virus/firewall protection

L

lutra

Hello,
I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET
SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new
subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive
suggestions???
 
P

PA Bear

<IMHO>

1. Uninstall NIS via Add/Remove Programs.

2. Run the Norton Removal Tool (Win98/WinME version):
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

3. Install ANY reliable anti-virus application OTHER THAN Norton AntiVirus
or McAfee VirusScan. I do not recommend AVG Anti-Virus (Free or Pro).

4. Install a firewall that's _supported in Win98_ (e.g.,
http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/download.php).

</IMHO>
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org

lutra wrote:
> Hello,
> I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET
> SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new
> subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive
> suggestions???
 
Y

Yetti

"lutra" wrote:

> Hello,
> I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET
> SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new
> subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive
> suggestions???
 
Y

Yetti

I still run 98SE as well !! Not to long back I was turned on to AVG 7.5 , I'm
totally won over by it's performance . After purchasing mine @ $39.00 at
Fry's Electronics a short time ago , I was just told (and it's true) you can
download it for free @ download.com . Enter Antivirus under search , scroll
down to select your operat. syst. , then click where it says liscenses and
click free , then click filter . Scroll down to different options and bingo ,
click AVG 7.5 and download away .
 
M

MEB

Definitely off topic but while you're out of your cave, I presume you are
fielding VISTA issues in your forums on AumHa?
Any specific links [specialty/specific or otherwise]?
Or web html [perhaps with a technical approach]?



"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23XZVBExyHHA.5484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| <IMHO>
|
| 1. Uninstall NIS via Add/Remove Programs.
|
| 2. Run the Norton Removal Tool (Win98/WinME version):
| http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
|
| 3. Install ANY reliable anti-virus application OTHER THAN Norton AntiVirus
| or McAfee VirusScan. I do not recommend AVG Anti-Virus (Free or Pro).
|
| 4. Install a firewall that's _supported in Win98_ (e.g.,
| http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/download.php).
|
| </IMHO>
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
| AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org
|
| lutra wrote:
| > Hello,
| > I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET
| > SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new
| > subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive
| > suggestions???
|
 
G

glee

You don't need to get it from download.com or anywhere else other than the source.
Grisoft's AVG Free Edition is available directly from Grisoft:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/download-free-anti-virus/us/frt/0
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Yetti" <Yetti@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A9E1EAF1-6C3C-440C-9C3B-9864470ED3B5@microsoft.com...
>I still run 98SE as well !! Not to long back I was turned on to AVG 7.5 , I'm
> totally won over by it's performance . After purchasing mine @ $39.00 at
> Fry's Electronics a short time ago , I was just told (and it's true) you can
> download it for free @ download.com . Enter Antivirus under search , scroll
> down to select your operat. syst. , then click where it says liscenses and
> click free , then click filter . Scroll down to different options and bingo ,
> click AVG 7.5 and download away .
 
P

PCR

lutra wrote:
| Hello,
| I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET
| SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a
| new subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other
| positive suggestions???

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW
Kerio Personal Firewall v.2.5.1

This one is free for personal use, it seems to have it all, & hasn't
crashed yet. But I'm STILL learning what to do with it! I'm getting
close, though!
 
P

PA Bear

OT: You bet! =>

Windows Vista Support Center
http://www.aumha.org/win6/

Windows Vista Support Forum
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=59
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org

MEB wrote:
> Definitely off topic but while you're out of your cave, I presume you are
> fielding VISTA issues in your forums on AumHa?
> Any specific links [specialty/specific or otherwise]?
> Or web html [perhaps with a technical approach]?
 
M

MEB

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OxCYjl6yHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| OT: You bet! =>
|
| Windows Vista Support Center
| http://www.aumha.org/win6/
|
| Windows Vista Support Forum
| http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=59
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
| AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org

Thanks Pa, I will check these [of course in another nomenclature].

