4 port usb hub

M

margie

I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because
he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have
enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version
which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows
98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine
and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0
version or what can I do????
looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks
--
margie
 
D

Dan

Windows 98 Second Edition does not natively support USB 2.0x. It needs to be
supported with an add in card.

"margie" wrote:

> I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because
> he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have
> enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version
> which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows
> 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine
> and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0
> version or what can I do????
> looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks
> --
> margie
 
M

margie

Thanks Dan, I dont quite understand. Are you saying a 2.0 version would not
fix the problem??? so what is an add in card??? thanks
--
margie


"Dan" wrote:

> Windows 98 Second Edition does not natively support USB 2.0x. It needs to be
> supported with an add in card.
>
> "margie" wrote:
>
> > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because
> > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have
> > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version
> > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows
> > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine
> > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0
> > version or what can I do????
> > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks
> > --
> > margie
 
M

Mart

Perhaps this *may* be relevant or helpful :-

USB Devices May Not Work in Windows 98 Second Edition
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240075

Good luck

Mart



"margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CD508B49-49CE-42F2-8BE5-979182C2EEB3@microsoft.com...
>I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer
>because
> he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have
> enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version
> which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer
> windows
> 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is
> fine
> and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0
> version or what can I do????
> looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks
> --
> margie
 
I

Ingeborg

=?Utf-8?B?bWFyZ2ll?= wrote:

> I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer
> because he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he
> did not have enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb
> hub 1.1 version which works well. The only problem is that when
> booting the computer windows 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the
> 4 port usb hub and then it is fine and I reconnect it and all is well.
> I was wondering do I need the 2.0 version or what can I do????


Where does the boot procedure stop?
 
D

Dan

Yes, you need to buy a add in card and open the case of your computer. The
add-in card must support USB 2.0x and must support Windows 98 Second Edition.
They are still out there. I bought one in New York City (Manhatten) at a
big electronics store there and it works great for me.

The following is an aside and may be of interest to some people. I grew up
in NYC or the City as New Yorkers call it and love to go and visit on
vacation when my funds allow and my folks still have a rental there and keep
a small spot in the back that they can stay when they check up on the
property. I usually stay with my friend Brian who now lives in Con.

"margie" wrote:

> Thanks Dan, I dont quite understand. Are you saying a 2.0 version would not
> fix the problem??? so what is an add in card??? thanks
> --
> margie
>
>
> "Dan" wrote:
>
> > Windows 98 Second Edition does not natively support USB 2.0x. It needs to be
> > supported with an add in card.
> >
> > "margie" wrote:
> >
> > > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because
> > > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have
> > > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version
> > > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows
> > > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine
> > > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0
> > > version or what can I do????
> > > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks
> > > --
> > > margie
 
D

dlsayremn

Margie, agree with Ingeborg. Need more information about what is happening at
bootup. The machine is probably still looking for a PS2 connected ketyboard
at startup.
I am presently running a 98SE with a USB keyboard and USB Intellimouse
hooked into a 4 port usb hub with no problems.
This may work. Go into Devices after a successful boot and remove all the
keyboard drivers and let the machine redetect the keyboard. If you get a
message about not finding any .dll files they are usually located in
C:\windows\system\drivers or C\windows\system32\drivers

Let us know if that works. There are a few more things to try.

"margie" wrote:

> I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because
> he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have
> enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version
> which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows
> 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine
> and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0
> version or what can I do????
> looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks
> --
> margie
 
M

margie

Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. The
computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP
Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the problem
started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb sockets,
I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. His
son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this one
is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many thanks.
--
margie


"dlsayremn" wrote:

> Margie, agree with Ingeborg. Need more information about what is happening at
> bootup. The machine is probably still looking for a PS2 connected ketyboard
> at startup.
> I am presently running a 98SE with a USB keyboard and USB Intellimouse
> hooked into a 4 port usb hub with no problems.
> This may work. Go into Devices after a successful boot and remove all the
> keyboard drivers and let the machine redetect the keyboard. If you get a
> message about not finding any .dll files they are usually located in
> C:\windows\system\drivers or C\windows\system32\drivers
>
> Let us know if that works. There are a few more things to try.
>
> "margie" wrote:
>
> > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because
> > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have
> > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version
> > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows
> > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine
> > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0
> > version or what can I do????
> > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks
> > --
> > margie
 
