98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

[Bob L.]

I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4 Ultra
A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get
the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a
work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a Safe
Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device Manager
only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it is
listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility
Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there
isn’t one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in
rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

 

[Brian A.]

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...
> I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4 Ultra
> A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get
> the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a
> work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a Safe
> Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device Manager
> only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it is
> listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility
> Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there
> isn’t one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in
> rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=130179

MS-DOS Compatibility Mode Problems with PCI IDE Controllers
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=151911

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[MEB]

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...
| I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4
Ultra
| A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get
| the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a
| work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a
Safe
| Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device
Manager
| only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it
is
| listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility
| Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there
| isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in
| rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

Someone tell those morons at BIOSTAR that making flash the *required* entry
point is THE STUPIDEST idea that any web page can have.....

Has everyone on this planet become brain dead or what .... or is it that
these dimwitted doofuses don't keep up with what is being used as hack
points to people's systems, or maybe they just don't care ...

Did you install the motherboard drivers?
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/driver.php?S_ID=283

EXPANSION SLOT
# 4 x PCI
# 2 x PCI-E x 1
# 1 x PCI-E x 16
I/O
# 1 x PS/2 Mouse, 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port
# 1 x Serial Port
# 10 x USB 2.0 Ports (4 x Rear USB 2.0 , 6 x Front USB 2.0 )
# 3 x Audio Ports
# 1 x RJ-45 LAN Jack
# 1 x Floppy Connector
# 2 x IDE Connectors (Ultra DMA100/133)
# 4 x SATA Connectors
# 1 x S/PDIF Out Connector
# 1 x CD-in Connector
# 1 x System Fan Connector
# 1 x CPU Fan Connector
# 1 x NorthBridge FAN Connector
# 1 x Front Audio Header
# 1 x Printer Header
INTEGRATED AUDIO
# Realtek ALC655 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC
LAN
# Marrvell 88E1116 - Integrated 10/100/1000 transceiver.
SATA / RAID
# RAID 0,1,0+1
HARDWARE MONITOR FUNCTION
# CPU Fan Speed
# CPU Voltage
# DIMM Voltage
# CPU Temperature
Accessories
# 1 x User Manual
# 1 x HDD Cable
# 1 x FDD Cable
# 1 x SATA Cable
# 1 x Real I/O Panel for ATX Case
# 1 x Fully Setup Driver
SIZE
# ATX Form Factor: 21.8cm (W) x 29.3cm (L)

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[philo]

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...
> I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4
Ultra
> A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get
> the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a
> work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a
Safe
> Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device
Manager
> only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it
is
> listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility
> Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there
> isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in
> rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?


You will need to install the chipset drivers.
It's possible that the board is too new to have win98 drivers.
If that's the case, you will need to use a supported OS...probably win2k or
XP

 

[Bob L.]

MEB,
No, I didn't install the chipset driver as I could not find one. I do
not believe they have a 98SE driver for the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset. I tried
installing the VIA Chipset driver you have supplied but it is not compatible
with the nVidia Nf4. Is there another 98SE system driver that would work with
the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset?

Thanks, Bob


"MEB" wrote:

>
> "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...
> | I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4
> Ultra
> | A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get
> | the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a
> | work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a
> Safe
> | Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device
> Manager
> | only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it
> is
> | listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility
> | Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there
> | isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in
> | rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?
>
> Someone tell those morons at BIOSTAR that making flash the *required* entry
> point is THE STUPIDEST idea that any web page can have.....
>
> Has everyone on this planet become brain dead or what .... or is it that
> these dimwitted doofuses don't keep up with what is being used as hack
> points to people's systems, or maybe they just don't care ...
>
> Did you install the motherboard drivers?
> http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/driver.php?S_ID=283
>
> EXPANSION SLOT
> # 4 x PCI
> # 2 x PCI-E x 1
> # 1 x PCI-E x 16
> I/O
> # 1 x PS/2 Mouse, 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port
> # 1 x Serial Port
> # 10 x USB 2.0 Ports (4 x Rear USB 2.0 , 6 x Front USB 2.0 )
> # 3 x Audio Ports
> # 1 x RJ-45 LAN Jack
> # 1 x Floppy Connector
> # 2 x IDE Connectors (Ultra DMA100/133)
> # 4 x SATA Connectors
> # 1 x S/PDIF Out Connector
> # 1 x CD-in Connector
> # 1 x System Fan Connector
> # 1 x CPU Fan Connector
> # 1 x NorthBridge FAN Connector
> # 1 x Front Audio Header
> # 1 x Printer Header
> INTEGRATED AUDIO
> # Realtek ALC655 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC
> LAN
> # Marrvell 88E1116 - Integrated 10/100/1000 transceiver.
> SATA / RAID
> # RAID 0,1,0+1
> HARDWARE MONITOR FUNCTION
> # CPU Fan Speed
> # CPU Voltage
> # DIMM Voltage
> # CPU Temperature
> Accessories
> # 1 x User Manual
> # 1 x HDD Cable
> # 1 x FDD Cable
> # 1 x SATA Cable
> # 1 x Real I/O Panel for ATX Case
> # 1 x Fully Setup Driver
> SIZE
> # ATX Form Factor: 21.8cm (W) x 29.3cm (L)
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>
>
>

 

[Bob L.]