I suppose one of the primary reasons for the querry, is the NEW NTFS
structure which is essentially incompatible with the XP version, and the
handling of those issues and other related installation and OS issues.

Thanks for the links..

__


Now I suppose I should question the reason for your honored opinion related
to not installing AVG, so that issue can be addressed and any related issues
can be brought to light.

|
| MEB wrote:
| > Definitely off topic but while you're out of your cave, I presume you
are
| > fielding VISTA issues in your forums on AumHa?
| > Any specific links [specialty/specific or otherwise]?
| > Or web html [perhaps with a technical approach]?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________
 
L

lutra

THANKS TO ALL FOR THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS !!!!

"PCR" wrote:

> lutra wrote:
> | Hello,
> | I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET
> | SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a
> | new subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other
> | positive suggestions???
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW
> Kerio Personal Firewall v.2.5.1
>
> This one is free for personal use, it seems to have it all, & hasn't
> crashed yet. But I'm STILL learning what to do with it! I'm getting
> close, though!
>
>
>
 
P

PCR

lutra wrote:
| THANKS TO ALL FOR THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS !!!!

You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate to
offer...

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

...., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of
Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has many
wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every archive file
during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are some archives it
DOES get into that even WinZip will not try. However, archives are
harmless until opened. At that point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner
that matters-- & there's no reason to think it won't work!

| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> lutra wrote:
|> | Hello,
|> | I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET
|> | SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for
|> | a new subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any
|> | other positive suggestions???
|>
|>
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW
|> Kerio Personal Firewall v.2.5.1
|>
|> This one is free for personal use, it seems to have it all, & hasn't
|> crashed yet. But I'm STILL learning what to do with it! I'm getting
|> close, though!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
R

Roger Fink


> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate
> to offer...
>
> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
>
> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of
> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has
> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every
> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are
> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.
> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is
> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to
> think it won't work!
>

Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to deal with
this:
http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

which you can do by viewing these:

http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically works
without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old Alka Seltzer
ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but, on balance, I'll take
it.
 
P

PCR

Roger Fink wrote:
|> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate
|> to offer...
|>
|> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
|>
|> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of
|> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has
|> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every
|> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are
|> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.
|> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is
|> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to
|> think it won't work!
|>
|
| Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to
| deal with this:
| http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
|
| which you can do by viewing these:
|
| http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
| http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm
|
| Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically
| works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old
| Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but,
| on balance, I'll take it.

I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,
anyhow.

At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

"Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.
"Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
"Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
NONE of those three is checked!

I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I believe
what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to install
the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been reversed-- it
was the NetZero setting that was checked before, possibly. So far as I
always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And it looks like I'm using
one now!

It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3 servers
somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they were...
smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF I've
actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to
allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done! I
think I've almost got it right now!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
R

Roger Fink

PCR wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate
>>> to offer...
>>>
>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
>>>
>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of
>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has
>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every
>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are
>>> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.
>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is
>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to
>>> think it won't work!
>>>
>>
>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to
>> deal with this:
>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
>>
>> which you can do by viewing these:
>>
>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm
>>
>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically
>> works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old
>> Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but,
>> on balance, I'll take it.
>
> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,
> anyhow.
>
> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...
>
> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.
> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.
>
> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
> NONE of those three is checked!
>
> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I
> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to
> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been
> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,
> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And
> it looks like I'm using one now!
>
> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3
> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they
> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF
> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.
>
> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to
> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done! I
> think I've almost got it right now!

PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative. The
reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as it did for
Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that this wasn't being
reflected in the statistics in the box, because for Webshield (only) the
scan count was always zero.

You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I would
confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned count", to make
sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective of the feel-good news
("The provider is currently running") at the top of the box.
 
