Spybot say REGFIX.EXE is a threat - why?

T

Terry Pinnell

Why does Spybot report RegistryFix.exe as a threat please? I gather it
arises from a free registry repairing utility called RegCure, which
has a poor reputation. Over-hyped, useless, grayware, etc. Lots of
criticism found from a few minutes googling.

But I haven't seen a single solid piece of objective evidence (in
contrast to idle rumour and speculation) that it is either a virus or
a trojan or any other sort of malware. Is it?

If not, why does Spybot report Regfix.exe as a threat?

BTW, doesn't Spybot offer the option of studying *details* of its
results? A single word 'RegistryFix.exe' doesn't tell you much. In
some other programs I recall being able to read details of the
entries. Maybe there's a setting in Spybot I've missed?

--
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J

jen

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:jfkfv357f7vreo52mku6pb201eo00ckomv@4ax.com...
> Why does Spybot report RegistryFix.exe as a threat please? I gather it
> arises from a free registry repairing utility called RegCure, which
> has a poor reputation. Over-hyped, useless, grayware, etc. Lots of
> criticism found from a few minutes googling.
>
> But I haven't seen a single solid piece of objective evidence (in
> contrast to idle rumour and speculation) that it is either a virus or
> a trojan or any other sort of malware. Is it?
>
> If not, why does Spybot report Regfix.exe as a threat?
>
> BTW, doesn't Spybot offer the option of studying *details* of its
> results? A single word 'RegistryFix.exe' doesn't tell you much. In
> some other programs I recall being able to read details of the
> entries. Maybe there's a setting in Spybot I've missed?

Go here:
http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=16

-jen
 
S

Sirtokalott

Spybot reports all attempts to change the registry. It even reports it'self
when it makes changes after a scan. Basically if you have done nothing and
then the message suddenly appears I would not allow it, however if you have
instigated something, e.g. installing a programme and you get the warning
then allow it

"Terry Pinnell" wrote:

> Why does Spybot report RegistryFix.exe as a threat please? I gather it
> arises from a free registry repairing utility called RegCure, which
> has a poor reputation. Over-hyped, useless, grayware, etc. Lots of
> criticism found from a few minutes googling.
>
> But I haven't seen a single solid piece of objective evidence (in
> contrast to idle rumour and speculation) that it is either a virus or
> a trojan or any other sort of malware. Is it?
>
> If not, why does Spybot report Regfix.exe as a threat?
>
> BTW, doesn't Spybot offer the option of studying *details* of its
> results? A single word 'RegistryFix.exe' doesn't tell you much. In
> some other programs I recall being able to read details of the
> entries. Maybe there's a setting in Spybot I've missed?
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK
>
 
J

jen

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
> http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm

Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr 5
2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )

-jen
 
L

Leythos

In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>
> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr 5
> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )

I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
at dates and threading yourself.

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jen

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr
>> 5
>> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )
> I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
> at dates and threading yourself.

Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster) that the
poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th.
Sheesh!
FYI the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca

HTH,
-jen
 
L

Leythos

In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> > says...
> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr
> >> 5
> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )
> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
> > at dates and threading yourself.
>
> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster) that the
> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th.
> Sheesh!
> FYI the thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>
No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.

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J

jen

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> > says...
>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
>> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat,
>> >> Apr
>> >> 5
>> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )
>> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should
>> > look
>> > at dates and threading yourself.
>> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster) that
>> the
>> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>> 5th.
>> Sheesh!
>> FYI the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
> No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.

No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly
is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
ATM.
BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!

-jen
 
L

Leythos

In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> > says...
> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> >> > says...
> >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat,
> >> >> Apr
> >> >> 5
> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )
> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should
> >> > look
> >> > at dates and threading yourself.
> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster) that
> >> the
> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
> >> 5th.
> >> Sheesh!
> >> FYI the thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>
> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly
> is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
> ATM.
> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!

No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
(NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.

If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet
client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the
Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
server owned by MS.

Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.

Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is
open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
that you want.

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jen

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227d6a8564d57caf989744@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
> says...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...
>> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> > says...
>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
>> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>> >> > jen@example.com
>> >> > says...
>> >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted
>> >> >> Sat,
>> >> >> Apr
>> >> >> 5
>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum
>> >> >> )
>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you
>> >> > should
>> >> > look
>> >> > at dates and threading yourself.
>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster)
>> >> that
>> >> the
>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>> >> 5th.
>> >> Sheesh!
>> >> FYI the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it
>> certainly
>> is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
>> ATM.
>> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.
> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real
> Usenet
> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to
> the
> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
> server owned by MS.
> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.
> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet
> is
> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
> that you want.

I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not
) If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then
Google would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few
servers(including mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to
see where an article is being posted from, if you know how, that is )
Microsoft does *not* peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a
part of Usenet, peroid. Do your homework...

-jen
 
P

pcbutts1 [MS MVP]

Umm Jen, you are arguing with a troll. Be careful he might start stalking
you like he does me.

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"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:uB3yHt%23pIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227d6a8564d57caf989744@adfree.usenet.com...
>> In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> says...
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>>> > says...
>>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat,
>>> >> >> Apr
>>> >> >> 5
>>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )
>>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should
>>> >> > look
>>> >> > at dates and threading yourself.
>>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster) that
>>> >> the
>>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>>> >> 5th.
>>> >> Sheesh!
>>> >> FYI the thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
>>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly
>>> is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
>>> ATM.
>>> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
>> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
>> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.
>> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet
>> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the
>> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
>> server owned by MS.
>> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.
>> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is
>> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
>> that you want.
>
> I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not )
> If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then Google
> would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few servers(including
> mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an article
> is being posted from, if you know how, that is ) Microsoft does *not*
> peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a part of Usenet, peroid.
> Do your homework...
>
> -jen
>
 
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Leythos

In article <bKPQj.3562$26.1647@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, pcbutts1
@leythosthestalker.com says...
> Umm Jen, you are arguing with a troll. Be careful he might start stalking
> you like he does me.

