Re: Day after day, more and more Ubuntu victims reporting random hard freezes

Moshe Goldfarb. · Jul 14, 2008

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:

> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>
> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>
> Linux just works!

What a mess.

How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over in
comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".

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Rick · Jul 14, 2008

Re: Day after day, more and more Ubuntu victims reporting randomhard freezes

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>>
>> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>>
>> Linux just works!
>
> What a mess.
>
> How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".

Why do you care?

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Bill Yanaire · Jul 14, 2008

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
> t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>>>
>>> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>>>
>>> Linux just works!
>>
>> What a mess.
>>
>> How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over in
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".
>
> Why do you care?
>
>
>
> --
> Rick

Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs

Bill Yanaire · Jul 14, 2008

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:23:36 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:BJWdnRVDvohNKObVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
>>> t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>>>>>
>>>>> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux just works!
>>>>
>>>> What a mess.
>>>>
>>>> How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over
>>>> in comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".
>>>
>>> Why do you care?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rick
>>
>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>
> .. your opinion... and you are welcome to it

>
> --
> Rick

Wow. I'm not use to getting a normal response when commenting about Linux.
Usually people call me a fanboy! Which I am not.

The Ghost In The Machine · Jul 14, 2008

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Rick
<none@nomail.com>
wrote
on Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:27:32 -0500
<BJWdnQpDvohZWebVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com>:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:23:36 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:BJWdnRVDvohNKObVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
>>> t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>>>>>
>>>>> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux just works!
>>>>
>>>> What a mess.
>>>>
>>>> How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over
>>>> in comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".
>>>
>>> Why do you care?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rick
>>
>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>
> .. your opinion... and you are welcome to it

>

Especially since he's not exactly being forthcoming as
to identification of said "bunch of crappy programs".
Granted, that might be excusable in certain cases -- does
anyone know what program is run if one pulls down
"System>Preferences>Main Menu" in Gnome? -- but he
could have at least mentioned that, if that's one of his
"crappy programs".

(For the record, my system apparently couldn't find a
needed program for that menu. Bug I'm going to have
to track it down at some point.)

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caver1 · Jul 14, 2008

Re: Day after day, more and more Ubuntu victims reporting randomhard freezes

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:BJWdnRVDvohNKObVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
>> t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>>>> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Linux just works!
>>> What a mess.
>>>
>>> How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over in
>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".
>> Why do you care?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rick
>
> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>
>

But it just works!
caver1

JEDIDIAH · Jul 14, 2008

On 2008-07-14, Bill Yanaire <bill@yanaire.com> wrote:
>
> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:BJWdnRVDvohNKObVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
>> t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>>>>
>>>> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Linux just works!
>>>
>>> What a mess.
>>>
>>> How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over in
>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".
>>
>> Why do you care?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rick
>
> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs

That last "thread of lockups" hadn't been updated in 2 months.

Where's the current "thread of lockups"?

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JEDIDIAH · Jul 14, 2008

On 2008-07-14, caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:BJWdnRVDvohNKObVnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:11:20 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?
>>> t=765510&highlight=freeze&page=28
>>>>> Now up to 28 pages of random freezing discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux just works!
>>>> What a mess.
>>>>
>>>> How can people use this garbage and better yet how can the loons over in
>>>> comp.os.linux.advocacy claim it "just works".
>>> Why do you care?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rick
>>
>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>
>>
>
>
>
> But it just works!

Quite often it does.

My experience with the Hauppage 1212 so far have been much smoother
under Linux than they have been under XP and Vista and I'm not even
sure if the driver has had a "release" as such yet.

Quite often it's not so much the relevant code quality but the "approach".

Put simply, I don't need any "special tools" to sanity check a capture
device. The Unix device scheme allows me to just dump data from the
device and feed it into any movie player. It's an idea that sounds
"hard" but in the end is actually quite "simple".

Simple and easy are orthogonal.

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chrisv · Jul 15, 2008

caver1 wrote:

>Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>
>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>
>But it just works!

It's "perfect" for many situations!

8)

relic · Jul 15, 2008

chrisv wrote:
> caver1 wrote:
>
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>
>>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>
>> But it just works!
>
> It's "perfect" for many situations!
>
> 8)

Drink Coaster?
Birdcage liner?
What?

Rick · Jul 15, 2008

Re: Day after day, more and more Ubuntu victims reporting randomhard freezes

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:21:23 -0700, relic wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>> caver1 wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>>
>>> But it just works!
>>
>> It's "perfect" for many situations!
>>
>> 8)
>
> Drink Coaster?
> Birdcage liner?
> What?

Word processing, database manipulation, spreadsheets, animation
rendering, weather simulation, scanning, ...

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Ben · Jul 15, 2008

Re: Day after day, more and more Ubuntu victims reporting randomhard freezes

Rick wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:21:23 -0700, relic wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>> caver1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>>> But it just works!
>>> It's "perfect" for many situations!
>>>
>>> 8)
>> Drink Coaster?
>> Birdcage liner?
>> What?
>
> Word processing, database manipulation, spreadsheets, animation
> rendering, weather simulation, scanning, ...
>
>
>

Web browsing, Email, IM, IRC, Usenet, multimedia playing, and
increasingly, gaming.

