Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question

[kraut]

I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
2.

Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??

TIA

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

For Windows 98 SE (but NOT the original 98), you simply add a USB2 card.
Just make certain that Windows 98 SE drivers are supplied. Here's one that
will work:
http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Speed-USB-...ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1215826945&sr=1-2

If that link is broken, use TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/5agwyz

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"kraut" <NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
> with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
> need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
> 2.
>
> Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
>
> TIA
>
>

 

[MEB]

In newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com ,
kraut contemplated and posted:

| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
| with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
| need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
| 2.
|
| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
|
| TIA

Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would have been
configured as such.
To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be wise to find one
with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.

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[thanatoid]

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:#CxU$N84IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> In newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com ,
> kraut contemplated and posted:
>
>| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US
>| that came with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good
>| yet and does what I need it too. The only thing is that
>| it would be nice to have USB ver 2.
>|
>| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to
>| USB ver 2??
>|
>| TIA
>
> Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would
> have been
> configured as such.
> To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be
> wise to find one
> with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a motherboard from
a machine like the one described be unable to support the speed
of USB 2, even if you somehow found drivers for it?

USB2 is backwards compatible with 1.1 and if your machine is
that old (mine is even older), 1.1 will be enough of a treat,
IMHO. I am pretty sure you can't buy anything that's not ver. 2
by now, cards or peripherals.


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thanatoid: So why did you decide you needed broadband?
Neighbor: I wanted to read my e-mail faster.

 

[MEB]

In news:Xns9AD9314A8E463thanexit@66.250.146.158 ,
thanatoid contemplated and posted:

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in
| news:#CxU$N84IHA.4344@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
|
|> In newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com ,
|> kraut contemplated and posted:
|>
|>| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US
|>| that came with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good
|>| yet and does what I need it too. The only thing is that
|>| it would be nice to have USB ver 2.
|>|
|>| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to
|>| USB ver 2??
|>|
|>| TIA
|>
|> Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would
|> have been
|> configured as such.
|> To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be
|> wise to find one
|> with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.
|
| Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a motherboard from
| a machine like the one described be unable to support the speed
| of USB 2, even if you somehow found drivers for it?

quote
|> it would
|> have been
|> configured as such.
end quote

|
| USB2 is backwards compatible with 1.1 and if your machine is
| that old (mine is even older), 1.1 will be enough of a treat,
| IMHO. I am pretty sure you can't buy anything that's not ver. 2
| by now, cards or peripherals.

You woud be correct for new parts, but USB 1{.1} used adapters obviously
still exist..

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[kraut]

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:03:47 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com ,
>kraut contemplated and posted:
>
>| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
>| with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
>| need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
>| 2.
>|
>| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
>|
>| TIA
>
> Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would have been
>configured as such.
> To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be wise to find one
>with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.
>
>--
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>--
>_________

When I got system it had Win 98 and USB 2 was not out yet. That is
probably why it had version 1.

 

[MEB]

In news:06ui74pqem6crkr2ej861sup39aktcugnk@4ax.com ,
kraut contemplated and posted:

| On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:03:47 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| wrote:
|
|>In newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com ,
|>kraut contemplated and posted:
|>
|>| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
|>| with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
|>| need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB
|>| ver 2.
|>|
|>| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
|>|
|>| TIA
|>
|> Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would have been
|>configured as such.
|> To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be wise to
|>find one with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.
|>
|>--
|> MEB
|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|>--
|>_________
|
| When I got system it had Win 98 and USB 2 was not out yet. That is
| probably why it had version 1.

Well, what model Pakard Bell are we discussing, we can look at the specs to
see if the board supported USB 2.0.

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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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[Buffalo]

kraut wrote:
> I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
> with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
> need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
> 2.
>
> Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
>
> TIA

I bought a USB card that fits in a PCI slot and the cost was only around $10
US.
There are a wide variety including those that even have firewire, etc
connectors on them.
One place to check for a quick idea is pricewatch.com .

