Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?

J

Jack

Thank you for your replies.
I am more and more worrying about that file.
It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
renamed file is there too of course).
I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do in
my computer!!!!

There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that file
is placed in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
and in
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that key
is back there!!!!
I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
detects nothing wrong!

If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
that way? Something is not right here.
Any thoughts on that?
Jack

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for your explanation.
> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc
> has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not
> acknowledge.
> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
> Jack
>
> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by
>> Windows.
>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista
>> (all
>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file. Depending
>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007,
>> but
>> it does not install the file.
>>
>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to
>> remove
>> it.
>>
>> Sloan Crayton
>> Microsoft
>>
>> --------------------
>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
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>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
>> |
>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
>> | I use Office 2007
>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on
>> user
>> | computers???
>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation performed
>> in
>> | Windows (outside the Office).
>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed
>> yesterday!
>> | Jack
>> |
>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in
>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
>> questions
>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How
>> to
>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition features
>> in
>> | > Office XP".
>> | >
>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the speech
>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office 2003".
>> | >
>> | > Jack wrote:
>> | >
>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
>> | >> Jack
>> | >
>> |
>> |
>> |
>>
>
>
 
D

DL

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for your replies.
> I am more and more worrying about that file.
> It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
> computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
> renamed file is there too of course).
> I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
> the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
> or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
> I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do
> in my computer!!!!
>
> There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that
> file is placed in
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> and in
> HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that
> key is back there!!!!
> I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
> detects nothing wrong!
>
> If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
> that way? Something is not right here.
> Any thoughts on that?
> Jack
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for your explanation.
>> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
>> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
>> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
>> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
>> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc
>> has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
>> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
>> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not
>> acknowledge.
>> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
>> Jack
>>
>> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by
>>> Windows.
>>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
>>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
>>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista
>>> (all
>>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file.
>>> Depending
>>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007,
>>> but
>>> it does not install the file.
>>>
>>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to
>>> remove
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Sloan Crayton
>>> Microsoft
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
>>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
>>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
>>> | Lines: 30
>>> | X-Priority: 3
>>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
>>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
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>>> 216.99.56.142
>>> | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
>>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>> |
>>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
>>> | I use Office 2007
>>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on
>>> user
>>> | computers???
>>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation
>>> performed
>>> in
>>> | Windows (outside the Office).
>>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
>>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
>>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed
>>> yesterday!
>>> | Jack
>>> |
>>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote
>>> in
>>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
>>> questions
>>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How
>>> to
>>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition features
>>> in
>>> | > Office XP".
>>> | >
>>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
>>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the
>>> speech
>>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office
>>> 2003".
>>> | >
>>> | > Jack wrote:
>>> | >
>>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
>>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
>>> | >> Jack
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
D

Doug W.

Leave the damned thing alone. It IS legitimate. I have forgotten
as to how it came about BUT it was discussed here ad nauseum for
weeks about a year and a half ago. I DON'T worry about it
anymore. Check out the Microsoft databases for more info.
-
Doug W.
-

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for your replies.
> I am more and more worrying about that file.
> It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else,
> restarted computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in
> \System32 folder (and the renamed file is there too of
> course).
> I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that
> when I shut the service down, it starts automatically each
> time I start IE new window, or even when I browse through my
> Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
> I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder,
> checking all I do in my computer!!!!
>
> There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've
> found that file is placed in
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> and in
> HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> After removing that key from registry and after restarting
> Windows that key is back there!!!!
> I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware
> software and it detects nothing wrong!
>
> If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run
> on startup that way? Something is not right here.
> Any thoughts on that?
> Jack
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for your explanation.
>> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction
>> shown in:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
>> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the
>> scratch.
>> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
>> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
>> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop
>> up menu etc has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
>> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
>> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does
>> not acknowledge.
>> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
>> Jack
>>
>> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in message news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is
>>> provided by Windows.
>>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office
>>> installation was
>>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that
>>> file. Since
>>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or
>>> Windows Vista (all
>>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that
>>> file. Depending
>>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by
>>> Office 2007, but
>>> it does not install the file.
>>>
>>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a
>>> way to remove
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Sloan Crayton
>>> Microsoft
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
>>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
>>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
>>> | Lines: 30
>>> | X-Priority: 3
>>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
>>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
>>> 216.99.56.142
>>> | Path:
>>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
>>> microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
>>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>> |
>>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
>>> | I use Office 2007
>>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many
>>> problems on user
>>> | computers???
>>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any
>>> operation performed
>>> in
>>> | Windows (outside the Office).
>>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is
>>> on?
>>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about
>>> Office 2007.
>>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just
>>> installed yesterday!
>>> | Jack
>>> |
>>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]"
>>> <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>> in
>>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599
>>> "Frequently asked
>>> questions
>>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to
>>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting
>>> recognition features in
>>> | > Office XP".
>>> | >
>>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
>>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn
>>> off the speech
>>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in
>>> Office 2003".
>>> | >
>>> | > Jack wrote:
>>> | >
>>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
>>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
>>> | >> Jack
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

"Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote in message
news:e6K3WIRZIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: Leave the damned thing alone. It IS legitimate. I have forgotten
: as to how it came about BUT it was discussed here ad nauseum for
: weeks about a year and a half ago. I DON'T worry about it
: anymore. Check out the Microsoft databases for more info.
: -
: Doug W.
: -
:
: "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
: news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > Thank you for your replies.
: > I am more and more worrying about that file.
: > It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else,
: > restarted computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in
: > \System32 folder (and the renamed file is there too of
: > course).
: > I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that
: > when I shut the service down, it starts automatically each
: > time I start IE new window, or even when I browse through my
: > Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
: > I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder,
: > checking all I do in my computer!!!!
: >
: > There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've
: > found that file is placed in
: >
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
: > and in
: >
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
: > After removing that key from registry and after restarting
: > Windows that key is back there!!!!
: > I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware
: > software and it detects nothing wrong!
: >
: > If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run
: > on startup that way? Something is not right here.
: > Any thoughts on that?
: > Jack
: >
: > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
: > news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: >> Thank you for your explanation.
: >> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction
: >> shown in:
: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
: >> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the
: >> scratch.
: >> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
: >> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
: >> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop
: >> up menu etc has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
: >> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
: >> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does
: >> not acknowledge.
: >> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
: >> Jack
: >>
: >> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote
: >> in message news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
: >>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is
: >>> provided by Windows.
: >>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office
: >>> installation was
: >>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that
: >>> file. Since
: >>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or
: >>> Windows Vista (all
: >>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that
: >>> file. Depending
: >>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by
: >>> Office 2007, but
: >>> it does not install the file.
: >>>
: >>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a
: >>> way to remove
: >>> it.
: >>>
: >>> Sloan Crayton
: >>> Microsoft
: >>>
: >>> --------------------
: >>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
: >>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
: >>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
: >>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
: >>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
: >>> | Lines: 30
: >>> | X-Priority: 3
: >>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
: >>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
: >>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
: >>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
: >>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
: >>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
: >>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
: >>> 216.99.56.142
: >>> | Path:
: >>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
: >>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
: >>> microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
: >>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
: >>> |
: >>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
: >>> | I use Office 2007
: >>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many
: >>> problems on user
: >>> | computers???
: >>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any
: >>> operation performed
: >>> in
: >>> | Windows (outside the Office).
: >>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is
: >>> on?
: >>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about
: >>> Office 2007.
: >>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just
: >>> installed yesterday!
: >>> | Jack
: >>> |
: >>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]"
: >>> <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
: >>> in
: >>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: >>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599
: >>> "Frequently asked
: >>> questions
: >>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and
: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to
: >>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting
: >>> recognition features in
: >>> | > Office XP".
: >>> | >
: >>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
: >>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn
: >>> off the speech
: >>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in
: >>> Office 2003".
: >>> | >
: >>> | > Jack wrote:
: >>> | >
: >>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
: >>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
: >>> | >> Jack
: >>> | >
: >>> |
: >>> |
: >>> |
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
:
 
