ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTâ„¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

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ningkeyang

MOTTO: FIGHTING POVERTY AROUND THE WORLD FROM: THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTâ„¢
PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALPROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT, 90 Long
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REF.:pEC/9030108308/07.Batch: 15/76/EF36. Serial No: SALP97585.FILE No: B665
75608567. Security code ZA/183/RR ELECTRONIC EMAIL AWARD WINNING
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Microsoftâ„¢ co-operation management worldwide is pleased to inform youthat you
are a winner of our annual MICROSOFTâ„¢ USER AWARD-Lotteryconducted in UNITED
KINGDOM . Your personal e-mail address or company email was attached
toSerial No: SALP97585. Consequently winning in the first lottery category.
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WithREF.:pEC/9030108308/07. This is from total prize money of
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firstcategory . All participants were selected through our Microsoft
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USER" promotions program, this is conducted annually. CONTACT CLAIM
OFFICEMr.PAUL WINTERSPROMOTION MANAGER. 24hrs hot-line :+Tel:44-703 182 07
15Tel:44-702 402 94 81Fax:44-870 479 62 30
Email:claimoffice.microsoft1@googlemail.com Remember, all prize money must be
claimed within 90 days ofthisnotification. All funds not claimed on or before
the fixed date willbe returned as unclaimed and donated to charity
organizations.Congratulations, once more from the entire management and staff
ofMicrosoftâ„¢ co-operation to all our lucky winners this year.Thank you
forbeing part of this promotional lottery program. Sincerely, MRS. BROWN
CATHY (SECRETARY) AWARD SPONSORSMICROSOFTâ„¢ CORPORATION. Please call your
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Names:2, Date of birth:3, Present Contact Address:4, Country Of Residence:5,
Tel/Fax:6, Your Winning serial and ref. no.:7, Winning Email address:8,
Occupation9, Sex:10 Total amount won: £1000000.0011, Mode Of Paymenti Bank
Transfer {T/T} For Security reasons, you are advised to keep your winning
informationCONFIDENTIAL Microsoftâ„¢ takes all reasonable steps to ensure that
the information inthis email is accurate.However, the company gives no
warranty, whether express or implied,regarding the content of this email, nor
do we accept liability for anyloss or damage which may result from your
receipt of this message. Anydecision made by an individual based on
information in this email is theresponsibility of that individual alone. You
have to note that the onlyperson that have the right to represent you in your
claim is yourappointed Agent only. Copyright © 1998-2008 The MICROSOFT™
Inc.All rights reserved. Terms of Service - Guideline
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Again, I've got a bridge to sell you with your winnings.