 

[kraut]

Thanks for reply. Will chech it out.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:44:45 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>For Windows 98 SE (but NOT the original 98), you simply add a USB2 card.
>Just make certain that Windows 98 SE drivers are supplied. Here's one that
>will work:
>http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Speed-USB-...ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1215826945&sr=1-2
>
>If that link is broken, use TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/5agwyz
>
>--
>Gary S. Terhune
>MS-MVP Shell/User
>http://grystmill.com
>
>"kraut" <NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> wrote in message
>newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
>> with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
>> need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
>> 2.
>>
>> Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
>>
>> TIA
>>

 

[kraut]

>|>
>|>| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
>|>| with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
>|>| need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB
>|>| ver 2.
>|>|
>|>| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
>|>|
>|>| TIA
>|>
>|> Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would have been
>|>configured as such.
>|> To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be wise to
>|>find one with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.
>|>
>|>--
>|> MEB
>|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>|>--
>|>_________
>|
>| When I got system it had Win 98 and USB 2 was not out yet. That is
>| probably why it had version 1.
>
> Well, what model Pakard Bell are we discussing, we can look at the specs to
>see if the board supported USB 2.0.
>
>--
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>--

Packard Bell
Model # LG SUPR 1985
Motherbroad MB930
Manufacturers Number 845589116
Manufacturers Date / Time 11/13/98 11:11 AM
Serial Number P486059838+
Case Type Micro ATX
CPU AMDK6
Speed 333 MHz
Memory Upgraded to 512 MB
Bios Version Award 5100111

The above info came from the PB system credentials program that came
with the system.

USB Controllers Acer Labs Hardware Version 003 from in device manager.

I tryed to install some USB hardware a while back and it would not go
because it said I had USB version 1.1 and need version2

 

[MEB]

In news:1v6l74ljvsepgl6qi6ep7j522asqhb8ler@4ax.com ,
kraut contemplated and posted:

|>|>| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
|>|>| with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
|>|>| need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB
|>|>| ver 2.
|>|>|
|>|>| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver
|>|>| 2??
|>|>|
|>|>| TIA
|>|>
|>|> Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would have
|>|>been configured as such.
|>|> To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be wise to
|>|>find one with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.
|>|>
|>|>--
|>|> MEB
|>|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|>|>--
|>|>_________
|>|
|>| When I got system it had Win 98 and USB 2 was not out yet. That is
|>| probably why it had version 1.
|>
|> Well, what model Pakard Bell are we discussing, we can look at the
|>specs to see if the board supported USB 2.0.
|>
|>--
|> MEB
|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|>--
|
| Packard Bell
| Model # LG SUPR 1985
| Motherbroad MB930
| Manufacturers Number 845589116
| Manufacturers Date / Time 11/13/98 11:11 AM
| Serial Number P486059838+
| Case Type Micro ATX
| CPU AMDK6
| Speed 333 MHz
| Memory Upgraded to 512 MB
| Bios Version Award 5100111
|
| The above info came from the PB system credentials program that came
| with the system.
|
| USB Controllers Acer Labs Hardware Version 003 from in device manager.
|
| I tryed to install some USB hardware a while back and it would not go
| because it said I had USB version 1.1 and need version2

Well, thought that would help, but it must be so old there isn't any
readily available info...

Okay, nearest I can find was originally configured for Win95, best possible
USB 1, so a USB 2.0 adapter and 98SE will be required.

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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

 

[kraut]

>
>|>|>| I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
>|>|>| with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
>|>|>| need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB
>|>|>| ver 2.
>|>|>|
>|>|>| Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver
>|>|>| 2??
>|>|>|
>|>|>| TIA
>|>|>
>|>|> Depends upon the motherboard, if it supported 2.0 it would have
>|>|>been configured as such.
>|>|> To get USB 2.0 buy an adapter which provides it. Might be wise to
>|>|>find one with the 98SE software/support IF it requires it.
>|>|>
>|>|>--
>|>|> MEB
>|>|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>|>|>--
>|>|>_________
>|>|
>|>| When I got system it had Win 98 and USB 2 was not out yet. That is
>|>| probably why it had version 1.
>|>
>|> Well, what model Pakard Bell are we discussing, we can look at the
>|>specs to see if the board supported USB 2.0.
>|>
>|>--
>|> MEB
>|> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>|>--
>|
>| Packard Bell
>| Model # LG SUPR 1985
>| Motherbroad MB930
>| Manufacturers Number 845589116
>| Manufacturers Date / Time 11/13/98 11:11 AM
>| Serial Number P486059838+
>| Case Type Micro ATX
>| CPU AMDK6
>| Speed 333 MHz
>| Memory Upgraded to 512 MB
>| Bios Version Award 5100111
>|
>| The above info came from the PB system credentials program that came
>| with the system.
>|
>| USB Controllers Acer Labs Hardware Version 003 from in device manager.
>|
>| I tryed to install some USB hardware a while back and it would not go
>| because it said I had USB version 1.1 and need version2
>
> Well, thought that would help, but it must be so old there isn't any
>readily available info...
>
> Okay, nearest I can find was originally configured for Win95, best possible
>USB 1, so a USB 2.0 adapter and 98SE will be required.
>
>--
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>--
>_________
>
>
>