P

PCR

Roger Fink wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> Roger Fink wrote:
|>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I
|>>> hesitate to offer...
|>>>
|>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
|>>>
|>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of
|>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has
|>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every
|>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there
|>>> are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.
|>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is
|>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to
|>>> think it won't work!
|>>>
|>>
|>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to
|>> deal with this:
|>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
|>>
|>> which you can do by viewing these:
|>>
|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm
|>>
|>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just
|>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow
|>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset
|>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.
|>
|> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,
|> anyhow.
|>
|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...
|>
|> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.
|> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
|> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.
|>
|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
|> NONE of those three is checked!
|>
|> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I
|> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to
|> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been
|> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,
|> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And
|> it looks like I'm using one now!
|>
|> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3
|> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they
|> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF
|> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.
|>
|> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to
|> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done!
|> I think I've almost got it right now!
|
| PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative.
| The reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as
| it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that
| this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in the box, because for
| Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.

If that's what matters, then... yea... you would be correct it isn't
working. Kerio shows AshWebSv.exe (localhost:12080) to be always
listening, but I do see zeros in all its fields, yea.

It's odd, though, I don't see NetZero (Exec.exe) on Kerio's "Opened
connections at localhost" list AT ALL-- but somehow my NET connection is
working fine! The apps there with the most activity by far are Kerio
apps. The only other one showing anything is IExplore.exe. (Exec.exe is
mentioned in the Kerio log file often enough, though.)

HOWEVER, that list is not static. Let me open an URL & see what is
added... losts more IExplore.exe pop in/out. Could be Exec.exe pops
in/out too quick for me to see it (something certainly does).

AshWebSv.exe still shows zero in its byte counts & speed numbers. But
all of the 4 AshMaiSv.exe (avast! e-Mail Scanner Service) ALSO show zero
in their counts-- yet that services is working! That is proven by...

X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

.... in the Properties, Details tab, of all posts read into this machine,
& additionally...

X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Outbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

.... is in the Properties of mine. Also, I know I cannot send or receive
any of the Eicar test viruses as an attachment, without pausing avast!'s
Internet Mail Provider first. That's for sure!

| You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I
| would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned
| count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective
| of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently running") at the
| top of the box.

I don't have a box like that in the Home Edition v.4.7. However, I can
pause & resume the various providers in a context menu. Let me pause the
WEB Shield Provider... everything looks the same in Kerio. And STILL the
virus is detected at...
http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
.... when I click either Eicar.com, which is the same as before. (The
..zipped ones, I have to open, before avast! will detect them. The .txt
ones, I have to R-Clk & scan.)

I'm not sure what to think. Can it be, if WEB Shield were actually
working, I would not have to click anything at Eicar to get the alert? I
GUESS, I will try what you say, Zabcar-- thanks. I'll get back to you
later or tomorrow.
 
P

PCR

Roger Fink wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> Roger Fink wrote:

Oops, did I call you Zabcar? You are Roger Fink, I know. Thanks, I'll
get back to you later.

|>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I
|>>> hesitate to offer...
|>>>
|>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
|>>>
|>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of
|>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has
|>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every
|>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there
|>>> are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.
|>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is
|>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to
|>>> think it won't work!
|>>>
|>>
|>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to
|>> deal with this:
|>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
|>>
|>> which you can do by viewing these:
|>>
|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm
|>>
|>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just
|>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow
|>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset
|>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.
|>
|> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,
|> anyhow.
|>
|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...
|>
|> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.
|> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
|> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.
|>
|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
|> NONE of those three is checked!
|>
|> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I
|> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to
|> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been
|> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,
|> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And
|> it looks like I'm using one now!
|>
|> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3
|> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they
|> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF
|> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.
|>
|> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to
|> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done!
|> I think I've almost got it right now!
|
| PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative.
| The reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as
| it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that
| this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in the box, because for
| Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.
|
| You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I
| would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned
| count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective
| of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently running") at the
| top of the box.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