Just a few things I use Linux for myself.

Bill Yanaire · Jul 15, 2008

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:21:23 -0700, relic wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>> caver1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>>>
>>>> But it just works!
>>>
>>> It's "perfect" for many situations!
>>>
>>> 8)
>>
>> Drink Coaster?
>> Birdcage liner?
>> What?
>
> Word processing, database manipulation, spreadsheets, animation
> rendering, weather simulation, scanning, ...
>
>
>
> --
> Rick

You mean Primitive word processing, data manipulation, spreadsheets,
animation rendering, etc.....

If you need to work with others then you need something that WORKS with
other software. That is where Microsoft comes in.

OpenSores software is good for one user on one machine doing just the very
basics.

Glad to clarify that for you.

Ben · Jul 15, 2008

Re: Day after day, more and more Ubuntu victims reporting randomhard freezes

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:tdKdnVgCiYfiiuDVnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@supernews.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:21:23 -0700, relic wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>> caver1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>>>> But it just works!
>>>> It's "perfect" for many situations!
>>>>
>>>> 8)
>>> Drink Coaster?
>>> Birdcage liner?
>>> What?
>> Word processing, database manipulation, spreadsheets, animation
>> rendering, weather simulation, scanning, ...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rick
>
> You mean Primitive word processing, data manipulation, spreadsheets,
> animation rendering, etc.....

Two words: Open Office

>
> If you need to work with others then you need something that WORKS with
> other software. That is where Microsoft comes in.

A lot of software used in Linux for things like office applications are
cross-platform, and have popular Windows editions, and can export or
work directly with formats used in Windows applications like MS office,
as is the case with Open Office and GIMP, etc.

>
> OpenSores software is good for one user on one machine doing just the very
> basics.
>

Linux et al. can do faaar more than the basics these days.

RonB · Jul 15, 2008

Bill Yanaire wrote:

> You mean Primitive word processing, data manipulation, spreadsheets,
> animation rendering, etc.....

Yeah, Pixar, Dreamworks, Disney and Industrial Light and Magic are all
so "primitive."

> If you need to work with others then you need something that WORKS with
> other software. Â That is where Microsoft comes in.

Which version of Word are using there, Bud? Wait a minute, I'll get out Open
Office and translate it for you -- so you two Windows users can talk to
each other.

> OpenSores software is good for one user on one machine doing just the very
> basics.

What a load of crap. Just parrot the FUD, lie like a good little WinTroll.

> Glad to clarify that for you.

How did that lobotomy go, BTW?

--
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"There's a story there...somewhere"

JEDIDIAH · Jul 15, 2008

On 2008-07-15, Bill Yanaire <bill@yanaire.com> wrote:
>
> "Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:tdKdnVgCiYfiiuDVnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@supernews.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:21:23 -0700, relic wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>> caver1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>>>>
>>>>> But it just works!
>>>>
>>>> It's "perfect" for many situations!
>>>>
>>>> 8)
>>>
>>> Drink Coaster?
>>> Birdcage liner?
>>> What?
>>
>> Word processing, database manipulation, spreadsheets, animation
>> rendering, weather simulation, scanning, ...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rick
>
> You mean Primitive word processing, data manipulation, spreadsheets,
> animation rendering, etc.....

...been "interacting" with Windows users for years.

Most of them are oblivious to the fact that you aren't using office.

They are also accustomed to the idea that different versions of
office might not play nice with each other. So if you do manage to have
a hangup of some sort, no one will get their panties in a bunch.

>
> If you need to work with others then you need something that WORKS with
> other software. That is where Microsoft comes in.
>
> OpenSores software is good for one user on one machine doing just the very
> basics.
>
> Glad to clarify that for you.

All you did was repeat a lie.

You added no useful (IOW, falsifiable) details.

You might as well be telling us the sky is green...

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Ùpyøurbuttøø · Jul 15, 2008

"Ben" <beno1990@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Two words: Open Office

Two Words - Beta Software
Yes it is Beta software that Star Office is built upon. That's what I want
is some crappy beta software. Oh wait, that's what Linsux is. crappy Beta
software.

Ùpyøurbuttøø · Jul 15, 2008

"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
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> (For the record, my system apparently couldn't find a
> needed program for that menu. Bug I'm going to have
> to track it down at some point.)
>
Add it to the list

Ùpyøurbuttøø · Jul 15, 2008

"JEDIDIAH" <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
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>
> Where's the current "thread of lockups"?
>
Check Launchpad. You'll find more than you ever imagined

Ùpyøurbuttøø · Jul 15, 2008

"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> caver1 wrote:
>
>>Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>
>>> Nobody cares about Linux or Ubuntu! Just a bunch of crappy programs
>>
>>But it just works!
>
> It's "perfect" for many situations!
>
> 8)
>
Barf

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