J

Jack

You were not reading that thread properly. Thank you.
1.
That MSDN article is not for me. I do not use Office XP but Office 2007.
2.
That thing is causing 3-5 seconds delay on each mouse click I do in Windows.
Please at least do one thing for me.
If you are not afraid of opening Windows registry, please check if you have
the same both entries.
That will help.
Jack

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for your replies.
> I am more and more worrying about that file.
> It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
> computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
> renamed file is there too of course).
> I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
> the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
> or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
> I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do
> in my computer!!!!
>
> There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that
> file is placed in
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> and in
> HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that
> key is back there!!!!
> I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
> detects nothing wrong!
>
> If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
> that way? Something is not right here.
> Any thoughts on that?
> Jack
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for your explanation.
>> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
>> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
>> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
>> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
>> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc
>> has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
>> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
>> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not
>> acknowledge.
>> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
>> Jack
>>
>> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by
>>> Windows.
>>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
>>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
>>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista
>>> (all
>>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file.
>>> Depending
>>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007,
>>> but
>>> it does not install the file.
>>>
>>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to
>>> remove
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Sloan Crayton
>>> Microsoft
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
>>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
>>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
>>> | Lines: 30
>>> | X-Priority: 3
>>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
>>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
>>> 216.99.56.142
>>> | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
>>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>> |
>>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
>>> | I use Office 2007
>>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on
>>> user
>>> | computers???
>>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation
>>> performed
>>> in
>>> | Windows (outside the Office).
>>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
>>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
>>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed
>>> yesterday!
>>> | Jack
>>> |
>>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote
>>> in
>>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
>>> questions
>>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How
>>> to
>>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition features
>>> in
>>> | > Office XP".
>>> | >
>>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
>>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the
>>> speech
>>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office
>>> 2003".
>>> | >
>>> | > Jack wrote:
>>> | >
>>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
>>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
>>> | >> Jack
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
S

Script

This can be caused by the Language Bar, regardless of Office *version*, or NO
Office products at all.
It is an XP problem, period. (for some)
Read/try these pages:
1)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313176/EN-US/
2)
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/
[READ the Step about Office 2003 it has a note about 2007. At step 3, you
can "delete" the entry from the Registry at the location specified in
msconfig, rather than just "unchecking" in msconfig.]

-hth-



"Jack" wrote:

> You were not reading that thread properly. Thank you.
> 1.
> That MSDN article is not for me. I do not use Office XP but Office 2007.
> 2.
> That thing is causing 3-5 seconds delay on each mouse click I do in Windows.
> Please at least do one thing for me.
> If you are not afraid of opening Windows registry, please check if you have
> the same both entries.
> That will help.
> Jack
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Thank you for your replies.
> > I am more and more worrying about that file.
> > It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
> > computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
> > renamed file is there too of course).
> > I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
> > the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
> > or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
> > I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do
> > in my computer!!!!
> >
> > There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that
> > file is placed in
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> > and in
> > HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> > After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that
> > key is back there!!!!
> > I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
> > detects nothing wrong!
> >
> > If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
> > that way? Something is not right here.
> > Any thoughts on that?
> > Jack
> >
> > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> > news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Thank you for your explanation.
> >> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
> >> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
> >> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
> >> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
> >> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc
> >> has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
> >> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
> >> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not
> >> acknowledge.
> >> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
> >>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by
> >>> Windows.
> >>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
> >>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
> >>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista
> >>> (all
> >>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file.
> >>> Depending
> >>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007,
> >>> but
> >>> it does not install the file.
> >>>
> >>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to
> >>> remove
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> Sloan Crayton
> >>> Microsoft
> >>>
> >>> --------------------
> >>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
> >>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> >>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
> >>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
> >>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
> >>> | Lines: 30
> >>> | X-Priority: 3
> >>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
> >>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
> >>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
> >>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
> >>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
> >>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
> >>> 216.99.56.142
> >>> | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
> >>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
> >>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
> >>> |
> >>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
> >>> | I use Office 2007
> >>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on
> >>> user
> >>> | computers???
> >>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation
> >>> performed
> >>> in
> >>> | Windows (outside the Office).
> >>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
> >>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
> >>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed
> >>> yesterday!
> >>> | Jack
> >>> |
> >>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >>> wrote
> >>> in
> >>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
> >>> questions
> >>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How
> >>> to
> >>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition features
> >>> in
> >>> | > Office XP".
> >>> | >
> >>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
> >>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the
> >>> speech
> >>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office
> >>> 2003".
> >>> | >
> >>> | > Jack wrote:
> >>> | >
> >>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
> >>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
> >>> | >> Jack
> >>> | >
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
 