PCR wrote:
| Roger Fink wrote:
|| PCR wrote:
||> Roger Fink wrote:
||>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I
||>>> hesitate to offer...
||>>>
||>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
||>>>
||>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some
||>>> of Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise
||>>> & has many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into
||>>> every archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side,
||>>> there are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will
||>>> not try. However, archives are harmless until opened. At that
||>>> point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's
||>>> no reason to think it won't work!
||>>>
||>>
||>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to
||>> deal with this:
||>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
||>>
||>> which you can do by viewing these:
||>>
||>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
||>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm
||>>
||>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just
||>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow
||>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset
||>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.
||>
||> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,
||> anyhow.
||>
||> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...
||>
||> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.
||> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
||> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.
||>
||> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
||> NONE of those three is checked!
||>
||> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I
||> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected
||> to install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been
||> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,
||> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN.
||> And it looks like I'm using one now!
||>
||> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3
||> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they
||> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF
||> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.
||>
||> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to
||> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done!
||> I think I've almost got it right now!
||
|| PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative.
|| The reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as
|| it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that
|| this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in the box, because for
|| Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.
|
| If that's what matters, then... yea... you would be correct it isn't
| working. Kerio shows AshWebSv.exe (localhost:12080) to be always
| listening, but I do see zeros in all its fields, yea.
|
| It's odd, though, I don't see NetZero (Exec.exe) on Kerio's "Opened
| connections at localhost" list AT ALL-- but somehow my NET connection
| is working fine! The apps there with the most activity by far are
| Kerio apps. The only other one showing anything is IExplore.exe.
| (Exec.exe is mentioned in the Kerio log file often enough, though.)
|
| HOWEVER, that list is not static. Let me open an URL & see what is
| added... losts more IExplore.exe pop in/out. Could be Exec.exe pops
| in/out too quick for me to see it (something certainly does).
|
| AshWebSv.exe still shows zero in its byte counts & speed numbers. But
| all of the 4 AshMaiSv.exe (avast! e-Mail Scanner Service) ALSO show
| zero in their counts-- yet that services is working! That is proven
| by...
|
| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Inbound message
| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|
| ... in the Properties, Details tab, of all posts read into this
| machine, & additionally...
|
| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Outbound message
| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
|
| ... is in the Properties of mine. Also, I know I cannot send or
| receive any of the Eicar test viruses as an attachment, without
| pausing avast!'s Internet Mail Provider first. That's for sure!
|
|| You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I
|| would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned
|| count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective
|| of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently running") at the
|| top of the box.
|
| I don't have a box like that in the Home Edition v.4.7. However, I can
| pause & resume the various providers in a context menu. Let me pause
| the WEB Shield Provider... everything looks the same in Kerio. And
| STILL the virus is detected at...
| http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
| ... when I click either Eicar.com, which is the same as before. (The
| .zipped ones, I have to open, before avast! will detect them. The .txt
| ones, I have to R-Clk & scan.)
|
| I'm not sure what to think. Can it be, if WEB Shield were actually
| working, I would not have to click anything at Eicar to get the
| alert? I GUESS, I will try what you say, Zabcar-- thanks. I'll get
| back to you later or tomorrow.

UPDATE... OK, I made the change...

At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

"Automatically detect settings".......... is unchecked.
"Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
"Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is checked.
............................................ Address: localhost
............................................ Port: 12080

I need to evaluate it further. I STILL have 4 AshMaiSv.exe & 1
AshWebSv.exe in Kerio "listening" & showing ZEROS as before. I'm hoping
a reboot will eliminate them.

But, NOW I've got 2 MORE AshMaiSv.exe & 1 MORE AshWebSv.exe that DO seem
to be functioning. They pop in/out of the list as necessary, it seems,
when I click an URL.

The Eicar site seems to work better. Now, every one of the 4 "standard
protocol http" will trigger an avast! alert when clicked, not just the
..com.

