Cleaning up Old computer

[viclea]

I have an old computer with windows 98 loaded on it. I would like to clean
off the entire hard drive, but then reload Windows 98 back on it. I have a
cd with "Windows 98 Upgrade" on it. Will that load okay without anything
else? In other words, after I have completely cleaned off the hard drive and
I put the cd "Windows 98 Upgrade" in the drive, will it start automatically
and I can load a Windows 98?
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viclea

 

[Ron Badour]

No. With an upgrade CD, you will need to show it a W95 or earlier disk when
it asks for a qualifying product during installation.

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Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


"viclea" <viclea@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have an old computer with windows 98 loaded on it. I would like to clean
> off the entire hard drive, but then reload Windows 98 back on it. I have
> a
> cd with "Windows 98 Upgrade" on it. Will that load okay without anything
> else? In other words, after I have completely cleaned off the hard drive
> and
> I put the cd "Windows 98 Upgrade" in the drive, will it start
> automatically
> and I can load a Windows 98?
> --
> viclea

 

[Brian A.]

"viclea" <viclea@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B9103B6-50AF-40AE-BC61-B02F6AA337AF@microsoft.com...
>I have an old computer with windows 98 loaded on it. I would like to clean
> off the entire hard drive, but then reload Windows 98 back on it. I have a
> cd with "Windows 98 Upgrade" on it. Will that load okay without anything
> else? In other words, after I have completely cleaned off the hard drive and
> I put the cd "Windows 98 Upgrade" in the drive, will it start automatically
> and I can load a Windows 98?
> --
> viclea

I don't think an upgrade install disk will not work on a clean drive, I may be
off on that though. However, it will not work if you do not have a previous OS
install disk as a qualifier in order to upgrade. To use an upgrade disk you
must have an earlier OS from which to upgrade from as it will ask for the
earlier OS disk during install.


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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[Lee]

On Jun 29, 8:57 pm, "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
> "viclea" <vic...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0B9103B6-50AF-40AE-BC61-B02F6AA337AF@microsoft.com...
>
> >I have an old computer with windows 98 loaded on it.  I would like to clean
> > off the entire hard drive, but then reload Windows 98 back on it.  I have a
> > cd with "Windows 98 Upgrade" on it.  Will that load okay without anything
> > else?  In other words, after I have completely cleaned off the hard drive and
> > I put the cd "Windows 98 Upgrade" in the drive, will it start automatically
> > and I can load a Windows 98?
> > --
> > viclea
>
>   I don't think an upgrade install disk will not work on a clean drive, I may be
> off on that though.  However, it will not work if you do not have a previous OS
> install disk as a qualifier in order to upgrade.  To use an upgrade disk you
> must have an earlier OS from which to upgrade from as it will ask for the
> earlier OS disk during install.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko   { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts:  http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You are off on that one, Brian despite the confusing double negative.
A clean install is possible with an upgrade CD, when it asks for the
qualifying product you just place the 95 CD in the tray and let it
have a look see. The clean installation continues after the
inspection is done.

viclea - You'll need the Product Key number for the Windows 98 Upgrade
CD, a "Full" or non-upgrade Windows 95 CD, and a boot disk floppy.
No, it won't start automatically, you'll have to navigate in DOS to
the Win98 folder on the CD and type in the word:
setup

in order to get setup.exe to start installing windows. It works
better if you first copy the Win98 folder from the CD to the hard
drive and then do the installation from the hard drive's Win98
folder. It will be about ten minutes faster than installing from the
CD directly.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robert.bale4/formatinstall.htm
http://freepctech.com/guides.shtml
http://www.pcnineoneone.com/howto/

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Brian's post, if you read it properly, is exactly correct.
"I don't think an upgrade install disk will not work on a clean drive, I
may be off on that though."

He's right. An Upgrade copy of Win98 or 98SE will install clean to a freshly
formatted partition.