D

DL

Yes I am

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:OXg%23vISZIHA.4284@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You were not reading that thread properly. Thank you.
> 1.
> That MSDN article is not for me. I do not use Office XP but Office 2007.
> 2.
> That thing is causing 3-5 seconds delay on each mouse click I do in
> Windows.
> Please at least do one thing for me.
> If you are not afraid of opening Windows registry, please check if you
> have the same both entries.
> That will help.
> Jack
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for your replies.
>> I am more and more worrying about that file.
>> It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
>> computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
>> renamed file is there too of course).
>> I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
>> the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new
>> window, or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook
>> Express.
>> I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do
>> in my computer!!!!
>>
>> There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that
>> file is placed in
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
>> and in
>> HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
>> After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that
>> key is back there!!!!
>> I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
>> detects nothing wrong!
>>
>> If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
>> that way? Something is not right here.
>> Any thoughts on that?
>> Jack
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>> news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Thank you for your explanation.
>>> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
>>> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
>>> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
>>> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
>>> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc
>>> has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
>>> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
>>> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not
>>> acknowledge.
>>> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by
>>>> Windows.
>>>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
>>>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
>>>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista
>>>> (all
>>>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file.
>>>> Depending
>>>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007,
>>>> but
>>>> it does not install the file.
>>>>
>>>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to
>>>> remove
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Sloan Crayton
>>>> Microsoft
>>>>
>>>> --------------------
>>>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
>>>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
>>>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
>>>> | Lines: 30
>>>> | X-Priority: 3
>>>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>>>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
>>>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
>>>> 216.99.56.142
>>>> | Path:
>>>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>>>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
>>>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>>> |
>>>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
>>>> | I use Office 2007
>>>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on
>>>> user
>>>> | computers???
>>>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation
>>>> performed
>>>> in
>>>> | Windows (outside the Office).
>>>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
>>>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
>>>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed
>>>> yesterday!
>>>> | Jack
>>>> |
>>>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote
>>>> in
>>>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
>>>> questions
>>>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526
>>>> "How to
>>>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition
>>>> features in
>>>> | > Office XP".
>>>> | >
>>>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
>>>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the
>>>> speech
>>>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office
>>>> 2003".
>>>> | >
>>>> | > Jack wrote:
>>>> | >
>>>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
>>>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
>>>> | >> Jack
>>>> | >
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
J

Jack

If you did you would know I have already passed that step.
No need to repeat, because your reply does not bring anything new to the
subject.
Jack

