Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

[dk_]

How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the
bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1
minute?

When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes
black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running
fine.

msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

Thanks.

-Dennis

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http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

 

[MEB]

"dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message
news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com...
| How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the
| bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1
| minute?
|
| When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes
| black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running

| fine.
|
| msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"
|
| I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.
|
| Thanks.
|
| -Dennis
|
| --
| Dennis Kessler
| http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking
issues.
Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other
potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your issue,
as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You
also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run
{registry} services affecting this as well.

Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what may
be taking so long.

Here's an example:

InitDone = Final USER
Init = Installable Drivers
InitDone = Installable Drivers
Init = TSRQuery
InitDone = TSRQuery
[00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
(PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)
[00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
(PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)
[00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)
[00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)
[0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)
[0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)
Terminate = User
Terminate = Query Drivers
EndTerminate = Query Drivers
Terminate = Unload Network
EndTerminate = Unload Network

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[Fan924]

The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if
autoexec.bat is empty.

logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is
not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden
inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave
action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address.

 

[dadiOH]

dk_ wrote:
> How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at
> the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black
> screen for 1 minute?
>
> When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen
> goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine
> is running fine.
>
> msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"



> I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is
(should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want?

dadiOH

 

[dk_]

In article <ep9r2qKkIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message
> news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com...
> | How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the
> | bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1
> | minute?
> |
> | When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes
> | black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running
>
> | fine.
> |
> | msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"
> |
> | I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> | -Dennis
> |
> | --
> | Dennis Kessler
> | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture
>
> This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking
> issues.
> Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other
> potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your issue,
> as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You
> also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run
> {registry} services affecting this as well.
>
> Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what may
> be taking so long.
>
> Here's an example:
>
> InitDone = Final USER
> Init = Installable Drivers
> InitDone = Installable Drivers
> Init = TSRQuery
> InitDone = TSRQuery
> [00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
> (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)
> [00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
> (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)
> [00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)
> [00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)
> [0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)
> [0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)
> Terminate = User
> Terminate = Query Drivers
> EndTerminate = Query Drivers
> Terminate = Unload Network
> EndTerminate = Unload Network
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

Thanks for the info. I was thinking that this was not a problem with the
logo file itself.

Why would a networking problem cause the black screen?

When I open the network control panel, the machine does display a message
saying that the network is not complete. However, the machine behaves
properly with its internet connection. The machine is not connected to
anything except a router and a printer.

I will run a bootlog.txt file and have a look. The machine is not mine, so I
don't know how soon I will be at that machine again.

Thanks.

-Dennis

--
Dennis Kessler
http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

 

[dk_]

In article <Ou#3kdMkIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
"dadiOH" <someone@fuggetit.com> wrote:

> dk_ wrote:
> > How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at
> > the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black
> > screen for 1 minute?
> >
> > When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen
> > goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine
> > is running fine.
> >
> > msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"
>
>
>
> > I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.
>
> Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is
> (should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want?
>
> dadiOH
>
>

I don't think the problem is the file, because the logo should display even
if logo.sys is not in the C: directory. I did look at the file. It's as it
should be. I wonder why I get the black screen before the desktop displays.

Thanks.

-Dennis

--
Dennis Kessler
http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

 

[dk_]

In article
<9f14eb4f-46a3-4c68-9ba3-5299fc5eea31@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Fan924 <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if
> autoexec.bat is empty.
>
> logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is
> not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden
> inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave
> action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address.

I've tried booting with and without the logo.sys file, and the machine still
displays a black screen before the desktop appears.

Thanks.

-Dennis

--
Dennis Kessler
http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:19:44 -0700, dk_ <nobody@spamless.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>In article
><9f14eb4f-46a3-4c68-9ba3-5299fc5eea31@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Fan924 <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if
>> autoexec.bat is empty.
>>
>> logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is
>> not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden
>> inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave
>> action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address.
>
>I've tried booting with and without the logo.sys file, and the machine still
>displays a black screen before the desktop appears.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Dennis

You might like to try selecting Step-By-Step Confirmation in your
bootup menu:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192926

Then at least you will know what is being executed during the long
pause.

