What is status of Silverlight on 98?

[Smith]

I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.

Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?

 

[glee]

"Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
>
> Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?

Apparently not.

Silverlight system requirements:
http://www.microsoft.com/SILVERLIGHT/resources/install.aspx#sysreq

What is Silverlight, really?
http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9714748-2.html

Microsoft Silverlight - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverlight

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
>
> Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?

 

[Dan]

Very True and we must accept that the support that Windows 98 users get will
be from Microsoft supported Windows 98 Newsgroups and from the self-help area
of Microsoft articles within Technet and the Windows 98 Center.

"glee" wrote:

> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
> >
> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
>
> Apparently not.
>
> Silverlight system requirements:
> http://www.microsoft.com/SILVERLIGHT/resources/install.aspx#sysreq
>
> What is Silverlight, really?
> http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9714748-2.html
>
> Microsoft Silverlight - Wikipedia
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverlight
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>

 

[Dan]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second Edition is good and
safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in his website about Risk Management. I
am sitting nicely and now running 98 Second Edition as my main operating
system again since I downgraded to 512 sdram chip from 2 gigabytes and my
machine and myself are humming along nicely while all the DNS Pollution is
out there in the world. I await PCR's Response to this. <grins>

http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081

http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647

By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their patches for their
operating systems and so much for Apple being the safe and secure solution
that Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal always likes to proclaim in his
technology column.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
> >
> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
>
>
>

 

[PCR]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

Dan wrote:
| True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second Edition is
| good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in his website about Risk
| Management. I am sitting nicely and now running 98 Second Edition as
| my main operating system again since I downgraded to 512 sdram chip
| from 2 gigabytes and my machine and myself are humming along nicely
| while all the DNS Pollution is out there in the world. I await PCR's
| Response to this. <grins>

DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no evidence of it
yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what it would
look like if I had it, though. I do hope the mishmash of expert rules I
have downloaded into my Kerio Personal Firewall has it covered.

From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to do with
"translating host names to IP addresses (and vice versa)". So, it's a
matter of getting to the right site when an URL is clicked. If you get
to the wrong one, mischief can occur. But I'm not sure where the
poisoning would occur. Is it in one's machine or at a name server site?
What is the evidence of a poisoning?

|
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
|
| http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113

Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain systems.

| http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
|
| By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their patches for
| their operating systems and so much for Apple being the safe and
| secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal always
| likes to proclaim in his technology column.
|
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|
|> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
|>
|> --
|> Gary S. Terhune
|> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> http://grystmill.com
|>
|> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
|> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
|> >
|> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check the display a
notification about every script error box and then run Internet Explorer you
will get an idea of DNS Pollution. I noticied at work problems popping up
with scirpt errors recently and contacted corporate and the two seem to be
related but I am sure it is much more complicated than that but this can give
you an idicator of a problem at least to start with in my opinion.

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second Edition is
> | good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in his website about Risk
> | Management. I am sitting nicely and now running 98 Second Edition as
> | my main operating system again since I downgraded to 512 sdram chip
> | from 2 gigabytes and my machine and myself are humming along nicely
> | while all the DNS Pollution is out there in the world. I await PCR's
> | Response to this. <grins>
>
> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no evidence of it
> yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what it would
> look like if I had it, though. I do hope the mishmash of expert rules I
> have downloaded into my Kerio Personal Firewall has it covered.
>
> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to do with
> "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice versa)". So, it's a
> matter of getting to the right site when an URL is clicked. If you get
> to the wrong one, mischief can occur. But I'm not sure where the
> poisoning would occur. Is it in one's machine or at a name server site?
> What is the evidence of a poisoning?
>
> |
> http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
> |
> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
>
> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain systems.
>
> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
> |
> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their patches for
> | their operating systems and so much for Apple being the safe and
> | secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal always
> | likes to proclaim in his technology column.
> |
> | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------
> |
> |
> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> |
> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
> |>
> |> --
> |> Gary S. Terhune
> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> http://grystmill.com
> |>
> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
> |> >
> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

 

[PCR]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

Dan wrote:
| PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check the
| display a notification about every script error box and then run
| Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS Pollution. I noticied
| at work problems popping up with scirpt errors recently and contacted
| corporate and the two seem to be related but I am sure it is much
| more complicated than that but this can give you an idicator of a
| problem at least to start with in my opinion.

Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to keep an
eye & an ear open for the rest.

"PCR" wrote:
|
|> Dan wrote:
|> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second Edition is
|> | good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in his website about
|> | Risk Management. I am sitting nicely and now running 98 Second
|> | Edition as my main operating system again since I downgraded to
|> | 512 sdram chip from 2 gigabytes and my machine and myself are
|> | humming along nicely while all the DNS Pollution is out there in
|> | the world. I await PCR's Response to this. <grins>
|>
|> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no evidence of
|> it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what it
|> would look like if I had it, though. I do hope the mishmash of
|> expert rules I have downloaded into my Kerio Personal Firewall has
|> it covered.
|>
|> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to do with
|> "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice versa)". So, it's a
|> matter of getting to the right site when an URL is clicked. If you
|> get to the wrong one, mischief can occur. But I'm not sure where the
|> poisoning would occur. Is it in one's machine or at a name server
|> site? What is the evidence of a poisoning?
|>
|> |
|>
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
|> |
|> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|>
|> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain systems.
|>
|> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
|> |
|> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their patches for
|> | their operating systems and so much for Apple being the safe and
|> | secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal
|> | always likes to proclaim in his technology column.
|> |
|>
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> | -------------------------
|> |
|> |
|> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|> |
|> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Gary S. Terhune
|> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> http://grystmill.com
|> |>
|> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
|> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
|> |> >
|> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you. PCR use and how do
you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl, <broadband> or dial-up
<narrowband>. I am sure I asked you in the past but Gary S. Terhune has
correctly stated in the past that my memory is poor and that is indeed the
case because I am learning disabled which was diagnosed at age 6.