Considering you're not an MVP, considering you've posted links to the
porn you host on your site to many Usenet groups, considering that none
of the MVP's believe you.....

This is Usenet, even if you have a Web interface to it.

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FromTheRafters

"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...
>> In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> says...
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>>> > says...
>>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>>> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat, Apr
>>> >> 5
>>> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )
>>> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should look
>>> > at dates and threading yourself.
>>> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster) that the
>>> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the 5th.
>>> Sheesh!
>>> FYI the thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>> No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>
> No, this is not Usenet.

Yes, it is. The NNTP protocol - newsgroups - usenet.

It is MS's server,
MS's *news* server (NNTP)

> whom allows archiving by Google and allows other NSP's to carry their
> groups. But it certainly is *not* Usenet...

Yes, it is.

> I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server ATM.

MS's *news* server.

> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!

Google provides a web interface to usenet newsgroups. It is
still usenet.
 
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FromTheRafters

"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:uB3yHt%23pIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227d6a8564d57caf989744@adfree.usenet.com...
>> In article <erYWW$9pIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>> says...
>>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.227d55ea4043c4ca989740@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> > In article <es4IkH9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>>> > says...
>>> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> >> news:MPG.227d1d98fe44d0598973c@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> >> > In article <OWZyO5ypIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:MPG.227c2c462303b41e989739@adfree.usenet.com...
>>> >> >> > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136099.htm
>>> >> >> Sheesh, ppl... The article you're responding to was posted Sat,
>>> >> >> Apr
>>> >> >> 5
>>> >> >> 2008 3:29 pm. Op found his answer long ago on the Spybot forum )
>>> >> > I replied to a post from the 25th of this month, maybe you should
>>> >> > look
>>> >> > at dates and threading yourself.
>>> >> Thats why i wrote: "Sheesh, *ppl*" ) The OP(Original Poster) that
>>> >> the
>>> >> poster you replied to was replying to, posted his questions on the
>>> >> 5th.
>>> >> Sheesh!
>>> >> FYI the thread:
> http://groups.google.com/group/micr...6c7bc5bcb?hide_quotes=no#msg_b1e8079d7bb4ecca
>>> > No honorable person uses Google Groups, this is Usenet.
>>> No, this is not Usenet. It is MS's server, whom allows archiving by
>>> Google and allows other NSP's to carry their groups. But it certainly
>>> is *not* Usenet... I don't use Google Groups. I am on MS's server
>>> ATM.
>>> BTW, Google archives is *not* Google Groups, lol!
>> No, it is USENET, and many companies, like MS, connect their Usenet
>> (NEWS) feeds to Usenet, like MS has done.
>> If you are using a MS Usenet server via Outlook Express or a real Usenet
>> client tool, then good for you. If you are using a WEB interface to the
>> Usenet Groups, even on a MS server, it's a port/interface to Usenet
>> server owned by MS.
>> Look up Usenet and learn a little about it.
>> Oh, and Google doesn't give a rats butt about what MS permits, Usenet is
>> open to anyone and everyone and you are free to archive any part of it
>> that you want.
>
> I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is not )
> If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then Google
> would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few servers(including
> mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an article
> is being posted from, if you know how, that is ) Microsoft does *not*
> peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a part of Usenet, peroid.
> Do your homework...

Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they
do
use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
 
L

Leythos

In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
says...
> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but they
> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.

If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
can subscribe to them.

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FromTheRafters

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
> says...
>> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but
>> they
>> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
>
> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
> can subscribe to them.

....or archive them.

In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.

So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
microsoft by only carrying their groups.
 
J

jen

*(Snipped attribution restored)*
"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...
"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:uB3yHt%23pIHA.3680@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
says...
> > I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is
> > not )
> > If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then
> > Google
> > would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few
> > servers(including
> > mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an
> > article
> > is being posted from, if you know how, that is ) Microsoft does
> > *not*
> > peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a part of Usenet,
> > peroid.
> > Do your homework...
> > > Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups,
> > > but they
> > > do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet
> server
> can subscribe to them.

What makes you think I'm a "she"? My nym is *not* a name... You seem
to be very presumptive ) From the "horses mouth":
What are the Microsoft newsgroups?
"For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public
newsgroup hierarchy and made it *available to anyone ON the Usenet*(my
emphasis)".
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh[ln]newswhelp
Also see here:
[FAQ] How to add the microsoft.* hierarchy to a news server:
Last-modified: 2007/08/02
Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft
products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out
what your peers think and getting information from people who use the
same products and technologies you use.
The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on
Usenet for a number of years.
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt

Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public*
groups "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Get it yet? I'm not going
to waste any more of my time educating you. As I said before, do your
homework!

-jen
 
J

jen

"FromTheRafters" <Erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...
>> In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
>> says...
>>> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups,
>>> but they
>>> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
>> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
>> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet
>> server
>> can subscribe to them.
> ...or archive them.
> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
> So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
> microsoft by only carrying their groups.

I'm simply using MS's newsserver ATM for their groups. My own
newsserver carries *all* the hierarchies... To be on MS's server for
their groups is more desirable to me.

-jen(not a name)
 
L

Leythos

In article <eQht0JKqIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
says...
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.227dbe33a471a0e398974b@adfree.usenet.com...
> > In article <OX4qnxAqIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, Erratic@ne.rr.com
> > says...
> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but
> >> they
> >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
> >
> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
> > can subscribe to them.
>
> ...or archive them.
>
> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
>
> So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
> microsoft by only carrying their groups.

I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service in
the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web
interface for it.

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