4GB file size limit in Windows 98SE?

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Warren

I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an error
message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this Windows
98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?

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Bill in Co.

It is a FAT32 based limitation (and any operating systems that use it,
including Win98SE). Windows XP and NFTS won't have that problem.

If you can find an application that can split the ISO file into smaller
sized chunks, and use it that way, that might be a solution. (I'm not
sure if that is possible, though).

Warren wrote:
> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
> error
> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
> Windows
> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
>
> --
> Warren
>
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Bob Harris

ISO is generally an image of a CD (or a DVD). But, inside that image are
usually several to many smaller files.

Check to see whether the application you are using to make the ISO file has
an option to split it into pieces.

Or, possibly think about saving in some other format that supports multiple
files of user-detemrined size. For example, try 7-zips, free at:
http://www.7-zip.org/.


"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>error
> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
> Windows
> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
>
> --
> Warren
>
> No spam address used. Please reply to group only.
>
>
 
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Bill in Co.

If it's an ISO for a DVD, are you talking about the .VOB files? If so, I
thought it was almost standard procedure for program applications to limit
those to 1 GB max for each VOB file. Maybe not. ??

Bob Harris wrote:
> ISO is generally an image of a CD (or a DVD). But, inside that image are
> usually several to many smaller files.
>
> Check to see whether the application you are using to make the ISO file
> has
> an option to split it into pieces.
>
> Or, possibly think about saving in some other format that supports
> multiple
> files of user-detemrined size. For example, try 7-zips, free at:
> http://www.7-zip.org/.
>
>
> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uAmjVIUYIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>> error
>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
>> Windows
>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
>>
>> --
>> Warren
>>
>> No spam address used. Please reply to group only.
 
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Warren

Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The vob files
are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the burning program
several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23BvIE9YYIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> If it's an ISO for a DVD, are you talking about the .VOB files? If so, I
> thought it was almost standard procedure for program applications to limit
> those to 1 GB max for each VOB file. Maybe not. ??
>
> Bob Harris wrote:
> > ISO is generally an image of a CD (or a DVD). But, inside that image

are
> > usually several to many smaller files.
> >
> > Check to see whether the application you are using to make the ISO file
> > has
> > an option to split it into pieces.
> >
> > Or, possibly think about saving in some other format that supports
> > multiple
> > files of user-detemrined size. For example, try 7-zips, free at:
> > http://www.7-zip.org/.
> >
> >
> > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:uAmjVIUYIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
> >> error
> >> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
> >> Windows
> >> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Warren
> >>
> >> No spam address used. Please reply to group only.

>
>
 
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Bill in Co.

I don't know if it can be done. Someone else will have to address this.
But one thing is certain: you can't exceed 4 GB for a single file using
FAT32.

Warren wrote:
> Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The vob
> files
> are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the burning program
> several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23BvIE9YYIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> If it's an ISO for a DVD, are you talking about the .VOB files? If so,
>> I
>> thought it was almost standard procedure for program applications to
>> limit
>> those to 1 GB max for each VOB file. Maybe not. ??
>>
>> Bob Harris wrote:
>>> ISO is generally an image of a CD (or a DVD). But, inside that image
>>> are
>>> usually several to many smaller files.
>>>
>>> Check to see whether the application you are using to make the ISO file
>>> has
>>> an option to split it into pieces.
>>>
>>> Or, possibly think about saving in some other format that supports
>>> multiple
>>> files of user-detemrined size. For example, try 7-zips, free at:
>>> http://www.7-zip.org/.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uAmjVIUYIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>>>> error
>>>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
>>>> Windows
>>>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>> No spam address used. Please reply to group only.
 
