Is this true?

T

Tom Lake

"J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99676BB599D0DJagChan@85.214.62.108...
>
> Is this true?

> I cannot believe it!

Why not? MS openly states that such is the case even if their software
doesn't.

It's been in the works for years and now, with broadband becoming
ubiquitous,
it is technically feasible to do without disrupting your computing. When
dial-up
was the only way to go, you'd certainly be put off by the computer dialing
the phone
all the time to report in but now you don't even notice a few extra blinks
on your
NIC or router. As for me, let them waste their time looking at my data.
They're
boring enough to put researchers to sleep before long!

Tom Lake
 
D

David A. Spicer

What's not to believe? M$ has been doing this for years.
--------------
DOS never says 'EXCELLENT command or filename, Dude!'



"J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99676BB599D0DJagChan@85.214.62.108...
>
> Is this true?
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
> Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>
> I cannot believe it!
 
T

Tim Judd

Tom Lake wrote:
> "J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99676BB599D0DJagChan@85.214.62.108...
>>
>> Is this true?
>
>> I cannot believe it!
>
> Why not? MS openly states that such is the case even if their software
> doesn't.
>
> It's been in the works for years and now, with broadband becoming
> ubiquitous,
> it is technically feasible to do without disrupting your computing.
> When dial-up
> was the only way to go, you'd certainly be put off by the computer
> dialing the phone
> all the time to report in but now you don't even notice a few extra
> blinks on your
> NIC or router. As for me, let them waste their time looking at my data.
> They're
> boring enough to put researchers to sleep before long!

But they're not coming through it individually.. I'm sure there's some
automated program/process out there that's parsing the data and filling
a database. Red flags will be emailed to <whoever> and then the
corresponding action will be taken. Such as the companies that (used
to) redistribute Windows XP Pro (Corporate Ed) with the same product key
to save their customers $100. Then the customers couldn't update or
some other problem and they all had to hound the company that "sold them
a license".. bah.

Of the 85-90% of the computers that run windows (which I'm sure have
dropped because of the issues that Vista have been documented here even
on this NG), not anybody on a 80-hour work week can keep up with it.
Every reboot resends the data (yes?).

It can't be a person doing the data itself... gotta be a process that
populates a database... and the red flags are then checked out by humans.

>
> Tom Lake
>
>
>
>
 
M

Mick Murphy

Who cares? If you have nothing to hide, what is the prob?
What a boring job for someone, lol.

"David A. Spicer" wrote:

> What's not to believe? M$ has been doing this for years.
> --------------
> DOS never says 'EXCELLENT command or filename, Dude!'
>
>
>
> "J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99676BB599D0DJagChan@85.214.62.108...
> >
> > Is this true?
> >
> > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
> > Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
> >
> > I cannot believe it!
>
 
D

David A. Spicer

We're talking about a software giant, and you think "someone" is tracking
this data? LOL
--------------
All hope abandon, ye who enter here.



"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BDABF498-1F80-41B7-869C-BEBB559F6971@microsoft.com...
> Who cares? If you have nothing to hide, what is the prob?
> What a boring job for someone, lol.
>
> "David A. Spicer" wrote:
>
>> What's not to believe? M$ has been doing this for years.
>> --------------
>> DOS never says 'EXCELLENT command or filename, Dude!'
>>
>>
>>
>> "J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns99676BB599D0DJagChan@85.214.62.108...
>> >
>> > Is this true?
>> >
>> > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
>> > Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>> >
>> > I cannot believe it!
>>
 
C

caver1

Mick Murphy wrote:
> Who cares? If you have nothing to hide, what is the prob?
> What a boring job for someone, lol.


I think the same thing was said about the FBI in the 60's.



> "David A. Spicer" wrote:
>
>> What's not to believe? M$ has been doing this for years.
>> --------------
>> DOS never says 'EXCELLENT command or filename, Dude!'
>>
>>
>>
>> "J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns99676BB599D0DJagChan@85.214.62.108...
>>> Is this true?
>>>
>>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
>>> Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>>>
>>> I cannot believe it!
 
M

Mark

It's legalized invasion of privacy. (Most software vendors do this.)
You signed the EULA by installing the software (legal copy or pirated) which
clearly states:

As described below, using the software also operates as your consent to the
transmission of certain computer information during activation, validation
and for Internet-based services.

If you comply with these license terms, you have the rights below for each
license you acquire.

