|> Then
|>
|>>we'll know it's a "valid" request (cough).
|>>
|>>
|>
|>
|>
| I am unable to see previous posts, so have no idea as to the
| "problem".

Nobody knows what the problem is but DaffyD®-- & he still refuses to
say!

| Firstly, the "A" floppy is connected at the far end of
| the cable,
| after the twist (no, not Chubby Checkers).
| There are two ways it can be connected, and unlike IDE drives,
| there is *no* standard as to where pin one is on the FD wrt the power
| connector. The design makes it impossible to damage either the
| drive or the FDC (or equivalent).

Well, I have a friend who one day (adding a 2nd one) forced at least one
hard drive data cable in upsidedown! He defeated the purpose of the
raised notch meant to prevent that! The machine certainly wouldn't boot,
but I was amazed to see all was well once I set the cable(s) right. I
forget the wording of the error message, though.

| So, assuming one makes a full and firm connection, plugging it in
| "wrong" will result in that the activity light will be on and the FD
| motor will run continuously (BIOS better not recognize the drive).
| If you see that, "flip" the cable and you will be in business -
| Ass-u-ME-ing that the FDC, the floppy and the cable are good.
| The BIOS will recognize the floppy set the proper parmeters (drive
| type and density), and go thru the BIOS to see that it is enabled.
| I always set my computers for boot seek in this order: Floppy, CD,
| IDEzero.
| That way you can always boot to DOS if all else goes bad.
| And one can do a heck of a lot of PM diagnostics in DOS.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Robert Baer]

PCR wrote:

> Robert Baer wrote:
> | DaffyD® wrote:
> |
> |> If all requests need to be cleared thru Dana Perino, I'm switching
> |> to an IMac!
> |>
> |> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> |> news:O$QeYiDRIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |>
> |>>PCR wrote:
> |>>
> |>>>DaffyD® wrote:
> |>>>
> |>>>>I posted a question in the win98disks.general newsgroup about it
> |>>>>being an appropriate forum to address floppy disk drive issues.
> |>>>>Since the last post for that group was 12/6, I'd like to ask it
> |>>>>here since this is a more active ng.
> |>>>>
> |>>>>I run Win 98SE, but the problem I have is with the installation of
> |>>>>the drive itself. I've posted the issue in other ngs but have never
> |>>>>gotten an answer which solved the problem. I've also googled for an
> |>>>>answer but came up with nada. Is this an issue I could post here?
> |>>>
> |>>>The penalty for posting it is a hit on the head with two bottles of
> |>>>beer. But Brian A. has grabbed them all away!
> |>>
> |>>You can't post it here unless you first clear it with Dana Parino.
> |>
> |> Then
> |>
> |>>we'll know it's a "valid" request (cough).
> |>>
> |>>
> |>
> |>
> |>
> | I am unable to see previous posts, so have no idea as to the
> | "problem".
>
> Nobody knows what the problem is but DaffyD®-- & he still refuses to
> say!
>
> | Firstly, the "A" floppy is connected at the far end of
> | the cable,
> | after the twist (no, not Chubby Checkers).
> | There are two ways it can be connected, and unlike IDE drives,
> | there is *no* standard as to where pin one is on the FD wrt the power
> | connector. The design makes it impossible to damage either the
> | drive or the FDC (or equivalent).
>
> Well, I have a friend who one day (adding a 2nd one) forced at least one
> hard drive data cable in upsidedown! He defeated the purpose of the
> raised notch meant to prevent that! The machine certainly wouldn't boot,
> but I was amazed to see all was well once I set the cable(s) right. I
> forget the wording of the error message, though.
** Not the same as a floppy circuitry and pinning was not designed to
be foolproof.

>
> | So, assuming one makes a full and firm connection, plugging it in
> | "wrong" will result in that the activity light will be on and the FD
> | motor will run continuously (BIOS better not recognize the drive).
> | If you see that, "flip" the cable and you will be in business -
> | Ass-u-ME-ing that the FDC, the floppy and the cable are good.
> | The BIOS will recognize the floppy set the proper parmeters (drive
> | type and density), and go thru the BIOS to see that it is enabled.
> | I always set my computers for boot seek in this order: Floppy, CD,
> | IDEzero.
> | That way you can always boot to DOS if all else goes bad.
> | And one can do a heck of a lot of PM diagnostics in DOS.
>

 

[PCR]

Robert Baer wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|
|> Robert Baer wrote:
....snip
|> | I am unable to see previous posts, so have no idea as to the
|> | "problem".
|>
|> Nobody knows what the problem is but DaffyD®-- & he still refuses to
|> say!
|>
|> | Firstly, the "A" floppy is connected at the far end of
|> | the cable,
|> | after the twist (no, not Chubby Checkers).
|> | There are two ways it can be connected, and unlike IDE drives,
|> | there is *no* standard as to where pin one is on the FD wrt the
|> | power connector. The design makes it impossible to damage
|> | either the
|> | drive or the FDC (or equivalent).
|>
|> Well, I have a friend who one day (adding a 2nd one) forced at least
|> one hard drive data cable in upsidedown! He defeated the purpose of
|> the raised notch meant to prevent that! The machine certainly
|> wouldn't boot, but I was amazed to see all was well once I set the
|> cable(s) right. I forget the wording of the error message, though.

| ** Not the same as a floppy circuitry and pinning was not designed to
| be foolproof.

OK. I've never had to replace or unplug any floppy or CD drive. But I
thought your story sounded similar enough for me to tell of that
peculiar experience with my friend's HDD.

|> | So, assuming one makes a full and firm connection, plugging it
|> | in "wrong" will result in that the activity light will be on and
|> | the FD motor will run continuously (BIOS better not recognize the
|> | drive). If you see that, "flip" the cable and you will be in
|> | business - Ass-u-ME-ing that the FDC, the floppy and the cable are
|> | good. The BIOS will recognize the floppy set the proper
|> | parmeters (drive type and density), and go thru the BIOS to see
|> | that it is enabled. I always set my computers for boot seek in
|> | this order: Floppy, CD, IDEzero.
|> | That way you can always boot to DOS if all else goes bad.
|> | And one can do a heck of a lot of PM diagnostics in DOS.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net