The 4 "secure, SSL enabled protocol https" work as before-- the .com
only will trigger the alert when clicked. The .txt must be R-Clkd &
scanned after the download to trigger it. The .zip's must be unpacked
first. Additionally, once the "secure" Eicar.com.txt is read in this
way, the "standard" .txt will revert to behaving like that too-- until
Eicar.com.txt is deleted.

SO... that's lots better (I guess), thanks a lot, Fink (but you should
change that name to Zabcar). You've been invaluable!
 
R

Roger Fink

PCR wrote:
> PCR wrote:
>> Roger Fink wrote:
>>> PCR wrote:
>>>> Roger Fink wrote:
>>>>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I
>>>>>> hesitate to offer...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some
>>>>>> of Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise
>>>>>> & has many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into
>>>>>> every archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side,
>>>>>> there are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will
>>>>>> not try. However, archives are harmless until opened. At that
>>>>>> point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's
>>>>>> no reason to think it won't work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to
>>>>> deal with this:
>>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
>>>>>
>>>>> which you can do by viewing these:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
>>>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just
>>>>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow
>>>>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset
>>>>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.
>>>>
>>>> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not
>>>> manually, anyhow.
>>>>
>>>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...
>>>>
>>>> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.
>>>> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
>>>> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.
>>>>
>>>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
>>>> NONE of those three is checked!
>>>>
>>>> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I
>>>> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected
>>>> to install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have
>>>> been reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,
>>>> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN.
>>>> And it looks like I'm using one now!
>>>>
>>>> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3
>>>> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said
>>>> they were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively.
>>>> Even IF I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working
>>>> with that.
>>>>
>>>> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to
>>>> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have
>>>> done! I think I've almost got it right now!
>>>
>>> PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was
>>> operative. The reason was because when I opened up the display, it
>>> said so!, as it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I
>>> soon noticed that this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in
>>> the box, because for Webshield (only) the scan count was always
>>> zero.
>>
>> If that's what matters, then... yea... you would be correct it isn't
>> working. Kerio shows AshWebSv.exe (localhost:12080) to be always
>> listening, but I do see zeros in all its fields, yea.
>>
>> It's odd, though, I don't see NetZero (Exec.exe) on Kerio's "Opened
>> connections at localhost" list AT ALL-- but somehow my NET connection
>> is working fine! The apps there with the most activity by far are
>> Kerio apps. The only other one showing anything is IExplore.exe.
>> (Exec.exe is mentioned in the Kerio log file often enough, though.)
>>
>> HOWEVER, that list is not static. Let me open an URL & see what is
>> added... losts more IExplore.exe pop in/out. Could be Exec.exe pops
>> in/out too quick for me to see it (something certainly does).
>>
>> AshWebSv.exe still shows zero in its byte counts & speed numbers. But
>> all of the 4 AshMaiSv.exe (avast! e-Mail Scanner Service) ALSO show
>> zero in their counts-- yet that services is working! That is proven
>> by...
>>
>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Inbound message
>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>
>> ... in the Properties, Details tab, of all posts read into this
>> machine, & additionally...
>>
>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Outbound message
>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
>>
>> ... is in the Properties of mine. Also, I know I cannot send or
>> receive any of the Eicar test viruses as an attachment, without
>> pausing avast!'s Internet Mail Provider first. That's for sure!
>>
>>> You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I
>>> would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned
>>> count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything,
>>> irrespective of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently
>>> running") at the top of the box.
>>
>> I don't have a box like that in the Home Edition v.4.7. However, I
>> can pause & resume the various providers in a context menu. Let me
>> pause the WEB Shield Provider... everything looks the same in Kerio.
>> And STILL the virus is detected at...
>> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
>> ... when I click either Eicar.com, which is the same as before. (The
>> .zipped ones, I have to open, before avast! will detect them. The
>> .txt ones, I have to R-Clk & scan.)
>>
>> I'm not sure what to think. Can it be, if WEB Shield were actually
>> working, I would not have to click anything at Eicar to get the
>> alert? I GUESS, I will try what you say, Zabcar-- thanks. I'll get
>> back to you later or tomorrow.
>
> UPDATE... OK, I made the change...
>
> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
>
> "Automatically detect settings".......... is unchecked.
> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is checked.
> ........................................... Address: localhost
> ........................................... Port: 12080
>
> I need to evaluate it further. I STILL have 4 AshMaiSv.exe & 1
> AshWebSv.exe in Kerio "listening" & showing ZEROS as before. I'm
> hoping a reboot will eliminate them.
>
> But, NOW I've got 2 MORE AshMaiSv.exe & 1 MORE AshWebSv.exe that DO
> seem to be functioning. They pop in/out of the list as necessary, it
> seems, when I click an URL.
>
> The Eicar site seems to work better. Now, every one of the 4 "standard
> protocol http" will trigger an avast! alert when clicked, not just the
> .com.
>
> The 4 "secure, SSL enabled protocol https" work as before-- the .com
> only will trigger the alert when clicked. The .txt must be R-Clkd &
> scanned after the download to trigger it. The .zip's must be unpacked
> first. Additionally, once the "secure" Eicar.com.txt is read in this
> way, the "standard" .txt will revert to behaving like that too-- until
> Eicar.com.txt is deleted.
>
> SO... that's lots better (I guess), thanks a lot, Fink (but you should
> change that name to Zabcar). You've been invaluable!

