Displaying the path to ISP provider

S

SANTANDER

what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router where
my pc gets internet from.

Thanks
 
I

Ingeborg

SANTANDER wrote:

> what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router
> where my pc gets internet from.
>

Do you mean 'tracert www.isp.com' ?
 
S

SANTANDER

"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
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> SANTANDER wrote:
>
>> what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router
>> where my pc gets internet from.
>>
>
> Do you mean 'tracert www.isp.com' ?

no, no any relations with this.
I need know exact and detailed patch from my PC to my ISP (Internet Service
Provider) computer, not web hosting.
 
F

Fan924

Click Start, and then click Run.
type
winipcfg
then ok
 
M

MEB

"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
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| what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router
where
| my pc gets internet from.
|
| Thanks
|

Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when using
ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you can
PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.
Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
> ping {router/gateway address}
> ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text file of all
IP-addies}
> tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

Other commands:
cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
clicfg - SQL client config
cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections using
NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
net - Network Diagnostics and commands
netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and current
TCP/IP network connections.
netwatch - Net Watcher
route - TCP/IP Route Command
winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible] gives a
few more:
netmon - network monitor
poledit - policy editor
pwledit - password editor
rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
regsrv - remote registry

XP has some more:
bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
getsid - {obvious}
httpcfg - http config util
ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
netdom -
netset
nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
pptp ping - pptp diag
rasdiag - remote access diag
rsdiag - remote storage diag
showaccs - show access
snmputil
snmputilg
whoami

I left out a few, so...

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S

SANTANDER

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router
> where
> | my pc gets internet from.
> |
> | Thanks
> |
>
> Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
>
> IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when using
> ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you can
> PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.
> Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
> > ping {router/gateway address}
> > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text file of
all
> IP-addies}
> > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
>
> Other commands:
> cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
> clicfg - SQL client config
> cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
> cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
> dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
> fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
> nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections
using
> NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
> net - Network Diagnostics and commands
> netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and
current
> TCP/IP network connections.
> netwatch - Net Watcher
> route - TCP/IP Route Command
> winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
>
> Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible] gives
a
> few more:
> netmon - network monitor
> poledit - policy editor
> pwledit - password editor
> rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
> regsrv - remote registry
>
> XP has some more:
> bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
> browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
> dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
> dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
> getsid - {obvious}
> httpcfg - http config util
> ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
> netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
> netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
> netdom -
> netset
> nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
> pptp ping - pptp diag
> rasdiag - remote access diag
> rsdiag - remote storage diag
> showaccs - show access
> snmputil
> snmputilg
> whoami
>
> I left out a few, so...
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
---------
I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names, i.e.
determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the
intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are between my
pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need be
specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway address? (i
can see it from winipcfg)

tracert IP

thanks
 
M

MEB

Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

tracert {actual IP address}

Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,, try
netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery tools
available.

TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a
preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many
server AND/OR IS logged}.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
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|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| >
| >
| > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router
| > where
| > | my pc gets internet from.
| > |
| > | Thanks
| > |
| >
| > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
| >
| > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when
using
| > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you can
| > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.
| > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
| > > ping {router/gateway address}
| > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text file of
| all
| > IP-addies}
| > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
| >
| > Other commands:
| > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
| > clicfg - SQL client config
| > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
| > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
| > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
| > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
| > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections
| using
| > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
| > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
| > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and
| current
| > TCP/IP network connections.
| > netwatch - Net Watcher
| > route - TCP/IP Route Command
| > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
| >
| > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]
gives
| a
| > few more:
| > netmon - network monitor
| > poledit - policy editor
| > pwledit - password editor
| > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
| > regsrv - remote registry
| >
| > XP has some more:
| > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
| > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
| > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
| > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
| > getsid - {obvious}
| > httpcfg - http config util
| > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
| > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
| > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
| > netdom -
| > netset
| > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
| > pptp ping - pptp diag
| > rasdiag - remote access diag
| > rsdiag - remote storage diag
| > showaccs - show access
| > snmputil
| > snmputilg
| > whoami
| >
| > I left out a few, so...
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| ---------
| I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names, i.e.
| determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the
| intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are between my
| pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need be
| specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway address? (i
| can see it from winipcfg)
|
| tracert IP
|
| thanks
|
 
