Error loading TcpMib.dll

dlsayremn · May 17, 2008

Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so did a
clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I could no
longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and tweaks.

Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading TcpMib.dll".
click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I am
getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.

Searched MSKb for message.

"Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard TCP/IP
printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
View products that this article applies to.
Article ID : 261302
Last Review : October 30, 2006
Revision : 5.1
This article was previously published under Q261302
SYMPTOMS
When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft
Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following error
message:
Error loading the TCP MIB library.
When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:
Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits, and no
port is added.
Back to the top

CAUSE
This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,
Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been copied to
the %SystemRoot% folder.
Back to the top

RESOLUTION
To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the %SystemRoot%
folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied file in
the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
Back to the top

STATUS
Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products
that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
Back to the top

MORE INFORMATION
The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system folder
for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32 folder.

Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and mgmtapi.dll
renamed them with.old sufix.
Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not touch these as
I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks and
could not find it.

thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

Gary S. Terhune · May 17, 2008

Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go directly
to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back to WU
and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you
install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go to
Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think you
installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do you
use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine, and my
guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something like
that is what screwed up WU for you.

All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP, not
Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a
Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And I'll
bet there's no way to uninstall it.

Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how you
can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME. No,
there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers costs.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
> Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so did
> a
> clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I could
> no
> longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
> Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and
> tweaks.
>
> Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading TcpMib.dll".
> click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I am
> getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.
>
> Searched MSKb for message.
>
> "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard TCP/IP
> printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
> View products that this article applies to.
> Article ID : 261302
> Last Review : October 30, 2006
> Revision : 5.1
> This article was previously published under Q261302
> SYMPTOMS
> When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft
> Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following error
> message:
> Error loading the TCP MIB library.
> When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:
> Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
> When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits, and
> no
> port is added.
> Back to the top
>
> CAUSE
> This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,
> Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been copied
> to
> the %SystemRoot% folder.
> Back to the top
>
> RESOLUTION
> To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the %SystemRoot%
> folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied file
> in
> the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
> Back to the top
>
> STATUS
> Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products
> that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
> Back to the top
>
> MORE INFORMATION
> The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system folder
> for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32
> folder.
>
> Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
> mgmtapi.dll
> renamed them with.old sufix.
> Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not touch these
> as
> I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
>
> After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
> Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
>
> Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
> If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks and
> could not find it.
>
> thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
>

MEB · May 17, 2008

Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version... need
at least IE5.1

As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and
unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing errors
depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go
directly
| to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back to
WU
| and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you
| install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go to
| Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think you
| installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do you
| use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine, and
my
| guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something like
| that is what screwed up WU for you.
|
| All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP, not
| Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a
| Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And I'll
| bet there's no way to uninstall it.
|
| Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how
you
| can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME. No,
| there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers
costs.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
| > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so
did
| > a
| > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I could
| > no
| > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
| > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and
| > tweaks.
| >
| > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
TcpMib.dll".
| > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I
am
| > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.
| >
| > Searched MSKb for message.
| >
| > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard TCP/IP
| > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
| > View products that this article applies to.
| > Article ID : 261302
| > Last Review : October 30, 2006
| > Revision : 5.1
| > This article was previously published under Q261302
| > SYMPTOMS
| > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft
| > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following
error
| > message:
| > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
| > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:
| > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
| > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits,
and
| > no
| > port is added.
| > Back to the top
| >
| > CAUSE
| > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,
| > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been
copied
| > to
| > the %SystemRoot% folder.
| > Back to the top
| >
| > RESOLUTION
| > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
%SystemRoot%
| > folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied
file
| > in
| > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
| > Back to the top
| >
| > STATUS
| > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products
| > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
| > Back to the top
| >
| > MORE INFORMATION
| > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system
folder
| > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32
| > folder.
| >
| > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
| > mgmtapi.dll
| > renamed them with.old sufix.
| > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not touch
these
| > as
| > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
| >
| > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
| > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
| >
| > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
| > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks and
| > could not find it.
| >
| > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
| >
|

Gary S. Terhune · May 17, 2008

OP had already been to WU at least once. It was on a subsequent attempt,
after installing other things, that s/he could no longer get in. At least,
that's what was said in a different thread in a different group. Or is MEB
right, DL Sayremn? Had you never been to Windows Update before on that new
system? Because if so, there's your problem right there. Need to install
IE6SP1 before you can get into WU these days.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version... need
> at least IE5.1
>
> As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and
> unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing
> errors
> depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go
> directly
> | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back
> to
> WU
> | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you
> | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go to
> | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think you
> | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do
> you
> | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine, and
> my
> | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something
> like
> | that is what screwed up WU for you.
> |
> | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP,
> not
> | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a
> | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And
> I'll
> | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
> |
> | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how
> you
> | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.
> No,
> | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers
> costs.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
> | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so
> did
> | > a
> | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I
> could
> | > no
> | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
> | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and
> | > tweaks.
> | >
> | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
> TcpMib.dll".
> | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I
> am
> | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.
> | >
> | > Searched MSKb for message.
> | >
> | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard
> TCP/IP
> | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
> | > View products that this article applies to.
> | > Article ID : 261302
> | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
> | > Revision : 5.1
> | > This article was previously published under Q261302
> | > SYMPTOMS
> | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft
> | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following
> error
> | > message:
> | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
> | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:
> | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
> | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits,
> and
> | > no
> | > port is added.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > CAUSE
> | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,
> | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been
> copied
> | > to
> | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > RESOLUTION
> | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
> %SystemRoot%
> | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied
> file
> | > in
> | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > STATUS
> | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft
> products
> | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > MORE INFORMATION
> | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system
> folder
> | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32
> | > folder.
> | >
> | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
> | > mgmtapi.dll
> | > renamed them with.old sufix.
> | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not touch
> these
> | > as
> | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
> | >
> | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
> | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
> | >
> | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
> | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks
> and
> | > could not find it.
> | >
> | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
> | >
> |
>
>