Paragraph 4. Mandatory Activation
If the device is connected to the Internet, the software may
automatically connect to Microsoft for activation.
Paragraph 5 Validation
a. The software will from time to time validate the software,
update or require download of the validation feature of the software.
b. During a validation check, the software will send information
about the software and the device to Microsoft. This information includes
the version and product key of the software, and the Internet protocol
address of the device. Microsoft does not use the information to identify
or contact you. By using the software, you consent to the transmission of
this information.
Paragraph 7 Internet-based Services (Note: Activation and Windows
Update fit here also.)
b. Use of Information. Microsoft may use the computer
information, error reports, and Malware reports to improve our software and
services. We may also share it with others, such as hardware and software
vendors. They may use the information to improve how their products run
with Microsoft software.

1. You don't own your software, but you may use it.
2. The real owner can keep tabs on the product.
3. A database will be maintained, but it will be kept "anonymous" and
unable to identify individuals.
If it was actually anonymous, then you could never be
deactivated..



"J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99676BB599D0DJagChan@85.214.62.108...
>
> Is this true?
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
> Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>
> I cannot believe it!
 
X

XS11E

Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:

> J & C wrote:
>> Is this true?
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vis
>> ta-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>>
>> I cannot believe it!
>
> Hope you're not using google...cause they're even worse as they
> sell your personal information.

You can easily protect yourself:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/



--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
 
C

CB

Everything you do on your computer is monitored by some application. If you
don't want to have this information sent to anyone you must configure your
firewall to prevent it. If your firewall is incapable of doing this I would
suggest you get another firewall application.

For information on how to configure your firewall to block outbound traffic
please consult a genuine Microsoft MVP. I am not a MVP so I am not qualified
to answer your questions.

Have a nice day.

C.B.
 
K

Kayman

"Kayman" <kayhkay~nospam~@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eWMieubwHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "CB" <CB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B7B559AC-42A6-41CF-AB31-46D80A101CBB@microsoft.com...
>>
>> For information on how to configure your firewall to block outbound
>> traffic...
>>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Oops, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357 refers to WinXP SP2, sorry
about that:)

Try here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/securitycenter.mspx
 
J

J & C

Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in news:#eKPqxWwHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> J & C wrote:
>> Is this true?
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
>> Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>>
>> I cannot believe it!
>
> Hope you're not using google...cause they're even worse as they sell
> your personal information.
> Frank
>

No I don't.
I use Scroogle for my search:
http://scroogle.org/
Regards.
 
J

J & C

XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9967591046DB7xs11eyahoocom@
127.0.0.1:

> Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>
>> J & C wrote:
>>> Is this true?
>>>
>>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vis
>>> ta-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>>>
>>> I cannot believe it!
>>
>> Hope you're not using google...cause they're even worse as they
>> sell your personal information.
>
> You can easily protect yourself:
>
> http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
>
>
>

I hope you are not serious.
 
M

MICHAEL

* Frank:
> J & C wrote:
>> Is this true?
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
>> Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>>
>> I cannot believe it!
>
> Hope you're not using google...cause they're even worse as they sell
> your personal information.
> Frank

http://blackboxsearch.com/

Better yet, you can add blackboxsearch as your
default search in IE7. Go to the link below and
look for "Create Your Own".

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/searchguide/en-en/default.mspx?dcsref


-Michael
 
X

XS11E

"J & C" <rup@example.com> wrote:

> XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9967591046DB7xs11eyahoocom@ 127.0.0.1:
>
>> Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>>
>>> J & C wrote:
>>>> Is this true?
>>>>
>>>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-V
>>>> is
>>>> ta-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.s
>>>> html
>>>>
>>>> I cannot believe it!
>>>
>>> Hope you're not using google...cause they're even worse as they
>>> sell your personal information.
>>
>> You can easily protect yourself:
>>
>> http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
>
> I hope you are not serious.

Every bit as serious as those who believe Google, Microsoft, Men in
Black, etc. are watching them.



--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
 
T

The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy

Frank wrote:
> J & C wrote:
>> Is this true?
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-
>> Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml
>>
>> I cannot believe it!
>
> Hope you're not using google...cause they're even worse as they sell
> your personal information.
> Frank

Use Clusty.com instead. Privacy ensured cluster search engine.

--
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http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"They hacked the Microsoft website to make it think a linux box was a
windows box. Thats called hacking. People who do hacking are called
hackers."

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- T. S. Eliot
 
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