Guest Rudy3343 Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 hey ppl, can anyone shed some light on why these security update are not installing. Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366). and (.Net Framework 2.0) all failed to install. Can anyone help? i see there alot of other having the same problem I microsoft can hurry and send a fix. -- Thank alot ppl.
Guest TaurArian Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Basically the fix seems to be to uninstall and reinstall the Framework package as somehow the Framework package has become corrupted on the system. How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installation issues http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us824643 How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 installation issues http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908077/ Your can either try repairing the original installation, try installing the original installation over itself or just remove Framework 1.1 and 2.00 and then reinstall the Framework versions and patches. This has worked for a few but as usual, there are no guarantees it will work for you. "Rudy3343" wrote: > hey ppl, can anyone shed some light on why these security update are not > installing. > Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366). and > (.Net Framework 2.0) all failed to install. > Can anyone help? > i see there alot of other having the same problem > I microsoft can hurry and send a fix. > -- > Thank alot ppl.
Guest Alan Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Ahhh, TaurArian, so you now have decided that "somehow the Framework package has become corrupted on the system." Do you still believe it's the result of users' not exercising due diligence regarding maintenance on their system? Alan "TaurArian" <TaurArian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E608B2E9-94DE-4787-8A8A-04C1A7B7C63D@microsoft.com... > Basically the fix seems to be to uninstall and reinstall the Framework > package as somehow the Framework package has become corrupted on the > system. > > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installation issues > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us824643 > > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 installation issues > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908077/ > > Your can either try repairing the original installation, try installing > the > original installation over itself or just remove Framework 1.1 and 2.00 > and > then reinstall the Framework versions and patches. > > This has worked for a few but as usual, there are no guarantees it will > work > for you. > > > "Rudy3343" wrote: > >> hey ppl, can anyone shed some light on why these security update are not >> installing. >> Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366). and >> (.Net Framework 2.0) all failed to install. >> Can anyone help? >> i see there alot of other having the same problem >> I microsoft can hurry and send a fix. >> -- >> Thank alot ppl.
Guest TaurArian Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Alan, why not provide your opinion of what is causing the problem and how to rectify the same. "Alan" wrote: > Ahhh, TaurArian, so you now have decided that "somehow the Framework package > has become corrupted on the system." > > Do you still believe it's the result of users' not exercising due diligence > regarding maintenance on their system? > > Alan > > "TaurArian" <TaurArian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E608B2E9-94DE-4787-8A8A-04C1A7B7C63D@microsoft.com... > > Basically the fix seems to be to uninstall and reinstall the Framework > > package as somehow the Framework package has become corrupted on the > > system. > > > > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installation issues > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us824643 > > > > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 installation issues > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908077/ > > > > Your can either try repairing the original installation, try installing > > the > > original installation over itself or just remove Framework 1.1 and 2.00 > > and > > then reinstall the Framework versions and patches. > > > > This has worked for a few but as usual, there are no guarantees it will > > work > > for you. > > > > > > "Rudy3343" wrote: > > > >> hey ppl, can anyone shed some light on why these security update are not > >> installing. > >> Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366). and > >> (.Net Framework 2.0) all failed to install. > >> Can anyone help? > >> i see there alot of other having the same problem > >> I microsoft can hurry and send a fix. > >> -- > >> Thank alot ppl. > > >
Guest Alan Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 TaurArian, my opinion is that Microsoft has -- as you Aussies like to say -- stuffed up big-time, and it's not for the first time with its updates. Moreover, I think the rectification should not be placed on the shoulders of Microsoft's hapless users. But, rather than Microsoft's admitting that it could possibly make (okay, has made) a mistake, it just stonewalls. It's quite similar to the standard line that MSFT likes to use in many of its KB articles: "This (bug) is by design." Right..... I have some personal experience with this tactic, as I was in Microsoft's Product Support Services at one of its out-sourced call centers in the USA in the mid-90's. I know all too well how the game is played, and what we techs were explicitly told to say to the customers who called in for support We were not told to lie, exactly. It was more what we were NOT allowed to say about a situation that was a BIG problem and one that Microsoft had no idea how to correct at that moment -- if ever. Microsoft has the money and, presumably, the expertise to write software that helps people enjoy their computers, not to have them scurrying around like rats in a Skinner box trying to fix problems that are iatrogenically introduced most patch Tuesdays. My question is: Why doesn't Microsoft take the high road for a change? Alan "TaurArian" <TaurArian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:59FE3B4B-6C92-4ABE-A1FE-A24FB4ADAE10@microsoft.com... > Alan, why