Files in TEMP folder will not delete.

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Frog

I have three files showing in my TEMP file that I cannot remove.
They are:

dfbeba.tmp 134KB
df6346.tmp 134KB
dff19a.tmp 394KB

I believe that the three files are possibly hi-jack files. I was able
to locate these files when I ran Easy Cleaner, but was unsuccessful in
removing them from my system. Any instructions on how to rid my system
of this what ever it is would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Frog
 
M

MEB

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
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|
| I have three files showing in my TEMP file that I cannot remove.
| They are:
|
| dfbeba.tmp 134KB
| df6346.tmp 134KB
| dff19a.tmp 394KB
|
| I believe that the three files are possibly hi-jack files. I was able
| to locate these files when I ran Easy Cleaner, but was unsuccessful in
| removing them from my system. Any instructions on how to rid my system
| of this what ever it is would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks,
| Frog

Are you absolutely sure those files aren't from some running program, or
created by some program for its use?

http://www.google.com/search?q=df*.tmp+files&hl=en


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Gary S. Terhune

There are at least a few applications that create DF... or ~DF... files and
they are mostly legitimate. It is common to not be able to remove some TEMP
files, as they are in use by their application, something running in the
background, like anti-virus, or anything else that keeps a log or otherwise
requires a file that remains open while Windows is running. Generally, you
can delete most of these files after restarting, though nor necessarily all
of them. If you want to check if the files are legit, use MSCONFIG to
disable all startup items, restart, then see if you can delete the files. If
you can, then they belong to one of your background apps. Use MSCONFIG to
selectively whittle down the list and determine which app it is.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have three files showing in my TEMP file that I cannot remove. They
> are:
>
> dfbeba.tmp 134KB
> df6346.tmp 134KB
> dff19a.tmp 394KB
>
> I believe that the three files are possibly hi-jack files. I was able to
> locate these files when I ran Easy Cleaner, but was unsuccessful in
> removing them from my system. Any instructions on how to rid my system of
> this what ever it is would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Frog
 
D

Don Phillipson

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have three files showing in my TEMP file that I cannot remove.
> They are:
>
> dfbeba.tmp 134KB
> df6346.tmp 134KB
> dff19a.tmp 394KB
>
> I believe that the three files are possibly hi-jack files. I was able
> to locate these files when I ran Easy Cleaner, but was unsuccessful in
> removing them from my system.


Standard conservative procedure for isolating
and removing any file you want, regardless of
Windows protection routines.
1. In DOS, rename each with prefix X e.g. xdfbeba.tmp
Then reboot and restart Windows and run the PC as normal.

2. If you get no error messages indicating that you
really need this file(s), you can delete each in a week
or so, or at your next periodical cleanup.
2a. If error messages show this is a good file you genuinely
need, it is easy to rename it correctly
2b. If error messages confirm it is malware, you have
already disabled this file so you can take appropriate
action when convenient.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
 
R

Roger Fink

If they are required or are benign but regenerate, hide 'em. Out of sight
out of mind.

Frog wrote:
> I have three files showing in my TEMP file that I cannot remove.
> They are:
>
> dfbeba.tmp 134KB
> df6346.tmp 134KB
> dff19a.tmp 394KB
>
> I believe that the three files are possibly hi-jack files. I was able
> to locate these files when I ran Easy Cleaner, but was unsuccessful in
> removing them from my system. Any instructions on how to rid my
> system of this what ever it is would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Frog
 
F

Frog

Thanks everybody for the help. Sorry for my delay in getting back to
your responses...I was delayed a bit by out-of-town company.

I did use MSCONFIG to disable all startup items, restarted, and then
reactivated (one entry at a time), with a start restart of my system
after each individual reactivation. The culprit was found to be:

cctray "C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust Internet Security
Suite\cctray\cctray.exe"

Yes, indeed, it is a legitimate virus scan program on my system. I only
have one explanation for why the ~DF*.TMP files suddenly started showing
up in my C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder---I recently updated my virus scan
software to the latest version. I have found out how to get rid of the
continuing growth of these files in the TEMP folder, with the exception
of the two in use files...delete them in DOS, Safe Mode, or one at a
time from C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder. Thus, I think the crisis is over for
now...not a hijack item after all.

Thanks for all the help,
Frog
 
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Gary S. Terhune

What I do is select all (Ctrl-A) and then delete. When I get an error that
something can't be deleted, it will be the top item, file or folder. I hold
down the Ctrl key and click the file or folder. That deselects it, then I
hit Delete again, etc. (Actually, I use Shift-Del so that they bypass the
RB.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks everybody for the help. Sorry for my delay in getting back to your
> responses...I was delayed a bit by out-of-town company.
>
> I did use MSCONFIG to disable all startup items, restarted, and then
> reactivated (one entry at a time), with a start restart of my system after
> each individual reactivation. The culprit was found to be:
>
> cctray "C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust Internet Security
> Suite\cctray\cctray.exe"
>
> Yes, indeed, it is a legitimate virus scan program on my system. I only
> have one explanation for why the ~DF*.TMP files suddenly started showing
> up in my C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder---I recently updated my virus scan
> software to the latest version. I have found out how to get rid of the
> continuing growth of these files in the TEMP folder, with the exception of
> the two in use files...delete them in DOS, Safe Mode, or one at a time
> from C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder. Thus, I think the crisis is over for
> now...not a hijack item after all.
>
> Thanks for all the help,
> Frog
 
F

Frog

Gary,

I very much appreciate the tips included in your message. I will try
these when I next attempt to empty my TEMP folder.