S

SANTANDER

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?
>
> tracert {actual IP address}
>
> Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,, try
> netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery
> tools
> available.
>
> TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a
> preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many
> server AND/OR IS logged}.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>
> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | >
> | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP
> router
> | > where
> | > | my pc gets internet from.
> | > |
> | > | Thanks
> | > |
> | >
> | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
> | >
> | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when
> using
> | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you
> can
> | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.
> | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
> | > > ping {router/gateway address}
> | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text file
> of
> | all
> | > IP-addies}
> | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
> | >
> | > Other commands:
> | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
> | > clicfg - SQL client config
> | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
> | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
> | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
> | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
> | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections
> | using
> | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
> | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
> | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and
> | current
> | > TCP/IP network connections.
> | > netwatch - Net Watcher
> | > route - TCP/IP Route Command
> | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
> | >
> | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]
> gives
> | a
> | > few more:
> | > netmon - network monitor
> | > poledit - policy editor
> | > pwledit - password editor
> | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
> | > regsrv - remote registry
> | >
> | > XP has some more:
> | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
> | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
> | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
> | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
> | > getsid - {obvious}
> | > httpcfg - http config util
> | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
> | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
> | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
> | > netdom -
> | > netset
> | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
> | > pptp ping - pptp diag
> | > rasdiag - remote access diag
> | > rsdiag - remote storage diag
> | > showaccs - show access
> | > snmputil
> | > snmputilg
> | > whoami
> | >
> | > I left out a few, so...
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | ---------
> | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names, i.e.
> | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the
> | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are between
> my
> | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need be
> | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway address?
> (i
> | can see it from winipcfg)
> |
> | tracert IP
> |
> | thanks
-----------

I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or data
may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router which
work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

S.
 
M

MEB

"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
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|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?
| >
| > tracert {actual IP address}
| >
| > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,,
try
| > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery
| > tools
| > available.
| >
| > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a
| > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many
| > server AND/OR IS logged}.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
| > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP
| > router
| > | > where
| > | > | my pc gets internet from.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
| > | >
| > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when
| > using
| > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you
| > can
| > | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.
| > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
| > | > > ping {router/gateway address}
| > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text
file
| > of
| > | all
| > | > IP-addies}
| > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
| > | >
| > | > Other commands:
| > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
| > | > clicfg - SQL client config
| > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
| > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
| > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
| > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
| > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP
connections
| > | using
| > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
| > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
| > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and
| > | current
| > | > TCP/IP network connections.
| > | > netwatch - Net Watcher
| > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command
| > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
| > | >
| > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]
| > gives
| > | a
| > | > few more:
| > | > netmon - network monitor
| > | > poledit - policy editor
| > | > pwledit - password editor
| > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
| > | > regsrv - remote registry
| > | >
| > | > XP has some more:
| > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
| > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
| > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
| > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
| > | > getsid - {obvious}
| > | > httpcfg - http config util
| > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
| > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
| > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
| > | > netdom -
| > | > netset
| > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
| > | > pptp ping - pptp diag
| > | > rasdiag - remote access diag
| > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag
| > | > showaccs - show access
| > | > snmputil
| > | > snmputilg
| > | > whoami
| > | >
| > | > I left out a few, so...
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | ---------
| > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,
i.e.
| > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the
| > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are
between
| > my
| > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need
be
| > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway
address?
| > (i
| > | can see it from winipcfg)
| > |
| > | tracert IP
| > |
| > | thanks
| -----------
|
| I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or data
| may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router which
| work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.
|
| S.
|

AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in different
regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access]. You're
interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you get
your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if necessary
and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.
Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing router,
adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set properly. If
on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection methods
as well], and MUST be properly setup.

IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools that may
be used against that specific segment of your net.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
 
A

AlmostBob

When you get that information
be also aware that the route returned is specific to the packet sent, there
is no guarantee that prior packets, or subsequent packets, follow the same
route through the same addresses,
only the destination is fixed
https
secureFTP were developed for secure transmission, use them

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Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
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Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
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"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
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>
> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?
> >
> > tracert {actual IP address}
> >
> > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,,
try
> > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery
> > tools
> > available.
> >
> > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a
> > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many
> > server AND/OR IS logged}.
> >
> > --
> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > --
> > _________
> >
> >
> > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > |
> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > | >
> > | >
> > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP
> > router
> > | > where
> > | > | my pc gets internet from.
> > | > |
> > | > | Thanks
> > | > |
> > | >
> > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
> > | >
> > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when
> > using
> > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you
> > can
> > | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.
> > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
> > | > > ping {router/gateway address}
> > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text
file
> > of
> > | all
> > | > IP-addies}
> > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
> > | >
> > | > Other commands:
> > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
> > | > clicfg - SQL client config
> > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
> > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
> > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
> > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
> > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP
connections
> > | using
> > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
> > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
> > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and
> > | current
> > | > TCP/IP network connections.
> > | > netwatch - Net Watcher
> > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command
> > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
> > | >
> > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]
> > gives
> > | a
> > | > few more:
> > | > netmon - network monitor
> > | > poledit - policy editor
> > | > pwledit - password editor
> > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
> > | > regsrv - remote registry
> > | >
> > | > XP has some more:
> > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
> > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
> > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
> > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
> > | > getsid - {obvious}
> > | > httpcfg - http config util
> > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
> > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
> > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
> > | > netdom -
> > | > netset
> > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
> > | > pptp ping - pptp diag
> > | > rasdiag - remote access diag
> > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag
> > | > showaccs - show access
> > | > snmputil
> > | > snmputilg
> > | > whoami
> > | >
> > | > I left out a few, so...
> > | >
> > | > --
> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> > | ---------
> > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,
i.e.
> > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the
> > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are
between
> > my
> > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need
be
> > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway
address?
> > (i
> > | can see it from winipcfg)
> > |
> > | tracert IP
> > |
> > | thanks
> -----------
>
> I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or data
> may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router which
> work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.
>
> S.
>
 
S

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> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
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> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?
> | >
> | > tracert {actual IP address}
> | >
> | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,,
> try
> | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery
> | > tools
> | > available.
> | >
> | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a
> | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by
many
> | > server AND/OR IS logged}.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP
> | > router
> | > | > where
> | > | > | my pc gets internet from.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Thanks
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
> | > | >
> | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps
when
> | > using
> | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then
you
> | > can
> | > | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.
> | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
> | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}
> | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text
> file
> | > of
> | > | all
> | > | > IP-addies}
> | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
> | > | >
> | > | > Other commands:
> | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
> | > | > clicfg - SQL client config
> | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
> | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
> | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
> | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
> | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP
> connections
> | > | using
> | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
> | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
> | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics
and
> | > | current
> | > | > TCP/IP network connections.
> | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher
> | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command
> | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
> | > | >
> | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if
possible]
> | > gives
> | > | a
> | > | > few more:
> | > | > netmon - network monitor
> | > | > poledit - policy editor
> | > | > pwledit - password editor
> | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
> | > | > regsrv - remote registry
> | > | >
> | > | > XP has some more:
> | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
> | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
> | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
> | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
> | > | > getsid - {obvious}
> | > | > httpcfg - http config util
> | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
> | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
> | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
> | > | > netdom -
> | > | > netset
> | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
> | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag
> | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag
> | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag
> | > | > showaccs - show access
> | > | > snmputil
> | > | > snmputilg
> | > | > whoami
> | > | >
> | > | > I left out a few, so...
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | ---------
> | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,
> i.e.
> | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the
> | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are
> between
> | > my
> | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need
> be
> | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway
> address?
> | > (i
> | > | can see it from winipcfg)
> | > |
> | > | tracert IP
> | > |
> | > | thanks
> | -----------
> |
> | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or
data
> | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router
which
> | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.
> |
> | S.
> |
>
> AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in
different
> regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access]. You're
> interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you get
> your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if necessary
> and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.
> Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing
router,
> adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set properly.
If
> on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection
methods
> as well], and MUST be properly setup.
>
> IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools that
may
> be used against that specific segment of your net.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________

Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number, how
this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?

S.
 