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:uM8TClSZIHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yes I am
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:OXg%23vISZIHA.4284@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> You were not reading that thread properly. Thank you.
>> 1.
>> That MSDN article is not for me. I do not use Office XP but Office 2007.
>> 2.
>> That thing is causing 3-5 seconds delay on each mouse click I do in
>> Windows.
>> Please at least do one thing for me.
>> If you are not afraid of opening Windows registry, please check if you
>> have the same both entries.
>> That will help.
>> Jack
>>
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>> news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thank you for your replies.
>>> I am more and more worrying about that file.
>>> It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
>>> computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
>>> renamed file is there too of course).
>>> I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I
>>> shut the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new
>>> window, or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook
>>> Express.
>>> I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I
>>> do in my computer!!!!
>>>
>>> There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that
>>> file is placed in
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
>>> and in
>>> HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
>>> After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that
>>> key is back there!!!!
>>> I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
>>> detects nothing wrong!
>>>
>>> If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
>>> that way? Something is not right here.
>>> Any thoughts on that?
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>>> news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thank you for your explanation.
>>>> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
>>>> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
>>>> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
>>>> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
>>>> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc
>>>> has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
>>>> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
>>>> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not
>>>> acknowledge.
>>>> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by
>>>>> Windows.
>>>>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
>>>>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file.
>>>>> Since
>>>>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista
>>>>> (all
>>>>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file.
>>>>> Depending
>>>>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office
>>>>> 2007, but
>>>>> it does not install the file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to
>>>>> remove
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sloan Crayton
>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
>>>>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>>>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>>>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
>>>>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
>>>>> | Lines: 30
>>>>> | X-Priority: 3
>>>>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>>>>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>>>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
>>>>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>>>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>>>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
>>>>> 216.99.56.142
>>>>> | Path:
>>>>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>>>>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
>>>>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
>>>>> | I use Office 2007
>>>>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on
>>>>> user
>>>>> | computers???
>>>>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation
>>>>> performed
>>>>> in
>>>>> | Windows (outside the Office).
>>>>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
>>>>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
>>>>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed
>>>>> yesterday!
>>>>> | Jack
>>>>> |
>>>>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote
>>>>> in
>>>>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
>>>>> questions
>>>>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526
>>>>> "How to
>>>>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition
>>>>> features in
>>>>> | > Office XP".
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
>>>>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the
>>>>> speech
>>>>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office
>>>>> 2003".
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | > Jack wrote:
>>>>> | >
>>>>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
>>>>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
>>>>> | >> Jack
>>>>> | >
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Jack,

In my reply dated 01/30/08 as a followup to Sloan's, there were steps to turn it off that do work, that explained a bit more about
what can cause it to be restarted (based on services and features of Windows you have invoked) and that asked you for additional
information includind specifics on where you are seeing delays.

There hasn't been a response to you that I've seen to trying those steps or to the questions asked.

An additional reply on 02/01 by 'Script' points to a web page that basically covers the same steps with step by step pictures.

===========
<<"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Thank you for your replies.
I am more and more worrying about that file.
It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
renamed file is there too of course).
I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do in
my computer!!!!

There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that file
is placed in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
and in
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that key
is back there!!!!
I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
detects nothing wrong!

If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
that way? Something is not right here.
Any thoughts on that?
Jack >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
J

John Corliss

I managed to get rid of the thing after it got installed on my computer
when I upgraded to IE7. I'm running XP Home SP2. Just did a search of my
entire drive and there IS no ctrmon.exe, so it can be done. However,
"Removing the Ctfmon.exe might cause problematic behavior in your Office
XP programs, so removing it is not recommended."

Thus, disabling it is a better idea if you're running MS Office XP, but
you're not so it shouldn't hurt anything.

First disable it and do a search for all instances of the file. Delete
all three of them.

Also, maybe you can find something of use here:

http://tinyurl.com/yq6p7a

(a Google search using "get rid of ctfmon.exe" (no quotes) as the search
terms.

Jack wrote:
> Thank you for your replies.
> I am more and more worrying about that file.
> It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
> computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
> renamed file is there too of course).
> I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
> the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
> or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
> I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do in
> my computer!!!!
>
> There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that file
> is placed in
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> and in
> HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that key
> is back there!!!!
> I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
> detects nothing wrong!
>
> If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
> that way? Something is not right here.
> Any thoughts on that?
> Jack
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for your explanation.
>> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
>> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
>> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
>> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
>> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc
>> has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
>> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
>> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not
>> acknowledge.
>> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
>> Jack
>>
>> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
>>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by
>>> Windows.
>>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
>>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
>>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista
>>> (all
>>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file. Depending
>>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007,
>>> but
>>> it does not install the file.
>>>
>>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to
>>> remove
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Sloan Crayton
>>> Microsoft
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
>>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
>>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
>>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
>>> | Lines: 30
>>> | X-Priority: 3
>>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
>>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
>>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net 216.99.56.142
>>> | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
>>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
>>> |
>>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
>>> | I use Office 2007
>>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on
>>> user
>>> | computers???
>>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation performed
>>> in
>>> | Windows (outside the Office).
>>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
>>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
>>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed
>>> yesterday!
>>> | Jack
>>> |
>>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>> in
>>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
>>> questions
>>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How
>>> to
>>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition features
>>> in
>>> | > Office XP".
>>> | >
>>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
>>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the speech
>>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office 2003".
>>> | >
>>> | > Jack wrote:
>>> | >
>>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
>>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
>>> | >> Jack
>>> | >
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>>
>>
>
>