There's only one Zabcar (sic) on this board, no need to dilute/corrupt his
legacy with a dilettante. Right after this post I'm going to post a
screenshot of the Avast pane with the scan count on it, hopefully the
moderator will allow it. It's just a simple left click of the Avast tray
icon.
 
R

Roger Fink


> .......Right after this post
> I'm going to post a screenshot of the Avast pane with the scan count
> on it, hopefully the moderator will allow it. It's just a simple left
> click of the Avast tray icon.

Sorry, image was 76kb but the news server wouldn't accept it. Tried twice.
 
G

glee

"Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message
news:eh2EkWJzHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
> PCR wrote:
>> Roger Fink wrote:
>>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate
>>>> to offer...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)
>>>>
>>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of
>>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has
>>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every
>>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are
>>>> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.
>>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is
>>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to
>>>> think it won't work!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to
>>> deal with this:
>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869
>>>
>>> which you can do by viewing these:
>>>
>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm
>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm
>>>
>>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically
>>> works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old
>>> Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but,
>>> on balance, I'll take it.
>>
>> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,
>> anyhow.
>>
>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...
>>
>> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.
>> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.
>> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.
>>
>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...
>> NONE of those three is checked!
>>
>> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I
>> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to
>> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been
>> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,
>> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And
>> it looks like I'm using one now!
>>
>> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3
>> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they
>> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF
>> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.
>>
>> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to
>> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done! I
>> think I've almost got it right now!
>
> PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative. The
> reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as it did for
> Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that this wasn't being
> reflected in the statistics in the box, because for Webshield (only) the
> scan count was always zero.
>
> You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I would
> confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned count", to make
> sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective of the feel-good news
> ("The provider is currently running") at the top of the box.

Good links, Roger. You're correct about Avast WebShield not actually doing anything
in Win9x unless you manually set the proxy settings in each browser used, to
localhost and port 12080

However, in my admittedly limited testing of WebShield used this way in Win98SE, I
found that installing the module, enabling it, and setting my browsers as described
slowed down my broadband connection on that computer, by sometimes as much as 50%
and generally about 30%....using Roadrunner cable from Time-Warner.

I have found it not worth installing the WebShield module at all, since I am fairly
strict about what I allow to run in my browser, re: Javascript, ActiveX and so
forth. YMMV.

What type of Internet connection do you have, and do you see a speed difference when
enabling WebShield? I am using www.speakeasy.net/speedtest to compare.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
 
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