M

MEB

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|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:egF7JwCnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > news:OXQFFyAnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?
| > | >
| > | > tracert {actual IP address}
| > | >
| > | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services"
available,,
| > try
| > | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network
discovery
| > | > tools
| > | > available.
| > | >
| > | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a
| > | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by
| many
| > | > server AND/OR IS logged}.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to
ISP
| > | > router
| > | > | > where
| > | > | > | my pc gets internet from.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Thanks
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps
| when
| > | > using
| > | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then
| you
| > | > can
| > | > | > PING the local router address from the individual
nodes/computers.
| > | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
| > | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}
| > | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text
| > file
| > | > of
| > | > | all
| > | > | > IP-addies}
| > | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Other commands:
| > | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
| > | > | > clicfg - SQL client config
| > | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
| > | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
| > | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
| > | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
| > | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP
| > connections
| > | > | using
| > | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
| > | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
| > | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics
| and
| > | > | current
| > | > | > TCP/IP network connections.
| > | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher
| > | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command
| > | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if
| possible]
| > | > gives
| > | > | a
| > | > | > few more:
| > | > | > netmon - network monitor
| > | > | > poledit - policy editor
| > | > | > pwledit - password editor
| > | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
| > | > | > regsrv - remote registry
| > | > | >
| > | > | > XP has some more:
| > | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
| > | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
| > | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
| > | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
| > | > | > getsid - {obvious}
| > | > | > httpcfg - http config util
| > | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
| > | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
| > | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
| > | > | > netdom -
| > | > | > netset
| > | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
| > | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag
| > | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag
| > | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag
| > | > | > showaccs - show access
| > | > | > snmputil
| > | > | > snmputilg
| > | > | > whoami
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I left out a few, so...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | ---------
| > | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,
| > i.e.
| > | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the
| > | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are
| > between
| > | > my
| > | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP
need
| > be
| > | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway
| > address?
| > | > (i
| > | > | can see it from winipcfg)
| > | > |
| > | > | tracert IP
| > | > |
| > | > | thanks
| > | -----------
| > |
| > | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or
| data
| > | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router
| which
| > | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.
| > |
| > | S.
| > |
| >
| > AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in
| different
| > regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access]. You're
| > interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you
get
| > your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if
necessary
| > and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.
| > Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing
| router,
| > adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set
properly.
| If
| > on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection
| methods
| > as well], and MUST be properly setup.
| >
| > IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools that
| may
| > be used against that specific segment of your net.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
|
| Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number, how
| this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?
|
| S.
|

THAT would and does take a full understanding of packet creation, transmit
headers, and other aspects too lengthy for this forum. However, there are a
number of web sites that have explained the TCP/IP protocol and how networks
[the Internet is a network] use it, in depth.
The short is, MAC is used in conjunction with IP to form and direct the
packet/addressing, MAC CAN be used to identify specific adapters.
This is one way DSL, SAT, and cable providers identify their clients. This
is also basically how cell phones are identified, GPS systems locate you,
and other related things work, by identifying the actual specific device.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________
 
