A hack, anyone, to turn on dma ?

S

Shadow

My samsung sh-182f DVD writer has become horribly slow,
records at 1X max, even with 16X disks.
I cannot turn DMA on in the hardware manager.
Even my floppy drive has DMA ........
Must be a way. 6 hours hacking and nothing so far.
TIA
Apparently there is a registry/system entry that does not
allow DMA on a drive, but cannot find it. Neither on PC or on Google.
The drive had DMA a month ago, last time I checked.
 
G

glee

"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
news:3ms1645ci2f6ikv4q8pvctdb0k21apenhr@4ax.com...
> My samsung sh-182f DVD writer has become horribly slow,
> records at 1X max, even with 16X disks.
> I cannot turn DMA on in the hardware manager.
> Even my floppy drive has DMA ........
> Must be a way. 6 hours hacking and nothing so far.
> TIA
> Apparently there is a registry/system entry that does not
> allow DMA on a drive, but cannot find it. Neither on PC or on Google.
> The drive had DMA a month ago, last time I checked.


What processor/motherboard/chipset?

Have you checked the BIOS settings to see if they have changed?
Is UDMA enabled for the IDE channel the drive is on?

What happens when you try to enable DMA in Device Manager?
Are there any problems noted in Device Manager?

Drive Does Not Have a DMA Check Box:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=229085

DMA Check Box Does Not Remain Checked:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=159560

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
P

PCR

Shadow wrote:
| My samsung sh-182f DVD writer has become horribly slow,
| records at 1X max, even with 16X disks.
| I cannot turn DMA on in the hardware manager.
| Even my floppy drive has DMA ........
| Must be a way. 6 hours hacking and nothing so far.
| TIA
| Apparently there is a registry/system entry that does not
| allow DMA on a drive, but cannot find it. Neither on PC or on Google.
| The drive had DMA a month ago, last time I checked.

If those URLs glee posted don't fix it...

(1) "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Components, Storage"
(2) Bolt "Advanced Information", &
use the Edit menu to post it.
(3) Bolt "History", use the mouse to highlight DVD information,
& use Ctlr-C to copy & post it.
(4) Click, copy & post "Problem Devices" too, if any.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
S

Shadow

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:56:42 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>Shadow wrote:
>| My samsung sh-182f DVD writer has become horribly slow,
>| records at 1X max, even with 16X disks.
>| I cannot turn DMA on in the hardware manager.
>| Even my floppy drive has DMA ........
>| Must be a way. 6 hours hacking and nothing so far.
>| TIA
>| Apparently there is a registry/system entry that does not
>| allow DMA on a drive, but cannot find it. Neither on PC or on Google.
>| The drive had DMA a month ago, last time I checked.
>
>If those URLs glee posted don't fix it...
>
>(1) "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Components, Storage"
>(2) Bolt "Advanced Information", &
> use the Edit menu to post it.


Controlador padrão de disquete
fdc
Chave do Registro: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\ACPI\*PNP0700\0
Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 6: x0000
DMA: Máscara 2: x0000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x03F0 fim=x03F5
Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x03F7
Fim=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 6: x0000
DMA: Máscara 2: x0000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x03F0 fim=x03F5
Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x03F7
Fim=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Recursos Filtrado: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 0: x0040
DMA: Máscara 0: x0004
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x0000
Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Configuração
lógica 1
IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x0000
Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Configuração
lógica 2
IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
Mín=x0370 Máx=x0375 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x0000
Fim=x0000 Mín=x0377 Máx=x0377 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Recursos Básico: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 0: x0040
DMA: Máscara 0: x0004
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x0000
Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Configuração
lógica 1
IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x0000
Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Configuração
lógica 2
IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
Mín=x0370 Máx=x0375 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Base=x0000
Fim=x0000 Mín=x0377 Máx=x0377 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
Driver: fdc\0000
Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
Driver: HSFLOP.pdr
Tamanho do
arquivo: 25741 (0x648D)
Data do
arquivo: 5/5/1999 10:22 PM
Nome da
empresa: Microsoft Corporation
Versão do
arquivo: 4.10.2222

VIA RAID Controller - 3149
SCSIAdapter
Chave do Registro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3149&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_80\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00
Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 10: xFFFF
Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE400
Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE000
Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD800
Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD400
Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD000
Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Configuração lógica 0
Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE400
Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE000
Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD800
Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD400
Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD000
Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Filtrado: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 10: xFFFF
Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE400
Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE000
Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD800
Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD400
Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD000
Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Básico: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 0: xFFFF
Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE400
Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xE000
Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD800
Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD400
Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Base=xD000
Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Revisão do HW: 128
Driver: SCSIAdapter\0017
Data do driver: 12-20-2007
Driver: viamvsd.vxd
Tamanho do
arquivo: 13334 (0x3416)
Data do
arquivo: 11/23/2005 1:12 AM
Nome da
empresa: VIA Technologies, Inc.
Versão do
arquivo: 2.0.950.500
Driver: viamraid.mpd
Tamanho do
arquivo: 103533 (0x1946D)
Data do
arquivo: 12/20/2007 10:03 AM
Nome da
empresa: VIA Technologies inc,.ltd
Versão do
arquivo: 2.0.950.573

VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
hdc
Chave do Registro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_01
Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
Máscara 15:
x8000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x03F6
Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0170
Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0376
Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=xFC00
Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
Máscara 15:
x8000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x03F6
Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0170
Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0376
Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=xFC00
Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Filtrado: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
Máscara 15:
x8000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x03F6
Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0170
Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0376
Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=xFC00
Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Básico: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
Máscara 15:
x8000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x03F6
Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0170
Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0376
Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=xFC00
Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Revisão do HW: 006
Driver: hdc\0000
Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
Driver: vatapi.vxd
Tamanho do
arquivo: 10937 (0x2AB9)
Data do
arquivo: 10/18/2001 12:00 PM
Nome da
empresa: VIA Technologies, Inc.
Versão do
arquivo: 2.0.950.120

Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
hdc
Chave do Registro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MF\CHILD0000\PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_01
Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x03F6
Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=xFC00
Fim=xFC07 Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
Recursos Básico: Nenhum
Driver: hdc\0001
Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
Driver: ESDI_506.pdr
Tamanho do
arquivo: 24406 (0x5F56)
Data do
arquivo: 5/5/1999 10:22 PM
Nome da
empresa: Microsoft Corporation
Versão do
arquivo: 4.10.2222

Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
hdc
Chave do Registro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MF\CHILD0001\PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_01
Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
IRQ: Máscara 15: x8000
Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0170 fim=x0177
Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=x0376
Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
Base=xFC08
Fim=xFC0F Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
Recursos Básico: Nenhum
Driver: hdc\0002
Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
Driver: ESDI_506.pdr
Tamanho do
arquivo: 24406 (0x5F56)
Data do
arquivo: 5/5/1999 10:22 PM
Nome da
empresa: Microsoft Corporation
Versão do
arquivo: 4.10.2222

GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47
DiskDrive
Chave do Registro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\ESDI\GENERIC_IDE__DISK_TYPE47_\MF&CHILD0000&PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100
Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
Recursos Básico: Nenhum
Letra da unidade atual: CDEFGH
Driver: DiskDrive\0000
Data do driver: 5- 5-1999

TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
CDROM
Chave do Registro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\SCSI\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS\MF&CHILD0001&PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100
Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
Recursos Básico: Nenhum
Driver: CDROM\0000
Data do driver: 5- 5-1999

GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK
DiskDrive
Chave do Registro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\FLOP\GENERIC_NEC__FLOPPY_DISK_\ACPI&*PNP0700&000
Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
Recursos Básico: Nenhum
Letra da unidade atual: A
Driver: DiskDrive\0001
Data do driver: 5- 5-1999


>(3) Bolt "History", use the mouse to highlight DVD information,
> & use Ctlr-C to copy & post it.

TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
Configuração original Tue Jun 24 22:06:37 2008 para Date
Recursos Alloc: Nenhum


>(4) Click, copy & post "Problem Devices" too, if any.

None
 
S

Shadow

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:36 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
wrote:

>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>news:3ms1645ci2f6ikv4q8pvctdb0k21apenhr@4ax.com...
>> My samsung sh-182f DVD writer has become horribly slow,
>> records at 1X max, even with 16X disks.
>> I cannot turn DMA on in the hardware manager.
>> Even my floppy drive has DMA ........
>> Must be a way. 6 hours hacking and nothing so far.
>> TIA
>> Apparently there is a registry/system entry that does not
>> allow DMA on a drive, but cannot find it. Neither on PC or on Google.
>> The drive had DMA a month ago, last time I checked.

>
>What processor/motherboard/chipset?

Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
Model K8V-MX
Version 3.01G

Chipset Vendor VIA Technologies Inc
Chipset Model K8M400 CPU to PCI Bridge
South Bridge VT8237 PCI to ISA Bridge
SMBus VIA Technologies Inc VT8237 PCI to ISA Bridge @0400h

CPU AMD Sempron 2600+
Cpu Socket Socket 754
Max CPU Speed 1600 MHz
>
>Have you checked the BIOS settings to see if they have changed?

Yes. Don't think so.

>Is UDMA enabled for the IDE channel the drive is on?

In the BIOS ? Yes.
>
>What happens when you try to enable DMA in Device Manager?

The box does not stay ticked, even without a reboot.
>Are there any problems noted in Device Manager?

Nope
>Drive Does Not Have a DMA Check Box:
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=229085

Mine does
>
>DMA Check Box Does Not Remain Checked:
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=159560

Debug ? OK, here we go:

o 176 a0 a0 (a-zero) is for a master drive, use b0 for a slave.
o 172 22 22 is for DMA mode 2, use 21 for DMA mode 1.
o 171 03 03 (zero-3) is to program the hard disk timing.
o 177 ef ef is the set feature command for the hard disk.
i 171 Reads in the error status a value is returned.

Got 00 for anything from 21 to 25 in line 2
So the drive accepts up to dma 5
dma 6 returned a 04 error

So my bus-mastering driver has gone bad. But I tried the via
434, 456, and 517 before posting this plea for help.

Any suggestions ?
 
G

glee

"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
news:bn8364tfhgtcgmehkcio80sp65sj4ri6g9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:36 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>>news:3ms1645ci2f6ikv4q8pvctdb0k21apenhr@4ax.com...
>>> My samsung sh-182f DVD writer has become horribly slow,
>>> records at 1X max, even with 16X disks.
>>> I cannot turn DMA on in the hardware manager.
>>> Even my floppy drive has DMA ........
>>> Must be a way. 6 hours hacking and nothing so far.
>>> TIA
>>> Apparently there is a registry/system entry that does not
>>> allow DMA on a drive, but cannot find it. Neither on PC or on Google.
>>> The drive had DMA a month ago, last time I checked.

>>
>>What processor/motherboard/chipset?

> Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
> Model K8V-MX
> Version 3.01G
>
> Chipset Vendor VIA Technologies Inc
> Chipset Model K8M400 CPU to PCI Bridge
> South Bridge VT8237 PCI to ISA Bridge
> SMBus VIA Technologies Inc VT8237 PCI to ISA Bridge @0400h
>
> CPU AMD Sempron 2600+
> Cpu Socket Socket 754
> Max CPU Speed 1600 MHz
>>
>>Have you checked the BIOS settings to see if they have changed?

