recycle bin: delete confirmation dialog

[John]

hi,

i want to set up my recycle bin to just delete a file, without storing it. i
just want to select any file, choose delete from the context menu and the
file just disappear for good. i know that selecting properties and checking
the box for 'remove files immediately', removes the files permanently, but i
do not want the system to ask me if i am sure or not, with the confirmation
dialog. on this properties applet, the checkbox for "display delete
confirmation dialog box" is already unchecked and greyed out, after ive also
checked the remove files immediately box. how do i make it so the system
doesnt ask me if i am sure? ive already told it here, on this options applet,
to not ask me, so why is it still asking me anyway?

on this properties page, i have the radio bullet selecting to use one
setting for all drives. below that, the box for 'display delete confirmation
box' is unchecked, then, i have the checkbox ticked for 'do not move files to
recycle bin. remove files immediately when deleted.' once that box is
checked, the area below for displaying the confirmation, greys out, and the
box for that remains unchecked. so, all that i have selected here, should
really not be displaying any confirmation. but it still does. why??

 

[Mart]

> i want to set up my recycle bin to just delete a file, without storing it.
> i
> just want to select any file, choose delete from the context menu and the
> file just disappear for good.

Press and hold the Shift key before/during deletion prevents it going to the
recycle bin.

Mart


"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:626C5E77-D528-4DB0-8217-BE69386726C2@microsoft.com...
> hi,
>
i know that selecting properties and checking
> the box for 'remove files immediately', removes the files permanently, but
> i
> do not want the system to ask me if i am sure or not, with the
> confirmation
> dialog. on this properties applet, the checkbox for "display delete
> confirmation dialog box" is already unchecked and greyed out, after ive
> also
> checked the remove files immediately box. how do i make it so the system
> doesnt ask me if i am sure? ive already told it here, on this options
> applet,
> to not ask me, so why is it still asking me anyway?
>
> on this properties page, i have the radio bullet selecting to use one
> setting for all drives. below that, the box for 'display delete
> confirmation
> box' is unchecked, then, i have the checkbox ticked for 'do not move files
> to
> recycle bin. remove files immediately when deleted.' once that box is
> checked, the area below for displaying the confirmation, greys out, and
> the
> box for that remains unchecked. so, all that i have selected here, should
> really not be displaying any confirmation. but it still does. why??

 

[John]

yes mart, i know about holding the shift key down..... that doesnt answer my
question, and neither does it change anything. holding the shift key down, is
for when you dont have the check box selected for deleting files immediately.
if you read my message, you would know that i already have that selected. so,
currently, when i choose to delete a file, it still asks me if i am sure. if
i say yes, the file is deleted completely from the system and not stored in
the recycle bin. my initial request in my first post was why, if i have
specified in preferences to not have a dialog, that there is still a dialog?

i want to be able to delete any file, permanently without being stored in
the recycle bin, and not have to bother with any dialog asking me if i am
sure, or whatever else. i just want to select the file and press the delete
key, with nothing else to come of it. i am not asking for keyboard shortcuts,
or anything else. i just want to delete a file with the press of the delete
key and that be the end of it. currently, i cannot do that, without answering
a yes or no question, yet the system shows that i should be able to just
delete it, without any dialog.

i hope you understand what i am saying.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

The one option gets grayed out when you choose the other because the latter
makes the former irrelevant and no longer an option. You can't have both. If
you want immediate, permanent delete, you are going to get the confirmation
dialogue, whether it's done using the RB properties or you use the Shift-Del
method. MS (and most sensible people) consider what you want to be way too
risky. Accidents DO happen. You will ALWAYS get a confirmation dialogue when
the delete will be permanent. Like when you empty the RB.

All of the above applies to the use of Windows Explorer. There may be other
file management software that let you do what you want.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C7E52C54-DE58-49F6-A0EE-0238828B592F@microsoft.com...
> yes mart, i know about holding the shift key down..... that doesnt answer
> my
> question, and neither does it change anything. holding the shift key down,
> is
> for when you dont have the check box selected for deleting files
> immediately.
> if you read my message, you would know that i already have that selected.
> so,
> currently, when i choose to delete a file, it still asks me if i am sure.
> if
> i say yes, the file is deleted completely from the system and not stored
> in
> the recycle bin. my initial request in my first post was why, if i have
> specified in preferences to not have a dialog, that there is still a
> dialog?
>
> i want to be able to delete any file, permanently without being stored in
> the recycle bin, and not have to bother with any dialog asking me if i am
> sure, or whatever else. i just want to select the file and press the
> delete
> key, with nothing else to come of it. i am not asking for keyboard
> shortcuts,
> or anything else. i just want to delete a file with the press of the
> delete
> key and that be the end of it. currently, i cannot do that, without
> answering
> a yes or no question, yet the system shows that i should be able to just
> delete it, without any dialog.
>
> i hope you understand what i am saying.

 

[John]

gary,

okay, then if if is considered by the general wise public to be risky to
delete without confirmation, why was the option finally enabled in windows
xp, where is it actually possible to just click and delete permanently
without confirmation? if its so risky, why is it not as important anymore as
written code in windows xp? just curious really. thanks

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

I guess enough power users complained and MS changed the policy. I was, of
course, referring to the policies of Microsoft when they developed Windows
98. I said nothing about the "general public". I used the phrase "most
sensible people", and that was my opinion, of course. One I stand by. No
confirmation is too risky as a general policy. I might like it for certain
operations, but not for general, day-to-day usage.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> gary,
>
> okay, then if if is considered by the general wise public to be risky to
> delete without confirmation, why was the option finally enabled in windows
> xp, where is it actually possible to just click and delete permanently
> without confirmation? if its so risky, why is it not as important anymore
> as
> written code in windows xp? just curious really. thanks