S

SANTANDER

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>
> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
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> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:egF7JwCnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> | > news:OXQFFyAnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?
> | > | >
> | > | > tracert {actual IP address}
> | > | >
> | > | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services"
> available,,
> | > try
> | > | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network
> discovery
> | > | > tools
> | > | > available.
> | > | >
> | > | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or
> a
> | > | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by
> | many
> | > | > server AND/OR IS logged}.
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> | > | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to
> ISP
> | > | > router
> | > | > | > where
> | > | > | > | my pc gets internet from.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Thanks
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or
> perhaps
> | when
> | > | > using
> | > | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection],
> then
> | you
> | > | > can
> | > | > | > PING the local router address from the individual
> nodes/computers.
> | > | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
> | > | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}
> | > | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a
> text
> | > file
> | > | > of
> | > | > | all
> | > | > | > IP-addies}
> | > | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Other commands:
> | > | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
> | > | > | > clicfg - SQL client config
> | > | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
> | > | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
> | > | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
> | > | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
> | > | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP
> | > connections
> | > | > | using
> | > | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
> | > | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
> | > | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol
> statistics
> | and
> | > | > | current
> | > | > | > TCP/IP network connections.
> | > | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher
> | > | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command
> | > | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if
> | possible]
> | > | > gives
> | > | > | a
> | > | > | > few more:
> | > | > | > netmon - network monitor
> | > | > | > poledit - policy editor
> | > | > | > pwledit - password editor
> | > | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
> | > | > | > regsrv - remote registry
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > XP has some more:
> | > | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
> | > | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
> | > | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
> | > | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
> | > | > | > getsid - {obvious}
> | > | > | > httpcfg - http config util
> | > | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
> | > | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
> | > | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
> | > | > | > netdom -
> | > | > | > netset
> | > | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
> | > | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag
> | > | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag
> | > | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag
> | > | > | > showaccs - show access
> | > | > | > snmputil
> | > | > | > snmputilg
> | > | > | > whoami
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > I left out a few, so...
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > | ---------
> | > | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host
> names,
> | > i.e.
> | > | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of
> the
> | > | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are
> | > between
> | > | > my
> | > | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP
> need
> | > be
> | > | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway
> | > address?
> | > | > (i
> | > | > | can see it from winipcfg)
> | > | > |
> | > | > | tracert IP
> | > | > |
> | > | > | thanks
> | > | -----------
> | > |
> | > | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router,
> or
> | data
> | > | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router
> | which
> | > | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.
> | > |
> | > | S.
> | > |
> | >
> | > AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in
> | different
> | > regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access].
> You're
> | > interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you
> get
> | > your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if
> necessary
> | > and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.
> | > Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing
> | router,
> | > adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set
> properly.
> | If
> | > on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection
> | methods
> | > as well], and MUST be properly setup.
> | >
> | > IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools
> that
> | may
> | > be used against that specific segment of your net.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> |
> | Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number,
> how
> | this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?
> |
> | S.
> |
>
> THAT would and does take a full understanding of packet creation, transmit
> headers, and other aspects too lengthy for this forum. However, there are
> a
> number of web sites that have explained the TCP/IP protocol and how
> networks
> [the Internet is a network] use it, in depth.
> The short is, MAC is used in conjunction with IP to form and direct the
> packet/addressing, MAC CAN be used to identify specific adapters.
> This is one way DSL, SAT, and cable providers identify their clients. This
> is also basically how cell phones are identified, GPS systems locate you,
> and other related things work, by identifying the actual specific device.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
-----------------------------------
MAC can be used only to identify specific adapters, i.e. whether this modem
is online(switched on) or not? If provider, for whatever reason, want
identify the computer where the message or email was sent from, they need
know IP address, not MAC? If user is behind online anonymous proxy server,
there is no way to detect the computer where the message was sent from, even
if they know modem MAC address?

S.
 
