Windows 2003 R2 - Missing Disk Space on System drive

Z

zinger-uk

Hi,

We have a problem on one of our Domain Controllers which is running windows
2003 R2 server (SP2)

The server almost ran out of disk space I have managed to free up enough
disk space to give us some breathing room, but the MAJOR problem we have is
Windows Explorer is reporting that there is only 602MB free on the 8GB System
(C) drive.

But if you run chkdsk it reports that 4314608 KB is available (i.e. 4GB of
space)

Does anyone know how we can get the windows to recognise that we have 4GB of
free space and not 602MB

If we do a dir /a /s it reports that 4,029,885,992 bytes are used and that
631,287,808 bytes are free

The drive is formatted with NTFS

Disk Management shows that Capacity is 7.91GB & Free Space is 3.87GB

So we are baffled as to why windows is saying we only have 602MB of free
disk space

I have already run a chkdsk /f and rebooted the server which made no
difference, and I have defragged the C drive several times which also made no
difference.
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

"zinger-uk" <zinger-uk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:54C5AB53-0586-4470-B8C6-A8A2C044EF15@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> We have a problem on one of our Domain Controllers which is running
> windows
> 2003 R2 server (SP2)
>
> The server almost ran out of disk space I have managed to free up enough
> disk space to give us some breathing room, but the MAJOR problem we have
> is
> Windows Explorer is reporting that there is only 602MB free on the 8GB
> System
> (C) drive.
>
> But if you run chkdsk it reports that 4314608 KB is available (i.e. 4GB of
> space)
>
> Does anyone know how we can get the windows to recognise that we have 4GB
> of
> free space and not 602MB
>
> If we do a dir /a /s it reports that 4,029,885,992 bytes are used and that
> 631,287,808 bytes are free
>
> The drive is formatted with NTFS
>
> Disk Management shows that Capacity is 7.91GB & Free Space is 3.87GB
>
> So we are baffled as to why windows is saying we only have 602MB of free
> disk space
>
> I have already run a chkdsk /f and rebooted the server which made no
> difference, and I have defragged the C drive several times which also made
> no
> difference.
>


Defragging will never free up disk space. It will only make your existing
files contiguous. Use one of the following tools to find out what's eating
up your disk space:
DriveUse:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html
Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/

A general remark: 8 GBytes is very, very tight for a server system
partition. Even after you free up some space, you will keep on running
into problems. Your best strategy would be to buy a larger disk (they
cost very little these days!) and make your system partition 20 or 25
GBytes.
 
Z

zinger-uk

Thanks for the reply, But the problem we have is not that the fiiles on the
server are taking up 8GB of disk space its that windows thinks it only has a
4GB disk in some places, and in other places it shows it is a 8GB drive

I've already run folderszie againt the server and it reports that
4,0,29,885,992 bytes are in use out of the 8GB which should mean we have 4GB
free, but windows is saying we only have 602 MB free.

Although we have an 8GB drive the OS is treating it as though it is a 4GB
drive, even though disk manger and chkdsk report it as being an 8GB drive



"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "zinger-uk" <zinger-uk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:54C5AB53-0586-4470-B8C6-A8A2C044EF15@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have a problem on one of our Domain Controllers which is running
> > windows
> > 2003 R2 server (SP2)
> >
> > The server almost ran out of disk space I have managed to free up enough
> > disk space to give us some breathing room, but the MAJOR problem we have
> > is
> > Windows Explorer is reporting that there is only 602MB free on the 8GB
> > System
> > (C) drive.
> >
> > But if you run chkdsk it reports that 4314608 KB is available (i.e. 4GB of
> > space)
> >
> > Does anyone know how we can get the windows to recognise that we have 4GB
> > of
> > free space and not 602MB
> >
> > If we do a dir /a /s it reports that 4,029,885,992 bytes are used and that
> > 631,287,808 bytes are free
> >
> > The drive is formatted with NTFS
> >
> > Disk Management shows that Capacity is 7.91GB & Free Space is 3.87GB
> >
> > So we are baffled as to why windows is saying we only have 602MB of free
> > disk space
> >
> > I have already run a chkdsk /f and rebooted the server which made no
> > difference, and I have defragged the C drive several times which also made
> > no
> > difference.
> >

