Windows 98 Will Not Start Up

[brbrown]

For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It freezes
on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way I
can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can choose
to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one at a
time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

 

[Don Phillipson]

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...

> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
freezes
> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
I
> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
choose
> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
at a
> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.

1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.

2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
in case Win98 has been preloaded.

3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
BootGUI=1
which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.

4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
update from the MS web site.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 

[Ron Badour]

Not sure this will work but it doesn't cost anything to try. Boot with a
floppy start up disk. At the A: prompt, type: C: and hit enter. At
the C: prompt, type: exit and hit enter. Remove the disk and try
rebooting.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> freezes
> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> I
> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> choose
> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> at a
> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>

 

[glee]

Does it start successfully in Safe Mode?

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
> For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It freezes
> on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way I
> can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can choose
> to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one at a
> time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

[brbrown]

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
>
> > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> freezes
> > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> I
> > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> choose
> > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> at a
> > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>
> 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
> report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
> But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
> which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
>
> 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
> message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
> a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
> If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
> in case Win98 has been preloaded.
>
> 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
> or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
> BootGUI=1
> which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
>
> 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
> or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
> be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
> update from the MS web site.
>
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)
>
> Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
>

 

[Dan]

Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and any
more error messages that you run into.

"brbrown" wrote:

>
>
> "Don Phillipson" wrote:
>
> > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
> >
> > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> > freezes
> > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> > I
> > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> > choose
> > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> > at a
> > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
> >
> > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
> > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
> > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
> > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
> >
> > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
> > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
> > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
> > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
> > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
> >
> > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
> > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
> > BootGUI=1
> > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
> >
> > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
> > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
> > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
> > update from the MS web site.
> >
> > --
> > Don Phillipson
> > Carlsbad Springs
> > (Ottawa, Canada)
> >
> > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> >

 

[brbrown]

"Dan" wrote:

> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and any
> more error messages that you run into.
>
> "brbrown" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
> >
> > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
> > > freezes
> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos key is
> > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The only way
> > > I
> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I can
> > > choose
> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all applications one
> > > at a
> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
> > >
> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
> > >
> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
> > >
> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
> > > BootGUI=1
> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
> > >
> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
> > > update from the MS web site.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Don Phillipson
> > > Carlsbad Springs
> > > (Ottawa, Canada)
> > >
> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> > >

Hello Folks

I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
can't connect to the internet.

 

[MEB]

You likely need to install at least 5.1 of IE. It contained numerous
Internet/connection related updates... and you'll need the system updates as
well.
NOTE that if you're running SE, you MAY need IE6 installed to get full
functionality.

Make sure you have installed DUN and its update, and set your TCP/IP
properly.

Are you behind a router, firewall, >>> exactly how do you connect to the
Internet normally?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________



"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...
|
|
| "Dan" wrote:
|
| > Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and
any
| > more error messages that you run into.
| >
| > "brbrown" wrote:
| >
| > >
| > >
| > > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
| > >
| > > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
| > > >
| > > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up..
It
| > > > freezes
| > > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos
key is
| > > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The
only way
| > > > I
| > > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I
can
| > > > choose
| > > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all
applications one
| > > > at a
| > > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
| > > >
| > > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
| > > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
| > > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
| > > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
| > > >
| > > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
| > > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
| > > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
| > > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
| > > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
| > > >
| > > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
| > > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
| > > > BootGUI=1
| > > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
| > > >
| > > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
| > > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
| > > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
| > > > update from the MS web site.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Don Phillipson
| > > > Carlsbad Springs
| > > > (Ottawa, Canada)
| > > >
| > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no
avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to
reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet
managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer).
Many thanks anyway for all your help.
| > > >
|
| Hello Folks
|
| I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but
I
| cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
| which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
| can't connect to the internet.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Just in case... Start>Run>WINIPCFG<enter>

Press Release All, then press Renew All. What are the returns?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
>> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress and
>> any
>> more error messages that you run into.
>>
>> "brbrown" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
>> >
>> > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
>> > >
>> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start up.. It
>> > > freezes
>> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the "Dos
>> > > > key is
>> > > > installed" and "Mode select code page function is completed". The
>> > > > only way
>> > > I
>> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which I
>> > > > can
>> > > choose
>> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all
>> > > > applications one
>> > > at a
>> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
>> > >
>> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
>> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
>> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
>> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
>> > >
>> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
>> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
>> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
>> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
>> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
>> > >
>> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
>> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
>> > > BootGUI=1
>> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
>> > >
>> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
>> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
>> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
>> > > update from the MS web site.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Don Phillipson
>> > > Carlsbad Springs
>> > > (Ottawa, Canada)
>> > >
>> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no
>> > > avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just
>> > > decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful
>> > > although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam
>> > > writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your
>> > > help.
>> > >
>
> Hello Folks
>
> I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but
> I
> cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> can't connect to the internet.