The system was purchased new by me in 12/11/98 and came with Win98 and
2 usb 1 ports which I upgraded to 98se.

I have all the original books, receipts, etc for it so I know the
above info is correct and it did not have 95 on it.

Guess I will try the USB2 card Gary S. Terhune spoke about earlier.

 

[kraut]

Re: Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question for Gary S. Terhune

If I install the USB2 card you memtion below will I need to remove /
disable the 2 USB 1 ports the are in system now??

TIA

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:44:45 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>For Windows 98 SE (but NOT the original 98), you simply add a USB2 card.
>Just make certain that Windows 98 SE drivers are supplied. Here's one that
>will work:
>http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Speed-USB-...ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1215826945&sr=1-2
>
>If that link is broken, use TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/5agwyz
>
>--
>Gary S. Terhune
>MS-MVP Shell/User
>http://grystmill.com
>
>"kraut" <NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> wrote in message
>newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
>> with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
>> need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
>> 2.
>>
>> Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>

 

[Buffalo]

Re: Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question for Gary S. Terhune

kraut wrote:
> If I install the USB2 card you memtion below will I need to remove /
> disable the 2 USB 1 ports the are in system now??
>
> TIA
>
When I installed the PCI USB2 card on my Win98SE system, I did not have to
remove/disable my USB 1 ports. In fact, I use both at the same time.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question for Gary S. Terhune

No.

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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"kraut" <NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> wrote in message
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>
> If I install the USB2 card you memtion below will I need to remove /
> disable the 2 USB 1 ports the are in system now??
>
> TIA
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:44:45 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>
>>For Windows 98 SE (but NOT the original 98), you simply add a USB2 card.
>>Just make certain that Windows 98 SE drivers are supplied. Here's one that
>>will work:
>>http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Speed-USB-...ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1215826945&sr=1-2
>>
>>If that link is broken, use TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/5agwyz
>>
>>--
>>Gary S. Terhune
>>MS-MVP Shell/User
>>http://grystmill.com
>>
>>"kraut" <NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> wrote in message
>>newsmvf74tt3dlae8vkml2mv0qscgk00bbt5m@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a Packard Bell from when they were sold in the US that came
>>> with 98se and USB ver 1. The system runs good yet and does what I
>>> need it too. The only thing is that it would be nice to have USB ver
>>> 2.
>>>
>>> Is it possible and not too much trouble to change it to USB ver 2??
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>
>

 

[kraut]

Re: Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question for Gary S. Terhune

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:23:29 -0600, "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid>
wrote:

>
>
>kraut wrote:
>> If I install the USB2 card you memtion below will I need to remove /
>> disable the 2 USB 1 ports the are in system now??
>>
>> TIA
>>
>When I installed the PCI USB2 card on my Win98SE system, I did not have to
>remove/disable my USB 1 ports. In fact, I use both at the same time.
>

I opened my case and there are only 2 PCI slots of which one contains
the ethnet card ans the other the card for the modem so I guess that
means I do not install a USB 2 card.

It is too old a system to start over hauling it or whatever to get USB
2 capabilities so I guess it is use as is or get a new system! UGH

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question for Gary S. Terhune

Why do you need a network card AND a telephone modem? How do you connect to
the internet? Are you providing Internet Sharing from your machine?