>
> Defragging will never free up disk space. It will only make your existing
> files contiguous. Use one of the following tools to find out what's eating
> up your disk space:
> DriveUse:
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html
> Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/
>
> A general remark: 8 GBytes is very, very tight for a server system
> partition. Even after you free up some space, you will keep on running
> into problems. Your best strategy would be to buy a larger disk (they
> cost very little these days!) and make your system partition 20 or 25
> GBytes.
>
>
>
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Let's have a look at the output from these commands:

fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c: > c:\test.txt
dir c:\ >> c:\test.txt
chkdsk c: >> c:\test.txt


"zinger-uk" <zingeruk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4C347D89-34B5-4D55-8730-9E84E38A162C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the reply, But the problem we have is not that the fiiles on
> the
> server are taking up 8GB of disk space its that windows thinks it only has
> a
> 4GB disk in some places, and in other places it shows it is a 8GB drive
>
> I've already run folderszie againt the server and it reports that
> 4,0,29,885,992 bytes are in use out of the 8GB which should mean we have
> 4GB
> free, but windows is saying we only have 602 MB free.
>
> Although we have an 8GB drive the OS is treating it as though it is a 4GB
> drive, even though disk manger and chkdsk report it as being an 8GB drive
>
>
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
>>
>> "zinger-uk" <zinger-uk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:54C5AB53-0586-4470-B8C6-A8A2C044EF15@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We have a problem on one of our Domain Controllers which is running
>> > windows
>> > 2003 R2 server (SP2)
>> >
>> > The server almost ran out of disk space I have managed to free up
>> > enough
>> > disk space to give us some breathing room, but the MAJOR problem we
>> > have
>> > is
>> > Windows Explorer is reporting that there is only 602MB free on the 8GB
>> > System
>> > (C) drive.
>> >
>> > But if you run chkdsk it reports that 4314608 KB is available (i.e. 4GB
>> > of
>> > space)
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how we can get the windows to recognise that we have
>> > 4GB
>> > of
>> > free space and not 602MB
>> >
>> > If we do a dir /a /s it reports that 4,029,885,992 bytes are used and
>> > that
>> > 631,287,808 bytes are free
>> >
>> > The drive is formatted with NTFS
>> >
>> > Disk Management shows that Capacity is 7.91GB & Free Space is 3.87GB
>> >
>> > So we are baffled as to why windows is saying we only have 602MB of
>> > free
>> > disk space
>> >
>> > I have already run a chkdsk /f and rebooted the server which made no
>> > difference, and I have defragged the C drive several times which also
>> > made
>> > no
>> > difference.
>> >

>>
>> Defragging will never free up disk space. It will only make your existing
>> files contiguous. Use one of the following tools to find out what's
>> eating
>> up your disk space:
>> DriveUse:
>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html
>> Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/
>>
>> A general remark: 8 GBytes is very, very tight for a server system
>> partition. Even after you free up some space, you will keep on running
>> into problems. Your best strategy would be to buy a larger disk (they
>> cost very little these days!) and make your system partition 20 or 25
>> GBytes.
>>
>>
>>
 
Z

zinger-uk

Part 1 of chkdsk output

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

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8392540 KB total disk space.
3496564 KB in 18935 files.
6108 KB in 2718 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
575380 KB in use by the system.
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NTFS Volume Serial Number : 0x41f340b2588da11d
Version : 3.1
Number Sectors : 0x0000000001001eb8
Total Clusters : 0x00000000002003d7
Free Clusters : 0x000000000010755f
Total Reserved : 0x00000000000e1b70
Bytes Per Sector : 512
Bytes Per Cluster : 4096
Bytes Per FileRecord Segment : 1024
Clusters Per FileRecord Segment : 0
Mft Valid Data Length : 0x00000000017fc000
Mft Start Lcn : 0x0000000000000002
Mft2 Start Lcn : 0x0000000000000030
Mft Zone Start : 0x0000000000059940
Mft Zone End : 0x0000000000082cc0
Volume in drive C is System
Volume Serial Number is 588D-A11D