I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth but at least it
makes me a special and unique individual. Now, do I have a good perspective
of all my ailments or am I just truly fully crazy. <grinning madly -watch
out- LOL -- sorry Gary -- I cannot resist -- I hope the fires are better now
in California for Gary's sake>

By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to the us-cert.gov
site was one of the first to protect against DNS Pollution.


"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check the
> | display a notification about every script error box and then run
> | Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS Pollution. I noticied
> | at work problems popping up with scirpt errors recently and contacted
> | corporate and the two seem to be related but I am sure it is much
> | more complicated than that but this can give you an idicator of a
> | problem at least to start with in my opinion.
>
> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to keep an
> eye & an ear open for the rest.
>
> "PCR" wrote:
> |
> |> Dan wrote:
> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second Edition is
> |> | good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in his website about
> |> | Risk Management. I am sitting nicely and now running 98 Second
> |> | Edition as my main operating system again since I downgraded to
> |> | 512 sdram chip from 2 gigabytes and my machine and myself are
> |> | humming along nicely while all the DNS Pollution is out there in
> |> | the world. I await PCR's Response to this. <grins>
> |>
> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no evidence of
> |> it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what it
> |> would look like if I had it, though. I do hope the mishmash of
> |> expert rules I have downloaded into my Kerio Personal Firewall has
> |> it covered.
> |>
> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to do with
> |> "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice versa)". So, it's a
> |> matter of getting to the right site when an URL is clicked. If you
> |> get to the wrong one, mischief can occur. But I'm not sure where the
> |> poisoning would occur. Is it in one's machine or at a name server
> |> site? What is the evidence of a poisoning?
> |>
> |> |
> |>
> http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
> |> |
> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
> |>
> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain systems.
> |>
> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
> |> |
> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their patches for
> |> | their operating systems and so much for Apple being the safe and
> |> | secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal
> |> | always likes to proclaim in his technology column.
> |> |
> |>
> | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> |> | -------------------------
> |> |
> |> |
> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> |> |
> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
> |> |>
> |> |> --
> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> |> http://grystmill.com
> |> |>
> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross platform.
> |> |> >
> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

 

[PCR]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

Dan wrote:
| You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you. PCR use
| and how do you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl, <broadband> or
| dial-up <narrowband>. I am sure I asked you in the past but Gary S.
| Terhune has correctly stated in the past that my memory is poor and
| that is indeed the case because I am learning disabled which was
| diagnosed at age 6.
|
| I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth but at
| least it makes me a special and unique individual. Now, do I have a
| good perspective of all my ailments or am I just truly fully crazy.
| <grinning madly -watch out- LOL -- sorry Gary -- I cannot resist -- I
| hope the fires are better now in California for Gary's sake>
|
| By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to the
| us-cert.gov site was one of the first to protect against DNS
| Pollution.

I am Dial-Up using NetZero. I thought from that article you posted...
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
Vulnerability Note VU#800113

....that DNS pollution might be something for an ISP to solve (not the
user). I'm glad your Comcast has solved it for you. I'm sure NetZero
must be on it too. Anyhow, I've detected no symptoms.

You seem to be well enough to me, memory & all. I worry more that
Terhune will perish in an earthquake than in a fire. And if only his
governor would sit still, there'd be fewer of those too!

|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> Dan wrote:
|> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check the
|> | display a notification about every script error box and then run
|> | Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS Pollution. I
|> | noticied at work problems popping up with scirpt errors recently
|> | and contacted corporate and the two seem to be related but I am
|> | sure it is much more complicated than that but this can give you
|> | an idicator of a problem at least to start with in my opinion.
|>
|> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to keep an
|> eye & an ear open for the rest.
|>
|> "PCR" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second Edition
|> |> | is good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in his website
|> |> | about Risk Management. I am sitting nicely and now running 98
|> |> | Second Edition as my main operating system again since I
|> |> | downgraded to 512 sdram chip from 2 gigabytes and my machine
|> |> | and myself are humming along nicely while all the DNS Pollution
|> |> | is out there in the world. I await PCR's Response to this.
|> |> | <grins>
|> |>
|> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no evidence
|> |> of it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what
|> |> it would look like if I had it, though. I do hope the mishmash of
|> |> expert rules I have downloaded into my Kerio Personal Firewall has
|> |> it covered.
|> |>
|> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to do
|> |> with "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice versa)".
|> |> So, it's a matter of getting to the right site when an URL is
|> |> clicked. If you get to the wrong one, mischief can occur. But I'm
|> |> not sure where the poisoning would occur. Is it in one's machine
|> |> or at a name server site? What is the evidence of a poisoning?
|> |>
|> |> |
|> |>
|>
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
|> |> |
|> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|> |>
|> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain
|> |> systems.
|> |>
|> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
|> |> |
|> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their patches
|> |> | for their operating systems and so much for Apple being the
|> |> | safe and secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street
|> |> | Journal always likes to proclaim in his technology column.
|> |> |
|> |>
|>
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> |> | -------------------------
|> |> |
|> |> |
|> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
|> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> |> http://grystmill.com
|> |> |>
|> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
|> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross
|> |> |> >platform.
|> |> |> >
|> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