not provide your opinion of what is causing the problem and how > to > rectify the same. > > "Alan" wrote: > >> Ahhh, TaurArian, so you now have decided that "somehow the Framework >> package >> has become corrupted on the system." >> >> Do you still believe it's the result of users' not exercising due >> diligence >> regarding maintenance on their system? >> >> Alan >> >> "TaurArian" <TaurArian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:E608B2E9-94DE-4787-8A8A-04C1A7B7C63D@microsoft.com... >> > Basically the fix seems to be to uninstall and reinstall the Framework >> > package as somehow the Framework package has become corrupted on the >> > system. >> > >> > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installation issues >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us824643 >> > >> > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 installation issues >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908077/ >> > >> > Your can either try repairing the original installation, try installing >> > the >> > original installation over itself or just remove Framework 1.1 and 2.00 >> > and >> > then reinstall the Framework versions and patches. >> > >> > This has worked for a few but as usual, there are no guarantees it will >> > work >> > for you. >> > >> > >> > "Rudy3343" wrote: >> > >> >> hey ppl, can anyone shed some light on why these security update are >> >> not >> >> installing. >> >> Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366). and >> >> (.Net Framework 2.0) all failed to install. >> >> Can anyone help? >> >> i see there alot of other having the same problem >> >> I microsoft can hurry and send a fix. >> >> -- >> >> Thank alot ppl. >> >> >>
Guest TaurArian Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Alan, I agree that there should be something in the update process to advise users if there is a problem with the installation that is to be patched etc. I understand the frustration that the users are experiencing having been there myself on several occasions and left to my own devices. This is not only with MS stuff but with other programs I have installed and patched etc. In answer to your question Alan - "Why doesn't Microsoft take the high road for a change?" I don't know, they dont communicate with me either. I did note that when I was installing the updates last night that my anti virus software kept popping up asking me to allow changes etc and Win Patrol popped also wanting permission to allow etc. I forgot to turn them off. Perhaps this is one of the problems where maybe the antivirus program is not alerting users that it's stopping the process. What appears to be working at the moment, is the uninstall and reinstalling of the Framework version in question. "Alan" wrote: > TaurArian, my opinion is that Microsoft has -- as you Aussies like to say -- > stuffed up big-time, and it's not for the first time with its updates. > Moreover, I think the rectification should not be placed on the shoulders of > Microsoft's hapless users. > > But, rather than Microsoft's admitting that it could possibly make (okay, > has made) a mistake, it just stonewalls. It's quite similar to the standard > line that MSFT likes to use in many of its KB articles: "This (bug) is by > design." Right..... > > I have some personal experience with this tactic, as I was in Microsoft's > Product Support Services at one of its out-sourced call centers in the USA > in the mid-90's. I know all too well how the game is played, and what we > techs were explicitly told to say to the customers who called in for support > > We were not told to lie, exactly. It was more what we were NOT allowed to > say about a situation that was a BIG problem and one that Microsoft had no > idea how to correct at that moment -- if ever. > > Microsoft has the money and, presumably, the expertise to write software > that helps people enjoy their computers, not to have them scurrying around > like rats in a Skinner box trying to fix problems that are iatrogenically > introduced most patch Tuesdays. > > My question is: Why doesn't Microsoft take the high road for a change? > > Alan > > "TaurArian" <TaurArian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:59FE3B4B-6C92-4ABE-A1FE-A24FB4ADAE10@microsoft.com... > > Alan, why not provide your opinion of what is causing the problem and how > > to > > rectify the same. > > > > "Alan" wrote: > > > >> Ahhh, TaurArian, so you now have decided that "somehow the Framework > >> package > >> has become corrupted on the system." > >> > >> Do you still believe it's the result of users' not exercising due > >> diligence > >> regarding maintenance on their system? > >> > >> Alan > >> > >> "TaurArian" <TaurArian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:E608B2E9-94DE-4787-8A8A-04C1A7B7C63D@microsoft.com... > >> > Basically the fix seems to be to uninstall and reinstall the Framework > >> > package as somehow the Framework package has become corrupted on the > >> > system. > >> > > >> > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installation issues > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us824643 > >> > > >> > How to troubleshoot Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 installation issues > >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908077/ > >> > > >> > Your can either try repairing the original installation, try installing > >> > the > >> > original installation over itself or just remove Framework 1.1 and 2.00 > >> > and > >> > then reinstall the Framework versions and patches. > >> > > >> > This has worked for a few but as usual, there are no guarantees it will > >> > work > >> > for you. > >> > > >> > > >> > "Rudy3343" wrote: > >> > > >> >> hey ppl, can anyone shed some light on why these security update are > >> >> not > >> >> installing. > >> >> Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366). and > >> >> (.Net Framework 2.0) all failed to install. > >> >> Can anyone help? > >> >> i see there alot of other having the same problem > >> >> I microsoft can hurry and send a fix. > >> >> -- > >> >> Thank alot ppl. > >> > >> > >> > > >
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