Frog

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> What I do is select all (Ctrl-A) and then delete. When I get an error that
> something can't be deleted, it will be the top item, file or folder. I hold
> down the Ctrl key and click the file or folder. That deselects it, then I
> hit Delete again, etc. (Actually, I use Shift-Del so that they bypass the
> RB.)
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

You're welcome, Frog.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
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> Gary,
>
> I very much appreciate the tips included in your message. I will try
> these when I next attempt to empty my TEMP folder.
>
> Frog
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> What I do is select all (Ctrl-A) and then delete. When I get an error
>> that something can't be deleted, it will be the top item, file or folder.
>> I hold down the Ctrl key and click the file or folder. That deselects it,
>> then I hit Delete again, etc. (Actually, I use Shift-Del so that they
>> bypass the RB.)
>>
 
R

Roger Fink

Frog wrote:
> Thanks everybody for the help. Sorry for my delay in getting back to
> your responses...I was delayed a bit by out-of-town company.
>
> I did use MSCONFIG to disable all startup items, restarted, and then
> reactivated (one entry at a time), with a start restart of my system
> after each individual reactivation. The culprit was found to be:
>
> cctray "C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust Internet Security
> Suite\cctray\cctray.exe"
>
> Yes, indeed, it is a legitimate virus scan program on my system. I
> only have one explanation for why the ~DF*.TMP files suddenly started
> showing up in my C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder---I recently updated my virus
> scan software to the latest version. I have found out how to get rid
> of the continuing growth of these files in the TEMP folder, with the
> exception of the two in use files...delete them in DOS, Safe Mode, or
> one at a time from C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder. Thus, I think the crisis
> is over for now...not a hijack item after all.
>
> Thanks for all the help,
> Frog


Stop the presses!
Here are the applications that have installed folders in my temp folder:

Avast
Google IE Toolbar
Picasa2
Scansoft
VBE (MS Office 97)
Word8.0 (MS Office 97)
Others

These folders are not detritus from the installation of these programs. As
someone who likes to keep an orderly machine I resent their presence (and
blame microsoft for not working things out a little better), but since they
either re-create themselves or cause trouble if I delete them, what am I
supposed to do?

I think you should leave (should have left?) them alone.
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Not sure which side of the street you're coming from, but the TEMP folder
isn't *just* for installation files. Many programs need a temporary file to
be open to perform their job. Sometimes it has the same name, sometimes
there is a new one generated and the old ones are then garbage. Note that
this isn't Microsoft or Windows, necessarily. Many applications from all
over do the same thing. The TEMP folder is the perfect place for these,
since it keeps all the "garbage" in one place, making it easy to locate and
delete them. Imagine if these files were located all over the system.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> Frog wrote:
>> Thanks everybody for the help. Sorry for my delay in getting back to
>> your responses...I was delayed a bit by out-of-town company.
>>
>> I did use MSCONFIG to disable all startup items, restarted, and then
>> reactivated (one entry at a time), with a start restart of my system
>> after each individual reactivation. The culprit was found to be:
>>
>> cctray "C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust Internet Security
>> Suite\cctray\cctray.exe"
>>
>> Yes, indeed, it is a legitimate virus scan program on my system. I
>> only have one explanation for why the ~DF*.TMP files suddenly started
>> showing up in my C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder---I recently updated my virus
>> scan software to the latest version. I have found out how to get rid
>> of the continuing growth of these files in the TEMP folder, with the
>> exception of the two in use files...delete them in DOS, Safe Mode, or
>> one at a time from C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder. Thus, I think the crisis
>> is over for now...not a hijack item after all.
>>
>> Thanks for all the help,
>> Frog

>
> Stop the presses!
> Here are the applications that have installed folders in my temp folder:
>
> Avast
> Google IE Toolbar
> Picasa2
> Scansoft
> VBE (MS Office 97)
> Word8.0 (MS Office 97)
> Others
>
> These folders are not detritus from the installation of these programs. As
> someone who likes to keep an orderly machine I resent their presence (and
> blame microsoft for not working things out a little better), but since
> they
> either re-create themselves or cause trouble if I delete them, what am I
> supposed to do?
>
> I think you should leave (should have left?) them alone.
>
>
>
>
 
M

MEB

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
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| Not sure which side of the street you're coming from, but the TEMP folder
| isn't *just* for installation files. Many programs need a temporary file
to
| be open to perform their job. Sometimes it has the same name, sometimes
| there is a new one generated and the old ones are then garbage. Note that
| this isn't Microsoft or Windows, necessarily. Many applications from all
| over do the same thing. The TEMP folder is the perfect place for these,
| since it keeps all the "garbage" in one place, making it easy to locate
and
| delete them. Imagine if these files were located all over the system.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com