Gary S. Terhune · May 17, 2008

CORRECTION: I'm always forgetting this step, since I use the Security Update
CD. You need to get IE6SP1 and install it before you can get to Windows
Updates.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go
> directly to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go
> back to WU and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this
> BEFORE you install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have
> to go to Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I
> think you installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.
> What do you use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just
> fine, and my guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that
> something like that is what screwed up WU for you.
>
> All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP, not
> Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a
> Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And I'll
> bet there's no way to uninstall it.
>
> Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how
> you can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.
> No, there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers
> costs.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
>> Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so did
>> a
>> clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I could
>> no
>> longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
>> Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and
>> tweaks.
>>
>> Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading TcpMib.dll".
>> click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I am
>> getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.
>>
>> Searched MSKb for message.
>>
>> "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard TCP/IP
>> printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
>> View products that this article applies to.
>> Article ID : 261302
>> Last Review : October 30, 2006
>> Revision : 5.1
>> This article was previously published under Q261302
>> SYMPTOMS
>> When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft
>> Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following error
>> message:
>> Error loading the TCP MIB library.
>> When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:
>> Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
>> When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits, and
>> no
>> port is added.
>> Back to the top
>>
>> CAUSE
>> This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,
>> Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been copied
>> to
>> the %SystemRoot% folder.
>> Back to the top
>>
>> RESOLUTION
>> To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
>> %SystemRoot%
>> folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied
>> file in
>> the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
>> Back to the top
>>
>> STATUS
>> Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products
>> that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
>> Back to the top
>>
>> MORE INFORMATION
>> The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system folder
>> for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32
>> folder.
>>
>> Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
>> mgmtapi.dll
>> renamed them with.old sufix.
>> Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not touch these
>> as
>> I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
>>
>> After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
>> Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
>>
>> Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
>> If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks and
>> could not find it.
>>
>> thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
>>
>

Gary S. Terhune · May 17, 2008

That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back. Don't
recall the answer, though.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version... need
> at least IE5.1
>
> As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and
> unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing
> errors
> depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go
> directly
> | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back
> to
> WU
> | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you
> | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go to
> | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think you
> | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do
> you
> | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine, and
> my
> | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something
> like
> | that is what screwed up WU for you.
> |
> | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP,
> not
> | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a
> | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And
> I'll
> | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
> |
> | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how
> you
> | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.
> No,
> | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers
> costs.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
> | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so
> did
> | > a
> | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I
> could
> | > no
> | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
> | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and
> | > tweaks.
> | >
> | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
> TcpMib.dll".
> | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I
> am
> | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.
> | >
> | > Searched MSKb for message.
> | >
> | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard
> TCP/IP
> | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
> | > View products that this article applies to.
> | > Article ID : 261302
> | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
> | > Revision : 5.1
> | > This article was previously published under Q261302
> | > SYMPTOMS
> | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft
> | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following
> error
> | > message:
> | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
> | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:
> | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
> | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits,
> and
> | > no
> | > port is added.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > CAUSE
> | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,
> | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been
> copied
> | > to
> | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > RESOLUTION
> | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
> %SystemRoot%
> | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied
> file
> | > in
> | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > STATUS
> | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft
> products
> | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
> | > Back to the top
> | >
> | > MORE INFORMATION
> | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system
> folder
> | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32
> | > folder.
> | >
> | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
> | > mgmtapi.dll
> | > renamed them with.old sufix.
> | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not touch
> these
> | > as
> | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
> | >
> | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
> | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
> | >
> | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
> | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks
> and
> | > could not find it.
> | >
> | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
> | >
> |
>
>

MEB · May 17, 2008

Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found as
IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
November 1999

Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with fresh
installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back. Don't
| recall the answer, though.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version...
need
| > at least IE5.1
| >
| > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and
| > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing
| > errors
| > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go
| > directly
| > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back
| > to
| > WU
| > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you
| > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go
to
| > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think
you
| > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do
| > you
| > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine,
and
| > my
| > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something
| > like
| > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
| > |
| > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP,
| > not
| > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a
| > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And
| > I'll
| > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
| > |
| > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain
how
| > you
| > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.
| > No,
| > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers
| > costs.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
| > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems
so
| > did
| > | > a
| > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I
| > could
| > | > no
| > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
| > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and
| > | > tweaks.
| > | >
| > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
| > TcpMib.dll".
| > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but
I
| > am
| > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer
on.
| > | >
| > | > Searched MSKb for message.
| > | >
| > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard
| > TCP/IP
| > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
| > | > View products that this article applies to.
| > | > Article ID : 261302
| > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
| > | > Revision : 5.1
| > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
| > | > SYMPTOMS
| > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in
Microsoft
| > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following
| > error
| > | > message:
| > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
| > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error
message:
| > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
| > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard
quits,
| > and
| > | > no
| > | > port is added.
| > | > Back to the top
| > | >
| > | > CAUSE
| > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,
| > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been
| > copied
| > | > to
| > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
| > | > Back to the top
| > | >
| > | > RESOLUTION
| > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
| > %SystemRoot%
| > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
Microsoft-supplied
| > file
| > | > in
| > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
| > | > Back to the top
| > | >
| > | > STATUS
| > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft
| > products
| > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
| > | > Back to the top
| > | >
| > | > MORE INFORMATION
| > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system
| > folder
| > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32
| > | > folder.
| > | >
| > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
| > | > mgmtapi.dll
| > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
| > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not touch
| > these
| > | > as
| > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
| > | >
| > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
| > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
| > | >
| > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
| > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks
| > and
| > | > could not find it.
| > | >
| > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

dlsayremn · May 18, 2008

Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and
can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.

This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.

Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed
Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW. Updated
IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.

IE 6.0.2800.1106IS
Update Versions SP1 Q918439 Q916281 Q833989 Q891781 Q313829 Q816362
Q824220 Q830849 Q885258 Q893627 Q896156905495 Q938127 Q939653

Late went to bed.

Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed FlashPlayer8.
Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got
following:

Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be
logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about 1-1/2
pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept
happening.

Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info about
this.
Nothing.

Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support
Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.

As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you to
this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.

Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.

You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.

Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else except
Update seems to work right.

Thanks again, David L. Sayre

MEB · May 18, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll - new modification to AVAST and/or other

Unless its changed [which is possible] since 01-07-08, the date of this
present testing installation [I do this every four or five months
specifically to test windowsupdate and other] your issue was likely due to
either a failed update [check the log and hist created] or you failed to
install the system updates [or all the updates].
Though Microsoft pushes the IE6 installation FIRST, I have found it better
to install the system updates [some are offered prior to IE6 installation if
you get that far using a supported browser, e.g. IE5.1 or above] THEN
install IE6, shutdown, then finish the updates to both. The required
administrator issue was noted after installation of a few updates.
Examples:
896688
905915
917425
9212812

The message produced looked similar to this:
"ADMINISTRATORS ONLY - To install items from Windows Update, you must be
logged on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group."