M

MEB

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| > | >
| > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > | > news:OXQFFyAnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > tracert {actual IP address}
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services"
| > available,,
| > | > try
| > | > | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network
| > discovery
| > | > | > tools
| > | > | > available.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack
or
| > a
| > | > | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked
by
| > | many
| > | > | > server AND/OR IS logged}.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC
to
| > ISP
| > | > | > router
| > | > | > | > where
| > | > | > | > | my pc gets internet from.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or
| > perhaps
| > | when
| > | > | > using
| > | > | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection],
| > then
| > | you
| > | > | > can
| > | > | > | > PING the local router address from the individual
| > nodes/computers.
| > | > | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:
| > | > | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}
| > | > | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a
| > text
| > | > file
| > | > | > of
| > | > | > | all
| > | > | > | > IP-addies}
| > | > | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Other commands:
| > | > | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config
| > | > | > | > clicfg - SQL client config
| > | > | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager
| > | > | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor
| > | > | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration
| > | > | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too
| > | > | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP
| > | > connections
| > | > | > | using
| > | > | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).
| > | > | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands
| > | > | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol
| > statistics
| > | and
| > | > | > | current
| > | > | > | > TCP/IP network connections.
| > | > | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher
| > | > | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command
| > | > | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if
| > | possible]
| > | > | > gives
| > | > | > | a
| > | > | > | > few more:
| > | > | > | > netmon - network monitor
| > | > | > | > poledit - policy editor
| > | > | > | > pwledit - password editor
| > | > | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP
| > | > | > | > regsrv - remote registry
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > XP has some more:
| > | > | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility
| > | > | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility
| > | > | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server
| > | > | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility
| > | > | > | > getsid - {obvious}
| > | > | > | > httpcfg - http config util
| > | > | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility
| > | > | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file
| > | > | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics
| > | > | > | > netdom -
| > | > | > | > netset
| > | > | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility
| > | > | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag
| > | > | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag
| > | > | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag
| > | > | > | > showaccs - show access
| > | > | > | > snmputil
| > | > | > | > snmputilg
| > | > | > | > whoami
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > I left out a few, so...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > | ---------
| > | > | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host
| > names,
| > | > i.e.
| > | > | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of
| > the
| > | > | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres
are
| > | > between
| > | > | > my
| > | > | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What
IP
| > need
| > | > be
| > | > | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway
| > | > address?
| > | > | > (i
| > | > | > | can see it from winipcfg)
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | tracert IP
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | thanks
| > | > | -----------
| > | > |
| > | > | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router,
| > or
| > | data
| > | > | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate)
router
| > | which
| > | > | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.
| > | > |
| > | > | S.
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | > AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in
| > | different
| > | > regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access].
| > You're
| > | > interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once
you
| > get
| > | > your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if
| > necessary
| > | > and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.
| > | > Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing
| > | router,
| > | > adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set
| > properly.
| > | If
| > | > on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection
| > | methods
| > | > as well], and MUST be properly setup.
| > | >
| > | > IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools
| > that
| > | may
| > | > be used against that specific segment of your net.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > |
| > | Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number,
| > how
| > | this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?
| > |
| > | S.
| > |
| >
| > THAT would and does take a full understanding of packet creation,
transmit
| > headers, and other aspects too lengthy for this forum. However, there
are
| > a
| > number of web sites that have explained the TCP/IP protocol and how
| > networks
| > [the Internet is a network] use it, in depth.
| > The short is, MAC is used in conjunction with IP to form and direct the
| > packet/addressing, MAC CAN be used to identify specific adapters.
| > This is one way DSL, SAT, and cable providers identify their clients.
This
| > is also basically how cell phones are identified, GPS systems locate
you,
| > and other related things work, by identifying the actual specific
device.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| -----------------------------------
| MAC can be used only to identify specific adapters, i.e. whether this
modem
| is online(switched on) or not? If provider, for whatever reason, want
| identify the computer where the message or email was sent from, they need
| know IP address, not MAC? If user is behind online anonymous proxy
server,
| there is no way to detect the computer where the message was sent from,
even
| if they know modem MAC address?
|
| S.
|

Short answer: you're wrong in your assumptions. Please check for packet
formation and other readily available information on the Internet. See also
how hackers attack servers and systems. MOST of the *old information* should
be considered as *historic reference* in value.
$Hundreds of billions were invested worldwide [software and hardware]
specifically to address tracking of illicit and illegal activities. Added
with new Laws erected in every U.N. and W.T.O. charter member nation,
anonymity and privacy is non-existent regardless of the technique used
[unless of course you happen to be some massive world corporation with a
massive legal staff].
Check [V-chip, S-chip, PID, UPnP, and the like] discussions/tech reviews
look at DRM, Carnivore and D.I.R.T and other documentation related to this
activity world wide [see such things as US government's demand for access to
ALL user data bases and compliance by almost all providers {health,
telecomm, cable, SAT, GPS, etc. see same in England, Germany, and
elsewhere}] and think carefully about the ATX *always on/ready* computer.
SOME nations are more protective of their *citizens*, most are quite willing
to partake in the commercial enrichment that compliance provides.
Non-compliance [nation or business] brings economic impact and trade
restrictions.

Also consider: electronic equipment is REQUIRED to emit electronic signals
per standards, in conjunction with the new "military" satellites. All
*sensitive* computer and communication installations are housed in
Electro-emissive secured environments, and on closed networks [check the
number of attacks that some government installation receives, like the
Pentagon : also check the number of purported secure transmission protocols
that have been hacked, such as VPN and SSL, WEP, etc..]..Of course, those
who THINK they have nothing to hide or who believe they are hidden, either
don't know or think about these things, or don't care. This is all
verifiable via various U.N., W.T.O., government, news services, and other
records.
So if anyone still presents that P2P sharing is secured though anonymity,
or via anonymous servers, ignore them, their advise is not based upon the
present state of the world nor the technologies presently being used. Then
again, this is just my considered thoughts on these issues.
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/sniffing.htm
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/carnivore.htm
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/dirt.htm

One of your suggestions partially protects you, and that is turning
off/unplugging the modem or other network connection device. But that's only
partial. You can't ignore the other technologies available and being used,
that's like sticking your head in the sand thinking you're invisible.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
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