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Gene
Richard, thanks so much for the spy-boot info. what a bummer!! Big time as u
know. I also liked spy-boot program. I was going crazy with this mess trying
to delete contacts in vistas windows mail. Hour's on the phone with 2 Dell
Techs. and they ended up with, (get back 2 u friday, today) couldn't help.
Now also my, I call it, "go back". which is, systems restore. When I try &
run it it tells me, none of your files have been changed do to an error
during running this program. I tried 3 times now. So if Dell calls back
tonight, this is what we r going to work on. I had one major fix left with
Dell and that is, if I remember right, 4 $ 120+ you get 3 major fixes and if
one of then can B fixed fast, then its called a minor fix at no cost. I
bought a new Dell Dimension E521 March of 07. After 2 weeks with it, it
crashed! It had came with a 6-mos. free McAfee program. I was running McAfee
and the puter froze up and short of a sledge hammer, it wasn't coming
un-froze!! So 9 hrs. on the phone with Dell we wipped it clean and started
over. To date it been good untill now and this spy-boot thing and I share
this puter with a 28-yr. old daughter, Nadine & two Grand kids, Janel 8 &
Jonathan 6 with their own desk tops. They all r pretty good. Well thank God
Richard for people like u. Here is my e-mail if you care to write me, Im
Gene, at yakindian187@ca.rr.com in California. Hope 2 hear from u soon. Can u
tell me if I download this new live window mail, will I B able 2 delete
Windows mail from my puter? Please let me know, & again, thanks for the
spy-boot info. Gene. P.S. Richard, when Im in the windows (WINDOWS VISTA
COMMUNITY) Everything I type I get an error message, check spelling, etc. and
I mean everytime. What am I doing wrong?? Like "search for (ill type delete
contacts in windows mail, vista) then in the next space where it starts in
ill click windows mail & contacts, then click on GO. always the error
message, try different words, etc, etc. Can u halp here?? Later
--
Gene Martinez
"Richard Urban" wrote:
> I had posted in a couple of various threads that I was also affected by this
> update (KB931768) under both Vista and Windows XP. Under Vista, Windows Mail
> had become so slow as to be almost impossible to use. Clicking on a post in
> the news groups took about 2-4 seconds to show the text in the bottom.
> Replying to a post also took about 2-4 seconds to bring us a usable reply
> window. Shutting down Windows Mail took the same 2-4 seconds.
>
> I also stated that I thought it was a program interaction. It took me six
> days to rebuild my system, installing each program I normally use, rebooting
> and then testing Windows Mail. I was creating an image of my system after
> every successful program install so I could go back easily when I found a
> problem. All it took was loads of time and testing.
>
> About 2 hours ago I finally found the culprit!
>
> Hint! Raise your hand if you have Spybot Search and Destroy installed.
>
> I had been using Spybot Search and Destroy for about 4 years now. I
> installed it under Vista and, because it seemed to work OK, I left it in
> place. Well, we all know that Spybot S&D was **not** designed for Vista. It
> just happened to work.
>
> Unfortunately, it's short comings showed up after the install of KB931768
>
> I installed Spybot S&D - and did not choose to run through the initial
> wizard immediately. I closed down Spybot S&D and tested Windows Mail.
> Everything was fine. After a reboot everything was still fine. I then ran
> through the wizard and retrieved all the available updates for Spybot S&D. I
> again tested Windows Mail and found it to work as it previously had (no
> discernible problems or slow downs).
>
> I then chose to ***immunize*** within Spybot, which you have to do to apply
> the updates for the program.
>
> I again started Windows Mail.
>
> *****BANG***** *****BOOM***** *****BAM*****
>
> Windows Mail had been broken!
>
> Every adverse condition that I listed above was back in all their glory!
>
> Now, here is the unfortunate part that is going to cause countless thousands
> of people a bunch of grief. Uninstalling Spybot Search and Destroy (even
> with a reboot) ***DOES NOT*** eliminate the problem and take you back to
> where you were previously. Uninstalling and then using System Restore may -
> if you have just installed Spybot S&D and made no changes to your system
> since. I doubt if too many people would fall into this category.
>
> Even scouring the file system and deleting all remnants left from the
> install does nothing. Spybot must place, or alter, a registry entry
> somewhere that is not touched by the uninstall process. You will have to
> rebuild your system from scratch and resist the temptation to install Spybot
> Search and Destroy.