It may be that your IE6 installer includes old outdated files or something
failed to install properly.
You can check these files:
C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update.log
C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4\iuhist.xml
C:\WINDOWS\IE Setup Log.Txt

One NEW issue that MIGHT be involved is with AVAST. You may need to bypass
the web scanning proxy for ANY access to windowsupdate or Live. IF you have
setup the proxy/web check proxy, IF SO try these:

Open Internet Explorer
Click "Tools" and then click "Internet Options".
Click "Advanced," and then check "Use HTTP 1.1 through Proxy Connections"
check box.
Click the OK button.
--
You may be able to help resolve this issue by adding the following Web sites
to the Trusted Sites list in Internet Options:

http://Windowsupdate.microsoft.com
http://V4.Windowsupdate.microsoft.com
https://v4.Windowsupdate.microsoft.com (Note: The https is correct)
http://Download.Windowsupdate.com

To add these web sites to the list, follow these steps:

1. Open Internet Explorer.
2. Click "Tools," and then click "Internet Options."
3. Click "Security."
4. Click the Trusted Sites icon.
5. Click "Sites."
6. Clear the check box "Require server verification (https

for all sites in
this zone."
7. Add all four sites listed above.
---
This also may help resolve the issue and may be needed: by adding the
Windows Update sites to the exceptions list in the Internet Options Proxy
Settings.
To access the Exceptions settings:

1. Open Internet Explorer
2. Click "Tools" and then click "Internet Options."
3. Click "Connections" and then click "LAN Settings."
4. Click "Advanced" and add windowsupdate.microsoft.com
v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com, and download.windowsupdate.com to the
exceptions list.If you run other proxy/firewall software, then add the sites
to the exception list for those applications as well.
----
Apparent server changes [code/scripting] have affected the usage for
Microsoft's sites [including SSL]. V4 is apparently specific to 98/ME, XP
and above have V6 and other. Hence you may also need to do these for
Live/Hotmail/MSN/other Microsoft servers or services.
CAUTION: this leaves any of these sites which you included in the
modifications, with direct and complete access. The only security will be
the protections you checked in Advanced and Trusted Zone [except for
on-access scanning in AVAST]. A default installation of [the present version
4.8] AVAST does NOT enable the web scanning proxy/service server in 9X. See
AVAST Help for information on how to enable it.
If using a rules based firewall, you will need to re-configure for the
addresses involved.

I haven't check autopatcher recently, but did before in other test
installations, hence my comments. I have also found, IF you intend to use
one of the un-official/cumulative updates, its best to start from a base
installation WITHOUT prior updates [unless they were required prior to use].

--
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--
_________

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:251A8F6A-C2A7-4A2D-8E00-81EF89F579D3@microsoft.com...
| Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and
| can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.
|
| This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.
|
| Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed
| Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW.
Updated
| IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.
|
| IE 6.0.2800.1106IS
| Update Versions SP1 Q918439 Q916281 Q833989 Q891781 Q313829
Q816362
| Q824220 Q830849 Q885258 Q893627 Q896156905495 Q938127 Q939653
|
| Late went to bed.
|
| Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed
FlashPlayer8.
| Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got
| following:
|
| Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be
| logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about
1-1/2
| pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept
| happening.
|
| Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info
about
| this.
| Nothing.
|
| Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support
| Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.
|
| As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you
to
| this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.
|
| Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.
|
| You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.
|
| Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else
except
| Update seems to work right.
|
| Thanks again, David L. Sayre
|
|

Gary S. Terhune · May 18, 2008

Thanks for the heads up. I was certain I'd been told that AutoPatcher can't
be uninstalled. Or rather that parts can't be, which to me is the same.

v4 of Windows Updates IS the version for Win9x systems. Win2000 and above
are at v6.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:251A8F6A-C2A7-4A2D-8E00-81EF89F579D3@microsoft.com...
> Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and
> can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.
>
> This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.
>
> Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed
> Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW.
> Updated
> IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.
>
> IE 6.0.2800.1106IS
> Update Versions SP1 Q918439 Q916281 Q833989 Q891781 Q313829
> Q816362
> Q824220 Q830849 Q885258 Q893627 Q896156905495 Q938127 Q939653
>
> Late went to bed.
>
> Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed
> FlashPlayer8.
> Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got
> following:
>
> Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be
> logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about
> 1-1/2
> pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept
> happening.
>
> Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info
> about
> this.
> Nothing.
>
> Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support
> Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.
>
> As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you
> to
> this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.
>
> Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.
>
> You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.
>
> Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else
> except
> Update seems to work right.
>
> Thanks again, David L. Sayre
>
>

Franc Zabkar · May 18, 2008

On Sun, 18 May 2008 07:03:23 -0700, dlsayremn
<dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and
composed:

>Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else except
>Update seems to work right.
>
>Thanks again, David L. Sayre

I'm not a programmer, so the following suggestions may be
inappropriate, but ...

You could try running msconfig.exe and looking for likely suspects in
the Startup tab.

Otherwise try msinfo32.exe and look for clues among the 32-bit modules
in the Software Environment.

You could also go to Start > Find > Files/Folders > Containing Text
"TcpMib.dll". That may help you find which application is attempting
to load this DLL.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Gary S. Terhune · May 18, 2008

OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so I'm
surprised I didn't screw up worse.

Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest some
more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any
problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run the
SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found as
> IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
> Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
> November 1999
>
> Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with fresh
> installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back. Don't
> | recall the answer, though.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version...
> need
> | > at least IE5.1
> | >
> | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and
> | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing
> | > errors
> | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go
> | > directly
> | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go
> back
> | > to
> | > WU
> | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE
> you
> | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to
> go
> to
> | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think
> you
> | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What
> do
> | > you
> | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine,
> and
> | > my
> | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that
> something
> | > like
> | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
> | > |
> | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows
> XP,
> | > not
> | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of
> a
> | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And
> | > I'll
> | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
> | > |
> | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain
> how
> | > you
> | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and
> ME.
> | > No,
> | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3
> covers
> | > costs.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
> | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems
> so
> | > did
> | > | > a
> | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I
> | > could
> | > | > no
> | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
> | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates
> and
> | > | > tweaks.
> | > | >
> | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
> | > TcpMib.dll".
> | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok,
> but
> I
> | > am
> | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer
> on.
> | > | >
> | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
> | > | >
> | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard
> | > TCP/IP
> | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
> | > | > View products that this article applies to.
> | > | > Article ID : 261302
> | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
> | > | > Revision : 5.1
> | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
> | > | > SYMPTOMS
> | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in
> Microsoft
> | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the
> following
> | > error
> | > | > message:
> | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
> | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error
> message:
> | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.
> | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard
> quits,
> | > and
> | > | > no
> | > | > port is added.
> | > | > Back to the top
> | > | >
> | > | > CAUSE
> | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the
> Wsnmp32.dll,
> | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been
> | > copied
> | > | > to
> | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
> | > | > Back to the top
> | > | >
> | > | > RESOLUTION
> | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
> | > %SystemRoot%
> | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
> Microsoft-supplied
> | > file
> | > | > in
> | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
> | > | > Back to the top
> | > | >
> | > | > STATUS
> | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft
> | > products
> | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
> | > | > Back to the top
> | > | >
> | > | > MORE INFORMATION
> | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system
> | > folder
> | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the
> System32
> | > | > folder.
> | > | >
> | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
> | > | > mgmtapi.dll
> | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
> | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not
> touch
> | > these
> | > | > as
> | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
> | > | >
> | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
> | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
> | > | >
> | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
> | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore
> disks
> | > and
> | > | > could not find it.
> | > | >
> | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