> Yes. Don't think so.
>
>>Is UDMA enabled for the IDE channel the drive is on?

> In the BIOS ? Yes.
>>
>>What happens when you try to enable DMA in Device Manager?

> The box does not stay ticked, even without a reboot.
>>Are there any problems noted in Device Manager?

> Nope
>>Drive Does Not Have a DMA Check Box:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=229085

> Mine does
>>
>>DMA Check Box Does Not Remain Checked:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=159560

> Debug ? OK, here we go:
>
> o 176 a0 a0 (a-zero) is for a master drive, use b0 for a slave.
> o 172 22 22 is for DMA mode 2, use 21 for DMA mode 1.
> o 171 03 03 (zero-3) is to program the hard disk timing.
> o 177 ef ef is the set feature command for the hard disk.
> i 171 Reads in the error status a value is returned.
>
> Got 00 for anything from 21 to 25 in line 2
> So the drive accepts up to dma 5
> dma 6 returned a 04 error
>
> So my bus-mastering driver has gone bad. But I tried the via
> 434, 456, and 517 before posting this plea for help.
>
> Any suggestions ?


Suggestions? Sure.

Open Device Manager, select the top entry (Computer icon), and click the Properties
button.
This will display the IRQ settings.
Select Direct Memory Access(DMA) to view devices using DMA Channels.
What DMA Channels are in use?

There are 8 DMA channels but one is used by the DMA controller so 7 are available
for devices.
Tell us what device is using each channel.


Uninstall the Via chipset drivers (4-in-1 driver).
Reboot.
Then restart in Safe Mode.
Open Device Manager, remove all items in the CDROM category, remove all items in the
Hard disk drives category, and remove the VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller in the
Hard disk controller category.
Restart in normal mode, let Windows redetect both the primary and secondary IDE
controllers, then reboot and install the Via 4-in-1 drivers.

If that does not help, replace the IDE ribbon cable attached to the DVD drive with a
new one no more than 18" long.
Repeat the above steps if needed.


In looking at the info you posted in reply to PCR, I notice you have viamvsd.vxd and
VIAmraid.mpd installed. Those are Via RAID controller drivers....are you using the
RAID controllers? If not, why are you enabling them and installing drivers?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
S

Shadow

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:37:58 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
wrote:

>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>news:bn8364tfhgtcgmehkcio80sp65sj4ri6g9@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:36 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
>> wrote:

>
>Open Device Manager, select the top entry (Computer icon), and click the Properties
>button.
>There are 8 DMA channels but one is used by the DMA controller so 7 are available
>for devices.
>Tell us what device is using each channel.

0 (livre)
1 (livre)
2 Controlador padrão de disquete
3 (livre)
4 Controlador de acesso direto à memória
5 (livre)
6 (livre)
7 (livre)
>
>
>Uninstall the Via chipset drivers (4-in-1 driver).

ok
>Reboot.
>Then restart in Safe Mode

ok
>Open Device Manager, remove all items in the CDROM category, remove all items in the
>Hard disk drives category, and remove the VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller in the
>Hard disk controller category.

done
>Restart in normal mode, let Windows redetect both the primary and secondary IDE
>controllers, then reboot and install the Via 4-in-1 drivers.

done
nothing changed
>
>If that does not help, replace the IDE ribbon cable attached to the DVD drive with a
>new one no more than 18" long.

done
>Repeat the above steps if needed.

done ...still the same
>
>
>In looking at the info you posted in reply to PCR, I notice you have viamvsd.vxd and
>VIAmraid.mpd installed. Those are Via RAID controller drivers....are you using the
>RAID controllers? If not, why are you enabling them and installing drivers?

No idea. Maybe some driver came with the disk. I see nothing
about raid in the bios.

When I enable dma in device manager, it writes this :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\hdc\0002]
"DevLoader"="*IOS"
"DriverDesc"="Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)"
"InfPath"="VIAVSD.INF"
"InfSection"="VIAIDE"
"PortDriver"="ESDI_506.pdr"
"ProviderName"="Microsoft"
"DriverDate"="2001\\10\\18"
"IDEDMADRIVE0"=hex:01
"IDEDMADRIVE1"=hex:01
"AutoInsertNotificationDrive0"=hex:01


Does that look ok to you ?
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:37:58 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Open Device Manager, select the top entry (Computer icon), and click the Properties
>button.
>This will display the IRQ settings.
>Select Direct Memory Access(DMA) to view devices using DMA Channels.
>What DMA Channels are in use?
>
>There are 8 DMA channels but one is used by the DMA controller so 7 are available
>for devices.
>Tell us what device is using each channel.


My understanding is that IDE devices connect to a "bus mastering"
controller which accesses system memory directly rather than by using
the motherboard's DMA controller chip. Hence Device Manager will not
show any DMA channels for the hard disc controller.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access

=====================================================================
A DMA transfer essentially copies a block of memory from one device to
another. While the CPU initiates the transfer, it does not execute it.
For so-called "third party" DMA, as is normally used with the ISA bus,
the transfer is performed by a DMA controller which is typically part
of the motherboard chipset. More advanced bus designs such as PCI
typically use bus mastering DMA, where the device takes control of the
bus and performs the transfer itself.
=====================================================================

- Franc Zabkar
--
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G

glee

"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
news:kia56414frgspmk6rfqrga8b32k74an5kc@4ax.com...
>
> When I enable dma in device manager, it writes this :
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\hdc\0002]
> "DevLoader"="*IOS"
> "DriverDesc"="Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)"
> "InfPath"="VIAVSD.INF"
> "InfSection"="VIAIDE"
> "PortDriver"="ESDI_506.pdr"
> "ProviderName"="Microsoft"
> "DriverDate"="2001\\10\\18"
> "IDEDMADRIVE0"=hex:01
> "IDEDMADRIVE1"=hex:01
> "AutoInsertNotificationDrive0"=hex:01
>
>
> Does that look ok to you ?


