Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" NTSF

G

GregCost

Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was
shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
effective) and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows
logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on
another drive on the system.

Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive
to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual
Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being
kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"

When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the
security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in
the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it
and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply
the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.
Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the
problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.

Tried a couple of things:

Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
"Access denied"
Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
"Access denied"

I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned
one level up

D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)

Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
<Account Domain not found>F
<Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F

WHEN I try the following:

D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F

response 1: are you sure?
response 2: The media is write protected

Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has
permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite
figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy
files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or
basic property accessibility

Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI

Thanks Greg
 
J

JS

Access is Denied Error Message XP Pro:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810881

Shared folder access:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/sdperms.htm

Also read this MS KB article about how to take ownership of files.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421

Understanding and Applying NTFS Permission in Windows XP Professional
http://www.winxpsolution.com/ApplyingNTFSXPPro.aspx

There is also a utility named: Unlocker
I have not used it but it has been mentioned a number of times.
http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/

JS


"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F5D0845F-FDAE-4501-85CF-96139533A8F9@microsoft.com...
> Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer
> was
> shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
> effective) and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after
> windows
> logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on
> another drive on the system.
>
> Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the
> drive
> to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual
> Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is
> being
> kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
>
> When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the
> security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not
> in
> the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it
> and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click
> apply
> the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission
> changes.
> Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to
> the
> problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
>
> Tried a couple of things:
>
> Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> "Access denied"
> Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> "Access denied"
>
> I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned
> one level up
>
> D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
>
> Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> <Account Domain not found>F
> <Account Domain not
> found><OI><CI><IO>F
>
> WHEN I try the following:
>
> D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
>
> response 1: are you sure?
> response 2: The media is write protected
>
> Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still
> has
> permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't
> quite
> figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to
> copy
> files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default?
> or
> basic property accessibility
>
> Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,
> SCSI
>
> Thanks Greg
>
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
<GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was
> shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
> effective)


You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll
address the question in your parenthesis above.

A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much
more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line
and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around

Two more points:

1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension
cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent
surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.

2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all
surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.


> and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows
> logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on
> another drive on the system.
>
> Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive
> to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual
> Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being
> kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
>
> When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the
> security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in
> the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it
> and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply
> the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.
> Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the
> problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
>
> Tried a couple of things:
>
> Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> "Access denied"
> Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> "Access denied"
>
> I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned
> one level up
>
> D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
>
> Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> <Account Domain not found>F
> <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F
>
> WHEN I try the following:
>
> D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
>
> response 1: are you sure?
> response 2: The media is write protected
>
> Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has
> permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite
> figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy
> files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or
> basic property accessibility
>
> Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI
>
> Thanks Greg

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
G

GregCost

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

Hi Ken, JS,

I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is a
cheap one - no more.

Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly

Greg

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
> <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was
> > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
> > effective)
>
>
> You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll
> address the question in your parenthesis above.
>
> A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much
> more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
> against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line
> and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
>
> Two more points:
>
> 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
> strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension
> cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent
> surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
>
> 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
> longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all
> surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
>
>
> > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows
> > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on
> > another drive on the system.
> >
> > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive
> > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual
> > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being
> > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
> >
> > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the
> > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in
> > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it
> > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply
> > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.
> > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the
> > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
> >
> > Tried a couple of things:
> >
> > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > "Access denied"
> > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > "Access denied"
> >
> > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned
> > one level up
> >
> > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
> >
> > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> > <Account Domain not found>F
> > <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F
> >
> > WHEN I try the following:
> >
> > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
> >
> > response 1: are you sure?
> > response 2: The media is write protected
> >
> > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has
> > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite
> > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy
> > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or
> > basic property accessibility
> >
> > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI
> >
> > Thanks Greg
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
 
G

GregCost

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to
wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:
0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.

I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and
where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.
On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig. The
failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives the new XP home edition with service
pack 3 installed.

The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard shutdown
on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure
that’s even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru
the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write protection
option turned on. I’ll also check to see if there is a jumper on the drive
for write protection.