J

Jeff Richards

If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things around
so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else
goes through the hub.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com...
> Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. The
> computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP
> Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the
> problem
> started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb
> sockets,
> I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. His
> son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this
> one
> is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many thanks.
> --
> margie
>
 
M

margie

Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do that
and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options. thanks.
--
margie


"Jeff Richards" wrote:

> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things around
> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else
> goes through the hub.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com...
> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. The
> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP
> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the
> > problem
> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb
> > sockets,
> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. His
> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this
> > one
> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many thanks.
> > --
> > margie
> >

>
>
>
 
C

CdLSRN

I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se
machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the
device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I
turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0
and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else.
My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't
recognized then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light
and all was fine.


"margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do
> that
> and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options.
> thanks.
> --
> margie
>
>
> "Jeff Richards" wrote:
>
>> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things
>> around
>> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else
>> goes through the hub.
>> --
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com...
>> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help.
>> > The
>> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP
>> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the
>> > problem
>> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb
>> > sockets,
>> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there.
>> > His
>> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this
>> > one
>> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many
>> > thanks.
>> > --
>> > margie
>> >

>>
>>
>>
 
M

margie

Thanks CdLSRN that is what he is doing now and this is what he may have to
continue doing. I appreciate your advice.
--
margie


"CdLSRN" wrote:

> I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se
> machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the
> device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I
> turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0
> and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else.
> My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't
> recognized then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light
> and all was fine.
>
>
> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do
> > that
> > and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options.
> > thanks.
> > --
> > margie
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Richards" wrote:
> >
> >> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things
> >> around
> >> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else
> >> goes through the hub.
> >> --
> >> Jeff Richards
> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> >> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com...
> >> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help.
> >> > The
> >> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP
> >> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the
> >> > problem
> >> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb
> >> > sockets,
> >> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there.
> >> > His
> >> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this
> >> > one
> >> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many
> >> > thanks.
> >> > --
> >> > margie
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
 
D

Dan

This site might help you with a few of your questions regarding your
computer, margie.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documentIndex?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=60488&lang=en&

"margie" wrote:

> Thanks CdLSRN that is what he is doing now and this is what he may have to
> continue doing. I appreciate your advice.
> --
> margie
>
>
> "CdLSRN" wrote:
>
> > I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se
> > machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the
> > device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I
> > turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0
> > and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else.
> > My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't
> > recognized then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light
> > and all was fine.
> >
> >
> > "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do
> > > that
> > > and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options.
> > > thanks.
> > > --
> > > margie
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jeff Richards" wrote:
> > >
> > >> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things
> > >> around
> > >> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else
> > >> goes through the hub.
> > >> --
> > >> Jeff Richards
> > >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> > >> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help.
> > >> > The
> > >> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP
> > >> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the
> > >> > problem
> > >> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb
> > >> > sockets,
> > >> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there.
> > >> > His
> > >> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this
> > >> > one
> > >> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many
> > >> > thanks.
> > >> > --
> > >> > margie
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

> >
> >
 
M

margie

thanks Dan I will have a look. Havent been able to look at his computer yet
but hope to get over there soon.
--
margie


"Dan" wrote:

> This site might help you with a few of your questions regarding your
> computer, margie.
>
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documentIndex?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=60488&lang=en&
>
> "margie" wrote:
>
> > Thanks CdLSRN that is what he is doing now and this is what he may have to
> > continue doing. I appreciate your advice.
> > --
> > margie
> >
> >
> > "CdLSRN" wrote:
> >
> > > I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se
> > > machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the
> > > device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I
> > > turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0
> > > and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else.
> > > My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't
> > > recognized then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light
> > > and all was fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com...
> > > > Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do
> > > > that
> > > > and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options.
> > > > thanks.
> > > > --
> > > > margie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things
> > > >> around
> > > >> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else
> > > >> goes through the hub.
> > > >> --
> > > >> Jeff Richards
> > > >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> > > >> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com...
> > > >> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help.
> > > >> > The
> > > >> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP
> > > >> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the
> > > >> > problem
> > > >> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb
> > > >> > sockets,
> > > >> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there.
> > > >> > His
> > > >> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this
> > > >> > one
> > > >> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many
> > > >> > thanks.
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > margie
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
 

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