MEB · May 18, 2008

Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.
It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls the
system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

Second startup [order]:
238453USA8.EXE
245729us8.exe
256015usa8.exe
259728usa8.exe
273727usa8.exe
314147usa8.exe
329048usa8.exe
249973usa8.exe
274548usa8.exe
323172usa8.exe
329115usa8.exe
811630usa8.exe
823559usa8.exe
273991USA8.EXE
314941USA8.exe
323255USA8.exe
telnetup.exe
q240308.exe
q313829.exe
q330994.exe
q828750.exe
js56men.exe
KB819639.exe
dx9_98.exe
mdac_typ.exe

Then finishes, including the subversion change.

However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt to
install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I still
play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any updating,
as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either from
the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or
otherwise [then unable to update the program].

Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update
process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer version of
something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed first.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so I'm
| surprised I didn't screw up worse.
|
| Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest some
| more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any
| problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run the
| SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found
as
| > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
| > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
| > November 1999
| >
| > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with
fresh
| > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back.
Don't
| > | recall the answer, though.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser
version...
| > need
| > | > at least IE5.1
| > | >
| > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and
| > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing
| > | > errors
| > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go
| > | > directly
| > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go
| > back
| > | > to
| > | > WU
| > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE
| > you
| > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to
| > go
| > to
| > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I
think
| > you
| > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.
What
| > do
| > | > you
| > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just
fine,
| > and
| > | > my
| > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that
| > something
| > | > like
| > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
| > | > |
| > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows
| > XP,
| > | > not
| > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part
of
| > a
| > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS.
And
| > | > I'll
| > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
| > | > |
| > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll
explain
| > how
| > | > you
| > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and
| > ME.
| > | > No,
| > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3
| > covers
| > | > costs.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some
problems
| > so
| > | > did
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out
I
| > | > could
| > | > | > no
| > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
| > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates
| > and
| > | > | > tweaks.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
| > | > TcpMib.dll".
| > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok,
| > but
| > I
| > | > am
| > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the
computer
| > on.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a
standard
| > | > TCP/IP
| > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
| > | > | > View products that this article applies to.
| > | > | > Article ID : 261302
| > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
| > | > | > Revision : 5.1
| > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
| > | > | > SYMPTOMS
| > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in
| > Microsoft
| > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the
| > following
| > | > error
| > | > | > message:
| > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
| > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error
| > message:
| > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be
completed.
| > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard
| > quits,
| > | > and
| > | > | > no
| > | > | > port is added.
| > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | >
| > | > | > CAUSE
| > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the
| > Wsnmp32.dll,
| > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has
been
| > | > copied
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
| > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | >
| > | > | > RESOLUTION
| > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
| > | > %SystemRoot%
| > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
| > Microsoft-supplied
| > | > file
| > | > | > in
| > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
| > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | >
| > | > | > STATUS
| > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft
| > | > products
| > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
| > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | >
| > | > | > MORE INFORMATION
| > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root
system
| > | > folder
| > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the
| > System32
| > | > | > folder.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and
| > | > | > mgmtapi.dll
| > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
| > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not
| > touch
| > | > these
| > | > | > as
| > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
| > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
| > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore
| > disks
| > | > and
| > | > | > could not find it.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

Gary S. Terhune · May 19, 2008

Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I
understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases in
mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get along with
the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land, then
it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.
> It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls the
> system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.
>
> Second startup [order]:
> 238453USA8.EXE
> 245729us8.exe
> 256015usa8.exe
> 259728usa8.exe
> 273727usa8.exe
> 314147usa8.exe
> 329048usa8.exe
> 249973usa8.exe
> 274548usa8.exe
> 323172usa8.exe
> 329115usa8.exe
> 811630usa8.exe
> 823559usa8.exe
> 273991USA8.EXE
> 314941USA8.exe
> 323255USA8.exe
> telnetup.exe
> q240308.exe
> q313829.exe
> q330994.exe
> q828750.exe
> js56men.exe
> KB819639.exe
> dx9_98.exe
> mdac_typ.exe
>
> Then finishes, including the subversion change.
>
> However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt to
> install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I
> still
> play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any
> updating,
> as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either from
> the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or
> otherwise [then unable to update the program].
>
> Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update
> process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer version
> of
> something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed first.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so I'm
> | surprised I didn't screw up worse.
> |
> | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest some
> | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any
> | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run
> the
> | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found
> as
> | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
> | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
> | > November 1999
> | >
> | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with
> fresh
> | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back.
> Don't
> | > | recall the answer, though.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser
> version...
> | > need
> | > | > at least IE5.1
> | > | >
> | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and
> | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have
> differing
> | > | > errors
> | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows
> go
> | > | > directly
> | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then
> go
> | > back
> | > | > to
> | > | > WU
> | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this
> BEFORE
> | > you
> | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have
> to
> | > go
> | > to
> | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I
> think
> | > you
> | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.
> What
> | > do
> | > | > you
> | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just
> fine,
> | > and
> | > | > my
> | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that
> | > something
> | > | > like
> | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to
> Windows
> | > XP,
> | > | > not
> | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any
> part
> of
> | > a
> | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS.
> And
> | > | > I'll
> | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll
> explain
> | > how
> | > | > you
> | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE
> and
> | > ME.
> | > | > No,
> | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3
> | > covers
> | > | > costs.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | --
> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some
> problems
> | > so
> | > | > did
> | > | > | > a
> | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found
> out
> I
> | > | > could
> | > | > | > no
> | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
> | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has
> updates
> | > and
> | > | > | > tweaks.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
> | > | > TcpMib.dll".
> | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work
> ok,
> | > but
> | > I
> | > | > am
> | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the
> computer
> | > on.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a
> standard
> | > | > TCP/IP
> | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
> | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.
> | > | > | > Article ID : 261302
> | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
> | > | > | > Revision : 5.1
> | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
> | > | > | > SYMPTOMS
> | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in
> | > Microsoft
> | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the
> | > following
> | > | > error
> | > | > | > message:
> | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
> | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error
> | > message:
> | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be
> completed.
> | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard
> | > quits,
> | > | > and
> | > | > | > no
> | > | > | > port is added.
> | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > CAUSE
> | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the
> | > Wsnmp32.dll,
> | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has
> been
> | > | > copied
> | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
> | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > RESOLUTION
> | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the
> | > | > %SystemRoot%
> | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
> | > Microsoft-supplied
> | > | > file
> | > | > | > in
> | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
> | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > STATUS
> | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the
> Microsoft
> | > | > products
> | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
> | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION
> | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root
> system
> | > | > folder
> | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the
> | > System32
> | > | > | > folder.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll,
> and
> | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll
> | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
> | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid not
> | > touch
> | > | > these
> | > | > | > as
> | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.
> | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
> | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore
> | > disks
> | > | > and
> | > | > | > could not find it.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
> | > | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