Other possibilities … I did notice some sort of security ID that has a
Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP… when I
try and delete it XP report s the same “Media write Protectâ€.

Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?

Open to additional suggestions.

Thanks Greg


"GregCost" wrote:

> Hi Ken, JS,
>
> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is a
> cheap one - no more.
>
> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
>
> Greg
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my computer was
> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
> > > effective)
> >
> >
> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll
> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
> >
> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much
> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line
> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
> >
> > Two more points:
> >
> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension
> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent
> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
> >
> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all
> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
> >
> >
> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after windows
> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows on
> > > another drive on the system.
> > >
> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on the drive
> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE Visual
> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is being
> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
> > >
> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at the
> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID Is not in
> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP validates it
> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I click apply
> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission changes.
> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive to the
> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
> > >
> > > Tried a couple of things:
> > >
> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > > "Access denied"
> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > > "Access denied"
> > >
> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt positioned
> > > one level up
> > >
> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
> > >
> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> > > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> > > <Account Domain not found>F
> > > <Account Domain not found><OI><CI><IO>F
> > >
> > > WHEN I try the following:
> > >
> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
> > >
> > > response 1: are you sure?
> > > response 2: The media is write protected
> > >
> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question still has
> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system can't quite
> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able to copy
> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some default? or
> > > basic property accessibility
> > >
> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives, SCSI
> > >
> > > Thanks Greg
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
 
J

JS

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.

BART PE
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Puppy Linux:
http://www.puppylinux.org/

JS

"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...
> Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to
> wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:
> 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.
>
> I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and
> where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.
> On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig.
> The
> failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives the new XP home edition with
> service
> pack 3 installed.
>
> The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard
> shutdown
> on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure
> that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru
> the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write
> protection
> option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the
> drive
> for write protection.
>
> Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a
> Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when
> I
> try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".
>
> Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?
>
> Open to additional suggestions.
>
> Thanks Greg
>
>
> "GregCost" wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken, JS,
>>
>> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is
>> a
>> cheap one - no more.
>>
>> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
>> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my
>> > > computer was
>> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
>> > > effective)
>> >
>> >
>> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll
>> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
>> >
>> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much
>> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
>> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line
>> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
>> >
>> > Two more points:
>> >
>> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
>> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension
>> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent
>> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
>> >
>> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
>> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all
>> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
>> >
>> >
>> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
>> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after
>> > > windows
>> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows
>> > > on
>> > > another drive on the system.
>> > >
>> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on
>> > > the drive
>> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE
>> > > Visual
>> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is
>> > > being
>> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
>> > >
>> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at
>> > > the
>> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID
>> > > Is not in
>> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP
>> > > validates it
>> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I
>> > > click apply
>> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission
>> > > changes.
>> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive
>> > > to the
>> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
>> > >
>> > > Tried a couple of things:
>> > >
>> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
>> > > "Access denied"
>> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
>> > > "Access denied"
>> > >
>> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt
>> > > positioned
>> > > one level up
>> > >
>> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
>> > >
>> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
>> > > NT
>> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
>> > > <Account Domain not found>F
>> > > <Account Domain not
>> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F
>> > >
>> > > WHEN I try the following:
>> > >
>> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
>> > >
>> > > response 1: are you sure?
>> > > response 2: The media is write protected
>> > >
>> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question
>> > > still has
>> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system
>> > > can't quite
>> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able
>> > > to copy
>> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some
>> > > default? or
>> > > basic property accessibility
>> > >
>> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,
>> > > SCSI
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Greg
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>> >
 
G

GregCost

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

I'll give it a try, thanks JS

Greg

"JS" wrote:

> You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.
>
> BART PE
> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>
> Puppy Linux:
> http://www.puppylinux.org/
>
> JS
>
> "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...
> > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to
> > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:
> > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.
> >
> > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and
> > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.
> > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig.
> > The
> > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives the new XP home edition with
> > service
> > pack 3 installed.
> >
> > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard
> > shutdown
> > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure
> > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru
> > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write
> > protection
> > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the
> > drive
> > for write protection.
> >
> > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a
> > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when
> > I
> > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".
> >
> > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?
> >
> > Open to additional suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks Greg
> >
> >
> > "GregCost" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ken, JS,
> >>
> >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is
> >> a
> >> cheap one - no more.
> >>
> >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
> >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my
> >> > > computer was
> >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
> >> > > effective)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll
> >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
> >> >
> >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much
> >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
> >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line
> >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
> >> >
> >> > Two more points:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
> >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension
> >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent
> >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
> >> >
> >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
> >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all
> >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after
> >> > > windows
> >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows
> >> > > on
> >> > > another drive on the system.
> >> > >
> >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on
> >> > > the drive
> >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE
> >> > > Visual
> >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is
> >> > > being
> >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
> >> > >
> >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at
> >> > > the
> >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID
> >> > > Is not in
> >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP
> >> > > validates it
> >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I
> >> > > click apply
> >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission
> >> > > changes.
> >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive
> >> > > to the
> >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
> >> > >
> >> > > Tried a couple of things:
> >> > >
> >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> >> > > "Access denied"
> >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> >> > > "Access denied"
> >> > >
> >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt
> >> > > positioned
> >> > > one level up
> >> > >
> >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
> >> > >
> >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> >> > > NT
> >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> >> > > <Account Domain not found>F
> >> > > <Account Domain not
> >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F
> >> > >
> >> > > WHEN I try the following:
> >> > >
> >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
> >> > >
> >> > > response 1: are you sure?
> >> > > response 2: The media is write protected
> >> > >
> >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question
> >> > > still has
> >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system
> >> > > can't quite
> >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able
> >> > > to copy
> >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some
> >> > > default? or
> >> > > basic property accessibility
> >> > >
> >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,
> >> > > SCSI
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks Greg
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >> >
>
>
>
 
G

GregCost

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

Worked like a champ I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring the
drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.

I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on
SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or
trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change
the pattern. I'll post the results here.

Thanks again guys. Greg





"GregCost" wrote:

> I'll give it a try, thanks JS
>
> Greg
>
> "JS" wrote:
>
> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.
> >
> > BART PE
> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
> >
> > Puppy Linux:
> > http://www.puppylinux.org/
> >
> > JS
> >
> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...
> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the changes to
> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:
> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.
> > >
> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what and
> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013 error.
> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @ 137Gig.
> > > The
> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives the new XP home edition with
> > > service
> > > pack 3 installed.
> > >
> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard
> > > shutdown
> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not sure
> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives thru
> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write
> > > protection
> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the
> > > drive
> > > for write protection.
> > >
> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has a
> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP. when
> > > I
> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".
> > >
> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?
> > >
> > > Open to additional suggestions.
> > >
> > > Thanks Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > "GregCost" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Ken, JS,
> > >>
> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge protector is
> > >> a
> > >> cheap one - no more.
> > >>
> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my
> > >> > > computer was
> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it was not
> > >> > > effective)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but I'll
> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
> > >> >
> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of volts--much
> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power line
> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
> > >> >
> > >> > Two more points:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy extension
> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A decent
> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
> > >> >
> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge, all
> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death after
> > >> > > windows
> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install Windows
> > >> > > on
> > >> > > another drive on the system.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere on
> > >> > > the drive
> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF COURSE
> > >> > > Visual
> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important stuff is
> > >> > > being
> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
> > >> > >
> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look at
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my SID
> > >> > > Is not in
> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP
> > >> > > validates it
> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I
> > >> > > click apply
> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply permission
> > >> > > changes.
> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows drive
> > >> > > to the
> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > >> > > "Access denied"
> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is protected"
> > >> > > "Access denied"
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt
> > >> > > positioned
> > >> > > one level up
> > >> > >
> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub directory)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> > >> > > NT
> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> > >> > > <Account Domain not found>F
> > >> > > <Account Domain not
> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F
> > >> > >
> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
> > >> > >
> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?
> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in question
> > >> > > still has
> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system
> > >> > > can't quite
> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am able
> > >> > > to copy
> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is some
> > >> > > default? or
> > >> > > basic property accessibility
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all drives,
> > >> > > SCSI
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks Greg
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > >> >
> >
> >
> >
 
J

JS

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

You're welcome.
By the way, which utility did you use?