 

[PCR]

brbrown wrote:
| "Dan" wrote:
|
|> Are you doing a clean install? Please let us know of your progress
|> and any more error messages that you run into.
|>
|> "brbrown" wrote:
|>
|> >
|> >
|> > "Don Phillipson" wrote:
|> >
|> > > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> > > news:3E0AB864-B328-4B71-882C-EB34D68B53F2@microsoft.com...
|> > >
|> > > > For no obvious reason, my Windows 98 computer wil not start
|> > > > up.. It
|> > > freezes
|> > > > on the first black screen with white writing stating that the
|> > > > "Dos key is installed" and "Mode select code page function is
|> > > > completed". The only way
|> > > I
|> > > > can get rid of this is to press the restart button after which
|> > > > I can
|> > > choose
|> > > > to start in Safe Mode. I have then tried to disable all
|> > > > applications one
|> > > at a
|> > > > time to find the problem to no avail. Any one any ideas please.
|> > >
|> > > 1. The DOSKEY and MODE SELECT messages you see
|> > > report results after running AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS.
|> > > But Win98 does not require these files (legacies from Win95
|> > > which did require them.) Rename both files in C:\ and try again.
|> > >
|> > > 2. The OP did not say what happens after the MODE SELECT
|> > > message viz. whether you get a DOS prompt like A> or C>.or
|> > > a menu of 5 items including DOS, Windows, Safe Mode etc.
|> > > If so you can try running C:\WINDOWS\WIN.COM just
|> > > in case Win98 has been preloaded.
|> > >
|> > > 3. In Safe Mode you can review MSCONFIG startup settings
|> > > or edit MSDOS.SYS to be sure the [Options] group includes
|> > > BootGUI=1
|> > > which loads the Graphic User Interface for Windows.
|> > >
|> > > 4. The OP did not say when Win98 last ran OK on this PC
|> > > or what antivirus routines were followed. If in doubt, it may
|> > > be faster to reinstal the OS from the system CDs and then
|> > > update from the MS web site.
|> > >
|> > > --
|> > > Don Phillipson
|> > > Carlsbad Springs
|> > > (Ottawa, Canada)
|> > >
|> > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to
|> > > no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have
|> > > just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been
|> > > successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the
|> > > internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks
|> > > anyway for all your help.
|> > >
|
| Hello Folks
|
| I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting
| but I cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean
| restore of W98 which was successful although I still haven't been
| able to find out why I can't connect to the internet.

Did you do...?...

(a) a fresh install from a Win98 Installation CD,
(b) a system restore from a manufacturer's CD, or
(c) a system restore from a full system backup of your own?

If your version of IE is not at least v.5.5 (or so), you must upgrade it
before you may use Windows Update, as Terhune once discovered. However,
the rest of the internet should work just fine in the meantime-- PA Bear
said!

Is your modem (if you use one) showing well in Device Manager, without
any red/yellow ?/! on it?

Did you reinstall your ISP & click its connectoid? That may be all you
need to do. If it fails, perhaps try...

"START, Programs, Accessories, Communications, Internet Connections
Wizard"


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Ben Myers]

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...
<snip>>
> > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
>
> I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
> cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> can't connect to the internet.

Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.

Ben

 

[brbrown]

"Ben Myers" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...
> <snip>>
> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> >
> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> > can't connect to the internet.
>
> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.
>
> Ben
>
Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it
cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my
MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.
I'll post again with the results

 

[glee]

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9A8FEA7B-756F-4B2B-BA5F-FDDF11B3E0AC@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Ben Myers" wrote:
>
>> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...
>> <snip>>
>> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail
>> > > > > and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to
>> > > > > reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't
>> > > > > yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP
>> > > > > computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
>> >
>> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
>> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
>> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
>> > can't connect to the internet.
>>
>> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
>> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
>> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.
>>
>> Ben
>>
> Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it
> cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my
> MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.
> I'll post again with the results

The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
using Ethernet.