<bottom posted for fun and to keep people guessing>

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you. PCR use
> | and how do you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl, <broadband> or
> | dial-up <narrowband>. I am sure I asked you in the past but Gary S.
> | Terhune has correctly stated in the past that my memory is poor and
> | that is indeed the case because I am learning disabled which was
> | diagnosed at age 6.
> |
> | I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth but at
> | least it makes me a special and unique individual. Now, do I have a
> | good perspective of all my ailments or am I just truly fully crazy.
> | <grinning madly -watch out- LOL -- sorry Gary -- I cannot resist -- I
> | hope the fires are better now in California for Gary's sake>
> |
> | By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to the
> | us-cert.gov site was one of the first to protect against DNS
> | Pollution.
>
> I am Dial-Up using NetZero. I thought from that article you posted...
> http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
> Vulnerability Note VU#800113
>
> ....that DNS pollution might be something for an ISP to solve (not the
> user). I'm glad your Comcast has solved it for you. I'm sure NetZero
> must be on it too. Anyhow, I've detected no symptoms.
>
> You seem to be well enough to me, memory & all. I worry more that
> Terhune will perish in an earthquake than in a fire. And if only his
> governor would sit still, there'd be fewer of those too!
>
> |
> | "PCR" wrote:
> |
> |> Dan wrote:
> |> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check the
> |> | display a notification about every script error box and then run
> |> | Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS Pollution. I
> |> | noticied at work problems popping up with scirpt errors recently
> |> | and contacted corporate and the two seem to be related but I am
> |> | sure it is much more complicated than that but this can give you
> |> | an idicator of a problem at least to start with in my opinion.
> |>
> |> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to keep an
> |> eye & an ear open for the rest.
> |>
> |> "PCR" wrote:
> |> |
> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second Edition
> |> |> | is good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in his website
> |> |> | about Risk Management. I am sitting nicely and now running 98
> |> |> | Second Edition as my main operating system again since I
> |> |> | downgraded to 512 sdram chip from 2 gigabytes and my machine
> |> |> | and myself are humming along nicely while all the DNS Pollution
> |> |> | is out there in the world. I await PCR's Response to this.
> |> |> | <grins>
> |> |>
> |> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no evidence
> |> |> of it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what
> |> |> it would look like if I had it, though. I do hope the mishmash of
> |> |> expert rules I have downloaded into my Kerio Personal Firewall has
> |> |> it covered.
> |> |>
> |> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to do
> |> |> with "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice versa)".
> |> |> So, it's a matter of getting to the right site when an URL is
> |> |> clicked. If you get to the wrong one, mischief can occur. But I'm
> |> |> not sure where the poisoning would occur. Is it in one's machine
> |> |> or at a name server site? What is the evidence of a poisoning?
> |> |>
> |> |> |
> |> |>
> |>
> http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
> |> |> |
> |> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
> |> |>
> |> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain
> |> |> systems.
> |> |>
> |> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
> |> |> |
> |> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their patches
> |> |> | for their operating systems and so much for Apple being the
> |> |> | safe and secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The Wall Street
> |> |> | Journal always likes to proclaim in his technology column.
> |> |> |
> |> |>
> |>
> | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> |> |> | -------------------------
> |> |> |
> |> |> |
> |> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> |> |> |
> |> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
> |> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> |> |> http://grystmill.com
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
> |> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross
> |> |> |> >platform.
> |> |> |> >
> |> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
> |> |>
> |> |> --
> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> PCR
> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

You are correct, it certainly falls on the ISP side but the user must bug
the ISP for fixes as well as being ever more careful while surfing the web
and practice safe hex methods, of course. These few web sites may be of
interest to you or others.

http://isc.sans.org/

http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1213

The nice thing PCR about the 98 general newsgroup and especially posting
within older posts like this is nobody really cares or is interested and it
is nice to be somewhat subtle so you don't have to panic your average
computer users. It reminds me of Spiderman "With great power comes great
responsibility" not that I have any great power mind you and I just consider
it a knack for computers. BTW, I will be starting a newer lower dose of
thyroid medicine today because sure enough the old dose was too high again
and made me angry, irritated and hyper. I appreciate you and so many others
for caring for me and bearing me up and through these difficult times. You
guys especially you PCR and Robear are truly awesome and brilliant
individuals. (now I know I will probably get some post saying what about me
and yes you helped also but these 2 individuals are on the top of my head
right now of course. My head must be in the clouds and in dreamland again.
<grin and bear it -- LOL>

Dan W. aka Cloud aka Danimal (I have other nicknames but will not bore you
with them all -- smiles)

"_>

 