JS

"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-72F0C9B9275A@microsoft.com...
> Worked like a champ I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring
> the
> drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.
>
> I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on
> SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or
> trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change
> the pattern. I'll post the results here.
>
> Thanks again guys. Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> "GregCost" wrote:
>
>> I'll give it a try, thanks JS
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> "JS" wrote:
>>
>> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.
>> >
>> > BART PE
>> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>> >
>> > Puppy Linux:
>> > http://www.puppylinux.org/
>> >
>> > JS
>> >
>> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...
>> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the
>> > > changes to
>> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:
>> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.
>> > >
>> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what
>> > > and
>> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013
>> > > error.
>> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @
>> > > 137Gig.
>> > > The
>> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives the new XP home edition with
>> > > service
>> > > pack 3 installed.
>> > >
>> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard
>> > > shutdown
>> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not
>> > > sure
>> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives
>> > > thru
>> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write
>> > > protection
>> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the
>> > > drive
>> > > for write protection.
>> > >
>> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has
>> > > a
>> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP.
>> > > when
>> > > I
>> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".
>> > >
>> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?
>> > >
>> > > Open to additional suggestions.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Greg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "GregCost" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Ken, JS,
>> > >>
>> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge
>> > >> protector is
>> > >> a
>> > >> cheap one - no more.
>> > >>
>> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
>> > >>
>> > >> Greg
>> > >>
>> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
>> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my
>> > >> > > computer was
>> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it
>> > >> > > was not
>> > >> > > effective)
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but
>> > >> > I'll
>> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of
>> > >> > volts--much
>> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
>> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power
>> > >> > line
>> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Two more points:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
>> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy
>> > >> > extension
>> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A
>> > >> > decent
>> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
>> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge,
>> > >> > all
>> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
>> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death
>> > >> > > after
>> > >> > > windows
>> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install
>> > >> > > Windows
>> > >> > > on
>> > >> > > another drive on the system.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere
>> > >> > > on
>> > >> > > the drive
>> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF
>> > >> > > COURSE
>> > >> > > Visual
>> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important
>> > >> > > stuff is
>> > >> > > being
>> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look
>> > >> > > at
>> > >> > > the
>> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my
>> > >> > > SID
>> > >> > > Is not in
>> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP
>> > >> > > validates it
>> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I
>> > >> > > click apply
>> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply
>> > >> > > permission
>> > >> > > changes.
>> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows
>> > >> > > drive
>> > >> > > to the
>> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is
>> > >> > > protected"
>> > >> > > "Access denied"
>> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is
>> > >> > > protected"
>> > >> > > "Access denied"
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt
>> > >> > > positioned
>> > >> > > one level up
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub
>> > >> > > directory)
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
>> > >> > > NT
>> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
>> > >> > > <Account Domain not
>> > >> > > found>F
>> > >> > > <Account Domain not
>> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?
>> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in
>> > >> > > question
>> > >> > > still has
>> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system
>> > >> > > can't quite
>> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am
>> > >> > > able
>> > >> > > to copy
>> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is
>> > >> > > some
>> > >> > > default? or
>> > >> > > basic property accessibility
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all
>> > >> > > drives,
>> > >> > > SCSI
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Thanks Greg
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>> > >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
 
G

GregCost

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

PeBuilder. Greg

"JS" wrote:

> You're welcome.
> By the way, which utility did you use?
>
> JS
>
> "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-72F0C9B9275A@microsoft.com...
> > Worked like a champ I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring
> > the
> > drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.
> >
> > I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly on
> > SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on or
> > trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to change
> > the pattern. I'll post the results here.
> >
> > Thanks again guys. Greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "GregCost" wrote:
> >
> >> I'll give it a try, thanks JS
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> "JS" wrote:
> >>
> >> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.
> >> >
> >> > BART PE
> >> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
> >> >
> >> > Puppy Linux:
> >> > http://www.puppylinux.org/
> >> >
> >> > JS
> >> >
> >> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...
> >> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the
> >> > > changes to
> >> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32 error:
> >> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.
> >> > >
> >> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how, what
> >> > > and
> >> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013
> >> > > error.
> >> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @
> >> > > 137Gig.
> >> > > The
> >> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives the new XP home edition with
> >> > > service
> >> > > pack 3 installed.
> >> > >
> >> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the hard
> >> > > shutdown
> >> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not
> >> > > sure
> >> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the drives
> >> > > thru
> >> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write
> >> > > protection
> >> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on the
> >> > > drive
> >> > > for write protection.
> >> > >
> >> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that has
> >> > > a
> >> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows XP.
> >> > > when
> >> > > I
> >> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".
> >> > >
> >> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the above?
> >> > >
> >> > > Open to additional suggestions.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks Greg
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "GregCost" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Ken, JS,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge
> >> > >> protector is
> >> > >> a
> >> > >> cheap one - no more.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Greg
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
> >> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and my
> >> > >> > > computer was
> >> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it
> >> > >> > > was not
> >> > >> > > effective)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but
> >> > >> > I'll
> >> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of
> >> > >> > volts--much
> >> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real protection
> >> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the power
> >> > >> > line
> >> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Two more points:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really "power
> >> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy
> >> > >> > extension
> >> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A
> >> > >> > decent
> >> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it no
> >> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the surge,
> >> > >> > all
> >> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop protecting.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
> >> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of death
> >> > >> > > after
> >> > >> > > windows
> >> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install
> >> > >> > > Windows
> >> > >> > > on
> >> > >> > > another drive on the system.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from anywhere
> >> > >> > > on
> >> > >> > > the drive
> >> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF
> >> > >> > > COURSE
> >> > >> > > Visual
> >> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important
> >> > >> > > stuff is
> >> > >> > > being
> >> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and look
> >> > >> > > at
> >> > >> > > the
> >> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that my
> >> > >> > > SID
> >> > >> > > Is not in
> >> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP
> >> > >> > > validates it
> >> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but when I
> >> > >> > > click apply
> >> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply
> >> > >> > > permission
> >> > >> > > changes.
> >> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new Windows
> >> > >> > > drive
> >> > >> > > to the
> >> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied" messages.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is
> >> > >> > > protected"
> >> > >> > > "Access denied"
> >> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is
> >> > >> > > protected"
> >> > >> > > "Access denied"
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from DOS/Prompt
> >> > >> > > positioned
> >> > >> > > one level up
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub
> >> > >> > > directory)
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
> >> > >> > > NT
> >> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not
> >> > >> > > found>F
> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not
> >> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg Cost":F
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?
> >> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in
> >> > >> > > question
> >> > >> > > still has
> >> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP system
> >> > >> > > can't quite
> >> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I am
> >> > >> > > able
> >> > >> > > to copy
> >> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is
> >> > >> > > some
> >> > >> > > default? or
> >> > >> > > basic property accessibility
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all
> >> > >> > > drives,
> >> > >> > > SCSI
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Thanks Greg
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> >> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >> > >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>
 
