Malware Attacking Your Router?

B

~BD~

"Instead of installing malware that continues to run like a key logger or
trojan, malicious programs are increasingly attacking the network router
which is common with any internet connected home and/or office. An unwanted
program can quickly make a change to your router settings that will
immediately open all your computers to the world. The bad guys won't have to
install a key logger, they'll be able to record every byte that goes across
your network. It's happening now to thousands of routers which are still
using their default name and password."

So begins a recent item by Bill Pytlovany. Full detail here:-
http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/06/malware-attacking-your-router.html

Comments invited here!

Dave
 
L

Leythos

In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
says...
[snip]
> Comments invited here!


Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.


--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
B

~BD~

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
> says...
> [snip]
>> Comments invited here!

>
> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.
>
>
> --
> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
>


I'd be grateful if you would explain your comment, Leythos. Do you not agree
with the content of the item I posted?

Dave
 
L

Leythos

In article <ed#IHjw0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
> > In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
> > says...
> > [snip]
> >> Comments invited here!

> >
> > Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
> > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
> > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
> > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
> >

>
> I'd be grateful if you would explain your comment, Leythos. Do you not agree
> with the content of the item I posted?


First, your lack understanding about and use of Usenet, including your
broken Usenet client, is a good indicator that you're not highly
technical or of a base that understands the Net well enough to be
starting a blog to help people that you hope to see your message in
here.

You asked for comments, and being 100% honest and blunt, which many PC
liberal types can't handle, I stated that you should post to usenet for
a few years before you start spamming Usenet... with your blog.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
D

David H. Lipman

From: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan>


|
| First, your lack understanding about and use of Usenet, including your
| broken Usenet client, is a good indicator that you're not highly
| technical or of a base that understands the Net well enough to be
| starting a blog to help people that you hope to see your message in
| here.
|
| You asked for comments, and being 100% honest and blunt, which many PC
| liberal types can't handle, I stated that you should post to usenet for
| a few years before you start spamming Usenet... with your blog.
|

Leythos:

In all honesty, it isn't "his" Blog. It is by Bill P. author of WinPatrol.
WinPatrol is a trusted anti malware utility.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
 
R

Root Kit

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:17:35 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>WinPatrol is a trusted anti malware utility.


There is no such thing as a trusted anti malware utility.
 
M

MAP

~BD~ wrote:
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
>> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
>> ~BD~@nospam.invalid says...
>> [snip]
>>> Comments invited here!

>>
>> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.
>>
>>
>> --
>> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
>> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
>> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
>> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
>>

>
> I'd be grateful if you would explain your comment, Leythos. Do you
> not agree with the content of the item I posted?




Remember BD "No good deed will ever go unpunished".

This is one reason why I hardly ever post here anymore, the person I'm
trying to help never answers and I get cra_ from others, I was thinking of
posting that link a couple of days ago because it is worth knowing, now you
know why I didn't. But thank you.


--
Mike Pawlak
 
L

Leythos

In article <elkiYyz0IHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...
> From: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan>
>
>
> |
> | First, your lack understanding about and use of Usenet, including your
> | broken Usenet client, is a good indicator that you're not highly
> | technical or of a base that understands the Net well enough to be
> | starting a blog to help people that you hope to see your message in
> | here.
> |
> | You asked for comments, and being 100% honest and blunt, which many PC
> | liberal types can't handle, I stated that you should post to usenet for
> | a few years before you start spamming Usenet... with your blog.
> |
>
> Leythos:
>
> In all honesty, it isn't "his" Blog. It is by Bill P. author of WinPatrol.
> WinPatrol is a trusted anti malware utility.


It appeared to be the same as all other other spams and since I didn't
recognize the poster I made the comment accordingly.

I rarely see the need to advertise a blog in this group like was done,
but putting a reputable blog in a sig or posting links in response to
people needing help is always a good thing.

If it had not been posted in the same light as other spams I would not
have replied the way I did. Any of us that have been around for years
know how to properly post to usenet, including snipping sigs, even if we
had to snip manually.... normally a good indicator that the poster is
not familiar with Usenet which means they've not been here long.