"However, it will not work if you do not have a previous OS install disk as
a qualifier in order to upgrade."

Reads to me as simple clarification of the requirements to use an Upgrade
version to clean install.

"To use an upgrade disk you must have an earlier OS from which to upgrade
from as it will ask for the earlier OS disk during install."

That says to me that you must have the previous OS that is to be upgraded in
either in floppy or CD format, which is true. You must have the WHOLE
installation package, since Setup varies as to which disk it asks for from a
floppy set.

Your instructions, however, were incomplete. Windows 3.11 is also an
eligible upgrade path for Windows 98, not just Windows 95. Win3.11, 95 and
98 are all upgrade paths to Win98SE.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:7e24b540-396d-4ead-9f4a-a3220c06d361@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 29, 8:57 pm, "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
> "viclea" <vic...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0B9103B6-50AF-40AE-BC61-B02F6AA337AF@microsoft.com...
>
> >I have an old computer with windows 98 loaded on it. I would like to
> >clean
> > off the entire hard drive, but then reload Windows 98 back on it. I have
> > a
> > cd with "Windows 98 Upgrade" on it. Will that load okay without anything
> > else? In other words, after I have completely cleaned off the hard drive
> > and
> > I put the cd "Windows 98 Upgrade" in the drive, will it start
> > automatically
> > and I can load a Windows 98?
> > --
> > viclea
>
> I don't think an upgrade install disk will not work on a clean drive, I
> may be
> off on that though. However, it will not work if you do not have a
> previous OS
> install disk as a qualifier in order to upgrade. To use an upgrade disk
> you
> must have an earlier OS from which to upgrade from as it will ask for the
> earlier OS disk during install.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You are off on that one, Brian despite the confusing double negative.
A clean install is possible with an upgrade CD, when it asks for the
qualifying product you just place the 95 CD in the tray and let it
have a look see. The clean installation continues after the
inspection is done.

viclea - You'll need the Product Key number for the Windows 98 Upgrade
CD, a "Full" or non-upgrade Windows 95 CD, and a boot disk floppy.
No, it won't start automatically, you'll have to navigate in DOS to
the Win98 folder on the CD and type in the word:
setup

in order to get setup.exe to start installing windows. It works
better if you first copy the Win98 folder from the CD to the hard
drive and then do the installation from the hard drive's Win98
folder. It will be about ten minutes faster than installing from the
CD directly.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robert.bale4/formatinstall.htm
http://freepctech.com/guides.shtml
http://www.pcnineoneone.com/howto/

 

[Brian A.]

"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:7e24b540-396d-4ead-9f4a-a3220c06d361@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 29, 8:57 pm, "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
> "viclea" <vic...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0B9103B6-50AF-40AE-BC61-B02F6AA337AF@microsoft.com...
>
> >I have an old computer with windows 98 loaded on it. I would like to clean
> > off the entire hard drive, but then reload Windows 98 back on it. I have a
> > cd with "Windows 98 Upgrade" on it. Will that load okay without anything
> > else? In other words, after I have completely cleaned off the hard drive and
> > I put the cd "Windows 98 Upgrade" in the drive, will it start automatically
> > and I can load a Windows 98?
> > --
> > viclea
>
> I don't think an upgrade install disk will not work on a clean drive, I may be
> off on that though. However, it will not work if you do not have a previous OS
> install disk as a qualifier in order to upgrade. To use an upgrade disk you
> must have an earlier OS from which to upgrade from as it will ask for the
> earlier OS disk during install.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

You are off on that one, Brian despite the confusing double negative.
A clean install is possible with an upgrade CD, when it asks for the
qualifying product you just place the 95 CD in the tray and let it
have a look see. The clean installation continues after the
inspection is done.

It is not incorrect, nor does it contain a double negtive, however, I will
concur that the way I worded it may be confusing. No matter, as I otherwise
stated, a previous OS disk will be required as a qualifier in order to upgrade.


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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375