[PCR]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

Dan wrote:
| <bottom posted for fun and to keep people guessing>
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> Dan wrote:
|> | You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you. PCR use
|> | and how do you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl, <broadband>
|> | or dial-up <narrowband>. I am sure I asked you in the past but
|> | Gary S. Terhune has correctly stated in the past that my memory is
|> | poor and that is indeed the case because I am learning disabled
|> | which was diagnosed at age 6.
|> |
|> | I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth but at
|> | least it makes me a special and unique individual. Now, do I have
|> | a good perspective of all my ailments or am I just truly fully
|> | crazy. <grinning madly -watch out- LOL -- sorry Gary -- I cannot
|> | resist -- I hope the fires are better now in California for Gary's
|> | sake>
|> |
|> | By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to the
|> | us-cert.gov site was one of the first to protect against DNS
|> | Pollution.
|>
|> I am Dial-Up using NetZero. I thought from that article you posted...
|> http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|> Vulnerability Note VU#800113
|>
|> ....that DNS pollution might be something for an ISP to solve (not
|> the user). I'm glad your Comcast has solved it for you. I'm sure
|> NetZero must be on it too. Anyhow, I've detected no symptoms.
|>
|> You seem to be well enough to me, memory & all. I worry more that
|> Terhune will perish in an earthquake than in a fire. And if only his
|> governor would sit still, there'd be fewer of those too!
|>
|> |
|> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check the
|> |> | display a notification about every script error box and then run
|> |> | Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS Pollution. I
|> |> | noticied at work problems popping up with scirpt errors recently
|> |> | and contacted corporate and the two seem to be related but I am
|> |> | sure it is much more complicated than that but this can give you
|> |> | an idicator of a problem at least to start with in my opinion.
|> |>
|> |> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to
|> |> keep an eye & an ear open for the rest.
|> |>
|> |> "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second
|> |> |> | Edition is good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in
|> |> |> | his website about Risk Management. I am sitting nicely and
|> |> |> | now running 98 Second Edition as my main operating system
|> |> |> | again since I downgraded to 512 sdram chip from 2 gigabytes
|> |> |> | and my machine and myself are humming along nicely while all
|> |> |> | the DNS Pollution is out there in the world. I await PCR's
|> |> |> | Response to this. <grins>
|> |> |>
|> |> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no
|> |> |> evidence of it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not
|> |> |> exactly sure what it would look like if I had it, though. I do
|> |> |> hope the mishmash of expert rules I have downloaded into my
|> |> |> Kerio Personal Firewall has it covered.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to
|> |> |> do with "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice
|> |> |> versa)". So, it's a matter of getting to the right site when
|> |> |> an URL is clicked. If you get to the wrong one, mischief can
|> |> |> occur. But I'm not sure where the poisoning would occur. Is it
|> |> |> in one's machine or at a name server site? What is the
|> |> |> evidence of a poisoning?
|> |> |>
|> |> |> |
|> |> |>
|> |>
|>
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain
|> |> |> systems.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their
|> |> |> | patches for their operating systems and so much for Apple
|> |> |> | being the safe and secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The
|> |> |> | Wall Street Journal always likes to proclaim in his
|> |> |> | technology column.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |>
|> |>
|>
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> |> |> | -------------------------
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
|> |> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> |> |> http://grystmill.com
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
|> |> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> |> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross
|> |> |> |> >platform.
|> |> |> |> >
|> |> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|>
|>
|
| You are correct, it certainly falls on the ISP side but the user must
| bug the ISP for fixes as well as being ever more careful while
| surfing the web and practice safe hex methods, of course. These few
| web sites may be of interest to you or others.
|
| http://isc.sans.org/
|
| http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1213
|
| The nice thing PCR about the 98 general newsgroup and especially
| posting within older posts like this is nobody really cares or is
| interested and it is nice to be somewhat subtle so you don't have to
| panic your average computer users. It reminds me of Spiderman "With
| great power comes great responsibility" not that I have any great
| power mind you and I just consider it a knack for computers. BTW, I
| will be starting a newer lower dose of thyroid medicine today because
| sure enough the old dose was too high again and made me angry,
| irritated and hyper. I appreciate you and so many others for caring
| for me and bearing me up and through these difficult times. You guys
| especially you PCR and Robear are truly awesome and brilliant
| individuals. (now I know I will probably get some post saying what
| about me and yes you helped also but these 2 individuals are on the
| top of my head right now of course. My head must be in the clouds
| and in dreamland again. <grin and bear it -- LOL>
|
| Dan W. aka Cloud aka Danimal (I have other nicknames but will not
| bore you with them all -- smiles)

Alright. Glad I could help. You haven't made me as batty as poor Terhune
yet. I hope you recover fully or as close as possible.

| "_>

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | <bottom posted for fun and to keep people guessing>
> |
> | "PCR" wrote:
> |
> |> Dan wrote:
> |> | You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you. PCR use
> |> | and how do you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl, <broadband>
> |> | or dial-up <narrowband>. I am sure I asked you in the past but
> |> | Gary S. Terhune has correctly stated in the past that my memory is
> |> | poor and that is indeed the case because I am learning disabled