Yes. It shows DMA enabled for both Secondary IDE Channels. I am starting to think
the drive itself is going bad.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:37:58 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Open Device Manager, select the top entry (Computer icon), and click the Properties
>button.
>This will display the IRQ settings.
>Select Direct Memory Access(DMA) to view devices using DMA Channels.
>What DMA Channels are in use?
>
>There are 8 DMA channels but one is used by the DMA controller so 7 are available
>for devices.
>Tell us what device is using each channel.


According to IBM's Technical Reference manual for the PC AT, the
original AT had two DMA controllers (Intel 8237A-5) which could each
handle four DMA channels. As was the case with its two interrupt
controllers, the output of the first DMA controller was cascaded into
the second DMA controller.

The manual states that "DMA channels 0,1,2, and 3 are used for 8-bit
data transfers, and channels 5,6, and 7 process 16-bit transfers.
Channel 4 is used to cascade channels 0 through 3 to the
microprocessor".

So what you are seeing as "04 Direct memory access controller" in the
DMA resource list under Computer Properties in DM is in fact the
cascaded output of DMA controller #1.

- Franc Zabkar
--
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S

Shadow

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:47:23 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
wrote:

>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>news:kia56414frgspmk6rfqrga8b32k74an5kc@4ax.com...
>
>Yes. It shows DMA enabled for both Secondary IDE Channels. I am starting to think
>the drive itself is going bad.

Well, I just verified that. I had a 3.904 Gb backup to do, did
it with Nero, in windows 98SE, and it took 93 minutes.
I then fired up a livecd PClinux and burnt the same project in
10 minutes and 4 seconds. using K3b.
Both times using LG 16x media and programs set to "max speed".
Both programs reported they were burning at 16x

So it has to be a driver problem.

.................................

When you told me to delete drives cds and busmasters and etc
in device manager, in safe mode, when I rebooted back to normal mode
the computer asked me to reinstall a lot of stuff. I always gave
/windows/inf as the source, and it seems happy with that. But so many
VIA names in the drivers I wonder if I really got rid of them.
If I refused to let it install stuff (by pressing cancel) it
just froze.
 
P

PCR

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=TSSTcorp+CD/DVDW+SH-S182F++dma&start=10&sa=N
Google has about 132 for "TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F dma". I haven't
read them all. Here is one...

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/dvdguide005.html
Enabling Direct Memory Access or "DMA" for faster DVD copying

That article is speaking of WinXP. It says...

"For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device
after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If
more that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and
use only PIO mode on that device.
In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only
option for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and
reinstall the device."

Can it be similar in Win98? I see on glee's instructions you went the
Device manager route to reinstall drivers. I'd think normally that to be
enough. But how tough was it to install that DVD in the first place? Can
you completely uninstall it so that it no longer appears in Device
Manager at all-- then, reinstall it?

| TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
| CDROM
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\SCSI\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS\MF&CHILD0001&PCI&
VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100
| Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
| Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
| Recursos Básico: Nenhum
| Driver: CDROM\0000
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999

That XP article also speaks of a Registry key. In your Win98, that key
may be the one shown above. Check to be sure it hasn't changed now due
to your Device Manager activity. Post that full Registry key. Here is
mine for my CD-R/W, which does have DMA checked. "DMACurrentlyUsed"
sounds to be most relevant...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\SCSI\IDE-CD__R/RW_4X4X24_____C\MF&CHILD0001&PCI
&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_07&FUNC_0100]
"Capabilities"=hex:14,00,00,00
"AutoInsertNotification"=hex:01
"SCSITargetID"="0"
"SCSILUN"="0"
"RevisionLevel"="C12a"
"ProductId"="R/RW 4x4x24 "
"Manufacturer"="IDE-CD "
"DeviceType"=hex:05
"Removable"=hex:01
"CurrentDriveLetterAssignment"="W"
"IDEMaster"=hex:01
"DMACurrentlyUsed"=hex:01
"HardwareID"="IDE-CD__R/RW_4X4X24_____C,GenCD,SCSI\\IDE-CD__R/RW_4X4X24_
____C"
"Class"="CDROM"
"ClassGUID"="{4d36e965-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}"
"Driver"="CDROM\\0001"
"Mfg"="(Standard CD-ROM device)"
"DeviceDesc"="IDE-CD R/RW 4x4x24 "
"ConfigFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00
"UserDriveLetterAssignment"="WW"
"Disconnect"=hex:01
"SyncDataXfer"=hex:00