So far I've not seen any reply from the person that indicates I was
wrong, just questioning my post without an explanation of their reason.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
L

Leythos

In article <O1$uu$20IHA.5300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
mikepawlak2REM@OVEhotmail.com says...
[snip]
>
>
> Remember BD "No good deed will ever go unpunished".
>
> This is one reason why I hardly ever post here anymore, the person I'm
> trying to help never answers and I get cra_ from others, I was thinking of
> posting that link a couple of days ago because it is worth knowing, now you
> know why I didn't. But thank you.


If your post didn't look like spam and the link was to a reputable site,
why would anyone be critical of it?


--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
W

What's in a Name?

In news:ah5p54ls5gpb3875fkobvqfe7557hqgubj@4ax.com,
Root Kit,whose name means 'bottom feeder', after much thought,came up with
this jewel:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:17:35 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
> <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
>> WinPatrol is a trusted anti malware utility.

>
> There is no such thing as a trusted anti malware utility.


ok-I'll bite...So how would you describe WinPatrol?
--
Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html
I block all spam/googlegroupers-you can too!
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html
Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email.
 
J

jen

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
> ~BD~@nospam.invalid
> says...[clueless snip restored]:


"Instead of installing malware that continues to run like a key logger
or
trojan, malicious programs are increasingly attacking the network router
which is common with any internet connected home and/or office. An
unwanted
program can quickly make a change to your router settings that will
immediately open all your computers to the world. The bad guys won't
have to
install a key logger, they'll be able to record every byte that goes
across
your network. It's happening now to thousands of routers which are still
using their default name and password."

So begins a recent item by Bill Pytlovany. Full detail here:-
http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/06/malware-attacking-your-router.html

Comments invited here!

Dave

> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.


LOL! If you are so Usenet savvy, how come you don't know this is
"Boater Dave", is *not* spam(look up the definition) and don't seem to
even know who the author of the Blog is? I've *very rarely* seen you
post *anything* helpful or relevant, preferring instead to post your
"rebuttals" (pun intended) to PCButts1's posts ad nauseum...
Get a clue!

HTH,
-jen
 
B

~BD~

"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:OCkOkF80IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
>> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
>> says...[clueless snip restored]:

>
> "Instead of installing malware that continues to run like a key logger or
> trojan, malicious programs are increasingly attacking the network router
> which is common with any internet connected home and/or office. An
> unwanted
> program can quickly make a change to your router settings that will
> immediately open all your computers to the world. The bad guys won't have
> to
> install a key logger, they'll be able to record every byte that goes
> across
> your network. It's happening now to thousands of routers which are still
> using their default name and password."
>
> So begins a recent item by Bill Pytlovany. Full detail here:-
> http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/06/malware-attacking-your-router.html
>
> Comments invited here!
>
> Dave
>
>> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.

>
> LOL! If you are so Usenet savvy, how come you don't know this is "Boater
> Dave", is *not* spam(look up the definition) and don't seem to even know
> who the author of the Blog is? I've *very rarely* seen you post
> *anything* helpful or relevant, preferring instead to post your
> "rebuttals" (pun intended) to PCButts1's posts ad nauseum...
> Get a clue!
>
> HTH,
> -jen


Thank you for responding in this maner 'jen'. Everything I've ever seen
*you* post has been helpful and relevant ....... and I hope, by now, you
know that BoaterDave (yes, me!) wants nothing more than the bad guys hung
out to dry. I'd be grateful if you would take a look at the response to my
post (identical) placed in 'microsoft.public.security.homeusers' - the reply
is from Kerry Brown (aka TechB) who *doesn't* seem to think this a serious
threat. Perhaps you could respond in each group thereafter.

TIA

Dave
 
B

~BD~

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:1214059915_86441@news.usenet.com...
> In article <elkiYyz0IHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...
>> From: "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan>
>>
>>
>> |
>> | First, your lack understanding about and use of Usenet, including your
>> | broken Usenet client, is a good indicator that you're not highly
>> | technical or of a base that understands the Net well enough to be
>> | starting a blog to help people that you hope to see your message in
>> | here.
>> |
>> | You asked for comments, and being 100% honest and blunt, which many PC
>> | liberal types can't handle, I stated that you should post to usenet for
>> | a few years before you start spamming Usenet... with your blog.
>> |
>>
>> Leythos:
>>
>> In all honesty, it isn't "his" Blog. It is by Bill P. author of
>> WinPatrol.
>> WinPatrol is a trusted anti malware utility.