>
> I have not yet tested to see if this also solves the alternate placement
> problem for the Temporary Internet File Folder but I will be testing for
> that as soon as I place this post in the suitable newsgroups. I will also be
> testing for this under Windows XP when I recover from the total exhaustion I
> have been working under for the past 24 hours. (-:
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
know. I also liked spy-boot program. I was going crazy with this mess trying
to delete contacts in vistas windows mail. Hour's on the phone with 2 Dell
Techs. and they ended up with, (get back 2 u friday, today) couldn't help.
Now also my, I call it, "go back". which is, systems restore. When I try &
run it it tells me, none of your files have been changed do to an error
during running this program. I tried 3 times now. So if Dell calls back
tonight, this is what we r going to work on. I had one major fix left with
Dell and that is, if I remember right, 4 $ 120+ you get 3 major fixes and if
one of then can B fixed fast, then its called a minor fix at no cost. I
bought a new Dell Dimension E521 March of 07. After 2 weeks with it, it
crashed! It had came with a 6-mos. free McAfee program. I was running McAfee
and the puter froze up and short of a sledge hammer, it wasn't coming
un-froze!! So 9 hrs. on the phone with Dell we wipped it clean and started
over. To date it been good untill now and this spy-boot thing and I share
this puter with a 28-yr. old daughter, Nadine & two Grand kids, Janel 8 &
Jonathan 6 with their own desk tops. They all r pretty good. Well thank God
Richard for people like u. Here is my e-mail if you care to write me, Im
Gene, at yakindian187@ca.rr.com in California. Hope 2 hear from u soon. Can u
tell me if I download this new live window mail, will I B able 2 delete
Windows mail from my puter? Please let me know, & again, thanks for the
spy-boot info. Gene. P.S. Richard, when Im in the windows (WINDOWS VISTA
COMMUNITY) Everything I type I get an error message, check spelling, etc. and
I mean everytime. What am I doing wrong?? Like "search for (ill type delete
contacts in windows mail, vista) then in the next space where it starts in
ill click windows mail & contacts, then click on GO. always the error
message, try different words, etc, etc. Can u halp here?? Later
--
Gene Martinez
"Richard Urban" wrote:
> I had posted in a couple of various threads that I was also affected by this
> update (KB931768) under both Vista and Windows XP. Under Vista, Windows Mail
> had become so slow as to be almost impossible to use. Clicking on a post in
> the news groups took about 2-4 seconds to show the text in the bottom.
> Replying to a post also took about 2-4 seconds to bring us a usable reply
> window. Shutting down Windows Mail took the same 2-4 seconds.
>
> I also stated that I thought it was a program interaction. It took me six
> days to rebuild my system, installing each program I normally use, rebooting
> and then testing Windows Mail. I was creating an image of my system after
> every successful program install so I could go back easily when I found a
> problem. All it took was loads of time and testing.
>
> About 2 hours ago I finally found the culprit!
>
> Hint! Raise your hand if you have Spybot Search and Destroy installed.
>
> I had been using Spybot Search and Destroy for about 4 years now. I
> installed it under Vista and, because it seemed to work OK, I left it in
> place. Well, we all know that Spybot S&D was **not** designed for Vista. It
> just happened to work.
>
> Unfortunately, it's short comings showed up after the install of KB931768
>
> I installed Spybot S&D - and did not choose to run through the initial
> wizard immediately. I closed down Spybot S&D and tested Windows Mail.
> Everything was fine. After a reboot everything was still fine. I then ran
> through the wizard and retrieved all the available updates for Spybot S&D. I
> again tested Windows Mail and found it to work as it previously had (no
> discernible problems or slow downs).
>
> I then chose to ***immunize*** within Spybot, which you have to do to apply
> the updates for the program.
>
> I again started Windows Mail.
>
> *****BANG***** *****BOOM***** *****BAM*****
>
> Windows Mail had been broken!
>
> Every adverse condition that I listed above was back in all their glory!
>
> Now, here is the unfortunate part that is going to cause countless thousands
> of people a bunch of grief. Uninstalling Spybot Search and Destroy (even
> with a reboot) ***DOES NOT*** eliminate the problem and take you back to
> where you were previously. Uninstalling and then using System Restore may -
> if you have just installed Spybot S&D and made no changes to your system
> since. I doubt if too many people would fall into this category.
>
> Even scouring the file system and deleting all remnants left from the
> install does nothing. Spybot must place, or alter, a registry entry
> somewhere that is not touched by the uninstall process. You will have to
> rebuild your system from scratch and resist the temptation to install Spybot
> Search and Destroy.
>
> I have not yet tested to see if this also solves the alternate placement
> problem for the Temporary Internet File Folder but I will be testing for
> that as soon as I place this post in the suitable newsgroups. I will also be
> testing for this under Windows XP when I recover from the total exhaustion I
> have been working under for the past 24 hours. (-:
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>