Directory of c:\

24/01/2008 12:19 <DIR> ADFS
23/01/2008 13:02 <DIR> ARtmp
23/01/2008 12:51 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT
23/01/2008 13:22 <DIR> compaq
23/01/2008 12:51 0 CONFIG.SYS
23/01/2008 13:20 <DIR> cpqsystem
18/08/2008 18:00 2,344,043 d-dir.txt
07/06/2008 20:19 <DIR> hp
18/02/2007 01:31 94,720 msizap.exe
20/08/2008 13:23 735 test.txt
18/08/2008 18:04 <DIR> WINDOWS
23/01/2008 12:52 <DIR> wmpub
5 File(s) 2,439,498 bytes
7 Dir(s) 631,169,024 bytes free
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is System.


"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Let's have a look at the output from these commands:
>
> fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c: > c:\test.txt
> dir c:\ >> c:\test.txt
> chkdsk c: >> c:\test.txt
>
>
> "zinger-uk" <zingeruk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4C347D89-34B5-4D55-8730-9E84E38A162C@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for the reply, But the problem we have is not that the fiiles on
> > the
> > server are taking up 8GB of disk space its that windows thinks it only has
> > a
> > 4GB disk in some places, and in other places it shows it is a 8GB drive
> >
> > I've already run folderszie againt the server and it reports that
> > 4,0,29,885,992 bytes are in use out of the 8GB which should mean we have
> > 4GB
> > free, but windows is saying we only have 602 MB free.
> >
> > Although we have an 8GB drive the OS is treating it as though it is a 4GB
> > drive, even though disk manger and chkdsk report it as being an 8GB drive
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "zinger-uk" <zinger-uk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:54C5AB53-0586-4470-B8C6-A8A2C044EF15@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > We have a problem on one of our Domain Controllers which is running
> >> > windows
> >> > 2003 R2 server (SP2)
> >> >
> >> > The server almost ran out of disk space I have managed to free up
> >> > enough
> >> > disk space to give us some breathing room, but the MAJOR problem we
> >> > have
> >> > is
> >> > Windows Explorer is reporting that there is only 602MB free on the 8GB
> >> > System
> >> > (C) drive.
> >> >
> >> > But if you run chkdsk it reports that 4314608 KB is available (i.e. 4GB
> >> > of
> >> > space)
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know how we can get the windows to recognise that we have
> >> > 4GB
> >> > of
> >> > free space and not 602MB
> >> >
> >> > If we do a dir /a /s it reports that 4,029,885,992 bytes are used and
> >> > that
> >> > 631,287,808 bytes are free
> >> >
> >> > The drive is formatted with NTFS
> >> >
> >> > Disk Management shows that Capacity is 7.91GB & Free Space is 3.87GB
> >> >
> >> > So we are baffled as to why windows is saying we only have 602MB of
> >> > free
> >> > disk space
> >> >
> >> > I have already run a chkdsk /f and rebooted the server which made no
> >> > difference, and I have defragged the C drive several times which also
> >> > made
> >> > no
> >> > difference.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Defragging will never free up disk space. It will only make your existing
> >> files contiguous. Use one of the following tools to find out what's
> >> eating
> >> up your disk space:
> >> DriveUse:
> >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html
> >> Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/
> >>
> >> A general remark: 8 GBytes is very, very tight for a server system
> >> partition. Even after you free up some space, you will keep on running
> >> into problems. Your best strategy would be to buy a larger disk (they
> >> cost very little these days!) and make your system partition 20 or 25
> >> GBytes.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

"zinger-uk" <zingeruk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> NTFS Volume Serial Number : 0x41f340b2588da11d
> Version : 3.1
> Number Sectors : 0x0000000001001eb8
> Total Clusters : 0x00000000002003d7
> Free Clusters : 0x000000000010755f
> Total Reserved : 0x00000000000e1b70
> Bytes Per Sector : 512
> Bytes Per Cluster : 4096
> Bytes Per FileRecord Segment : 1024
> Clusters Per FileRecord Segment : 0


Chkdsk.exe and fsutil.exe both report the same numbers:
You have an 8.3 GByte disk and about 4.3 GBytes free.
The "dir" command reports that you have about 630 MBytes
free. The only explanation I have is that you have disk quotas
enabled on your system drive.
 