>
> It appeared to be the same as all other other spams and since I didn't
> recognize the poster I made the comment accordingly.
>
> I rarely see the need to advertise a blog in this group like was done,
> but putting a reputable blog in a sig or posting links in response to
> people needing help is always a good thing.
>
> If it had not been posted in the same light as other spams I would not
> have replied the way I did. Any of us that have been around for years
> know how to properly post to usenet, including snipping sigs, even if we
> had to snip manually.... normally a good indicator that the poster is
> not familiar with Usenet which means they've not been here long.
>
> So far I've not seen any reply from the person that indicates I was
> wrong, just questioning my post without an explanation of their reason.
>
> --
> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)


I forgive you, Leythos! <wink>

Dave
 
B

~BD~

"MAP" <mikepawlak2REM@OVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O1$uu$20IHA.5300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
>>> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
>>> ~BD~@nospam.invalid says...
>>> [snip]
>>>> Comments invited here!
>>>
>>> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
>>> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
>>> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
>>> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
>>>

>>
>> I'd be grateful if you would explain your comment, Leythos. Do you
>> not agree with the content of the item I posted?

>
>
>
> Remember BD "No good deed will ever go unpunished".
>
> This is one reason why I hardly ever post here anymore, the person I'm
> trying to help never answers and I get cra_ from others, I was thinking of
> posting that link a couple of days ago because it is worth knowing, now
> you know why I didn't. But thank you.
>
>
> --
> Mike Pawlak


Hello Mike! :)

Thank you for responding. This place is a minefield for a 'newbie' but it
really doesn't have to be that way. Please stay here and help whenever you
are able! You have my assurance that *I* will respond to any answer you give
me!

Dave
 
S

Sohtyaelehtreklats

LOL so true.

--
Stalking is a Crime
Stalking charges are serious and
almost every state now has a strict stalking law.




"jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
news:OCkOkF80IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
>> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
>> says...[clueless snip restored]:

>
> "Instead of installing malware that continues to run like a key logger or
> trojan, malicious programs are increasingly attacking the network router
> which is common with any internet connected home and/or office. An
> unwanted
> program can quickly make a change to your router settings that will
> immediately open all your computers to the world. The bad guys won't have
> to
> install a key logger, they'll be able to record every byte that goes
> across
> your network. It's happening now to thousands of routers which are still
> using their default name and password."
>
> So begins a recent item by Bill Pytlovany. Full detail here:-
> http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/06/malware-attacking-your-router.html
>
> Comments invited here!
>
> Dave
>
>> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.

>
> LOL! If you are so Usenet savvy, how come you don't know this is "Boater
> Dave", is *not* spam(look up the definition) and don't seem to even know
> who the author of the Blog is? I've *very rarely* seen you post
> *anything* helpful or relevant, preferring instead to post your
> "rebuttals" (pun intended) to PCButts1's posts ad nauseum...
> Get a clue!
>
> HTH,
> -jen
>
 
L

Leythos

In article <OCkOkF80IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, jen@example.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
> > In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
> > ~BD~@nospam.invalid
> > says...[clueless snip restored]:

>
> "Instead of installing malware that continues to run like a key logger
> or
> trojan, malicious programs are increasingly attacking the network router
> which is common with any internet connected home and/or office. An
> unwanted
> program can quickly make a change to your router settings that will
> immediately open all your computers to the world. The bad guys won't
> have to
> install a key logger, they'll be able to record every byte that goes
> across
> your network. It's happening now to thousands of routers which are still
> using their default name and password."
>
> So begins a recent item by Bill Pytlovany. Full detail here:-
> http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/06/malware-attacking-your-router.html
>
> Comments invited here!
>
> Dave
>
> > Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.

>
> LOL! If you are so Usenet savvy, how come you don't know this is
> "Boater Dave", is *not* spam(look up the definition) and don't seem to
> even know who the author of the Blog is?


I don't know BD and I didn't visit the blog, there was no reason. It's
that simple and nothing more.

> I've *very rarely* seen you
> post *anything* helpful or relevant, preferring instead to post your
> "rebuttals" (pun intended) to PCButts1's posts ad nauseum...
> Get a clue!


Unlike you, I can live with being wrong and have been in the past. The
post appeared to be spam and was improperly formatted in a reply, like
your post is not properly quoting the text you quoted.

