Excessive and inappropriate cookies being injected

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Robert A. Macy

What's happening here? How do I stop this from happening?

MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
Host file installed..

Ok. As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK. Cleared
out Recycle Bin. Rebooted. Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
for a home. And VOILA! Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
back again. These are cookies not even associated with the tour. How
is that possible?

As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
Is there someway to stop this in the future?

Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer. I
really need most of that.

There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
too.

Robert
 
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philo

"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
news:aa169309-621e-4f86-972b-8b06f6cace08@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> What's happening here? How do I stop this from happening?
>
> MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
> Host file installed..
>
> Ok. As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK. Cleared
> out Recycle Bin. Rebooted. Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
> for a home. And VOILA! Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
> cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
> back again. These are cookies not even associated with the tour. How
> is that possible?
>
> As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
> somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
> Is there someway to stop this in the future?
>
> Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer. I
> really need most of that.
>
> There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
> Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
> too.
>
> Robert



Your other post mentioned that the machine had a previous owner...
looks like it's filled with spyware.
Though you may want to clean it up by using a utility such as Spybot S &
D...
Since who knows what else is on there...I'd make a note of your drivers...
make sure you can either back them up or have a source for them...
then format the machine and perform a clean install
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Are you referring to Internet Explorer (IE), is IE6 SP1 installed, and is
the machine fully patched at Windows Update?
=============================
Internet Explorer 5.5 SP1 and earlier:

Description of Persistent and Per-Session Cookies in Internet Explorer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/223799/

Per-Session Cookies Are Not Cleared Until You Close Browser:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224304/


How to Set and Customize Cookies Settings in Internet Explorer:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/196955/

Emptying Temporary Internet Files Folder Leaves Cookies Files:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/158769/
==============================
IE6 SP1:

How to Manage Cookies in Internet Explorer 6:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283185/

How to delete cookie files in Internet Explorer 6...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278835/
--
IE6-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

Robert A. Macy wrote:
> What's happening here? How do I stop this from happening?
>
> MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
> Host file installed..
>
> Ok. As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK. Cleared
> out Recycle Bin. Rebooted. Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
> for a home. And VOILA! Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
> cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
> back again. These are cookies not even associated with the tour. How
> is that possible?
>
> As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
> somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
> Is there someway to stop this in the future?
>
> Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer. I
> really need most of that.
>
> There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
> Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
> too.
>
> Robert
 
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Robert A. Macy

On Apr 26, 12:14 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you referring to Internet Explorer (IE), is IE6 SP1 installed, and is
> the machine fully patched at Windows Update?
> =============================
> Internet Explorer 5.5 SP1 and earlier:
>
> Description of Persistent and Per-Session Cookies in Internet Explorerhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/223799/
>
> Per-Session Cookies Are Not Cleared Until You Close Browser:http://support..microsoft.com/kb/224304/
>
> How to Set and Customize Cookies Settings in Internet Explorer:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/196955/
>
> Emptying Temporary Internet Files Folder Leaves Cookies Files:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/158769/
> ==============================
> IE6 SP1:
>
> How to Manage Cookies in Internet Explorer 6:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283185/
>
> How to delete cookie files in Internet Explorer 6...http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278835/
> --
> IE6-specific newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.brows­er
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>
>
>
> Robert A. Macy wrote:
> > What's happening here?  How do I stop this from happening?

>
> > MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
> > Host file installed..

>
> > Ok.  As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK.  Cleared
> > out Recycle Bin.  Rebooted.  Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
> > for a home.  And VOILA!  Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
> > cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
> > back again.  These are cookies not even associated with the tour.  How
> > is that possible?

>
> > As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
> > somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
> > Is there someway to stop this in the future?

>
> > Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer.  I
> > really need most of that.

>
> > There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
> > Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
> > too.

>
> > Robert- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


philo, good heads up, but different machine. note the other question
was about a Win98SE and this one was simply Win98. But has absolutely
no spyware in it.

Pa Bear, will look through these and come back later. Thanks for the
sites.

Robert
 
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philo

"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
news:256a41c8-0581-4ff7-b6ce-69b570ca145a@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 12:14 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you referring to Internet Explorer (IE), is IE6 SP1 installed, and is
> the machine fully patched at Windows Update?
> =============================
> Internet Explorer 5.5 SP1 and earlier:
>
> Description of Persistent and Per-Session Cookies in Internet
> Explorerhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/223799/
>
> Per-Session Cookies Are Not Cleared Until You Close
> Browser:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224304/
>
> How to Set and Customize Cookies Settings in Internet
> Explorer:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/196955/
>
> Emptying Temporary Internet Files Folder Leaves Cookies
> Files:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/158769/
> ==============================
> IE6 SP1:
>
> How to Manage Cookies in Internet Explorer
> 6:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283185/
>
> How to delete cookie files in Internet Explorer
> 6...http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278835/
> --
> IE6-specific newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.brows­er
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>
>
>
> Robert A. Macy wrote:
> > What's happening here? How do I stop this from happening?