Philo,
Does anyone make aftermarket or custom drivers for these situations,
where the manufactureer does not provide them?

"philo" wrote:

>
> "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...
> > I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4
> Ultra
> > A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get
> > the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a
> > work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a
> Safe
> > Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device
> Manager
> > only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it
> is
> > listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility
> > Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there
> > isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in
> > rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?
>
>
> You will need to install the chipset drivers.
> It's possible that the board is too new to have win98 drivers.
> If that's the case, you will need to use a supported OS...probably win2k or
> XP
>
>
>

 

[MEB]

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:715EF6C8-9F77-4A78-9ABE-A2757B942923@microsoft.com...
| MEB,
| No, I didn't install the chipset driver as I could not find one. I do
| not believe they have a 98SE driver for the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset. I
tried
| installing the VIA Chipset driver you have supplied but it is not
compatible
| with the nVidia Nf4. Is there another 98SE system driver that would work
with
| the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset?
|
| Thanks, Bob
|

Thought that might work, that's what I was directed to at the main Taiwan
site. Found some others that had people TRYING to get it to work, but
nothing I would direct you to as THE answer.
All the other sites [mirrors or other nation Biostar sites] do NOT have
drivers for 9X, the systems supported are 2000, XP, and VISTA.

You could try on some of the tweak or mod sites like MSFN Or Tom's Harware
to see if anyone found something or modified files for it..

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
| > "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...
| > | I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4
| > Ultra
| > | A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to
get
| > | the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or
maybe a
| > | work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a
| > Safe
| > | Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device
| > Manager
| > | only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as
it
| > is
| > | listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS
Compatibility
| > | Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but
there
| > | isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help
me in
| > | rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most
appreciated?
| >
| > Someone tell those morons at BIOSTAR that making flash the *required*
entry
| > point is THE STUPIDEST idea that any web page can have.....
| >
| > Has everyone on this planet become brain dead or what .... or is it
that
| > these dimwitted doofuses don't keep up with what is being used as hack
| > points to people's systems, or maybe they just don't care ...
| >
| > Did you install the motherboard drivers?
| > http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/driver.php?S_ID=283
| >
| > EXPANSION SLOT
| > # 4 x PCI
| > # 2 x PCI-E x 1
| > # 1 x PCI-E x 16
| > I/O
| > # 1 x PS/2 Mouse, 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port
| > # 1 x Serial Port
| > # 10 x USB 2.0 Ports (4 x Rear USB 2.0 , 6 x Front USB 2.0 )
| > # 3 x Audio Ports
| > # 1 x RJ-45 LAN Jack
| > # 1 x Floppy Connector
| > # 2 x IDE Connectors (Ultra DMA100/133)
| > # 4 x SATA Connectors
| > # 1 x S/PDIF Out Connector
| > # 1 x CD-in Connector
| > # 1 x System Fan Connector
| > # 1 x CPU Fan Connector
| > # 1 x NorthBridge FAN Connector
| > # 1 x Front Audio Header
| > # 1 x Printer Header
| > INTEGRATED AUDIO
| > # Realtek ALC655 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC
| > LAN
| > # Marrvell 88E1116 - Integrated 10/100/1000 transceiver.
| > SATA / RAID
| > # RAID 0,1,0+1
| > HARDWARE MONITOR FUNCTION
| > # CPU Fan Speed
| > # CPU Voltage
| > # DIMM Voltage
| > # CPU Temperature
| > Accessories
| > # 1 x User Manual
| > # 1 x HDD Cable
| > # 1 x FDD Cable
| > # 1 x SATA Cable
| > # 1 x Real I/O Panel for ATX Case
| > # 1 x Fully Setup Driver
| > SIZE
| > # ATX Form Factor: 21.8cm (W) x 29.3cm (L)
| >
| > --
| > MEB
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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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[philo]

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05839973-C27C-4E86-B39B-6A53A153E6DE@microsoft.com...
>
>
> Philo,
> Does anyone make aftermarket or custom drivers for these situations,
> where the manufactureer does not provide them?
>


If the mfg does not provide win98 drivers...then they just plain do not
exist.

My recommendation would be to use a newer OS or else get an older board with
win98 support.


If you absolutely insist on using that board and win98 the only work-around
would be to
get a PCI controller for your harddrive and CD ( One that you can confirm
has win98 support)

Of course you would also need to get win98-supported cards for any on-board
devices...
but your machine would need PCI slots rather than PCI-e



> "philo" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...
> > > I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4
> > Ultra
> > > A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to
get
> > > the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or
maybe a
> > > work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a
> > Safe
> > > Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device
> > Manager
> > > only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as
it
> > is
> > > listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS
Compatibility
> > > Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but
there
> > > isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help
me in
> > > rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most
appreciated?
> >
> >
> > You will need to install the chipset drivers.
> > It's possible that the board is too new to have win98 drivers.
> > If that's the case, you will need to use a supported OS...probably win2k
or
> > XP
> >
> >
> >

 

[Fan924]

> "Bob L." <B...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode.

I just went through this on a 2.6Ghz Gateway E6100. Nothing worked.
Then I tried this. Go into the BIOS. Change ATA/IDE Confiuration from
"ENHANCED" to "LEGACY". No more MSDOS mode!