ningkeyang wrote:
> MOTTO: FIGHTING POVERTY AROUND THE WORLD FROM: THE DESK OF THE
> MICROSOFTâ„¢
> PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALPROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT, 90 Long
> Acre,Covent GardenLONDON,WC2E 9RZ United Kingdom.
> REF.:pEC/9030108308/07.Batch: 15/76/EF36. Serial No: SALP97585.FILE No:
> B665
> 75608567. Security code ZA/183/RR ELECTRONIC EMAIL AWARD WINNING
> NOTIFICATION AWARD PRESENTATION CENTER : UNITED KINGDOM ATTN: WINNER,
> Microsoftâ„¢ co-operation management worldwide is pleased to inform
> youthat
> you are a winner of our annual MICROSOFTâ„¢ USER AWARD-Lotteryconducted in
> UNITED KINGDOM . Your personal e-mail address or company email was
> attached toSerial No: SALP97585. Consequently winning in the first lottery
> category. You have therefore been APPROVED for a total sums of
> £1000000.00
> OneMillion United Kingdom Pounds) Credited to FILE No: B665 75608567.
> WithREF.:pEC/9030108308/07. This is from total prize money of
> £60,000,000,shared among the Seventy-five (75) lucky Worldwide winners in
> firstcategory . All participants were selected through our Microsoft
> computer ballotsystem, drawn from Canada, Asia, Australia, United States,
> Europe, MiddleEast, Africa and Oceania .As part of international
> "MICROSOFTâ„¢ USER" promotions program, this is conducted annually.
> CONTACT CLAIM OFFICEMr.PAUL WINTERSPROMOTION MANAGER. 24hrs hot-line
> :+Tel:44-703 182 07 15Tel:44-702 402 94 81Fax:44-870 479 62 30
> Email:claimoffice.microsoft1@googlemail.com Remember, all prize money must
> be claimed within 90 days ofthisnotification. All funds not claimed on or
> before the fixed date willbe returned as unclaimed and donated to charity
> organizations.Congratulations, once more from the entire management and
> staff ofMicrosoftâ„¢ co-operation to all our lucky winners this year.Thank
> you forbeing part of this promotional lottery program. Sincerely, MRS.
> BROWN
> CATHY (SECRETARY) AWARD SPONSORSMICROSOFTâ„¢ CORPORATION. Please call
> your
> claim agent if your mail was not responded to within 24hours: PLEASE SEND
> A
> COPY OF YOUR CONTACT INFORMATIONS TO BOTH EMAILS PROVIDEDABOVE.1, Full
> Names:2, Date of birth:3, Present Contact Address:4, Country Of
> Residence:5,
> Tel/Fax:6, Your Winning serial and ref. no.:7, Winning Email address:8,
> Occupation9, Sex:10 Total amount won: £1000000.0011, Mode Of Paymenti
> Bank
> Transfer {T/T} For Security reasons, you are advised to keep your
> winning
> informationCONFIDENTIAL Microsoftâ„¢ takes all reasonable steps to ensure
> that the information inthis email is accurate.However, the company gives
> no
> warranty, whether express or implied,regarding the content of this email,
> nor do we accept liability for anyloss or damage which may result from
> your
> receipt of this message. Anydecision made by an individual based on
> information in this email is theresponsibility of that individual alone.
> You
> have to note that the onlyperson that have the right to represent you in
> your claim is yourappointed Agent only. Copyright © 1998-2008 The
> MICROSOFTâ„¢ Inc.All rights reserved. Terms of Service - Guideline
 
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Paul Adare

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTâ„¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:49:11 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> Again, I've got a bridge to sell you with your winnings.

Is it really necessary to respond to these posts let alone quote them in
their entirety?

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Portable: Survives system reboot.
 
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Tom [Pepper] Willett

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

I see you've extended your net nannyism from the Private to Public
newsgroups.

"Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:49jht4akmg12$.17d42fi83hqvm.dlg@40tude.net...
: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:49:11 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
:
: > Again, I've got a bridge to sell you with your winnings.
:
: Is it really necessary to respond to these posts let alone quote them in
: their entirety?
:
: --
: Paul Adare
: MVP - Virtual Machines
: http://www.identit.ca
: Portable: Survives system reboot.
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

<guffaw>

Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> I see you've extended your net nannyism from the Private to Public
> newsgroups.
>
> "Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:49jht4akmg12$.17d42fi83hqvm.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:49:11 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>
>>> Again, I've got a bridge to sell you with your winnings.
>>
>> Is it really necessary to respond to these posts let alone quote them in
>> their entirety?
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTâ„¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

Paul Adare wrote:
>> Again, I've got a bridge to sell you with your winnings.
>
> Is it really necessary to respond to these posts let alone quote them in
> their entirety?

Is it really necessary for you to read my replies?
 
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Paul Adare

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:05:58 -0600, Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:

> I see you've extended your net nannyism from the Private to Public
> newsgroups.

So you think it is ok to repeat all of that garbage? I see you're as much
of a jerk in public groups as you are in the private groups.

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Output: What people who talk backwards do with their cat.
 
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Paul Adare

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTâ⤸¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:10:23 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> Paul Adare wrote:
>>> Again, I've got a bridge to sell you with your winnings.
>>
>> Is it really necessary to respond to these posts let alone quote them in
>> their entirety?
>
> Is it really necessary for you to read my replies?

Is it really necessary for you to sidestep a direct question?

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Real time: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there
and then.
 
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David H. Lipman

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

From: "Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com>

| On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:05:58 -0600, Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
|
>> I see you've extended your net nannyism from the Private to Public
>> newsgroups.
|
| So you think it is ok to repeat all of that garbage?
|

I don't and I agree with you.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
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Stefan Kanthak

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

"Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:

| nslookup -q=MX youreadaisyifyoudo.com
|
| *** youreadaisyifyoudo.com not found: Non-existent domain

Address munging IS harmful!

> I see you've extended your net nannyism from the Private to Public
> newsgroups.