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Shadow wrote:
| On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:56:42 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
|
|>Shadow wrote:
|>| My samsung sh-182f DVD writer has become horribly slow,
|>| records at 1X max, even with 16X disks.
|>| I cannot turn DMA on in the hardware manager.
|>| Even my floppy drive has DMA ........
|>| Must be a way. 6 hours hacking and nothing so far.
|>| TIA
|>| Apparently there is a registry/system entry that does not
|>| allow DMA on a drive, but cannot find it. Neither on PC or on
|>| Google. The drive had DMA a month ago, last time I checked.
|>
|>If those URLs glee posted don't fix it...
|>
|>(1) "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Components, Storage"
|>(2) Bolt "Advanced Information", &
|> use the Edit menu to post it.
|
| Controlador padrão de disquete
| fdc
| Chave do Registro: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\ACPI\*PNP0700\0
| Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 6: x0000
| DMA: Máscara 2: x0000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x03F0 fim=x03F5
| Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x03F7
| Fim=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 6: x0000
| DMA: Máscara 2: x0000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x03F0 fim=x03F5
| Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x03F7
| Fim=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Filtrado: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 0: x0040
| DMA: Máscara 0: x0004
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
| Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x0000
| Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Configuração
| lógica 1
| IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
| DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
| Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x0000
| Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Configuração
| lógica 2
| IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
| DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
| Mín=x0370 Máx=x0375 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x0000
| Fim=x0000 Mín=x0377 Máx=x0377 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Básico: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 0: x0040
| DMA: Máscara 0: x0004
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
| Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x0000
| Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Configuração
| lógica 1
| IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
| DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
| Mín=x03F0 Máx=x03F5 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x0000
| Fim=x0000 Mín=x03F7 Máx=x03F7 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Configuração
| lógica 2
| IRQ: Máscara 0: x1CF8
| DMA: Máscara 0: x000E
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0000 fim=x0000
| Mín=x0370 Máx=x0375 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Base=x0000
| Fim=x0000 Mín=x0377 Máx=x0377 Alias=x00, decodificação=x00
| Driver: fdc\0000
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
| Driver: HSFLOP.pdr
| Tamanho do
| arquivo: 25741 (0x648D)
| Data do
| arquivo: 5/5/1999 10:22 PM
| Nome da
| empresa: Microsoft Corporation
| Versão do
| arquivo: 4.10.2222
|
| VIA RAID Controller - 3149
| SCSIAdapter
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3149&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_80\BUS
_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00
| Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 10: xFFFF
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
| Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE400
| Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE000
| Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD800
| Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD400
| Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD000
| Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Configuração lógica 0
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
| Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE400
| Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE000
| Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD800
| Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD400
| Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD000
| Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Filtrado: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 10: xFFFF
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
| Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE400
| Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE000
| Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD800
| Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD400
| Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD000
| Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Básico: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 0: xFFFF
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=xE800 fim=xE807
| Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE400
| Fim=xE403 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xE000
| Fim=xE007 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD800
| Fim=xD803 Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD400
| Fim=xD40F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Base=xD000
| Fim=xD0FF Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Revisão do HW: 128
| Driver: SCSIAdapter\0017
| Data do driver: 12-20-2007
| Driver: viamvsd.vxd
| Tamanho do
| arquivo: 13334 (0x3416)
| Data do
| arquivo: 11/23/2005 1:12 AM
| Nome da
| empresa: VIA Technologies, Inc.
| Versão do
| arquivo: 2.0.950.500
| Driver: viamraid.mpd
| Tamanho do
| arquivo: 103533 (0x1946D)
| Data do
| arquivo: 12/20/2007 10:03 AM
| Nome da
| empresa: VIA Technologies inc,.ltd
| Versão do
| arquivo: 2.0.950.573
|
| VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
| hdc
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06\BUS
_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_01
| Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
| Máscara 15:
| x8000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
| Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x03F6
| Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0170
| Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0376
| Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=xFC00
| Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
| Máscara 15:
| x8000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
| Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x03F6
| Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0170
| Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0376
| Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=xFC00
| Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Filtrado: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
| Máscara 15:
| x8000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
| Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x03F6
| Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0170
| Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0376
| Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=xFC00
| Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Básico: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
| Máscara 15:
| x8000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
| Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x03F6
| Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0170
| Fim=x0177 Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0376
| Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=xFC00
| Fim=xFC0F Mín=x0000 Máx=xFFFF Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Revisão do HW: 006
| Driver: hdc\0000
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
| Driver: vatapi.vxd
| Tamanho do
| arquivo: 10937 (0x2AB9)
| Data do
| arquivo: 10/18/2001 12:00 PM
| Nome da
| empresa: VIA Technologies, Inc.
| Versão do
| arquivo: 2.0.950.120
|
| Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
| hdc
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MF\CHILD0000\PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED10
43&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_01
| Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 14: x4000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x01F0 fim=x01F7
| Mín=x01F0 Máx=x01F7 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x03F6
| Fim=x03F6 Mín=x03F6 Máx=x03F6 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=xFC00
| Fim=xFC07 Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
| Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
| Recursos Básico: Nenhum
| Driver: hdc\0001
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
| Driver: ESDI_506.pdr
| Tamanho do
| arquivo: 24406 (0x5F56)
| Data do
| arquivo: 5/5/1999 10:22 PM
| Nome da
| empresa: Microsoft Corporation
| Versão do
| arquivo: 4.10.2222
|
| Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
| hdc
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MF\CHILD0001\PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED10
43&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_01
| Recursos Alloc: Configuração lógica 0
| IRQ: Máscara 15: x8000
| Intervalo de E/S: Base=x0170 fim=x0177
| Mín=x0170 Máx=x0177 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=x0376
| Fim=x0376 Mín=x0376 Máx=x0376 Alias=x04, decodificação=x03
| Base=xFC08
| Fim=xFC0F Alias=xFF, decodificação=x00
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
| Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
| Recursos Básico: Nenhum
| Driver: hdc\0002
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
| Driver: ESDI_506.pdr
| Tamanho do
| arquivo: 24406 (0x5F56)
| Data do
| arquivo: 5/5/1999 10:22 PM
| Nome da
| empresa: Microsoft Corporation
| Versão do
| arquivo: 4.10.2222
|
| GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47
| DiskDrive
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\ESDI\GENERIC_IDE__DISK_TYPE47_\MF&CHILD0000&PCI&
VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100
| Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
| Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
| Recursos Básico: Nenhum
| Letra da unidade atual: CDEFGH
| Driver: DiskDrive\0000
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
|
| TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
| CDROM
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\SCSI\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS\MF&CHILD0001&PCI&
VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100
| Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
| Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
| Recursos Básico: Nenhum
| Driver: CDROM\0000
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
|
| GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK
| DiskDrive
| Chave do Registro:
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\FLOP\GENERIC_NEC__FLOPPY_DISK_\ACPI&*PNP0700&000
| Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
| Recursos Forçado: Nenhum
| Recursos Inicializar: Nenhum
| Recursos Filtrado: Nenhum
| Recursos Básico: Nenhum
| Letra da unidade atual: A
| Driver: DiskDrive\0001
| Data do driver: 5- 5-1999
|
|
|>(3) Bolt "History", use the mouse to highlight DVD information,
|> & use Ctlr-C to copy & post it.
| TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
| Configuração original Tue Jun 24 22:06:37 2008 para Date
| Recursos Alloc: Nenhum
|
|
|>(4) Click, copy & post "Problem Devices" too, if any.
| None
 
