Running app over Internet with TS

[Markus]

I would like to use Terminal Services (TS) to allow users to run an MS Access
application over the Internet from their Internet browser, if possible. If
not, then can TS provide me with an option to run the app over the Internet
in some other way?

I need some beginner help on how I can set up and test my app to be used in
this way before I offer it to my clients. E.G., I have an Apache Web server
running under Windows XP Home, will I need to upgrade to XP Pro to use
Terminal Services? Can Terminal Services provide a solution that can have
users run my app in their browser, or will each remote user be required to
have Terminal Services and XP Pro on their machine to connect? What will I
need to set up to fully test this internet option for running my app?

Any and all help very much appreciated,
Mark

 

[Helge Klein]

Markus,

I think you misunderstood how Terminal Services work - simply put,
they redirect the server computer's screen to the client computer.
This has nothing to do with the web or browsers.

To use Terminal Services, you need a Windows Server OS, TS licenses
(called TS CALs) and a licensing server or service. At the most basic
level you need one dedicated server. That server could host (depending
on the hardware) probably 40-50 different user sessions. Each session
corresponds to one user seeing the server's desktop and being able to
use the server's programs.

If I understood you correctly you are looking for a way to make your
MS Access application accessible over the internet. Terminal Services
are probably not the best way to do that. Unfortunately the only way I
can think of is to rewrite your app in such a way that it works as a
Web Application that can be hosted by a Web Server (along with a DB).

I hope this clears things up.

Helge

On 26 Jul., 17:02, Markus <Mar...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I would like to use Terminal Services (TS) to allow users to run an MS Access
> application over the Internet from their Internet browser, if possible. If
> not, then can TS provide me with an option to run the app over the Internet
> in some other way?
>
> I need some beginner help on how I can set up and test my app to be used in
> this way before I offer it to my clients. E.G., I have an Apache Web server
> running under Windows XP Home, will I need to upgrade to XP Pro to use
> Terminal Services? Can Terminal Services provide a solution that can have
> users run my app in their browser, or will each remote user be required to
> have Terminal Services and XP Pro on their machine to connect? What will I
> need to set up to fully test this internet option for running my app?
>
> Any and all help very much appreciated,
> Mark

 

[Markus]

Helge,

Thanks. I thought TS was used routinely to run windows apps remotely in a
multiuser mode, including Access apps. In fact, I found a couple articles
that praised the speed of these apps running over the Internet using TS on a
win2003 server connecting to TS using the cliient Remote Desktop Protocol (
up to 40 or 50 users).

I understood your first paragraph, but am now confused re the second
recommendation that TS cannot be used for this purpose.

Mark

"Helge Klein" wrote:

> Markus,
>
> I think you misunderstood how Terminal Services work - simply put,
> they redirect the server computer's screen to the client computer.
> This has nothing to do with the web or browsers.
>
> To use Terminal Services, you need a Windows Server OS, TS licenses
> (called TS CALs) and a licensing server or service. At the most basic
> level you need one dedicated server. That server could host (depending
> on the hardware) probably 40-50 different user sessions. Each session
> corresponds to one user seeing the server's desktop and being able to
> use the server's programs.
>
> If I understood you correctly you are looking for a way to make your
> MS Access application accessible over the internet. Terminal Services
> are probably not the best way to do that. Unfortunately the only way I
> can think of is to rewrite your app in such a way that it works as a
> Web Application that can be hosted by a Web Server (along with a DB).
>
> I hope this clears things up.
>
> Helge
>
> On 26 Jul., 17:02, Markus <Mar...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I would like to use Terminal Services (TS) to allow users to run an MS Access
> > application over the Internet from their Internet browser, if possible. If
> > not, then can TS provide me with an option to run the app over the Internet
> > in some other way?
> >
> > I need some beginner help on how I can set up and test my app to be used in
> > this way before I offer it to my clients. E.G., I have an Apache Web server
> > running under Windows XP Home, will I need to upgrade to XP Pro to use
> > Terminal Services? Can Terminal Services provide a solution that can have
> > users run my app in their browser, or will each remote user be required to
> > have Terminal Services and XP Pro on their machine to connect? What will I
> > need to set up to fully test this internet option for running my app?
> >
> > Any and all help very much appreciated,
> > Mark
>
>
>

 

[TP]

Hi Mark,

TS works very well for running an Access app over the Internet.
Depending on your app and how the end users use it you may be
able to support several times more than 40-50 users on modern
server hardware.

If you want you can have your users launch the remote desktop
client through a web page or directly via their start menu. If you
choose the web option they must use Internet Explorer and have
the ability to install the remote desktop activex.

-TP

Markus wrote:
> Helge,
>
> Thanks. I thought TS was used routinely to run windows apps remotely
> in a multiuser mode, including Access apps. In fact, I found a
> couple articles that praised the speed of these apps running over the
> Internet using TS on a win2003 server connecting to TS using the
> cliient Remote Desktop Protocol ( up to 40 or 50 users).
>
> I understood your first paragraph, but am now confused re the second
> recommendation that TS cannot be used for this purpose.
>
> Mark

 

[Jeff]

You are right, but he mentioned wanting to know if his XP Home laptop could
host this for users. If he had the proper servers(s) and licenses he could,
but not with his current situation.

"TP" wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> TS works very well for running an Access app over the Internet.
> Depending on your app and how the end users use it you may be
> able to support several times more than 40-50 users on modern
> server hardware.
>
> If you want you can have your users launch the remote desktop
> client through a web page or directly via their start menu. If you
> choose the web option they must use Internet Explorer and have
> the ability to install the remote desktop activex.
>
> -TP
>
> Markus wrote:
> > Helge,
> >
> > Thanks. I thought TS was used routinely to run windows apps remotely
> > in a multiuser mode, including Access apps. In fact, I found a
> > couple articles that praised the speed of these apps running over the
> > Internet using TS on a win2003 server connecting to TS using the
> > cliient Remote Desktop Protocol ( up to 40 or 50 users).
> >
> > I understood your first paragraph, but am now confused re the second
> > recommendation that TS cannot be used for this purpose.
> >
> > Mark
>

 

[TP]

Hi,

Thanks for reiterating that point. Helge already mentioned
the need for proper software and licenses so I left that out
of my response. I thought that Mark understood Helge's
point regarding 2003 and licenses but was questioning
the statement regarding TS not being the best way to do it.

-TP

Jeff wrote:
> You are right, but he mentioned wanting to know if his XP Home laptop
> could host this for users. If he had the proper servers(s) and
> licenses he could, but not with his current situation.
>