Infants who poop in the public and wet their pants are in need for a
nanny. Thank god that some cares for you, little one!
To cite a wise netizen:

| posting on top because that's where the cursor happens to be is like
| sh1tt1ng in your pants because that's where you @ssh0l¤ happens to be

[ one more braindead fullquote removed ]

Stefan
 
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David H. Lipman

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

From: "Stefan Kanthak" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>

| "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:
|
|> nslookup -q=MX youreadaisyifyoudo.com
|>
|> *** youreadaisyifyoudo.com not found: Non-existent domain
|
| Address munging IS harmful!
|

Yes, hamful to to spammers!

Munging is GOOD!

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
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Stefan Kanthak

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

I bet this address is invalid and doesnt denote a mailbox!

> From: "Stefan Kanthak" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>
>
> | "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:
> |
> |> nslookup -q=MX youreadaisyifyoudo.com
> |>
> |> *** youreadaisyifyoudo.com not found: Non-existent domain
> |
> | Address munging IS harmful!
> |
>
> Yes, hamful to to spammers!

Ham aint spam! And spam aint ham.

> Munging is GOOD!

No! Only autists or people who didn't get the idea of the internet
as a peer 2 peer network post without a working/replyable address.
And only net terrorists who want to have their garbage dumped into
other peoples mailboxes abuse wrong/bouncing, sometimes even foreign
addresses.
See <http://www.google.de/search?q=spam+backscatter> why munging
is EVIL!

Remember: display names are for humans, mail addresses for the
machines. And the latter use them literally^Wlitterally, in your
case!

Stefan
 
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David H. Lipman

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

From: "Stefan Kanthak" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>


|
| No! Only autists or people who didn't get the idea of the internet
| as a peer 2 peer network post without a working/replyable address.
| And only net terrorists who want to have their garbage dumped into
| other peoples mailboxes abuse wrong/bouncing, sometimes even foreign
| addresses.
| See <http://www.google.de/search?q=spam+backscatter> why munging
| is EVIL!
|
| Remember: display names are for humans, mail addresses for the
| machines. And the latter use them literally^Wlitterally, in your
| case!
|
| Stefan

Based upon the standpoint of personal security, bot harvesting of email addresses and
spammers deliberately harvesting email addresses and most important Internet worms that
harvest email addresses from Usent, munging is a must. This is a reality of the situation.

Sorry, you are wrong !

I will not reply again as there is no discussion in this matter. Munging is a requirement
of personal security based upon the reality of Internet threats.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
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Sandy Mann

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

David,

By munging your address before the @ sign and not after it does that not
mean that Verizon.Net still get targeted by the spam/viruses/worms/whatever
even although it is undeliverable? I thought that it was better to munge
the address after the @ sign, (or both before and after), to prevent the ISP
being brought down with the volume of undelivered mail.

--


Sandy


"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:eNBg3w0bIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> From: "Stefan Kanthak" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>
>
>
> |
> | No! Only autists or people who didn't get the idea of the internet
> | as a peer 2 peer network post without a working/replyable address.
> | And only net terrorists who want to have their garbage dumped into
> | other peoples mailboxes abuse wrong/bouncing, sometimes even foreign
> | addresses.
> | See <http://www.google.de/search?q=spam+backscatter> why munging
> | is EVIL!
> |
> | Remember: display names are for humans, mail addresses for the
> | machines. And the latter use them literally^Wlitterally, in your
> | case!
> |
> | Stefan
>
> Based upon the standpoint of personal security, bot harvesting of email
> addresses and
> spammers deliberately harvesting email addresses and most important
> Internet worms that
> harvest email addresses from Usent, munging is a must. This is a reality
> of the situation.
>
> Sorry, you are wrong !
>
> I will not reply again as there is no discussion in this matter. Munging
> is a requirement
> of personal security based upon the reality of Internet threats.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>
>
 
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Tom [Pepper] Willett

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

Verizon will still get targeted, even though the message will bounce. It
still a hit on their servers.