It may be that your machine is waiting to obtain an IP address for its
NIC from a DHCP server. If the router is turned off, then your NIC
will be assigned an automatic local IP address in the range
169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220874

You can see whether this is the case by going to Start > Run and
typing "winipcfg".

If there is something (eg antivirus) in your autoexec.bat, then this
may also be responsible for the delay. Go to Start > Run and type
"sysedit".

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Adam]

The "logo-display-mechanism" pseudo code near
the bottom of the following URL ...
http://members.fortunecity.com/shetzl/wn95logo.html
is the best description that I've found about
where the startup screen comes from.

Even if a startup screen is displayed,
there may still be times when the system is
busy starting where the screen goes black.
How long the screen stays black depends on
the speed of your system and how much initialization there is.
Try reducing the amount of initialization by booting into
Safe Mode as a test.


"dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message
news:dwbHj.1342$ph.1082@fe117.usenetserver.com...
> In article <Ou#3kdMkIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> "dadiOH" <someone@fuggetit.com> wrote:
>
> > dk_ wrote:
> > > How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at
> > > the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black
> > > screen for 1 minute?
> > >
> > > When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen
> > > goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine
> > > is running fine.
> > >
> > > msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"
> >
> >
> >
> > > I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.
> >
> > Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is
> > (should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want?
> >
> > dadiOH
> >
> >
>
> I don't think the problem is the file, because the logo should display even
> if logo.sys is not in the C: directory. I did look at the file. It's as it
> should be. I wonder why I get the black screen before the desktop displays.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Dennis
>
> --
> Dennis Kessler
> http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

 

[MEB]

"dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message
news:RtbHj.1341$ph.290@fe117.usenetserver.com...
| In article <ep9r2qKkIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
|
| > "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message
| > news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com...
| > | How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at
the
| > | bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen
for 1
| > | minute?
| > |
| > | When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen
goes
| > | black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is
running
| >
| > | fine.
| > |
| > | msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"
| > |
| > | I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.
| > |
| > | Thanks.
| > |
| > | -Dennis
| > |
| > | --
| > | Dennis Kessler
| > | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture
| >
| > This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking
| > issues.
| > Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other
| > potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your
issue,
| > as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You
| > also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run
| > {registry} services affecting this as well.
| >
| > Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what
may
| > be taking so long.
| >
| > Here's an example:
| >
| > InitDone = Final USER
| > Init = Installable Drivers
| > InitDone = Installable Drivers
| > Init = TSRQuery
| > InitDone = TSRQuery
| > [00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
| > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)
| > [00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500
| > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)
| > [00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)
| > [00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)
| > [0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller
(BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)
| > [0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)
| > Terminate = User
| > Terminate = Query Drivers
| > EndTerminate = Query Drivers
| > Terminate = Unload Network
| > EndTerminate = Unload Network
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| Thanks for the info. I was thinking that this was not a problem with the
| logo file itself.
|
| Why would a networking problem cause the black screen?
|
| When I open the network control panel, the machine does display a message
| saying that the network is not complete. However, the machine behaves
| properly with its internet connection. The machine is not connected to
| anything except a router and a printer.
|
| I will run a bootlog.txt file and have a look. The machine is not mine, so
I
| don't know how soon I will be at that machine again.
|
| Thanks.
|
| -Dennis
|
| --
| Dennis Kessler
| http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

Any delayed loading, or potentially crucial loads may cause the black/blank
screen when the load process waits for a proper response.
Another, as previously indicated, can be the networking aspects.
When loading, if the memory area, devices, or other are addressed/accessed
during startup, they MAY release/override that segment which causes logo.sys
to black/blank. PCI issues were also a cause.

Fix the network issues and see if that doesn't fix the issue.

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MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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