--
John Corliss
 
J

Jack

Bob, I am sorry I missed your post.
Yes, thanks to you I finally get rid off that file.
It was just enough to follow these steps involving Control Panel settings
and removing from the start up menu.
You are absolutely right that the delay I am having is a combination of
ctfmon interracting with another software just I do not have enough time to
trace what software it is.
I had exactly the same problem (delay) last year when using XP Home edition
with SP2 , IE6 and OfficeXP.
After removing that ctfmon file the delay was gone.
Now, I built new computer, installed XP PRO/SP2, IE 7 and Office 2007. Just
2 weeks ago.
And the first thing I've noticed was that delay (2-3 secs) on performing any
operation in Windows.
It has nothing to do with my programming.
Maybe I am just too sensitive?
Maybe everyone else has the same delay but it does not have a clue that
computer can perform better?
Maybe.
Thanks,
Jack

"Bob Buckland ?:)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> wrote
in message news:OEDbRxTZIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Jack,
>
> In my reply dated 01/30/08 as a followup to Sloan's, there were steps to
> turn it off that do work, that explained a bit more about
> what can cause it to be restarted (based on services and features of
> Windows you have invoked) and that asked you for additional
> information includind specifics on where you are seeing delays.
>
> There hasn't been a response to you that I've seen to trying those steps
> or to the questions asked.
>
> An additional reply on 02/01 by 'Script' points to a web page that
> basically covers the same steps with step by step pictures.
>
> ===========
> <<"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for your replies.
> I am more and more worrying about that file.
> It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
> computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
> renamed file is there too of course).
> I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
> the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
> or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
> I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do
> in
> my computer!!!!
>
> There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that
> file
> is placed in
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> and in
> HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that
> key
> is back there!!!!
> I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
> detects nothing wrong!
>
> If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
> that way? Something is not right here.
> Any thoughts on that?
> Jack >>
> --
>
> Bob Buckland ?:)
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
>
 
V

Vanessa

I am almost....almost positive that this DAMNED thing was pushed out to all
Office users in the wonderful package of the SP3 (service pack) "UPDATES".
I'm running Windows XP with Office 2002 & the lovely SP3. I started having
problem the SECOND it was pushed out. I was on the phone with Microsoft for
BELIEVE IT OR NOT?????? 36 hours straight..I wouldn't let them hang up.
They finally got it fixed but it has, excuse the pun, wormed it's way back
into my PC and Microsoft doesn't help you at all. I think I'm gonna CAN my
PC and go by me a MAC!!! More problems now than I know what to do with!!
That's why I at the site! Have a good one!


"Doug W." wrote:

> Leave the damned thing alone. It IS legitimate. I have forgotten
> as to how it came about BUT it was discussed here ad nauseum for
> weeks about a year and a half ago. I DON'T worry about it
> anymore. Check out the Microsoft databases for more info.
> -
> Doug W.
> -
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:ef%236XJQZIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Thank you for your replies.
> > I am more and more worrying about that file.
> > It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else,
> > restarted computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in
> > \System32 folder (and the renamed file is there too of
> > course).
> > I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that
> > when I shut the service down, it starts automatically each
> > time I start IE new window, or even when I browse through my
> > Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
> > I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder,
> > checking all I do in my computer!!!!
> >
> > There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've
> > found that file is placed in
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> > and in
> > HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
> > After removing that key from registry and after restarting
> > Windows that key is back there!!!!
> > I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware
> > software and it detects nothing wrong!
> >
> > If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run
> > on startup that way? Something is not right here.
> > Any thoughts on that?
> > Jack
> >
> > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> > news:%23d$eNU1YIHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Thank you for your explanation.
> >> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction
> >> shown in:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
> >> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the
> >> scratch.
> >> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
> >> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
> >> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop
> >> up menu etc has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
> >> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
> >> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does
> >> not acknowledge.
> >> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> ""Sloan Crayton [MSFT]"" <sloanc@online.microsoft.com> wrote
> >> in message news:FqfCr35XIHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
> >>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is
> >>> provided by Windows.
> >>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office
> >>> installation was
> >>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that
> >>> file. Since
> >>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or
> >>> Windows Vista (all
> >>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that
> >>> file. Depending
> >>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by
> >>> Office 2007, but
> >>> it does not install the file.
> >>>
> >>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a
> >>> way to remove
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> Sloan Crayton
> >>> Microsoft
> >>>
> >>> --------------------
> >>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
> >>> | References: <eGbC7SfXIHA.5132@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> >>> <eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
> >>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
> >>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
> >>> | Lines: 30
> >>> | X-Priority: 3
> >>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
> >>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
> >>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed Response
> >>> | Message-ID: <u4$0LIgXIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
> >>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
> >>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
> >>> 216.99.56.142
> >>> | Path:
> >>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
> >>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
> >>> microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
> >>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
> >>> |
> >>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
> >>> | I use Office 2007
> >>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many
> >>> problems on user
> >>> | computers???
> >>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any
> >>> operation performed
> >>> in
> >>> | Windows (outside the Office).
> >>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is
> >>> on?
> >>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about
> >>> Office 2007.
> >>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just
> >>> installed yesterday!
> >>> | Jack
> >>> |
> >>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]"
> >>> <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >>> in
> >>> | message news:eP5v7dfXIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599
> >>> "Frequently asked
> >>> questions
> >>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to
> >>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting
> >>> recognition features in
> >>> | > Office XP".
> >>> | >
> >>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
> >>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn
> >>> off the speech
> >>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in
> >>> Office 2003".
> >>> | >
> >>> | > Jack wrote:
> >>> | >
> >>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
> >>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
> >>> | >> Jack
> >>> | >
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
B

Bob I

Vanessa wrote:

> I am almost....almost positive that this DAMNED thing was pushed out to all
> Office users in the wonderful package of the SP3 (service pack) "UPDATES".
> I'm running Windows XP with Office 2002 & the lovely SP3. I started having
> problem the SECOND it was pushed out. I was on the phone with Microsoft for
> BELIEVE IT OR NOT?????? 36 hours straight..I wouldn't let them hang up.
> They finally got it fixed but it has, excuse the pun, wormed it's way back
> into my PC and Microsoft doesn't help you at all. I think I'm gonna CAN my
> PC and go by me a MAC!!! More problems now than I know what to do with!!
> That's why I at the site! Have a good one!
>

Please have a nice trip!
 
D

Drshiva

On 12 mar, 14:48, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Vanessa wrote:
> > I am almost....almost positive that this DAMNED thing was pushed out to all
> > Office users in the wonderful package of the SP3 (service pack) "UPDATES".
> > I'm running Windows XP with Office 2002 & the lovely SP3. I started having
> > problem the SECOND it was pushed out. I was on the phone with Microsoft for
> > BELIEVE IT OR NOT?????? 36 hours straight..I wouldn't let them hang up.
> > They finally got it fixed but it has, excuse the pun, wormed it's way back
> > into my PC and Microsoft doesn't help you at all. I think I'm gonna CAN my
> > PC and go by me a MAC!!! More problems now than I know what to do with!!
> > That's why I at the site! Have a good one!
>
> Please have a nice trip!

A solution to kill ctfmon.exe process :

Use the windows standard menus :

1.Go to Windows Parameters Panel
2.Choose Linguistic & Regional Options
3.Select Langages sheet
4.Click on Details Button
5. Select Advanced sheet
6. Check the checkbox "Stop services"
7. Apply

....Exit ctfmon.exe ...

Make the same to activate it again ...
 
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