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Shadow

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:32:27 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=TSSTcorp+CD/DVDW+SH-S182F++dma&start=10&sa=N
>Google has about 132 for "TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F dma". I haven't
>read them all. Here is one...
>
>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/dvdguide005.html
>Enabling Direct Memory Access or "DMA" for faster DVD copying
>
>That article is speaking of WinXP. It says...
>
>"For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device
>after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If
>more that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and
>use only PIO mode on that device.
>In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only
>option for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and
>reinstall the device."
>
>Can it be similar in Win98? I see on glee's instructions you went the
>Device manager route to reinstall drivers. I'd think normally that to be
>enough. But how tough was it to install that DVD in the first place? Can
>you completely uninstall it so that it no longer appears in Device
>Manager at all-- then, reinstall it?

It reinstalls on reboot

Here is my key. DMA is currently "off"
..........................................................
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\SCSI\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS\MF&CHILD0001&PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100]
"Capabilities"=hex:14,00,00,00
"AutoInsertNotification"=hex:00
"SCSITargetID"="0"
"SCSILUN"="0"
"RevisionLevel"="SB02"
"ProductId"="CD/DVDW SH-S182F"
"Manufacturer"="TSSTcorp"
"DeviceType"=hex:05
"Removable"=hex:01
"CurrentDriveLetterAssignment"="I"
"IDEMaster"=hex:01
"DMACurrentlyUsed"=hex:00
"HardwareID"="TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS,GenCD,SCSI\\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS"
"Class"="CDROM"
"ClassGUID"="{4d36e965-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}"
"Driver"="CDROM\\0000"
"Mfg"="(Dispositivo padrão de CD-ROM)"
"DeviceDesc"="TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F"
"ConfigFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00
"Disconnect"=hex:01
"SyncDataXfer"=hex:00
 
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PCR

Shadow wrote:
| On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:32:27 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
|
|>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=TSSTcorp+CD/DVDW+SH-S182F++dma&st
art=10&sa=N
|>Google has about 132 for "TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F dma". I haven't
|>read them all. Here is one...
|>
|>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/dvdguide005.html
|>Enabling Direct Memory Access or "DMA" for faster DVD copying
|>
|>That article is speaking of WinXP. It says...
|>
|>"For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a
|>device after encountering certain errors during data transfer
|>operations. If more that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows
|>will turn off DMA and use only PIO mode on that device.
|>In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only
|>option for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and
|>reinstall the device."
|>
|>Can it be similar in Win98? I see on glee's instructions you went the
|>Device manager route to reinstall drivers. I'd think normally that to
|>be enough. But how tough was it to install that DVD in the first
|>place? Can you completely uninstall it so that it no longer appears
|>in Device Manager at all-- then, reinstall it?

| It reinstalls on reboot

I'm just not sure that constitutes a complete un/re-install-- especially
as you point it to C:\Windows\Inf for drivers. I'm speaking of JUST the
DVD-- not all the other stuff. MSInfo, History, for it showed...

TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
Configuração original Tue Jun 24 22:06:37 2008 para Date

I tend to doubt that actually is the date you first installed it. Do you
have a CD with its drivers? Are there instructions anywhere on how to
uninstall it? I might want to completely uninstall & then reinstall it--
maybe unless that involves actually unplugging it. That might be a
little too much trouble.

Why did you point it to C:\Windows\Inf for drivers? Where did you point
it the very first time when you originally installed it?

| Here is my key. DMA is currently "off"
| .........................................................
|
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\SCSI\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS\MF&CHILD0001&PCI
&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100]
| "Capabilities"=hex:14,00,00,00
| "AutoInsertNotification"=hex:00
| "SCSITargetID"="0"
| "SCSILUN"="0"
| "RevisionLevel"="SB02"
| "ProductId"="CD/DVDW SH-S182F"
| "Manufacturer"="TSSTcorp"
| "DeviceType"=hex:05
| "Removable"=hex:01
| "CurrentDriveLetterAssignment"="I"
| "IDEMaster"=hex:01
| "DMACurrentlyUsed"=hex:00

That looks like the big difference between yours & mine. Did you try
setting DMACurrentlyUsed to 01 & reboot? To do so...

R-Clk DMACurrentlyUsed, Modify, Delete key, type "01".