> |> | which was diagnosed at age 6.
> |> |
> |> | I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth but at
> |> | least it makes me a special and unique individual. Now, do I have
> |> | a good perspective of all my ailments or am I just truly fully
> |> | crazy. <grinning madly -watch out- LOL -- sorry Gary -- I cannot
> |> | resist -- I hope the fires are better now in California for Gary's
> |> | sake>
> |> |
> |> | By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to the
> |> | us-cert.gov site was one of the first to protect against DNS
> |> | Pollution.
> |>
> |> I am Dial-Up using NetZero. I thought from that article you posted...
> |> http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
> |> Vulnerability Note VU#800113
> |>
> |> ....that DNS pollution might be something for an ISP to solve (not
> |> the user). I'm glad your Comcast has solved it for you. I'm sure
> |> NetZero must be on it too. Anyhow, I've detected no symptoms.
> |>
> |> You seem to be well enough to me, memory & all. I worry more that
> |> Terhune will perish in an earthquake than in a fire. And if only his
> |> governor would sit still, there'd be fewer of those too!
> |>
> |> |
> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |
> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check the
> |> |> | display a notification about every script error box and then run
> |> |> | Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS Pollution. I
> |> |> | noticied at work problems popping up with scirpt errors recently
> |> |> | and contacted corporate and the two seem to be related but I am
> |> |> | sure it is much more complicated than that but this can give you
> |> |> | an idicator of a problem at least to start with in my opinion.
> |> |>
> |> |> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to
> |> |> keep an eye & an ear open for the rest.
> |> |>
> |> |> "PCR" wrote:
> |> |> |
> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second
> |> |> |> | Edition is good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in
> |> |> |> | his website about Risk Management. I am sitting nicely and
> |> |> |> | now running 98 Second Edition as my main operating system
> |> |> |> | again since I downgraded to 512 sdram chip from 2 gigabytes
> |> |> |> | and my machine and myself are humming along nicely while all
> |> |> |> | the DNS Pollution is out there in the world. I await PCR's
> |> |> |> | Response to this. <grins>
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no
> |> |> |> evidence of it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not
> |> |> |> exactly sure what it would look like if I had it, though. I do
> |> |> |> hope the mishmash of expert rules I have downloaded into my
> |> |> |> Kerio Personal Firewall has it covered.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has to
> |> |> |> do with "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice
> |> |> |> versa)". So, it's a matter of getting to the right site when
> |> |> |> an URL is clicked. If you get to the wrong one, mischief can
> |> |> |> occur. But I'm not sure where the poisoning would occur. Is it
> |> |> |> in one's machine or at a name server site? What is the
> |> |> |> evidence of a poisoning?
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |>
> |> |>
> |>
> http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain
> |> |> |> systems.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their
> |> |> |> | patches for their operating systems and so much for Apple
> |> |> |> | being the safe and secure solution that Walt Mossberg of The
> |> |> |> | Wall Street Journal always likes to proclaim in his
> |> |> |> | technology column.
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |>
> |> |>
> |>
> | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> |> |> |> | -------------------------
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
> |> |> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> |> |> |> http://grystmill.com
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
> |> |> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |> |> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross
> |> |> |> |> >platform.
> |> |> |> |> >
> |> |> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> |> PCR
> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |> |>
> |> |> --
> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> PCR
> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |
> | You are correct, it certainly falls on the ISP side but the user must
> | bug the ISP for fixes as well as being ever more careful while
> | surfing the web and practice safe hex methods, of course. These few
> | web sites may be of interest to you or others.
> |
> | http://isc.sans.org/
> |
> | http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1213
> |
> | The nice thing PCR about the 98 general newsgroup and especially
> | posting within older posts like this is nobody really cares or is
> | interested and it is nice to be somewhat subtle so you don't have to
> | panic your average computer users. It reminds me of Spiderman "With
> | great power comes great responsibility" not that I have any great
> | power mind you and I just consider it a knack for computers. BTW, I
> | will be starting a newer lower dose of thyroid medicine today because
> | sure enough the old dose was too high again and made me angry,
> | irritated and hyper. I appreciate you and so many others for caring
> | for me and bearing me up and through these difficult times. You guys
> | especially you PCR and Robear are truly awesome and brilliant
> | individuals. (now I know I will probably get some post saying what
> | about me and yes you helped also but these 2 individuals are on the
> | top of my head right now of course. My head must be in the clouds
> | and in dreamland again. <grin and bear it -- LOL>
> |
> | Dan W. aka Cloud aka Danimal (I have other nicknames but will not
> | bore you with them all -- smiles)
>
> Alright. Glad I could help. You haven't made me as batty as poor Terhune
> yet. I hope you recover fully or as close as possible.
>
> | "_>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
Thanks but what goes around comes around and as Gary S. Terhune made
you batty, I made Gary Batty and so 98 general continues as one big family,
imo. I am just glad I made it back and survived alpha, beta and gamma
radiation from XP and Vista. My Toshiba Vista has been sent back to be
repaired and hopefully purified from the radiation. The biometrics were
faulty as well as other issues and too many issues with Vista even though I
did indeed have a hand in beta testing it --- thanks to my friend Jeff who
was a system engineer and he has now gone on to the ministry. :-o