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AlmostBob

My nero does not need an ISO make the disk, it burns the vob file structure

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"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I don't know if it can be done. Someone else will have to address this.
> But one thing is certain: you can't exceed 4 GB for a single file using
> FAT32.
>
> Warren wrote:
> > Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The vob
> > files
> > are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the burning program
> > several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.
> >
> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:%23BvIE9YYIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> If it's an ISO for a DVD, are you talking about the .VOB files? If

so,
> >> I
> >> thought it was almost standard procedure for program applications to
> >> limit
> >> those to 1 GB max for each VOB file. Maybe not. ??
> >>
> >> Bob Harris wrote:
> >>> ISO is generally an image of a CD (or a DVD). But, inside that image
> >>> are
> >>> usually several to many smaller files.
> >>>
> >>> Check to see whether the application you are using to make the ISO

file
> >>> has
> >>> an option to split it into pieces.
> >>>
> >>> Or, possibly think about saving in some other format that supports
> >>> multiple
> >>> files of user-detemrined size. For example, try 7-zips, free at:
> >>> http://www.7-zip.org/.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:uAmjVIUYIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received

an
> >>>> error
> >>>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
> >>>> Windows
> >>>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Warren
> >>>>
> >>>> No spam address used. Please reply to group only.

>
>
 
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dadiOH

Warren wrote:
> Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The
> vob files are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the
> burning program several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.


The simplest thing is to use DVDShrink to make the ISO smaller.


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Bill in Co.

Can it do that to an ISO file? By how much?

dadiOH wrote:
> Warren wrote:
>> Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The
>> vob files are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the
>> burning program several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.

>
> The simplest thing is to use DVDShrink to make the ISO smaller.
>
>
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Otto Sykora

It widely depend on what you have in the iso.

If the iso contains just files , one can shrink it all. But if you have for
example an installation DVD of a Linux(bootable) like Opensuse 10.3, there is
absolutely no way to make any chnages to it because after smallest change
nothing will work any more and it might even not boot any more. Such DVD can
not be made of any volumes etc, simply one file. And such file will not be
handeld by any FAT, and also can not be copied or downloaded by IE of any
flavor and many other software.
It can be stored to NTFS, provided one has a suitable tool allowing to
handle it.



"Bill in Co." wrote:

> Can it do that to an ISO file? By how much?
>
> dadiOH wrote:
> > Warren wrote:
> >> Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The
> >> vob files are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the
> >> burning program several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.

> >
> > The simplest thing is to use DVDShrink to make the ISO smaller.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > dadiOH
> > ____________________________
> >
> > dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
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>
>
>
 
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dadiOH

In OP's case - a DVD movie - by whatever amount necessary.

dadiOH
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Bill in Co. wrote:
> Can it do that to an ISO file? By how much?
>
> dadiOH wrote:
>> Warren wrote:
>>> Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The
>>> vob files are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the
>>> burning program several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.

>>
>> The simplest thing is to use DVDShrink to make the ISO smaller.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> dadiOH
>> ____________________________
>>
>> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
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>> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
>> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
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Lil' Dave

Only file size limitation I remember when rendering was that of 2GB
including overhead for ISO 9660 format. Had nothing to do with FAT32 or
what not. All of my response has nothing to do with the originally
formatted question regarding FAT32/Win98SE/4GB file size limitation.

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"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> If it's an ISO for a DVD, are you talking about the .VOB files? If so, I
> thought it was almost standard procedure for program applications to limit
> those to 1 GB max for each VOB file. Maybe not. ??
>
> Bob Harris wrote:
>> ISO is generally an image of a CD (or a DVD). But, inside that image are
>> usually several to many smaller files.
>>
>> Check to see whether the application you are using to make the ISO file
>> has
>> an option to split it into pieces.
>>
>> Or, possibly think about saving in some other format that supports
>> multiple
>> files of user-detemrined size. For example, try 7-zips, free at:
>> http://www.7-zip.org/.
>>
>>
>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:uAmjVIUYIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>>> error
>>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
>>> Windows
>>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warren
>>>
>>> No spam address used. Please reply to group only.

>
>
 
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Warren

That's an excellent point, I forgot about that capability of Nero.