Franc Zabkar · May 19, 2008

On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:31:08 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>MEB just pointed out the obvious to me in another thread. Your problem is
>Auto-Patcher, or rather, one of its components. The program is supposedly
>very easy to deal with, choosing which patches or tweaks to install. Perhaps
>the people who built and support it can more quickly tell you what went
>wrong.
>Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 SE (English)
>http://www.msfn.org/board/Auto-Patcher-For-Windows-98se-English-t80800.html

Auto-Patcher Module Contents
December 2007 Final
http://soporific.dsleague.com/downloads/modules.htm

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

MEB · May 19, 2008

Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were
designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL
versions were needed and checked for during the install or were
written/modified/added specifically during the install.

You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such as
transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written before IE
6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So
installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed when
they were created], allows their installation or their updates which after
installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further problems.
The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and what
needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully backwards
compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.

IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated version is
NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,, it is
much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending upon
whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the exact
issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or RegMon,
or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required DLL
{whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily re-install
[degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You can find
indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.

This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If you
think about it, it makes sense.

The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I
| understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases in
| mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get along
with
| the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land, then
| it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.
| > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls the
| > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.
| >
| > Second startup [order]:
| > 238453USA8.EXE
| > 245729us8.exe
| > 256015usa8.exe
| > 259728usa8.exe
| > 273727usa8.exe
| > 314147usa8.exe
| > 329048usa8.exe
| > 249973usa8.exe
| > 274548usa8.exe
| > 323172usa8.exe
| > 329115usa8.exe
| > 811630usa8.exe
| > 823559usa8.exe
| > 273991USA8.EXE
| > 314941USA8.exe
| > 323255USA8.exe
| > telnetup.exe
| > q240308.exe
| > q313829.exe
| > q330994.exe
| > q828750.exe
| > js56men.exe
| > KB819639.exe
| > dx9_98.exe
| > mdac_typ.exe
| >
| > Then finishes, including the subversion change.
| >
| > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt
to
| > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I
| > still
| > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any
| > updating,
| > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either
from
| > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or
| > otherwise [then unable to update the program].
| >
| > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update
| > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer version
| > of
| > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed
first.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so
I'm
| > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.
| > |
| > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest
some
| > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any
| > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run
| > the
| > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003.
Found
| > as
| > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
| > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
| > | > November 1999
| > | >
| > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with
| > fresh
| > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back.
| > Don't
| > | > | recall the answer, though.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser
| > version...
| > | > need
| > | > | > at least IE5.1
| > | > | >
| > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods
and
| > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have
| > differing
| > | > | > errors
| > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing
Windows
| > go
| > | > | > directly
| > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then
| > go
| > | > back
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > WU
| > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this
| > BEFORE
| > | > you
| > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never
have
| > to
| > | > go
| > | > to
| > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I
| > think
| > | > you
| > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.
| > What
| > | > do
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just
| > fine,
| > | > and
| > | > | > my
| > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that
| > | > something
| > | > | > like
| > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to
| > Windows
| > | > XP,
| > | > | > not
| > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any
| > part
| > of
| > | > a
| > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a
POS.
| > And
| > | > | > I'll
| > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll
| > explain
| > | > how
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE
| > and
| > | > ME.
| > | > | > No,
| > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3
| > | > covers
| > | > | > costs.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > message
| > | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some
| > problems
| > | > so
| > | > | > did
| > | > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found
| > out
| > I
| > | > | > could
| > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
| > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has
| > updates
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > tweaks.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading
| > | > | > TcpMib.dll".
| > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work
| > ok,
| > | > but
| > | > I
| > | > | > am
| > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the
| > computer
| > | > on.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a
| > standard
| > | > | > TCP/IP
| > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
| > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.
| > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302
| > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
| > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1
| > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
| > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS
| > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in
| > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the
| > | > following
| > | > | > error
| > | > | > | > message:
| > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
| > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional
error
| > | > message:
| > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be
| > completed.
| > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port
Wizard
| > | > quits,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > port is added.
| > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > CAUSE
| > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the
| > | > Wsnmp32.dll,
| > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file
has
| > been
| > | > | > copied
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
| > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
| > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in
the
| > | > | > %SystemRoot%
| > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
| > | > Microsoft-supplied
| > | > | > file
| > | > | > | > in
| > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
| > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > STATUS
| > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the
| > Microsoft
| > | > | > products
| > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
| > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION
| > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root
| > system
| > | > | > folder
| > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the
| > | > System32
| > | > | > | > folder.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll,
| > and
| > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll
| > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
| > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid
not
| > | > touch
| > | > | > these
| > | > | > | > as
| > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"
message.
| > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
| > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system
restore
| > | > disks
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > could not find it.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

Gary S. Terhune · May 19, 2008

OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers that
did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems (vaguely
recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps, the
extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a massive
catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE or
before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.