J

JS

Re: Drive issues, Reinstall XP on second drive, " Access Denied" N

Thanks

JS

"GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E359C040-E2BC-4A84-9A8F-3DE25B59C406@microsoft.com...
> PeBuilder. Greg
>
> "JS" wrote:
>
>> You're welcome.
>> By the way, which utility did you use?
>>
>> JS
>>
>> "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:48EEF489-0110-46D9-BD47-72F0C9B9275A@microsoft.com...
>> > Worked like a champ I was ablt to retrieve the data obviously ignoring
>> > the
>> > drive's settings. ... Thanks JS and thank you Ken.
>> >
>> > I have a close friend who's a hard drive design engineer works mostly
>> > on
>> > SCSI. I am going to find out what bits, on the drive, were turned on
>> > or
>> > trashed indicating "media protect". Also if there is a zap util to
>> > change
>> > the pattern. I'll post the results here.
>> >
>> > Thanks again guys. Greg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "GregCost" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'll give it a try, thanks JS
>> >>
>> >> Greg
>> >>
>> >> "JS" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > You can use one of the two bootable CDs to retrieve those files.
>> >> >
>> >> > BART PE
>> >> > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>> >> >
>> >> > Puppy Linux:
>> >> > http://www.puppylinux.org/
>> >> >
>> >> > JS
>> >> >
>> >> > "GregCost" <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:FE4EB5C2-4B3D-4C51-A1C2-FFA621AA206F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > Tried the suggestions and they work until XP tries to write the
>> >> > > changes to
>> >> > > wherever it keeps them on the disk of issue and gets a WIN32
>> >> > > error:
>> >> > > 0x00000013 ERROR_WRITE_PROTECT The media is write-protected.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I need to understand, translate into something manageable how,
>> >> > > what
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > where the OS detects whatever bit is turned on to cause this 0x013
>> >> > > error.
>> >> > > On this machine I have 2 SCSI drives installed 2 @ 17Gig and 1 @
>> >> > > 137Gig.
>> >> > > The
>> >> > > failed disk is one of the 17Gig drives the new XP home edition
>> >> > > with
>> >> > > service
>> >> > > pack 3 installed.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The other possibility could be damaged media the result of the
>> >> > > hard
>> >> > > shutdown
>> >> > > on the drive causing XP to think the disk is write protected ( not
>> >> > > sure
>> >> > > that's even possible). I looked at the characteristics of the
>> >> > > drives
>> >> > > thru
>> >> > > the Adaptec SCSI BIOS software and I do not see any sort of write
>> >> > > protection
>> >> > > option turned on. I'll also check to see if there is a jumper on
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > drive
>> >> > > for write protection.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Other possibilities . I did notice some sort of security ID that
>> >> > > has
>> >> > > a
>> >> > > Question mark beside it, could be from the old version of windows
>> >> > > XP.
>> >> > > when
>> >> > > I
>> >> > > try and delete it XP report s the same "Media write Protect".
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Do you guys know of any product that would allow me to do the
>> >> > > above?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Open to additional suggestions.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks Greg
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "GregCost" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Hi Ken, JS,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I will try suggestions made by JS. and Ken I agree my surge
>> >> > >> protector is
>> >> > >> a
>> >> > >> cheap one - no more.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Gentlemen thanks, good stuff, will let you know shortly
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Greg
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:57:01 -0700, GregCost
>> >> > >> > <GregCost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > Unfortunately, a major thunderstorm passed thru my area and
>> >> > >> > > my
>> >> > >> > > computer was
>> >> > >> > > shut down hard (I do have a Surge protector - not sure why it
>> >> > >> > > was not
>> >> > >> > > effective)
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > You've already gotten a good answer to your major question, but
>> >> > >> > I'll
>> >> > >> > address the question in your parenthesis above.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > A nearby thunderstorm can generate surges of thousands of
>> >> > >> > volts--much
>> >> > >> > more than any surge protector can handle. The only real
>> >> > >> > protection
>> >> > >> > against a nearby thunderstorm strike is unplugging both the
>> >> > >> > power
>> >> > >> > line
>> >> > >> > and the internet connection whenever thunderstorms are around