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zinger-uk

Hi,

I've checked that and the status of disk quotas is disabled for drive C

I did try enabling it and then disabling it just now - and that has made no
difference

quite an anoying issue this - after extensive surfing for answers - I've
only come up with a couple of other users with the same issue and no answers


"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "zinger-uk" <zingeruk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3BF557F5-9000-4959-A96A-034955239E3C@microsoft.com...
> > NTFS Volume Serial Number : 0x41f340b2588da11d
> > Version : 3.1
> > Number Sectors : 0x0000000001001eb8
> > Total Clusters : 0x00000000002003d7
> > Free Clusters : 0x000000000010755f
> > Total Reserved : 0x00000000000e1b70
> > Bytes Per Sector : 512
> > Bytes Per Cluster : 4096
> > Bytes Per FileRecord Segment : 1024
> > Clusters Per FileRecord Segment : 0

>
> Chkdsk.exe and fsutil.exe both report the same numbers:
> You have an 8.3 GByte disk and about 4.3 GBytes free.
> The "dir" command reports that you have about 630 MBytes
> free. The only explanation I have is that you have disk quotas
> enabled on your system drive.
>
>
>
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

It still sounds like a quota issue. I would get someone else to
have a careful look at the whole thing.


"zinger-uk" <zingeruk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46F79103-8DCC-4F0A-BAEE-1331E10524CD@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I've checked that and the status of disk quotas is disabled for drive C
>
> I did try enabling it and then disabling it just now - and that has made
> no
> difference
>
> quite an anoying issue this - after extensive surfing for answers - I've
> only come up with a couple of other users with the same issue and no
> answers
>
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
>>
>> "zinger-uk" <zingeruk@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3BF557F5-9000-4959-A96A-034955239E3C@microsoft.com...
>> > NTFS Volume Serial Number : 0x41f340b2588da11d
>> > Version : 3.1
>> > Number Sectors : 0x0000000001001eb8
>> > Total Clusters : 0x00000000002003d7
>> > Free Clusters : 0x000000000010755f
>> > Total Reserved : 0x00000000000e1b70
>> > Bytes Per Sector : 512
>> > Bytes Per Cluster : 4096
>> > Bytes Per FileRecord Segment : 1024
>> > Clusters Per FileRecord Segment : 0

>>
>> Chkdsk.exe and fsutil.exe both report the same numbers:
>> You have an 8.3 GByte disk and about 4.3 GBytes free.
>> The "dir" command reports that you have about 630 MBytes
>> free. The only explanation I have is that you have disk quotas
>> enabled on your system drive.
>>
>>
>>
 
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Christopher Plizga

missing disk space

Did anyone found a solution yet ? I am having similar problem on Server 2003 SP2 - 13GB missing on 36GB disk. TreeSize reports 10GB used yet system itself claims there is only 10GB left on the disk.
 
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borntolive

Hello,

Please check the virtual memory that has been set on your server. You
can check that by following the below mentioned steps:

1) Right click "My Computer".
2) Click "Properties".
3) Click "Advanced".
4) Click "Settings" under "Performance".
5) Click "Advanced.
6) You will find "Total paging file size for all drives" under "Virtual
Memory".
7) You can split it across multiple drives. This way you will free up
the memory taken by your system on C: drive.


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Christopher Plizga

Missing disk space

I found the reason for the missing space on my server. The Trace Logs were configured for continuous recording which resulted in a huge hidden log file being stored on the disk. I deleted the file and everything adds up now.
To see possible log files go to Administrative Tools > Performance and check if any log files are being generated.
 
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