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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"kraut" <NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> wrote in message
news:harn741lr62f744dc0jdahmmrejve0r8m9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:23:29 -0600, "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>kraut wrote:
>>> If I install the USB2 card you memtion below will I need to remove /
>>> disable the 2 USB 1 ports the are in system now??
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>When I installed the PCI USB2 card on my Win98SE system, I did not have to
>>remove/disable my USB 1 ports. In fact, I use both at the same time.
>>
>
> I opened my case and there are only 2 PCI slots of which one contains
> the ethnet card ans the other the card for the modem so I guess that
> means I do not install a USB 2 card.
>
> It is too old a system to start over hauling it or whatever to get USB
> 2 capabilities so I guess it is use as is or get a new system! UGH
>
>
>

 

[kraut]

Re: Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question for Gary S. Terhune

The ethernet card (network card) is for the high speed DSL modem and
the card for the moden or whatever was installed when I got the
Packard Bell system new back in 1998.

I could probably remove the card for modem but I use it if I ever need
a backup plus I do not really know a lot about working on these so to
remove it and do whatever I would have to get it done and it is too
old a system for me to start monkeying with it and putting money into
it.

So------- As I said I guess it is use as is or get new system.

Thanks all.


>Why do you need a network card AND a telephone modem? How do you connect to
>the internet? Are you providing Internet Sharing from your machine?
>

>>>> If I install the USB2 card you memtion below will I need to remove /
>>>> disable the 2 USB 1 ports the are in system now??
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>

>>>When I installed the PCI USB2 card on my Win98SE system, I did not have to
>>>remove/disable my USB 1 ports. In fact, I use both at the same time.
>>>

>>
>> I opened my case and there are only 2 PCI slots of which one contains
>> the ethnet card ans the other the card for the modem so I guess that
>> means I do not install a USB 2 card.
>>
>> It is too old a system to start over hauling it or whatever to get USB
>> 2 capabilities so I guess it is use as is or get a new system! UGH
>>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Win 98se USB ver 1 to ver 2 update question for Gary S. Terhune

Ahh, well if you're looking for the right reason, now isn't a bad time to be
considering your options relative to getting a new machine. There's still
plenty of XP's around, or you can go for Vista and a rather steeper learning
curve.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"kraut" <NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> The ethernet card (network card) is for the high speed DSL modem and
> the card for the moden or whatever was installed when I got the
> Packard Bell system new back in 1998.
>
> I could probably remove the card for modem but I use it if I ever need
> a backup plus I do not really know a lot about working on these so to
> remove it and do whatever I would have to get it done and it is too
> old a system for me to start monkeying with it and putting money into
> it.
>
> So------- As I said I guess it is use as is or get new system.
>
> Thanks all.
>
>
>>Why do you need a network card AND a telephone modem? How do you connect
>>to
>>the internet? Are you providing Internet Sharing from your machine?
>>
>
>>>>> If I install the USB2 card you memtion below will I need to remove /
>>>>> disable the 2 USB 1 ports the are in system now??
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>
>>>>When I installed the PCI USB2 card on my Win98SE system, I did not have
>>>>to
>>>>remove/disable my USB 1 ports. In fact, I use both at the same time.
>>>>
>
>>>
>>> I opened my case and there are only 2 PCI slots of which one contains
>>> the ethnet card ans the other the card for the modem so I guess that
>>> means I do not install a USB 2 card.
>>>
>>> It is too old a system to start over hauling it or whatever to get USB
>>> 2 capabilities so I guess it is use as is or get a new system! UGH
>>>
>

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:22:01 -0400, kraut
<NewsGroupsPlease@NewsGroupsPlease.org> put finger to keyboard and
composed:

>Packard Bell
>Model # LG SUPR 1985
>Motherbroad MB930

I think this is your motherboard:
http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/mb/930.htm

Chipset : ALi Aladdin V M1541/M1543C AGP/PCI/ISA

Interfaces :
Dual USB connector

The absence of a specific reference to USB 1.1 or 2.0 suggests that
your onboard USB is not 2.0 capable.

In fact the datasheet for the Aladdin V chipset ...

http://ssu5.sumdu.edu.ua/Drivers/mb/ali/doc/1541pbc4.pdf..pdf

.... states that it only supports USB 1.0a.

====================================================================
USB Interface

· One Root Hub with three USB ports based on OpenHCI 1.0a
specification

· Supports FS (12Mbits/sec) and LS (1.5Mbits/sec) Serial Transfer

· Supports Legacy Keyboard and Mouse Software with USB-based Keyboard
and mouse
====================================================================

- Franc Zabkar
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