<shock and surprise --- sas -- lol -- getting the trick I guess -- grin <g>
:-!

 

[PCR]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

Dan wrote:
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> Dan wrote:
|> | <bottom posted for fun and to keep people guessing>
|> |
|> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> | You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you. PCR
|> |> | use and how do you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl,
|> |> | <broadband> or dial-up <narrowband>. I am sure I asked you in
|> |> | the past but Gary S. Terhune has correctly stated in the past
|> |> | that my memory is poor and that is indeed the case because I am
|> |> | learning disabled which was diagnosed at age 6.
|> |> |
|> |> | I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth but at
|> |> | least it makes me a special and unique individual. Now, do I
|> |> | have a good perspective of all my ailments or am I just truly
|> |> | fully crazy. <grinning madly -watch out- LOL -- sorry Gary -- I
|> |> | cannot resist -- I hope the fires are better now in California
|> |> | for Gary's sake>
|> |> |
|> |> | By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to the
|> |> | us-cert.gov site was one of the first to protect against DNS
|> |> | Pollution.
|> |>
|> |> I am Dial-Up using NetZero. I thought from that article you
|> |> posted... http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|> |> Vulnerability Note VU#800113
|> |>
|> |> ....that DNS pollution might be something for an ISP to solve (not
|> |> the user). I'm glad your Comcast has solved it for you. I'm sure
|> |> NetZero must be on it too. Anyhow, I've detected no symptoms.
|> |>
|> |> You seem to be well enough to me, memory & all. I worry more that
|> |> Terhune will perish in an earthquake than in a fire. And if only
|> |> his governor would sit still, there'd be fewer of those too!
|> |>
|> |> |
|> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check
|> |> |> | the display a notification about every script error box and
|> |> |> | then run Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS
|> |> |> | Pollution. I noticied at work problems popping up with
|> |> |> | scirpt errors recently and contacted corporate and the two
|> |> |> | seem to be related but I am sure it is much more complicated
|> |> |> | than that but this can give you an idicator of a problem at
|> |> |> | least to start with in my opinion.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to
|> |> |> keep an eye & an ear open for the rest.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second
|> |> |> |> | Edition is good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in
|> |> |> |> | his website about Risk Management. I am sitting nicely
|> |> |> |> | and now running 98 Second Edition as my main operating
|> |> |> |> | system again since I downgraded to 512 sdram chip from 2
|> |> |> |> | gigabytes and my machine and myself are humming along
|> |> |> |> | nicely while all the DNS Pollution is out there in the
|> |> |> |> | world. I await PCR's Response to this. <grins>
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no
|> |> |> |> evidence of it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not
|> |> |> |> exactly sure what it would look like if I had it, though. I
|> |> |> |> do hope the mishmash of expert rules I have downloaded into
|> |> |> |> my Kerio Personal Firewall has it covered.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has
|> |> |> |> to do with "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice
|> |> |> |> versa)". So, it's a matter of getting to the right site when
|> |> |> |> an URL is clicked. If you get to the wrong one, mischief can
|> |> |> |> occur. But I'm not sure where the poisoning would occur. Is
|> |> |> |> it in one's machine or at a name server site? What is the
|> |> |> |> evidence of a poisoning?
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |>
|> |>
|>
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain
|> |> |> |> systems.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their
|> |> |> |> | patches for their operating systems and so much for Apple
|> |> |> |> | being the safe and secure solution that Walt Mossberg of
|> |> |> |> | The Wall Street Journal always likes to proclaim in his
|> |> |> |> | technology column.
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |>
|> |>
|>
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> |> |> |> | -------------------------
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
|> |> |> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> |> |> |> http://grystmill.com
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
|> |> |> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> |> |> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross
|> |> |> |> |> >platform.
|> |> |> |> |> >
|> |> |> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |
|> | You are correct, it certainly falls on the ISP side but the user
|> | must bug the ISP for fixes as well as being ever more careful while
|> | surfing the web and practice safe hex methods, of course. These
|> | few web sites may be of interest to you or others.
|> |
|> | http://isc.sans.org/
|> |
|> | http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1213
|> |
|> | The nice thing PCR about the 98 general newsgroup and especially
|> | posting within older posts like this is nobody really cares or is
|> | interested and it is nice to be somewhat subtle so you don't have
|> | to panic your average computer users. It reminds me of Spiderman
|> | "With great power comes great responsibility" not that I have any
|> | great power mind you and I just consider it a knack for computers.
|> | BTW, I will be starting a newer lower dose of thyroid medicine
|> | today because sure enough the old dose was too high again and made
|> | me angry, irritated and hyper. I appreciate you and so many
|> | others for caring for me and bearing me up and through these
|> | difficult times. You guys especially you PCR and Robear are truly
|> | awesome and brilliant individuals. (now I know I will probably
|> | get some post saying what about me and yes you helped also but
|> | these 2 individuals are on the top of my head right now of course.
|> | My head must be in the clouds and in dreamland again. <grin and
|> | bear it -- LOL>
|> |
|> | Dan W. aka Cloud aka Danimal (I have other nicknames but will not
|> | bore you with them all -- smiles)
|>
|> Alright. Glad I could help. You haven't made me as batty as poor
|> Terhune yet. I hope you recover fully or as close as possible.
|>
|> | "_>
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|>
| Thanks but what goes around comes around and as Gary S. Terhune
| made you batty, I made Gary Batty and so 98 general continues as one
| big family, imo. I am just glad I made it back and survived alpha,
| beta and gamma radiation from XP and Vista. My Toshiba Vista has
| been sent back to be repaired and hopefully purified from the
| radiation. The biometrics were faulty as well as other issues and
| too many issues with Vista even though I did indeed have a hand in
| beta testing it --- thanks to my friend Jeff who was a system
| engineer and he has now gone on to the ministry. :-o
|
| <shock and surprise --- sas -- lol -- getting the trick I guess --
| grin <g> :-!