"Sandy Mann" <sandymann2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:uo0dC60bIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: David,
:
: By munging your address before the @ sign and not after it does that not
: mean that Verizon.Net still get targeted by the
spam/viruses/worms/whatever
: even although it is undeliverable? I thought that it was better to munge
: the address after the @ sign, (or both before and after), to prevent the
ISP
: being brought down with the volume of undelivered mail.
:
: --
:
:
: Sandy
:
:
: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
: news:eNBg3w0bIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
: > From: "Stefan Kanthak" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>
: >
: >
: > |
: > | No! Only autists or people who didn't get the idea of the internet
: > | as a peer 2 peer network post without a working/replyable address.
: > | And only net terrorists who want to have their garbage dumped into
: > | other peoples mailboxes abuse wrong/bouncing, sometimes even foreign
: > | addresses.
: > | See <http://www.google.de/search?q=spam+backscatter> why munging
: > | is EVIL!
: > |
: > | Remember: display names are for humans, mail addresses for the
: > | machines. And the latter use them literally^Wlitterally, in your
: > | case!
: > |
: > | Stefan
: >
: > Based upon the standpoint of personal security, bot harvesting of email
: > addresses and
: > spammers deliberately harvesting email addresses and most important
: > Internet worms that
: > harvest email addresses from Usent, munging is a must. This is a
reality
: > of the situation.
: >
: > Sorry, you are wrong !
: >
: > I will not reply again as there is no discussion in this matter.
Munging
: > is a requirement
: > of personal security based upon the reality of Internet threats.
: >
: > --
: > Dave
: > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
: > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
: >
: >
: >
:
:
 
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David H. Lipman

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

From: "Sandy Mann" <sandymann2@mailinator.com>

| David,
|
| By munging your address before the @ sign and not after it does that not
| mean that Verizon.Net still get targeted by the spam/viruses/worms/whatever
| even although it is undeliverable? I thought that it was better to munge
| the address after the @ sign, (or both before and after), to prevent the ISP
| being brought down with the volume of undelivered mail.
|

I checked with Verizon and they have no problem with the "failed mail" issue of munging the
account name vs. the Domain name.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
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Stefan Kanthak

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

"Sandy Mann" <sandymann2@mailinator.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> By munging your address before the @ sign and not after it does that not
> mean that Verizon.Net still get targeted by the spam/viruses/worms/whatever
> even although it is undeliverable? I thought that it was better to munge
> the address after the @ sign, (or both before and after), to prevent the ISP
> being brought down with the volume of undelivered mail.

Both is bad, evil and nasty.

If you don't want to receive mail at an address used for posting,
use <*@*.invalid>
Thus anybody will see in an instant that this address is invalid!
No guess. And no bounces and backscatter too!

Or use a VALID address of yours acting as a black hole, but provide
a valid Reply-To:, which every RFC-compliant NUA/MUA prefers.

Stefan
 
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David H. Lipman

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

From: "Stefan Kanthak" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>


|
| Both is bad, evil and nasty.
|
| If you don't want to receive mail at an address used for posting,
| use <*@*.invalid>
| Thus anybody will see in an instant that this address is invalid!
| No guess. And no bounces and backscatter too!
|
| Or use a VALID address of yours acting as a black hole, but provide
| a valid Reply-To:, which every RFC-compliant NUA/MUA prefers.
|
| Stefan

You are both naive and misinformed on the reality of the situation.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
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Stefan Kanthak

Re: ABOUT THE DESK OF THE MICROSOFTââ?z¢ PROMOTIONS MANAGER INTERNATIONALP

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

> From: "Stefan Kanthak" <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]>
>
>
> |
> | Both is bad, evil and nasty.
> |
> | If you don't want to receive mail at an address used for posting,
> | use <*@*.invalid>
> | Thus anybody will see in an instant that this address is invalid!
> | No guess. And no bounces and backscatter too!
> |
> | Or use a VALID address of yours acting as a black hole, but provide
> | a valid Reply-To:, which every RFC-compliant NUA/MUA prefers.
> |
> | Stefan
>
> You are both naive and misinformed on the reality of the situation.

Naive as in "you won't convince any stubborn shortsighted moron to
stop abusing the net and burden other people with their spam problem"
or http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt?

Misinformed as in http://www.google.de/search?q=spam+backscatter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_munging
http://www.2kevin.net/munging.html READ ESPECIALLY THIS ONE!
http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/,
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml
http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
or http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt?

Which situation?

Get http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc821.txt (thats STD 0010) and read the
definition of "mailbox" then get http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc822.txt
(thats STD 0011) and read

| 6.2. SEMANTICS
|
| A mailbox receives mail.

Thats the reality of the situation (as far as reality is concerned in
"cyberspace")!

Stefan
 
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