What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and decide
to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that don't
involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more difficult to
deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the trade-off of
installing entire versions of IE a good deal?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were
> designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL
> versions were needed and checked for during the install or were
> written/modified/added specifically during the install.
>
> You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such as
> transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written before
> IE
> 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So
> installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed
> when
> they were created], allows their installation or their updates which
> after
> installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further
> problems.
> The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and what
> needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully
> backwards
> compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.
>
> IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated version is
> NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,, it is
> much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending upon
> whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the exact
> issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or RegMon,
> or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required DLL
> {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily re-install
> [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You can
> find
> indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.
>
> This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If you
> think about it, it makes sense.
>
> The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I
> | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases in
> | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get along
> with
> | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land,
> then
> | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.
> | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls
> the
> | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.
> | >
> | > Second startup [order]:
> | > 238453USA8.EXE
> | > 245729us8.exe
> | > 256015usa8.exe
> | > 259728usa8.exe
> | > 273727usa8.exe
> | > 314147usa8.exe
> | > 329048usa8.exe
> | > 249973usa8.exe
> | > 274548usa8.exe
> | > 323172usa8.exe
> | > 329115usa8.exe
> | > 811630usa8.exe
> | > 823559usa8.exe
> | > 273991USA8.EXE
> | > 314941USA8.exe
> | > 323255USA8.exe
> | > telnetup.exe
> | > q240308.exe
> | > q313829.exe
> | > q330994.exe
> | > q828750.exe
> | > js56men.exe
> | > KB819639.exe
> | > dx9_98.exe
> | > mdac_typ.exe
> | >
> | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.
> | >
> | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt
> to
> | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I
> | > still
> | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any
> | > updating,
> | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either
> from
> | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or
> | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].
> | >
> | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update
> | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer
> version
> | > of
> | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed
> first.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so
> I'm
> | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.
> | > |
> | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest
> some
> | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any
> | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I
> run
> | > the
> | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003.
> Found
> | > as
> | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
> | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
> | > | > November 1999
> | > | >
> | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate
> with
> | > fresh
> | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while
> back.
> | > Don't
> | > | > | recall the answer, though.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | --
> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser
> | > version...
> | > | > need
> | > | > | > at least IE5.1
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods
> and
> | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have
> | > differing
> | > | > | > errors
> | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing
> Windows
> | > go
> | > | > | > directly
> | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart,
> then
> | > go
> | > | > back
> | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > WU
> | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this
> | > BEFORE
> | > | > you
> | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never
> have
> | > to
> | > | > go
> | > | > to
> | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and
> I
> | > think
> | > | > you
> | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to
> WU.
> | > What
> | > | > do
> | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works
> just
> | > fine,
> | > | > and
> | > | > | > my
> | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that
> | > | > something
> | > | > | > like
> | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to
> | > Windows
> | > | > XP,
> | > | > | > not
> | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any
> | > part
> | > of
> | > | > a
> | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a
> POS.
> | > And
> | > | > | > I'll
> | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll
> | > explain
> | > | > how
> | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98,
> 98SE
> | > and
> | > | > ME.
> | > | > | > No,
> | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD.
> $3
> | > | > covers
> | > | > | > costs.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | --
> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> | > message
> | > | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some
> | > problems
> | > | > so
> | > | > | > did
> | > | > | > | > a
> | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when
> found
> | > out
> | > I
> | > | > | > could
> | > | > | > | > no
> | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
> | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has
> | > updates
> | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > tweaks.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error
> loading
> | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".
> | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to
> work
> | > ok,
> | > | > but
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > am
> | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the
> | > computer
> | > | > on.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a
> | > standard
> | > | > | > TCP/IP
> | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
> | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.
> | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302
> | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
> | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1
> | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
> | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS
> | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard
> in
> | > | > Microsoft
> | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the
> | > | > following
> | > | > | > error
> | > | > | > | > message:
> | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
> | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional
> error
> | > | > message:
> | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be
> | > completed.
> | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port
> Wizard
> | > | > quits,
> | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > no
> | > | > | > | > port is added.
> | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > CAUSE
> | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the
> | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,
> | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file
> has
> | > been
> | > | > | > copied
> | > | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
> | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
> | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in
> the
> | > | > | > %SystemRoot%
> | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
> | > | > Microsoft-supplied
> | > | > | > file
> | > | > | > | > in
> | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
> | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > STATUS
> | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the
> | > Microsoft
> | > | > | > products
> | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
> | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION
> | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the
> root
> | > system
> | > | > | > folder
> | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks
> the
> | > | > System32
> | > | > | > | > folder.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),
> wsmp32.dll,
> | > and
> | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll
> | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
> | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.ddid
> not
> | > | > touch
> | > | > | > these
> | > | > | > | > as
> | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"
> message.
> | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
> | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system
> restore
> | > | > disks
> | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > could not find it.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

Gary S. Terhune · May 19, 2008

MEB just pointed out the obvious to me in another thread. Your problem is
Auto-Patcher, or rather, one of its components. The program is supposedly
very easy to deal with, choosing which patches or tweaks to install. Perhaps
the people who built and support it can more quickly tell you what went
wrong.
Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 SE (English)
http://www.msfn.org/board/Auto-Patcher-For-Windows-98se-English-t80800.html

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:251A8F6A-C2A7-4A2D-8E00-81EF89F579D3@microsoft.com...
> Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and
> can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.
>
> This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.
>
> Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed
> Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW.
> Updated
> IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.
>
> IE 6.0.2800.1106IS
> Update Versions SP1 Q918439 Q916281 Q833989 Q891781 Q313829
> Q816362
> Q824220 Q830849 Q885258 Q893627 Q896156905495 Q938127 Q939653
>
> Late went to bed.
>
> Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed
> FlashPlayer8.
> Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got
> following:
>
> Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be
> logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about
> 1-1/2
> pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept
> happening.
>
> Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info
> about
> this.
> Nothing.
>
> Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support
> Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.
>
> As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you
> to
> this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.
>
> Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.
>
> You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.
>
> Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else
> except
> Update seems to work right.
>
> Thanks again, David L. Sayre
>
>

MEB · May 19, 2008

Well as examples:

Take the old Word97 from Office or Home Essentials [or some other
installation]. You can attempt to run the base install in an updated system,
but to install all the updates {SR1, SR2, some of the addins, and the final
WORD8 to 9} the updaters balk if IE6 is installed. ALWIO
Another is the old WinFax Pro 7, it will not install [easily anyway] nor
will its updates, if the system gets much beyond the base SE {FE updated may
cause issues} install.