>
> > MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
> > Host file installed..

>
> > Ok. As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK. Cleared
> > out Recycle Bin. Rebooted. Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
> > for a home. And VOILA! Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
> > cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
> > back again. These are cookies not even associated with the tour. How
> > is that possible?

>
> > As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
> > somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
> > Is there someway to stop this in the future?

>
> > Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer. I
> > really need most of that.

>
> > There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
> > Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
> > too.

>
> > Robert- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


philo, good heads up, but different machine. note the other question
was about a Win98SE and this one was simply Win98. But has absolutely
no spyware in it.

Pa Bear, will look through these and come back later. Thanks for the
sites.


Even though I thought you had posted about the same machine...
win98 and win98se are essentially the same OS.

For you to go to just one URL and get "thousands" of cookies
is not normal at all. ( I assume you are actually getting hundreds rather
than thousands)

Though you should of course have all the critical updates that were issued
for win98/se
I'm just curious how you know you have no spyware.

Even on the machines I setup with only minimal security...
on a normal day of heavy browsing I don't get more than 50 cookies or so
 
D

dadiOH

Robert A. Macy wrote:
> What's happening here? How do I stop this from happening?
>
> MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
> Host file installed..
>
> Ok. As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK. Cleared
> out Recycle Bin. Rebooted. Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
> for a home. And VOILA! Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
> cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
> back again. These are cookies not even associated with the tour. How
> is that possible?
>
> As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
> somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
> Is there someway to stop this in the future?
>
> Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer. I
> really need most of that.
>
> There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
> Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
> too.


You could...

1. Set up IE for more rigorous cookie handling

2. Go get a cookie manager such as CookiePal (there are many others)
http://www.kburra.com/index.html


--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
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Robert A. Macy

On Apr 26, 4:45 pm, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Robert A. Macy wrote:
> > What's happening here?  How do I stop this from happening?

>
> > MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
> > Host file installed..

>
> > Ok.  As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK.  Cleared
> > out Recycle Bin.  Rebooted.  Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
> > for a home.  And VOILA!  Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
> > cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
> > back again.  These are cookies not even associated with the tour.  How
> > is that possible?

>
> > As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
> > somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
> > Is there someway to stop this in the future?

>
> > Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer.  I
> > really need most of that.

>
> > There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
> > Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
> > too.

>
> You could...
>
> 1.  Set up IE for more rigorous cookie handling
>
> 2. Go get a cookie manager such as CookiePal (there are many others)http://www.kburra.com/index.html
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thank you everyone for responding.

It turns out this appears to be a one shot problem caused by going to
a website to pick up some real estate pictures, called SHUTTERFLY

It was like the site grabbed the machine, emptied its contents, and
then gave it back after killing IE6 SP1 !!

Even after going through and clearly EVERY cookie and ALL temp files
of every form, we saw cookies come in from sites not visited that day,
that's why I posted the question. However, after clearing multiple
times, rebooting, and clearing and rebooting have not seen it happen
again.

Don't know whtat happened. Perhaps, some of these 'free' websites
providing a nice service aren't so free and aren't so nice.

Robert
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Not so nice at all.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
news:4e7bf54c-8265-4067-8b12-41d0b334904c@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 4:45 pm, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Robert A. Macy wrote:
> > What's happening here? How do I stop this from happening?

>
> > MS Explorer on Win 98 system collects cookies like crazy even with MV
> > Host file installed..

>
> > Ok. As a test I cleared out all temp and cookies, to BLANK. Cleared
> > out Recycle Bin. Rebooted. Went to a SINGLE website to view a a tour
> > for a home. And VOILA! Thousands [well it seemed like thousands] of
> > cookies with inappropriate URL addresses insinuated themselves right
> > back again. These are cookies not even associated with the tour. How
> > is that possible?

>
> > As part of this experiment, I didn't go to any of the old URL's but
> > somehow their cookies pop right back the minute I got back on line.
> > Is there someway to stop this in the future?

>
> > Please don't tell me to delete the HISTORY files in Explorer. I
> > really need most of that.

>
> > There should be some way to alleviate this collecting of cookies.
> > Although I have to keep cookies open else can't view such tours.
> > too.

>
> You could...
>
> 1. Set up IE for more rigorous cookie handling
>
> 2. Go get a cookie manager such as CookiePal (there are many
> others)http://www.kburra.com/index.html
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thank you everyone for responding.

It turns out this appears to be a one shot problem caused by going to
a website to pick up some real estate pictures, called SHUTTERFLY

It was like the site grabbed the machine, emptied its contents, and
then gave it back after killing IE6 SP1 !!

Even after going through and clearly EVERY cookie and ALL temp files
of every form, we saw cookies come in from sites not visited that day,
that's why I posted the question. However, after clearing multiple
times, rebooting, and clearing and rebooting have not seen it happen
again.

Don't know whtat happened. Perhaps, some of these 'free' websites
providing a nice service aren't so free and aren't so nice.

Robert
 

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