"AlmostBob" <anonymous1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My nero does not need an ISO make the disk, it burns the vob file

structure
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> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:uNtgOygYIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > I don't know if it can be done. Someone else will have to address

this.
> > But one thing is certain: you can't exceed 4 GB for a single file using
> > FAT32.
> >
> > Warren wrote:
> > > Yes it is a DVD image that I'm trying to burn to a DVD disk. The vob
> > > files
> > > are no bigger than 1 GB but I'm not sure how to feed the burning

program
> > > several portions of an Iso.? Never heard of that.
> > >
> > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:%23BvIE9YYIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> If it's an ISO for a DVD, are you talking about the .VOB files? If

> so,
> > >> I
> > >> thought it was almost standard procedure for program applications to
> > >> limit
> > >> those to 1 GB max for each VOB file. Maybe not. ??
> > >>
> > >> Bob Harris wrote:
> > >>> ISO is generally an image of a CD (or a DVD). But, inside that

image
> > >>> are
> > >>> usually several to many smaller files.
> > >>>
> > >>> Check to see whether the application you are using to make the ISO

> file
> > >>> has
> > >>> an option to split it into pieces.
> > >>>
> > >>> Or, possibly think about saving in some other format that supports
> > >>> multiple
> > >>> files of user-detemrined size. For example, try 7-zips, free at:
> > >>> http://www.7-zip.org/.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > >>> news:uAmjVIUYIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > >>>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received

> an
> > >>>> error
> > >>>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is

this
> > >>>> Windows
> > >>>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Warren
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No spam address used. Please reply to group only.

> >
> >

>
>
 
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Lord Turkey Cough

"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>error
> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
> Windows
> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?


Yes Linux.

>
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>
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... et al.

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:

> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>> error
>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
>> Windows
>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?

>
> Yes Linux.
>


Actually, to overcome this limitation of FAT32, i've been
wondering if Win98xE can use an ext2 volume if there exists an
ext2 driver for Windows' 'Installable File System'.

( Like this WinNT-only software.
'Ext2 Installable File System for Windows':
<http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html> )

Does such a driver exist?


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Bob Harris

PARAGON seems to have read-write NTFS drivers for win98, and these are not
too expensive.

They also have drivers to read-write to/from EXT2/3 from win98.

http://www.mount-everything.com/home/index.htm

"... et al." <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>>> error
>>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
>>> Windows
>>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?

>>
>> Yes Linux.
>>

>
> Actually, to overcome this limitation of FAT32, i've been wondering if
> Win98xE can use an ext2 volume if there exists an ext2 driver for Windows'
> 'Installable File System'.
>
> ( Like this WinNT-only software.
> 'Ext2 Installable File System for Windows':
> <http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html> )
>
> Does such a driver exist?
>
>
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>
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... et al.

Bob Harris wrote:

> PARAGON seems to have read-write NTFS drivers for win98, and these are not
> too expensive.
>
> They also have drivers to read-write to/from EXT2/3 from win98.
>
> http://www.mount-everything.com/home/index.htm
>


Great. Thanks for the link. So it's doable also under Win98SE then.

Personally i haven't come in contact with files much over 1 GB
yet, from what i've seen on both Game- and Movie- DVDs it seems
files are split at 1 GB. I try to make CD-Images to use when
playing games but haven't made that for DVDs yet because i use
FAT32 for both Win98SE and WinXP and just recently found the
software i mentioned below.


> "... et al." wrote:
>
>> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>>
>>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was trying to create an "Iso" file greater than 4 GB and received an
>>>> error
>>>> message that FAT32 does not support files greater than 4GB. Is this
>>>> Windows
>>>> 98 limitation, and if so is there a fix ?
>>> Yes Linux.
>>>

>> Actually, to overcome this limitation of FAT32, i've been wondering if
>> Win98xE can use an ext2 volume if there exists an ext2 driver for Windows'
>> 'Installable File System'.
>>
>> ( Like this WinNT-only software.
>> 'Ext2 Installable File System for Windows':
>> <http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html> )
>>
>> Does such a driver exist?
>>



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