So, yeah, these are majorly outdated programs, but if the client [or me]
doesn't want to update, whacha gonna do...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23R92pmduIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers that
| did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems
(vaguely
| recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps, the
| extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a massive
| catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE or
| before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.
|
| What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and
decide
| to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that
don't
| involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more difficult
to
| deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the trade-off
of
| installing entire versions of IE a good deal?
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were
| > designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL
| > versions were needed and checked for during the install or were
| > written/modified/added specifically during the install.
| >
| > You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such as
| > transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written
before
| > IE
| > 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So
| > installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed
| > when
| > they were created], allows their installation or their updates which
| > after
| > installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further
| > problems.
| > The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and
what
| > needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully
| > backwards
| > compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.
| >
| > IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated version
is
| > NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,, it
is
| > much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending
upon
| > whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the
exact
| > issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or
RegMon,
| > or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required
DLL
| > {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily
re-install
| > [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You can
| > find
| > indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.
| >
| > This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If
you
| > think about it, it makes sense.
| >
| > The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I
| > | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases
in
| > | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get
along
| > with
| > | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land,
| > then
| > | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.
| > | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls
| > the
| > | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.
| > | >
| > | > Second startup [order]:
| > | > 238453USA8.EXE
| > | > 245729us8.exe
| > | > 256015usa8.exe
| > | > 259728usa8.exe
| > | > 273727usa8.exe
| > | > 314147usa8.exe
| > | > 329048usa8.exe
| > | > 249973usa8.exe
| > | > 274548usa8.exe
| > | > 323172usa8.exe
| > | > 329115usa8.exe
| > | > 811630usa8.exe
| > | > 823559usa8.exe
| > | > 273991USA8.EXE
| > | > 314941USA8.exe
| > | > 323255USA8.exe
| > | > telnetup.exe
| > | > q240308.exe
| > | > q313829.exe
| > | > q330994.exe
| > | > q828750.exe
| > | > js56men.exe
| > | > KB819639.exe
| > | > dx9_98.exe
| > | > mdac_typ.exe
| > | >
| > | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.
| > | >
| > | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines]
attempt
| > to
| > | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes
I
| > | > still
| > | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any
| > | > updating,
| > | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either
| > from
| > | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or
| > | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].
| > | >
| > | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then
update
| > | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer
| > version
| > | > of
| > | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed
| > first.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions
so
| > I'm
| > | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.
| > | > |
| > | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you
suggest
| > some
| > | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into
any
| > | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I
| > run
| > | > the
| > | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003.
| > Found
| > | > as
| > | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
| > | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
| > | > | > November 1999
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate
| > with
| > | > fresh
| > | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while
| > back.
| > | > Don't
| > | > | > | recall the answer, though.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser
| > | > version...
| > | > | > need
| > | > | > | > at least IE5.1
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP
files/mods
| > and
| > | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have
| > | > differing
| > | > | > | > errors
| > | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > _________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing
| > Windows
| > | > go
| > | > | > | > directly
| > | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart,
| > then
| > | > go
| > | > | > back
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > WU
| > | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this
| > | > BEFORE
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never
| > have
| > | > to
| > | > | > go
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail
and
| > I
| > | > think
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to
| > WU.
| > | > What
| > | > | > do
| > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works
| > just
| > | > fine,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > my
| > | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is
that
| > | > | > something
| > | > | > | > like
| > | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to
| > | > Windows
| > | > | > XP,
| > | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been
any
| > | > part
| > | > of
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is
a
| > POS.
| > | > And
| > | > | > | > I'll
| > | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and
I'll
| > | > explain
| > | > | > how
| > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98,
| > 98SE
| > | > and
| > | > | > ME.
| > | > | > | > No,
| > | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on
CD.
| > $3
| > | > | > covers
| > | > | > | > costs.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > | > message
| > | > | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE.
Some
| > | > problems
| > | > | > so
| > | > | > | > did
| > | > | > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when
| > found
| > | > out
| > | > I
| > | > | > | > could
| > | > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
| > | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has
| > | > updates
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > tweaks.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error
| > loading
| > | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".
| > | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to
| > work
| > | > ok,
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > am
| > | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn
the
| > | > computer
| > | > | > on.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a
| > | > standard
| > | > | > | > TCP/IP
| > | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
| > | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.
| > | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302
| > | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
| > | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1
| > | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
| > | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS
| > | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard
| > in
| > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive
the
| > | > | > following
| > | > | > | > error
| > | > | > | > | > message:
| > | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
| > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional
| > error
| > | > | > message:
| > | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be
| > | > completed.
| > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port
| > Wizard
| > | > | > quits,
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > | > port is added.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > CAUSE
| > | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the
| > | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,
| > | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll
file
| > has
| > | > been
| > | > | > | > copied
| > | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
| > | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files
in
| > the
| > | > | > | > %SystemRoot%
| > | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
| > | > | > Microsoft-supplied
| > | > | > | > file
| > | > | > | > | > in
| > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > STATUS
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the
| > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > products
| > | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION
| > | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the
| > root
| > | > system
| > | > | > | > folder
| > | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks
| > the
| > | > | > System32
| > | > | > | > | > folder.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),
| > wsmp32.dll,
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll
| > | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
| > | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and
HPTcpMON.ddid
| > not
| > | > | > touch
| > | > | > | > these
| > | > | > | > | > as
| > | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"
| > message.
| > | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
| > | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system
| > restore
| > | > | > disks
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > could not find it.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

Gary S. Terhune · May 19, 2008

That was a non-response. I didn't ask for and don't need examples, and I
acknowledged the possibility of your scenario making sense, in limited
cases, and presuming one is in possession of an encyclopedic knowledge of
the problematic apps you cite.

I really am interested in your responses to my second paragraph. It is, for
me, the core of the issue. Whatever does one do when an install of Word97
update/patch whatever fails on a fully updated 98 system? Were no solutions
to this presumably common problem developed? Presuming one did NOT know
about this and installed IE6 first during a fresh installation, then didn't
get around to installing Word97 and its updates until a week later. Would
you have to flatten the system in order to successfully install the app and
all its updates. Given all this, what you're suggesting is that all Win98
Gold installations pass through an IE5.1 installation (and then maybe an IE
5.5 installation and/or intermediate versions???) Are there similar
procedures suggested for Win98SE? If I were an average user, where would I
find the information I need to know -- whether or not any of my apps present
the problem, just which steps I need to take in each case? As you've stated,
they're all pretty old apps. Not supported, etc. Would not simple experience
be the only way for the user to know if the problem is present or not, and
if it requires a flattening to prove and fix it, well perhaps some notes
will be appended to the installation media.