But this probably is the eqivalent of checking DMA in Device Manager-- &
probably it will not work. I'm still thinking. Maybe I'll try Google
again.

|
"HardwareID"="TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS,GenCD,SCSI\\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S
182FS"
| "Class"="CDROM"
| "ClassGUID"="{4d36e965-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}"
| "Driver"="CDROM\\0000"
| "Mfg"="(Dispositivo padrão de CD-ROM)"
| "DeviceDesc"="TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F"
| "ConfigFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00
| "Disconnect"=hex:01
| "SyncDataXfer"=hex:00

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
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Franc Zabkar

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:30:50 -0300, Shadow <sh@dow> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:47:23 -0400, "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Shadow" <sh@dow> wrote in message
>>news:kia56414frgspmk6rfqrga8b32k74an5kc@4ax.com...
>>
>>Yes. It shows DMA enabled for both Secondary IDE Channels. I am starting to think
>>the drive itself is going bad.


> Well, I just verified that. I had a 3.904 Gb backup to do, did
>it with Nero, in windows 98SE, and it took 93 minutes.
> I then fired up a livecd PClinux and burnt the same project in
>10 minutes and 4 seconds. using K3b.
> Both times using LG 16x media and programs set to "max speed".
>Both programs reported they were burning at 16x
>
> So it has to be a driver problem.


I find it hard to accept that turning off the DMA setting in Device
Manager is the root cause of a 9x performance difference.

Does your drive/controller/driver have problems reading as well?

- Franc Zabkar
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Franc Zabkar

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:05:35 -0300, Shadow <sh@dow> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>Here is my key. DMA is currently "off"
>.........................................................
>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\SCSI\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS\MF&CHILD0001&PCI&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100]
>"Capabilities"=hex:14,00,00,00
>"AutoInsertNotification"=hex:00
>"SCSITargetID"="0"
>"SCSILUN"="0"
>"RevisionLevel"="SB02"
>"ProductId"="CD/DVDW SH-S182F"
>"Manufacturer"="TSSTcorp"
>"DeviceType"=hex:05
>"Removable"=hex:01
>"CurrentDriveLetterAssignment"="I"
>"IDEMaster"=hex:01
>"DMACurrentlyUsed"=hex:00
>"HardwareID"="TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS,GenCD,SCSI\\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS"
>"Class"="CDROM"
>"ClassGUID"="{4d36e965-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}"
>"Driver"="CDROM\\0000"
>"Mfg"="(Dispositivo padrão de CD-ROM)"
>"DeviceDesc"="TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F"
>"ConfigFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00
>"Disconnect"=hex:01
>"SyncDataXfer"=hex:00


FWIW, here is an IDEtool that you might like to try:
http://ftp.tfvs.tp.edu.tw/Windows/Drivers/Bus Master/VIA_ide_3012/IDETOOL/

IDETOOL is described as "Via Technologies drive enhancement software".
It may not support your particular chipset, though.

One other approach may be to read the values of the actual PCI
registers that determine whether DMA is enabled or disabled.

I use a program by H. Oda called Wpcredit:
http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~nrklv/soft/wpcre14.exe

Select Edit -> Device and click your IDE Controller. I believe its
Function number should be 1, but I'm not sure of its device number
(could be 17). If your VT8237 southbridge chip is anything like
earlier VIA chips, then offsets 50-53 will contain the UDMA/PIO
settings for the four primary/secondary master/slave IDE devices.

If you post the values of those bytes, then we could possibly make
sense of them for you. For example, here is an excerpt from a VIA
VT8231 datasheet:

Offset 53-50 - UltraDMA Extended Timing Control ..... RW

bit function
--- ----------------------------------------------------------
31 Pri Drive 0 UltraDMA-Mode Enable Method

0 Enable by using “Set Feature” command.......... default
1 Enable by setting bit-30 of this register

30 Pri Drive 0 UltraDMA-Mode Enable

0 Disable........................................ default
1 Enable UltraDMA-Mode Operation

29 Pri Drive 0 Transfer Mode

0 DMA or PIO Mode ............................... default
1 UltraDMA Mode

If your solution requires turning on any of the above bits, then there
is a program called Wpcrset that can do it for you automatically at
every bootup. In fact I'm using it to tweak the memory settings in my
SiS chipset. I get about a 10% improvement in my RAM benchmarks.

Here are datasheets for two older (?) VIA southbridges:
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/3640621.pdf (VT8231)
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/3640622.pdf (VT8235M)

- Franc Zabkar
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Shadow

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:27:08 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:05:35 -0300, Shadow <sh@dow> put finger to
>keyboard and composed:


>FWIW, here is an IDEtool that you might like to try:
>http://ftp.tfvs.tp.edu.tw/Windows/Drivers/Bus Master/VIA_ide_3012/IDETOOL/

This makes my system unbootable. I tried it before
>
>IDETOOL is described as "Via Technologies drive enhancement software".
>It may not support your particular chipset, though.
>
>One other approach may be to read the values of the actual PCI
>registers that determine whether DMA is enabled or disabled.
>
>I use a program by H. Oda called Wpcredit:
>http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~nrklv/soft/wpcre14.exe
>
>Select Edit -> Device and click your IDE Controller. I believe its
>Function number should be 1, but I'm not sure of its device number
>(could be 17). If your VT8237 southbridge chip is anything like
>earlier VIA chips, then offsets 50-53 will contain the UDMA/PIO
>settings for the four primary/secondary master/slave IDE devices