See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
cathyj :
http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

[brbrown]

"glee" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A8FEA7B-756F-4B2B-BA5F-FDDF11B3E0AC@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Ben Myers" wrote:
> >
> >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2F1147CB-C137-4ADE-85B3-03EC52C45F20@microsoft.com...
> >> <snip>>
> >> > > > > Hello everyone. I have tried all that you have all suggested to no avail
> >> > > > > and as I have now been working on this all day I have just decided to
> >> > > > > reinstall the whole system. which has been successful although I haven't
> >> > > > > yet managed to connect to the internet. (Iam writing this on my XP
> >> > > > > computer). Many thanks anyway for all your help.
> >> >
> >> > I have just been notified that someone has replied to my last posting but I
> >> > cannot see it. Just to recap, I have done a complete clean restore of W98
> >> > which was successful although I still haven't been able to find out why I
> >> > can't connect to the internet.
> >>
> >> Go to "Control Panel", "Internet Options", click on the "Connections" tab,
> >> then click "Setup". Also, it might be helpful to know what happens when
> >> you try to connect to the Internet, including any error messages.
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> > Hello Ben. Thanks for the reply. I've tried that but a message tells me it
> > cannot find a driver. I am actually searching for a Talktalk driver for my
> > MT882 router on another forum. When I find one, hopefully , it will work.
> > I'll post again with the results
>
> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
> using Ethernet.
>
> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
> cathyj :
> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst using the ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I was able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My problem though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to download the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot now find the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I chose the wrong one. Brian

 

[glee]

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...
>
> "glee" wrote:
>>
>> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
>> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
>> using Ethernet.
>>
>> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
>> cathyj :
>> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>>
>>
>Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst
using the
>ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I
>was
>able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My
>problem
>though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to
>download
>the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot
>now find
>the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely
>looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I
>chose the
>wrong one. Brian

First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and switching
back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that poster's issue
was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set it up
using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.

Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to avoid
driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done with it?
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

[brbrown]

"glee" wrote:

> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >>
> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router. Are you
> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I strongly suggest
> >> using Ethernet.
> >>
> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in posts by
> >> cathyj :
> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
> >>
> >>
> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say though, whilst
> using the
> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem at all and I
> >was
> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching back on. My
> >problem
> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I had to
> >download
> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However I cannot
> >now find
> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying each likely
> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore when I
> >chose the
> >wrong one. Brian
>
> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and switching
> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that poster's issue
> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set it up
> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
>
> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to avoid
> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done with it?
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> My Smartax router only has one ethernet connection which I use for my XP desktop and it has one USB which I leave plugged in to the W98. I considered using an ethernet hub but I couldn't find an ethernet card with a driver that would support W98. My present arrangement is fine though if I can just sort out the driver I had before.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."

2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124

Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two
outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95
drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "glee" wrote:
>
>> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.
>> >> Are you
>> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
>> >> strongly suggest
>> >> using Ethernet.
>> >>
>> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in
>> >> posts by
>> >> cathyj :
>> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
>> though, whilst
>> using the
>> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem
>> >at all and I
>> >was
>> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
>> >back on. My
>> >problem
>> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I
>> >had to
>> >download
>> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However
>> >I cannot
>> >now find
>> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying
>> >each likely
>> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore
>> >when I
>> >chose the
>> >wrong one. Brian
>>
>> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and
>> switching
>> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
>> poster's issue
>> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set
>> it up
>> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
>>
>> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to
>> avoid
>> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
>> with it?
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> http://dts-l.net/
>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>> My Smartax router only has one ethernet connection which I use for my XP
>> desktop and it has one USB which I leave plugged in to the W98. I
>> considered using an ethernet hub but I couldn't find an ethernet card
>> with a driver that would support W98. My present arrangement is fine
>> though if I can just sort out the driver I had before.

 

[brbrown]

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."
>
> 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
> http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124
>
> Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two
> outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95
> drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
> look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> > "glee" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.
> >> >> Are you
> >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
> >> >> strongly suggest
> >> >> using Ethernet.
> >> >>
> >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in
> >> >> posts by
> >> >> cathyj :
> >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
> >> though, whilst
> >> using the
> >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem
> >> >at all and I
> >> >was
> >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
> >> >back on. My
> >> >problem
> >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I
> >> >had to
> >> >download
> >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However
> >> >I cannot
> >> >now find
> >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying
> >> >each likely
> >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore
> >> >when I
> >> >chose the
> >> >wrong one. Brian
> >>
> >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and
> >> switching
> >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
> >> poster's issue
> >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set
> >> it up
> >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
> >>
> >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to
> >> avoid
> >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
> >> with it?
> >> --
> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> >> http://dts-l.net/
> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch
not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of
which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that
perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to an
email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any ethernet
cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router
which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the
purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three
"pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine. Thanks
for the lead.
Brian













>
>

 

[brbrown]

"brbrown" wrote:

>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
> > 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."
> >
> > 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
> > http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
> > http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124
> >
> > Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just two
> > outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even Win95
> > drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
> > look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://grystmill.com
> >
> > "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > "glee" wrote:
> > >
> > >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...
> > >> >
> > >> > "glee" wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a router.
> > >> >> Are you
> > >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
> > >> >> strongly suggest
> > >> >> using Ethernet.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page, in
> > >> >> posts by
> > >> >> cathyj :
> > >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
> > >> though, whilst
> > >> using the
> > >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no problem
> > >> >at all and I
> > >> >was
> > >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
> > >> >back on. My
> > >> >problem
> > >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously I
> > >> >had to
> > >> >download
> > >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only. However
> > >> >I cannot
> > >> >now find
> > >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk trying
> > >> >each likely
> > >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a Restore
> > >> >when I
> > >> >chose the
> > >> >wrong one. Brian
> > >>
> > >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off and
> > >> switching
> > >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
> > >> poster's issue
> > >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to set
> > >> it up
> > >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
> > >>
> > >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying to
> > >> avoid
> > >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
> > >> with it?
> > >> --
> > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> > >> http://dts-l.net/
> > >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch
> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of
> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that
> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to an
> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any ethernet
> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router
> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the
> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three
> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine. Thanks
> for the lead.
> Brian
>
> Garry, assuming I install the D Link adapter, can you recommend a 5 port switch to enable me to network my XP desktop, my Vista laptop and my W98 desktop please? Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Whoever you talked to at Microsoft was FOS. EVERY MS operating system,
including at least the later versions of MS-DOS, can use an ethernet
adapter. It's how they've been networking things since 1980. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet

That's strange that pcconnection links don't work, but that's their loss.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8978B477-FB42-4109-A822-8E31F1A645CA@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> 1. You do NOT want a network "hub", you want a "switch."
>>
>> 2. Here's some ethernet adapters that bit your needs.
>> http://tinyurl.com/6rdx2q (Amazon.com)
>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=59629
>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=4763603
>> http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7089124
>>
>> Took me five minutes to locate and verify those items, and that's just
>> two
>> outlets. If you can't find a PCI Ethernet Adapter with Win98 or even
>> Win95
>> drivers, you just plain aren't looking. But, of course, you really didn't
>> look, did you? You want to do it YOUR way or NO way at all, right?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3FD394EB-6286-42B4-A3C1-501843FD46A3@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "glee" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "brbrown" <brbrown@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:36EC224B-2450-4647-A435-43DB4A1F9B91@microsoft.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > "glee" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The SmartAx MT882 is a modem with router functionality, not a
>> >> >> router.
>> >> >> Are you
>> >> >> trying to use it through its Ethernet port, or through USB? I
>> >> >> strongly suggest
>> >> >> using Ethernet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> See here for some setup instructions, about halfway down the page,
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> posts by
>> >> >> cathyj :
>> >> >> http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=5341&PN=2
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >Thanks for the posting. It makes good, useful reading. I must say
>> >> though, whilst
>> >> using the
>> >> >ethernet connection for my XP and the USB for my W98, I had no
>> >> >problem
>> >> >at all and I
>> >> >was
>> >> >able to switch off and did not have to reset anything after switching
>> >> >back on. My
>> >> >problem
>> >> >though is that the Talktalk CD would not work on my W98 so previously
>> >> >I
>> >> >had to
>> >> >download
>> >> >the CD contents from the internet then extract the driver only.
>> >> >However
>> >> >I cannot
>> >> >now find
>> >> >the driver amongst the rest of the content. I don't wish to risk
>> >> >trying
>> >> >each likely
>> >> >looking item unless I am sure it is the right one. I had to do a
>> >> >Restore
>> >> >when I
>> >> >chose the
>> >> >wrong one. Brian
>> >>
>> >> First of all, I don't know what you are referring to re:switching off
>> >> and
>> >> switching
>> >> back on. I was not referring you to that thread for whatever that
>> >> poster's issue
>> >> was.... I referred you specifically to the reply by cathyj, on how to
>> >> set
>> >> it up
>> >> using the Ethernet port, which requires no special drivers.
>> >>
>> >> Why are you trying to connect it to USB, especially if you are trying
>> >> to
>> >> avoid
>> >> driver issues? Why not just connect via the Ethernet port and be done
>> >> with it?
>> >> --
>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> >> http://dts-l.net/
>> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
> Hello Gary. Thankyou for your forthwright reply. Sorry I did mean a switch
> not a hub. Regarding adapters, I did actually research 10 in all, all of
> which were reputed not to work with W98 only W98SE. I even bought two that
> perported to work with W98 only to find they would not. Even the reply to
> an
> email to Microsoft at the time said that W98 would not support any
> ethernet
> cards. So, I thought my only option was use my USB connection on my router
> which happened to work very well, was quite convenient and saved me the
> purchase of any other equipment. However, I cannot connect to the three
> "pccconnection.com" links you showed but the "tinyurl" one looks fine.
> Thanks
> for the lead.
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>