I simply can't see going through the intermediate step(s) of extra IE
installations on GP.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uQOwUSfuIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well as examples:
>
> Take the old Word97 from Office or Home Essentials [or some other
> installation]. You can attempt to run the base install in an updated
> system,
> but to install all the updates {SR1, SR2, some of the addins, and the
> final
> WORD8 to 9} the updaters balk if IE6 is installed. ALWIO
> Another is the old WinFax Pro 7, it will not install [easily anyway] nor
> will its updates, if the system gets much beyond the base SE {FE updated
> may
> cause issues} install.
>
> So, yeah, these are majorly outdated programs, but if the client [or me]
> doesn't want to update, whacha gonna do...
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23R92pmduIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers
> that
> | did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems
> (vaguely
> | recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps,
> the
> | extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a massive
> | catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE
> or
> | before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.
> |
> | What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and
> decide
> | to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that
> don't
> | involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more
> difficult
> to
> | deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the
> trade-off
> of
> | installing entire versions of IE a good deal?
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were
> | > designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL
> | > versions were needed and checked for during the install or were
> | > written/modified/added specifically during the install.
> | >
> | > You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such
> as
> | > transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written
> before
> | > IE
> | > 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So
> | > installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed
> | > when
> | > they were created], allows their installation or their updates which
> | > after
> | > installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further
> | > problems.
> | > The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and
> what
> | > needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully
> | > backwards
> | > compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.
> | >
> | > IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated
> version
> is
> | > NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,,
> it
> is
> | > much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending
> upon
> | > whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the
> exact
> | > issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or
> RegMon,
> | > or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required
> DLL
> | > {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily
> re-install
> | > [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You
> can
> | > find
> | > indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.
> | >
> | > This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If
> you
> | > think about it, it makes sense.
> | >
> | > The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I
> | > | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases
> in
> | > | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get
> along
> | > with
> | > | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x
> land,
> | > then
> | > | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.
> | > | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also
> controls
> | > the
> | > | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.
> | > | >
> | > | > Second startup [order]:
> | > | > 238453USA8.EXE
> | > | > 245729us8.exe
> | > | > 256015usa8.exe
> | > | > 259728usa8.exe
> | > | > 273727usa8.exe
> | > | > 314147usa8.exe
> | > | > 329048usa8.exe
> | > | > 249973usa8.exe
> | > | > 274548usa8.exe
> | > | > 323172usa8.exe
> | > | > 329115usa8.exe
> | > | > 811630usa8.exe
> | > | > 823559usa8.exe
> | > | > 273991USA8.EXE
> | > | > 314941USA8.exe
> | > | > 323255USA8.exe
> | > | > telnetup.exe
> | > | > q240308.exe
> | > | > q313829.exe
> | > | > q330994.exe
> | > | > q828750.exe
> | > | > js56men.exe
> | > | > KB819639.exe
> | > | > dx9_98.exe
> | > | > mdac_typ.exe
> | > | >
> | > | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.
> | > | >
> | > | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines]
> attempt
> | > to
> | > | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games
> [yes
> I
> | > | > still
> | > | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any
> | > | > updating,
> | > | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes
> [either
> | > from
> | > | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL,
> or
> | > | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].
> | > | >
> | > | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then
> update
> | > | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer
> | > version
> | > | > of
> | > | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is
> installed
> | > first.
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions
> so
> | > I'm
> | > | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you
> suggest
> | > some
> | > | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into
> any
> | > | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time,
> I
> | > run
> | > | > the
> | > | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes
> IE6SP1.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | --
> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of
> 5.02314.1003.
> | > Found
> | > | > as
> | > | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.
> | > | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools
> | > | > | > November 1999
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing
> windowsupdate
> | > with
> | > | > fresh
> | > | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while
> | > back.
> | > | > Don't
> | > | > | > | recall the answer, though.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | --
> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser
> | > | > version...
> | > | > | > need
> | > | > | > | > at least IE5.1
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP
> files/mods
> | > and
> | > | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have
> | > | > differing
> | > | > | > | > errors
> | > | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters,
> etc...
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing
> | > Windows
> | > | > go
> | > | > | > | > directly
> | > | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then
> restart,
> | > then
> | > | > go
> | > | > | > back
> | > | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > | > WU
> | > | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do
> this
> | > | > BEFORE
> | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll
> never
> | > have
> | > | > to
> | > | > | > go
> | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail
> and
> | > I
> | > | > think
> | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get
> to
> | > WU.
> | > | > What
> | > | > | > do
> | > | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still
> works
> | > just
> | > | > fine,
> | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > my
> | > | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is
> that
> | > | > | > something
> | > | > | > | > like
> | > | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies
> to
> | > | > Windows
> | > | > | > XP,
> | > | > | > | > not
> | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been
> any
> | > | > part
> | > | > of
> | > | > | > a
> | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater
> is
> a
> | > POS.
> | > | > And
> | > | > | > | > I'll
> | > | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and
> I'll
> | > | > explain
> | > | > | > how
> | > | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for
> Win98,
> | > 98SE
> | > | > and
> | > | > | > ME.
> | > | > | > | > No,
> | > | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on
> CD.
> | > $3
> | > | > | > covers
> | > | > | > | > costs.
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | --
> | > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | > | > | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in
> | > | > message
> | > | > | > | > |
> news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE.
> Some
> | > | > problems
> | > | > | > so
> | > | > | > | > did
> | > | > | > | > | > a
> | > | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when
> | > found
> | > | > out
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > | > could
> | > | > | > | > | > no
> | > | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.
> | > | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It
> has
> | > | > updates
> | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > | > tweaks.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error
> | > loading
> | > | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".
> | > | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems
> to
> | > work
> | > | > ok,
> | > | > | > but
> | > | > | > I
> | > | > | > | > am
> | > | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn
> the
> | > | > computer
> | > | > | > on.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add
> a
> | > | > standard
> | > | > | > | > TCP/IP
> | > | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000
> | > | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.
> | > | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302
> | > | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006
> | > | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1
> | > | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302
> | > | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS
> | > | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port
> Wizard
> | > in
> | > | > | > Microsoft
> | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive
> the
> | > | > | > following
> | > | > | > | > error
> | > | > | > | > | > message:
> | > | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.
> | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following
> additional
> | > error
> | > | > | > message:
> | > | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not
> be
> | > | > completed.
> | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer
> Port
> | > Wizard
> | > | > | > quits,
> | > | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > | > no
> | > | > | > | > | > port is added.
> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > CAUSE
> | > | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of
> the
> | > | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,
> | > | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll
> file
> | > has
> | > | > been
> | > | > | > | > copied
> | > | > | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.
> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
> | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files
> in
> | > the
> | > | > | > | > %SystemRoot%
> | > | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the
> | > | > | > Microsoft-supplied
> | > | > | > | > file
> | > | > | > | > | > in
> | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.
> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > STATUS
> | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the
> | > | > Microsoft
> | > | > | > | > products
> | > | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.
> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION
> | > | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the
> | > root
> | > | > system
> | > | > | > | > folder
> | > | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it
> checks
> | > the
> | > | > | > System32
> | > | > | > | > | > folder.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),
> | > wsmp32.dll,
> | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll
> | > | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.
> | > | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and
> HPTcpMON.ddid
> | > not
> | > | > | > touch
> | > | > | > | > these
> | > | > | > | > | > as
> | > | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"
> | > message.
> | > | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?
> | > | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system
> | > restore
> | > | > | > disks
> | > | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > | > could not find it.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
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>

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