..WPCREDIT Version 1.4 / Copyright (c) 1998-2004 By H.Oda!
----------------------------------------------------------
PCI Bus : 0 Vendor ID: 1106
Device : 15 Device ID: 0571
Function: 1 Revision : 06 IDE Controller
----------------------------------------------------------
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
00 | 06 11 71 05 07 00 90 02 06 8A 01 01 00 20 00 00
10 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 | 01 FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 43 10 ED 80
30 | 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 01 00 00
40 | 4B F2 09 05 18 8C C0 00 A8 A8 A8 20 FF 00 B6 B6
50 | 07 E6 17 F1 0C 00 00 00 A8 A8 A8 A8 00 00 00 00
60 | 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00
70 | 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
80 | 74 ED FE 00 00 00 00 00 F4 E9 FE 00 00 00 00 00
90 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
A0 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
B0 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
C0 | 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
D0 | 06 00 71 05 43 10 ED 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
E0 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
F0 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
----------------------------------------------------------
I also used this program, ages ago, can't for the life of remember
what for :p
Looking for vt8237 datasheets --- hard to find
 
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Shadow

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:18:48 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>Shadow wrote:
>| On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:32:27 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
>|
>I'm just not sure that constitutes a complete un/re-install-- especially
>as you point it to C:\Windows\Inf for drivers. I'm speaking of JUST the
>DVD-- not all the other stuff. MSInfo, History, for it showed...

Its plug and pray. You plug it in, windows installs it.
>
>TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
>Configuração original Tue Jun 24 22:06:37 2008 para Date
>
>I tend to doubt that actually is the date you first installed it. Do you
>have a CD with its drivers? Are there instructions anywhere on how to
>uninstall it? I might want to completely uninstall & then reinstall it--
>maybe unless that involves actually unplugging it. That might be a
>little too much trouble.

I've built computers for over 14 years (mine only). No
trouble. But the DVDBurner has no drivers, it uses the windows native
ones.
>
>Why did you point it to C:\Windows\Inf for drivers? Where did you point
>it the very first time when you originally installed it?

I have no other place to point to ..... there are no
non-windows drivers.
>
>| Here is my key. DMA is currently "off"
>| .........................................................
>|
>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\SCSI\TSSTCORPCD/DVDW_SH-S182FS\MF&CHILD0001&PCI
>&VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_80ED1043&REV_06&BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_0100]
>| "Capabilities"=hex:14,00,00,00
>| "AutoInsertNotification"=hex:00
>| "SCSITargetID"="0"
>| "SCSILUN"="0"
>| "RevisionLevel"="SB02"
>| "ProductId"="CD/DVDW SH-S182F"
>| "Manufacturer"="TSSTcorp"
>| "DeviceType"=hex:05
>| "Removable"=hex:01
>| "CurrentDriveLetterAssignment"="I"
>| "IDEMaster"=hex:01
>| "DMACurrentlyUsed"=hex:00
>
>That looks like the big difference between yours & mine. Did you try
>setting DMACurrentlyUsed to 01 & reboot? To do so...

Yes, one of the first things I did.
[]'s
 
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Franc Zabkar

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:30:26 -0300, Shadow <sh@dow> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>.WPCREDIT Version 1.4 / Copyright (c) 1998-2004 By H.Oda!
>----------------------------------------------------------
>PCI Bus : 0 Vendor ID: 1106
>Device : 15 Device ID: 0571
>Function: 1 Revision : 06 IDE Controller
>----------------------------------------------------------
> 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
> + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> 00 | 06 11 71 05 07 00 90 02 06 8A 01 01 00 20 00 00
> 10 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> 20 | 01 FC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 43 10 ED 80
> 30 | 00 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 01 00 00
> 40 | 4B F2 09 05 18 8C C0 00 A8 A8 A8 20 FF 00 B6 B6
> 50 | 07 E6 17 F1 0C 00 00 00 A8 A8 A8 A8 00 00 00 00


Using page 106 of the VT8235M datasheet as a guide, it seems to me
that byte 0x53 represents the "UltraDMA Extended Timing Control"
register for the primary master, 0x52 is for the primary slave, 0x51
is secondary master, and 0x50 is secondary slave.

Decoding the value of register 0x53, we have ...

0xF1 = 11110001b

AFAICT, this means that UDMA mode is being set by this register rather
than by the ATA Set Features command, UDMA is enabled, Pri Drive 0
Transfer Mode is UltraDMA Mode, an 80-pin cable is being used, and the
Pri Drive 0 Cycle Time is 3T (= 22.5ns).

Doing the same for register 0x52 (00010111b) suggests that there is no
primary slave, the Pri Drive 1 Cycle Time is 9T (=default), and the
cable is 80-pin.

The value of register 0x51 (11100110b) is telling us that UDMA mode is
being set by this register, UDMA is enabled, Sec Drive 0 Transfer Mode
is UltraDMA Mode, a 40-pin cable is being used, and the Sec Drive 0
Cycle Time is 8T (= 60ns).

Register 0x50 (00000111b) suggests that there is no secondary slave,
the Sec Drive 1 Cycle Time is 9T (=default), and the cable is 40-pin.

Maybe you could speed up your optical drive by experimenting with the
Cycle Time bits in register 0x51? Or try using an 80-pin cable?

- Franc Zabkar
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Franc Zabkar

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:32:27 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=TSSTcorp+CD/DVDW+SH-S182F++dma&start=10&sa=N
>Google has about 132 for "TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F dma". I haven't
>read them all. Here is one...
>
>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/dvdguide005.html
>Enabling Direct Memory Access or "DMA" for faster DVD copying
>
>That article is speaking of WinXP. It says...
>
>"For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device
>after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If
>more that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and
>use only PIO mode on that device.
>In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only
>option for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and
>reinstall the device."


I found the following Win XP registry hack, but it doesn't appear to
apply to Win9x.

Getting back to DMA mode in Windows XP:
http://sniptools.com/tipstricks/getting-back-to-dma-mode-in-windows-xp#comment1891

- Franc Zabkar
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