And along those same lines, often those temp files/diectories can be
configured some where within the respective application OR its registry
settings, to place its necessary temp files/directories elsewhere. Generally
this would cause necessesity to do as Gary suggests unless you have designed
your DOS delete or other *cleanup prog* to address those areas as well.

|
| "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message
| news:ugBG2Om1HHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >
| >
| > Frog wrote:
| >> Thanks everybody for the help. Sorry for my delay in getting back to
| >> your responses...I was delayed a bit by out-of-town company.
| >>
| >> I did use MSCONFIG to disable all startup items, restarted, and then
| >> reactivated (one entry at a time), with a start restart of my system
| >> after each individual reactivation. The culprit was found to be:
| >>
| >> cctray "C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust Internet Security
| >> Suite\cctray\cctray.exe"
| >>
| >> Yes, indeed, it is a legitimate virus scan program on my system. I
| >> only have one explanation for why the ~DF*.TMP files suddenly started
| >> showing up in my C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder---I recently updated my virus
| >> scan software to the latest version. I have found out how to get rid
| >> of the continuing growth of these files in the TEMP folder, with the
| >> exception of the two in use files...delete them in DOS, Safe Mode, or
| >> one at a time from C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder. Thus, I think the crisis
| >> is over for now...not a hijack item after all.
| >>
| >> Thanks for all the help,
| >> Frog
| >
| > Stop the presses!
| > Here are the applications that have installed folders in my temp folder:
| >
| > Avast
| > Google IE Toolbar
| > Picasa2
| > Scansoft
| > VBE (MS Office 97)
| > Word8.0 (MS Office 97)
| > Others
| >
| > These folders are not detritus from the installation of these programs.
As
| > someone who likes to keep an orderly machine I resent their presence
(and
| > blame microsoft for not working things out a little better), but since
| > they
| > either re-create themselves or cause trouble if I delete them, what am I
| > supposed to do?
| >
| > I think you should leave (should have left?) them alone.
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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Roger Fink

Actually I misread Frog's post. If he wants to delete temp files and he
determines there are no adverse consequences by doing so (which may not be
that easy), then why not. A long time ago I got into some trouble by
deleting, I believe, the Word8.0 folder I mentioned earlier, and ever since
then I've been giving temp application files/folders that aren't left over
from installation a wide berth.

As far as the way it's organized in the OS, my complaint is that the temp
folder is doing more than one job. A better way to do it from an end user
point of view IMO would be to have a temp_user folder so that fastidious
types like myself (and, I gather, Frog) can do our cleanups and close down
with a sense of accomplishment, even if it's delusional. Meanwhile Google
Toolbar, Avast, Picasa, Office 97 and the other applications could have one
dedicated folder, say, temp_apps, where their folders could reside, and I'd
stay away from them.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Not sure which side of the street you're coming from, but the TEMP
> folder isn't *just* for installation files. Many programs need a
> temporary file to be open to perform their job. Sometimes it has the
> same name, sometimes there is a new one generated and the old ones
> are then garbage. Note that this isn't Microsoft or Windows,
> necessarily. Many applications from all over do the same thing. The
> TEMP folder is the perfect place for these, since it keeps all the
> "garbage" in one place, making it easy to locate and delete them.
> Imagine if these files were located all over the system.
>
>
> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message
> news:ugBG2Om1HHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> Frog wrote:
>>> Thanks everybody for the help. Sorry for my delay in getting back
>>> to your responses...I was delayed a bit by out-of-town company.
>>>
>>> I did use MSCONFIG to disable all startup items, restarted, and then
>>> reactivated (one entry at a time), with a start restart of my system
>>> after each individual reactivation. The culprit was found to be:
>>>
>>> cctray "C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust Internet Security
>>> Suite\cctray\cctray.exe"
>>>
>>> Yes, indeed, it is a legitimate virus scan program on my system. I
>>> only have one explanation for why the ~DF*.TMP files suddenly
>>> started showing up in my C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder---I recently
>>> updated my virus scan software to the latest version. I have found
>>> out how to get rid
>>> of the continuing growth of these files in the TEMP folder, with the
>>> exception of the two in use files...delete them in DOS, Safe Mode,
>>> or one at a time from C:\WINDOWS\TEMP folder. Thus, I think the
>>> crisis
>>> is over for now...not a hijack item after all.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the help,
>>> Frog

>>
>> Stop the presses!
>> Here are the applications that have installed folders in my temp
>> folder:
>>
>> Avast
>> Google IE Toolbar
>> Picasa2
>> Scansoft
>> VBE (MS Office 97)
>> Word8.0 (MS Office 97)
>> Others
>>
>> These folders are not detritus from the installation of these
>> programs. As someone who likes to keep an orderly machine I resent
>> their presence (and blame microsoft for not working things out a
>> little better), but since they
>> either re-create themselves or cause trouble if I delete them, what
>> am I supposed to do?
>>
>> I think you should leave (should have left?) them alone.
 
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