That's bad when the biometrics is faulty! Have that engineer say a dozen
Hail Mary's over that Vista machine! And don't turn it back on until the
radiation is halved! <g>.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

LOL, hopefully it will be down to minimal radiation status -- at least not
much above XP's radiation levels -- which are not too bad with using Classic
interface and a few tweaks -- grinning --- I can feel the peace of mind with
the broken Vista Laptop out of the house and on its merry way to Toshiba to
be repaired

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | "PCR" wrote:
> |
> |> Dan wrote:
> |> | <bottom posted for fun and to keep people guessing>
> |> |
> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |
> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> | You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you. PCR
> |> |> | use and how do you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl,
> |> |> | <broadband> or dial-up <narrowband>. I am sure I asked you in
> |> |> | the past but Gary S. Terhune has correctly stated in the past
> |> |> | that my memory is poor and that is indeed the case because I am
> |> |> | learning disabled which was diagnosed at age 6.
> |> |> |
> |> |> | I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth but at
> |> |> | least it makes me a special and unique individual. Now, do I
> |> |> | have a good perspective of all my ailments or am I just truly
> |> |> | fully crazy. <grinning madly -watch out- LOL -- sorry Gary -- I
> |> |> | cannot resist -- I hope the fires are better now in California
> |> |> | for Gary's sake>
> |> |> |
> |> |> | By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to the
> |> |> | us-cert.gov site was one of the first to protect against DNS
> |> |> | Pollution.
> |> |>
> |> |> I am Dial-Up using NetZero. I thought from that article you
> |> |> posted... http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
> |> |> Vulnerability Note VU#800113
> |> |>
> |> |> ....that DNS pollution might be something for an ISP to solve (not
> |> |> the user). I'm glad your Comcast has solved it for you. I'm sure
> |> |> NetZero must be on it too. Anyhow, I've detected no symptoms.
> |> |>
> |> |> You seem to be well enough to me, memory & all. I worry more that
> |> |> Terhune will perish in an earthquake than in a fire. And if only
> |> |> his governor would sit still, there'd be fewer of those too!
> |> |>
> |> |> |
> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
> |> |> |
> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> |> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and check
> |> |> |> | the display a notification about every script error box and
> |> |> |> | then run Internet Explorer you will get an idea of DNS
> |> |> |> | Pollution. I noticied at work problems popping up with
> |> |> |> | scirpt errors recently and contacted corporate and the two
> |> |> |> | seem to be related but I am sure it is much more complicated
> |> |> |> | than that but this can give you an idicator of a problem at
> |> |> |> | least to start with in my opinion.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue to
> |> |> |> keep an eye & an ear open for the rest.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> "PCR" wrote:
> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
> |> |> |> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second
> |> |> |> |> | Edition is good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us in
> |> |> |> |> | his website about Risk Management. I am sitting nicely
> |> |> |> |> | and now running 98 Second Edition as my main operating
> |> |> |> |> | system again since I downgraded to 512 sdram chip from 2
> |> |> |> |> | gigabytes and my machine and myself are humming along
> |> |> |> |> | nicely while all the DNS Pollution is out there in the
> |> |> |> |> | world. I await PCR's Response to this. <grins>
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no
> |> |> |> |> evidence of it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not
> |> |> |> |> exactly sure what it would look like if I had it, though. I
> |> |> |> |> do hope the mishmash of expert rules I have downloaded into
> |> |> |> |> my Kerio Personal Firewall has it covered.
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning has
> |> |> |> |> to do with "translating host names to IP addresses (and vice
> |> |> |> |> versa)". So, it's a matter of getting to the right site when
> |> |> |> |> an URL is clicked. If you get to the wrong one, mischief can
> |> |> |> |> occur. But I'm not sure where the poisoning would occur. Is
> |> |> |> |> it in one's machine or at a name server site? What is the
> |> |> |> |> evidence of a poisoning?
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |>
> |> |>
> |>
> http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
> |> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for certain
> |> |> |> |> systems.
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
> |> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their
> |> |> |> |> | patches for their operating systems and so much for Apple
> |> |> |> |> | being the safe and secure solution that Walt Mossberg of
> |> |> |> |> | The Wall Street Journal always likes to proclaim in his
> |> |> |> |> | technology column.
> |> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |>
> |> |>
> |>
> | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> |> |> |> |> | -------------------------
> |> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> |> |> |> |> |
> |> |> |> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete platforms.
> |> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
> |> |> |> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> |> |> |> |> http://grystmill.com
> |> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
> |> |> |> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |> |> |> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as cross
> |> |> |> |> |> >platform.
> |> |> |> |> |> >
> |> |> |> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
> |> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> |> |> PCR
> |> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> --
> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> |> PCR
> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |> |>
> |> |> --
> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> PCR
> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |> |>
> |> |>
> |> |>
> |> |
> |> | You are correct, it certainly falls on the ISP side but the user
> |> | must bug the ISP for fixes as well as being ever more careful while
> |> | surfing the web and practice safe hex methods, of course. These
> |> | few web sites may be of interest to you or others.
> |> |
> |> | http://isc.sans.org/
> |> |
> |> | http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1213
> |> |
> |> | The nice thing PCR about the 98 general newsgroup and especially
> |> | posting within older posts like this is nobody really cares or is
> |> | interested and it is nice to be somewhat subtle so you don't have
> |> | to panic your average computer users. It reminds me of Spiderman
> |> | "With great power comes great responsibility" not that I have any
> |> | great power mind you and I just consider it a knack for computers.
> |> | BTW, I will be starting a newer lower dose of thyroid medicine
> |> | today because sure enough the old dose was too high again and made
> |> | me angry, irritated and hyper. I appreciate you and so many
> |> | others for caring for me and bearing me up and through these
> |> | difficult times. You guys especially you PCR and Robear are truly
> |> | awesome and brilliant individuals. (now I know I will probably
> |> | get some post saying what about me and yes you helped also but
> |> | these 2 individuals are on the top of my head right now of course.
> |> | My head must be in the clouds and in dreamland again. <grin and
> |> | bear it -- LOL>
> |> |
> |> | Dan W. aka Cloud aka Danimal (I have other nicknames but will not
> |> | bore you with them all -- smiles)
> |>
> |> Alright. Glad I could help. You haven't made me as batty as poor
> |> Terhune yet. I hope you recover fully or as close as possible.
> |>
> |> | "_>
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |>
> |>
> | Thanks but what goes around comes around and as Gary S. Terhune
> | made you batty, I made Gary Batty and so 98 general continues as one
> | big family, imo. I am just glad I made it back and survived alpha,
> | beta and gamma radiation from XP and Vista. My Toshiba Vista has
> | been sent back to be repaired and hopefully purified from the
> | radiation. The biometrics were faulty as well as other issues and
> | too many issues with Vista even though I did indeed have a hand in
> | beta testing it --- thanks to my friend Jeff who was a system
> | engineer and he has now gone on to the ministry. :-o
> |
> | <shock and surprise --- sas -- lol -- getting the trick I guess --
> | grin <g> :-!
>
> That's bad when the biometrics is faulty! Have that engineer say a dozen
> Hail Mary's over that Vista machine! And don't turn it back on until the
> radiation is halved! <g>.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

 

[PCR]

Re: What is status of Silverlight on 98? Att: PCR

Dan wrote:
| LOL, hopefully it will be down to minimal radiation status -- at
| least not much above XP's radiation levels -- which are not too bad
| with using Classic interface and a few tweaks -- grinning --- I can
| feel the peace of mind with the broken Vista Laptop out of the house
| and on its merry way to Toshiba to be repaired

.

| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> Dan wrote:
|> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> | <bottom posted for fun and to keep people guessing>
|> |> |
|> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> | You are most welcome. BTW, which service provider do you.
|> |> |> | PCR use and how do you connect to the 'Net -- eg. cable, dsl,
|> |> |> | <broadband> or dial-up <narrowband>. I am sure I asked you
|> |> |> | in the past but Gary S. Terhune has correctly stated in the
|> |> |> | past that my memory is poor and that is indeed the case
|> |> |> | because I am learning disabled which was diagnosed at age 6.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | I will always have to deal with that for what it is worth
|> |> |> | but at least it makes me a special and unique individual.
|> |> |> | Now, do I have a good perspective of all my ailments or am I
|> |> |> | just truly fully crazy. <grinning madly -watch out- LOL --
|> |> |> | sorry Gary -- I cannot resist -- I hope the fires are better
|> |> |> | now in California for Gary's sake>
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | By the way, I connect with Comcast Cable which according to
|> |> |> | the us-cert.gov site was one of the first to protect against
|> |> |> | DNS Pollution.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> I am Dial-Up using NetZero. I thought from that article you
|> |> |> posted... http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|> |> |> Vulnerability Note VU#800113
|> |> |>
|> |> |> ....that DNS pollution might be something for an ISP to solve
|> |> |> (not the user). I'm glad your Comcast has solved it for you.
|> |> |> I'm sure NetZero must be on it too. Anyhow, I've detected no
|> |> |> symptoms.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> You seem to be well enough to me, memory & all. I worry more
|> |> |> that Terhune will perish in an earthquake than in a fire. And
|> |> |> if only his governor would sit still, there'd be fewer of
|> |> |> those too!
|> |> |>
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> |> | PCR, if you go into the Internet Explorer options and
|> |> |> |> | check the display a notification about every script error
|> |> |> |> | box and then run Internet Explorer you will get an idea
|> |> |> |> | of DNS Pollution. I noticied at work problems popping up
|> |> |> |> | with scirpt errors recently and contacted corporate and
|> |> |> |> | the two seem to be related but I am sure it is much more
|> |> |> |> | complicated than that but this can give you an idicator
|> |> |> |> | of a problem at least to start with in my opinion.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Alright. Thanks for the partial explanation. I'll continue
|> |> |> |> to keep an eye & an ear open for the rest.
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> Dan wrote:
|> |> |> |> |> | True, it is obsolete but I would say Windows 98 Second
|> |> |> |> |> | Edition is good and safe as Chris Quirke, MVP shows us
|> |> |> |> |> | in his website about Risk Management. I am sitting
|> |> |> |> |> | nicely and now running 98 Second Edition as my main
|> |> |> |> |> | operating system again since I downgraded to 512 sdram
|> |> |> |> |> | chip from 2 gigabytes and my machine and myself are
|> |> |> |> |> | humming along nicely while all the DNS Pollution is
|> |> |> |> |> | out there in the world. I await PCR's Response to
|> |> |> |> |> | this. <grins>
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> DNS poisoning is insidious & horrible, but I too see no
|> |> |> |> |> evidence of it yet in my machine. Unfortunately, I'm not
|> |> |> |> |> exactly sure what it would look like if I had it,
|> |> |> |> |> though. I do hope the mishmash of expert rules I have
|> |> |> |> |> downloaded into my Kerio Personal Firewall has it
|> |> |> |> |> covered.
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> From what I can make of that MS article, DNS poisoning
|> |> |> |> |> has to do with "translating host names to IP addresses
|> |> |> |> |> (and vice versa)". So, it's a matter of getting to the
|> |> |> |> |> right site when an URL is clicked. If you get to the
|> |> |> |> |> wrong one, mischief can occur. But I'm not sure where
|> |> |> |> |> the poisoning would occur. Is it in one's machine or at
|> |> |> |> |> a name server site? What is the evidence of a poisoning?
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |>
|> |>
|>
http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#apple_releases_security_update_20081
|> |> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> Going by that article, MS too has issued a patch for
|> |> |> |> |> certain systems.
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2647
|> |> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> | By the way, you guys see that Apple just released their
|> |> |> |> |> | patches for their operating systems and so much for
|> |> |> |> |> | Apple being the safe and secure solution that Walt
|> |> |> |> |> | Mossberg of The Wall Street Journal always likes to
|> |> |> |> |> | proclaim in his technology column.
|> |> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |>
|> |>
|>
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> |> |> |> |> | -------------------------
|> |> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
|> |> |> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> |> |> LOL! "Cross-platform" doesn't include obsolete
|> |> |> |> |> |> platforms.
|> |> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> |> |> Gary S. Terhune
|> |> |> |> |> |> MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> |> |> |> |> http://grystmill.com
|> |> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> |> "Smith" <smith@smith.com> wrote in message
|> |> |> |> |> |> news:uOekH5b3IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> |> |> |> |> |> >I have heard that M$ is promoting Silverlight as
|> |> |> |> |> |> >cross platform.
|> |> |> |> |> |> >
|> |> |> |> |> |> > Is it including Win 98 as a cross platform system?
|> |> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |> |> |>
|> |> |> |> --
|> |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |> |>
|> |> |>
|> |> |>
|> |> |
|> |> | You are correct, it certainly falls on the ISP side but the user
|> |> | must bug the ISP for fixes as well as being ever more careful
|> |> | while surfing the web and practice safe hex methods, of
|> |> | course. These few web sites may be of interest to you or
|> |> | others.
|> |> |
|> |> | http://isc.sans.org/
|> |> |
|> |> | http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1213
|> |> |
|> |> | The nice thing PCR about the 98 general newsgroup and especially
|> |> | posting within older posts like this is nobody really cares or
|> |> | is interested and it is nice to be somewhat subtle so you don't
|> |> | have to panic your average computer users. It reminds me of
|> |> | Spiderman "With great power comes great responsibility" not
|> |> | that I have any great power mind you and I just consider it a
|> |> | knack for computers. BTW, I will be starting a newer lower dose
|> |> | of thyroid medicine today because sure enough the old dose was
|> |> | too high again and made me angry, irritated and hyper. I
|> |> | appreciate you and so many others for caring for me and bearing
|> |> | me up and through these difficult times. You guys especially
|> |> | you PCR and Robear are truly awesome and brilliant individuals.
|> |> | (now I know I will probably get some post saying what about me
|> |> | and yes you helped also but these 2 individuals are on the top
|> |> | of my head right now of course. My head must be in the clouds
|> |> | and in dreamland again. <grin and bear it -- LOL>
|> |> |
|> |> | Dan W. aka Cloud aka Danimal (I have other nicknames but will
|> |> | not bore you with them all -- smiles)
|> |>
|> |> Alright. Glad I could help. You haven't made me as batty as poor
|> |> Terhune yet. I hope you recover fully or as close as possible.
|> |>
|> |> | "_>
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |>
|> |>
|> | Thanks but what goes around comes around and as Gary S.
|> | Terhune made you batty, I made Gary Batty and so 98 general
|> | continues as one big family, imo. I am just glad I made it back
|> | and survived alpha, beta and gamma radiation from XP and Vista.
|> | My Toshiba Vista has been sent back to be repaired and hopefully
|> | purified from the radiation. The biometrics were faulty as well
|> | as other issues and too many issues with Vista even though I did
|> | indeed have a hand in beta testing it --- thanks to my friend Jeff
|> | who was a system engineer and he has now gone on to the ministry.
|> | :-o
|> |
|> | <shock and surprise --- sas -- lol -- getting the trick I guess --
|> | grin <g> :-!
|>
|> That's bad when the biometrics is faulty! Have that engineer say a
|> dozen Hail Mary's over that Vista machine! And don't turn it back on
|> until the radiation is halved! <g>.
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net