So, yes, it appears that BD is a good member, that the blog is
reputable, but, I had not seen either before and took it for face value.

Maybe you can get your Usenet interface fixed while you ponder the
simple misunderstanding because of a lack of explanation.

--
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
F

---Fitz---

I wondered when you would show up using a new nick, Chris.

"Sohtyaelehtreklats" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message
news:xic7k.5127$L_.4863@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> LOL so true.
>
> --
> Stalking is a Crime
> Stalking charges are serious and
> almost every state now has a strict stalking law.
>
>
>
>
> "jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
> news:OCkOkF80IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
>>> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
>>> says...[clueless snip restored]:

>>
>> "Instead of installing malware that continues to run like a key logger or
>> trojan, malicious programs are increasingly attacking the network router
>> which is common with any internet connected home and/or office. An
>> unwanted
>> program can quickly make a change to your router settings that will
>> immediately open all your computers to the world. The bad guys won't have
>> to
>> install a key logger, they'll be able to record every byte that goes
>> across
>> your network. It's happening now to thousands of routers which are still
>> using their default name and password."
>>
>> So begins a recent item by Bill Pytlovany. Full detail here:-
>> http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/06/malware-attacking-your-router.html
>>
>> Comments invited here!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.

>>
>> LOL! If you are so Usenet savvy, how come you don't know this is "Boater
>> Dave", is *not* spam(look up the definition) and don't seem to even know
>> who the author of the Blog is? I've *very rarely* seen you post
>> *anything* helpful or relevant, preferring instead to post your
>> "rebuttals" (pun intended) to PCButts1's posts ad nauseum...
>> Get a clue!
>>
>> HTH,
>> -jen
>>

>
 
K

Kerry Brown

"~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23FFMn280IHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "jen" <jen@example.com> wrote in message
> news:OCkOkF80IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
>>> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
>>> says...[clueless snip restored]:

>>
>> "Instead of installing malware that continues to run like a key logger or
>> trojan, malicious programs are increasingly attacking the network router
>> which is common with any internet connected home and/or office. An
>> unwanted
>> program can quickly make a change to your router settings that will
>> immediately open all your computers to the world. The bad guys won't have
>> to
>> install a key logger, they'll be able to record every byte that goes
>> across
>> your network. It's happening now to thousands of routers which are still
>> using their default name and password."
>>
>> So begins a recent item by Bill Pytlovany. Full detail here:-
>> http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/06/malware-attacking-your-router.html
>>
>> Comments invited here!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.

>>
>> LOL! If you are so Usenet savvy, how come you don't know this is "Boater
>> Dave", is *not* spam(look up the definition) and don't seem to even know
>> who the author of the Blog is? I've *very rarely* seen you post
>> *anything* helpful or relevant, preferring instead to post your
>> "rebuttals" (pun intended) to PCButts1's posts ad nauseum...
>> Get a clue!
>>
>> HTH,
>> -jen

>
> Thank you for responding in this maner 'jen'. Everything I've ever seen
> *you* post has been helpful and relevant ....... and I hope, by now, you
> know that BoaterDave (yes, me!) wants nothing more than the bad guys hung
> out to dry. I'd be grateful if you would take a look at the response to my
> post (identical) placed in 'microsoft.public.security.homeusers' - the
> reply is from Kerry Brown (aka TechB) who *doesn't* seem to think this a
> serious threat. Perhaps you could respond in each group thereafter.
>
> TIA
>
> Dave
>



If you wish to reply to me please do so in person. Read my post again. I do
take this threat seriously. What the threat can do has been exaggerated in
the blog you posted a link to. The seriousness of the threat is not in
question. I've been warning people about this for quite a while.

--
Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
 
P

Peter Foldes

See if this will help you understand Dave
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:ed%23IHjw0IHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:1213995318_86351@news.usenet.com...
>> In article <eTtSYAw0IHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, ~BD~@nospam.invalid
>> says...
>> [snip]
>>> Comments invited here!

>>
>> Try posting to usenet for a few years before spamming Usenet.
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>> --
>> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
>> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
>> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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>
> I'd be grateful if you would explain your comment, Leythos. Do you not agree
> with the content of the item I posted?
>
> Dave
>
>
 
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