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Two more points:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > 1. Most of the surge protectors that people use are really
>> >> > >> > "power
>> >> > >> > strips," costing $5-10 US. These are little more than fancy
>> >> > >> > extension
>> >> > >> > cords, and are almost useless at protecting against surges. A
>> >> > >> > decent
>> >> > >> > surge protector costs somewhere between $50 and $100.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > 2. Once a surge protector has protected against a big surge, it
>> >> > >> > no
>> >> > >> > longer will function as a surge protector. Even without the
>> >> > >> > surge,
>> >> > >> > all
>> >> > >> > surge protectors degrade over time and eventually stop
>> >> > >> > protecting.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > > and when I brought it up Windows was trashed, Missing system
>> >> > >> > > files, some noise about disk-drive errors, blue screen of
>> >> > >> > > death
>> >> > >> > > after
>> >> > >> > > windows
>> >> > >> > > logo screen loads A bunch of stuff, etc. So I had to install
>> >> > >> > > Windows
>> >> > >> > > on
>> >> > >> > > another drive on the system.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Accessing the Drive with issues: I can copy files from
>> >> > >> > > anywhere
>> >> > >> > > on
>> >> > >> > > the drive
>> >> > >> > > to the new windows drive except for "my documents" WEHRE OF
>> >> > >> > > COURSE
>> >> > >> > > Visual
>> >> > >> > > Studio Projects, Word documents, IPod, etc, all my important
>> >> > >> > > stuff is
>> >> > >> > > being
>> >> > >> > > kept being kept. When I try this I get is "Access is denied"
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > When I bring the system up in Safe Mode with networking and
>> >> > >> > > look
>> >> > >> > > at
>> >> > >> > > the
>> >> > >> > > security permission tab for the documents folder, I see that
>> >> > >> > > my
>> >> > >> > > SID
>> >> > >> > > Is not in
>> >> > >> > > the permissions list. When I try and add it (my user SID) XP
>> >> > >> > > validates it
>> >> > >> > > and it looks like I can now have access to it, great, but
>> >> > >> > > when I
>> >> > >> > > click apply
>> >> > >> > > the response is "media is write protected" cannot apply
>> >> > >> > > permission
>> >> > >> > > changes.
>> >> > >> > > Additionally when I try and copy anything from the new
>> >> > >> > > Windows
>> >> > >> > > drive
>> >> > >> > > to the
>> >> > >> > > problem one I get "Media is protected" "Access denied"
>> >> > >> > > messages.
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Tried a couple of things:
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Try to defrag it from new windows - same message: Media is
>> >> > >> > > protected"
>> >> > >> > > "Access denied"
>> >> > >> > > Try to repair it from new windows - same message: Media is
>> >> > >> > > protected"
>> >> > >> > > "Access denied"
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > I have also tried CACLS using the following - from
>> >> > >> > > DOS/Prompt
>> >> > >> > > positioned
>> >> > >> > > one level up
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > D:>\Documents and Settings> cacls greg (greg the sub
>> >> > >> > > directory)
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Response: D:>\Documents and Settings> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
>> >> > >> > > NT
>> >> > >> > > AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<OI><CI><IO>F
>> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not
>> >> > >> > > found>F
>> >> > >> > > <Account Domain not
>> >> > >> > > found><OI><CI><IO>F
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > WHEN I try the following:
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > D:> cacls "D\documents and settings" /T /E /C /G "Greg
>> >> > >> > > Cost":F
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > response 1: are you sure?
>> >> > >> > > response 2: The media is write protected
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Its not like damage (maybe) it's almost like the drive in
>> >> > >> > > question
>> >> > >> > > still has
>> >> > >> > > permissions from the now defunct XP system and the new XP
>> >> > >> > > system
>> >> > >> > > can't quite
>> >> > >> > > figure out how to change it for usage. Keep in mind that I
>> >> > >> > > am
>> >> > >> > > able
>> >> > >> > > to copy
>> >> > >> > > files from it except the original MY Documents. So there is
>> >> > >> > > some
>> >> > >> > > default? or
>> >> > >> > > basic property accessibility
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Any Help Greatly Appreciated! system: Windows XP, NTFS all
>> >> > >> > > drives,
>> >> > >> > > SCSI
>> >> > >> > >
>> >> > >> > > Thanks Greg
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > --
>> >> > >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> >> > >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>> >> > >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>
 
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