Guest Sharon Franks Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista That's done all the time with every big company. Say for example you are writing a program for MS, you will needs access to their files say for testing. There are numerous reasons why this is done. -- Sharon Franks MCC group Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer (MCSD) Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT). "Leonard Grey" <Leonard@Grey.invalid> wrote in message news:uKnb%23cTDIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's network." > > Apologies for sticking my nose in, but why would a vendor have an account > on Microsoft's network? > > --- > Leonard Grey > Errare humanum est > > PA Bear wrote: >> No, because it leads newsgroup readers to assume he represents/works >> directly for MS Product Support Services. >> >> Sharon Franks wrote: >>> Why because it looks more impressive than yours? >>> >>> >>> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23kZxBUSDIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Paul Adare wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS >>>>>> PSS >>>>>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS >>>>>> MVP >>>>>> who >>>>>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>>>>> signature. >>>>> >>>>> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >>>>> direct >>>>> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd >>>>> years >>>>> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give >>>>> up >>>>> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >>>>> network. Not even close to being an employee. >>>> >>>> Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to >>>> "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. >>>> -- >>>> ~Robear, working offline >>
Guest Paul Adare Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:48:21 -0400, PA Bear wrote: > Paul Adare wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >> >>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS PSS >>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP >>> who >>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>> signature. >> >> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >> direct >> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd years >> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up >> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >> network. Not even close to being an employee. > > Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to > "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. Why? If he works for MSPSS how in the world is that in any way misleading? -- Paul Adare MVP - Virtual Machines http://www.identit.ca Programming Department: Mistakes made while you wait.
Guest BoaterDave Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista Hello Paul. I've been to your web site (as advertised in your sig. <g>) and noted the following: It seems you are *real* and can (probably) be believed. I'm not too sure that applies to others posting here. I've been told that Sharon Franks is actually PCButts1 for example (purported to be a bad guy) but, for a 'newbie' coming here there really is no way of telling ..... is there? Perhaps you, of all people I've met here, would be able to tell - can you? Dave Paul Adare, the Chief Technology Officer of IdentIT Inc., is a security consultant specializing in Identity Management, Rights Management, and Public Key Infrastructure deployments. Paul has a wide ranging and varied background including the whole gamut of Microsoft technologies, Lotus Notes, Sun Microsystems, IBM AIX, and various flavours of UNIX and Linux. Over the many years that Paul has been involved with computer systems and security, he has held many different roles including technical training (Microsoft Certified Trainer, Lotus Notes Certified Trainer, Sun Microsystems Certified Trainer), consulting (Microsoft, Lotus Notes, Sun, IBM, Security, Identity Management, Rights Management, PKI), subject matter expert for Microsoft Learning Products, support and help desk roles among others. Paul has been involved with Microsoft's Identity Management platform since he worked as a subject matter expert on the Microsoft Learning Product Course 2062, Implementing Microsoft Metadirectory Services. Paul has been the Principal Consultant on a number of enterprise PKI and RMS deployments for large financial services customers in the US and Canada. In addition, Paul is a Microsoft MVP for Virtual PC and Virtual Server. *************************************************** "Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message news:w66mixxk2pyt$.1vcwkalh869hh$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:48:21 -0400, PA Bear wrote: > >> Paul Adare wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >>> >>>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS PSS >>>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP >>>> who >>>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>>> signature. >>> >>> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >>> direct >>> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd >>> years >>> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up >>> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >>> network. Not even close to being an employee. >> >> Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to >> "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. > > Why? If he works for MSPSS how in the world is that in any way misleading? > > -- > Paul Adare > MVP - Virtual Machines > http://www.identit.ca > Programming Department: Mistakes made while you wait. >
Guest BoaterDave Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista What I'd be interested to know, Robear, is why you haven't used your normal signature block in this thread, viz. ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.org/ I'm hopeful that you have a better explanation than that suggested by 'Sharon'. If you and your small group of 'helpers' at 'aumha' are 'good guys', please tell me, and others reading here, exactly why you chose not to advertise same in this/these threads. Thank you. *************************************************** "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23vrpIXTDIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > No, because it leads newsgroup readers to assume he represents/works > directly for MS Product Support Services. > > Sharon Franks wrote: >> Why because it looks more impressive than yours? >> >> >> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23kZxBUSDIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Paul Adare wrote: >>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >>>> >>>>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS >>>>> PSS >>>>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP >>>>> who >>>>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>>>> signature. >>>> >>>> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >>>> direct >>>> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd >>>> years >>>> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up >>>> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >>>> network. Not even close to being an employee. >>> >>> Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to >>> "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. >>> -- >>> ~Robear, working offline > >
Guest Paul Adare Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:29:43 +0100, BoaterDave wrote: > Hello Paul. I've been to your web site (as advertised in your sig. <g>) and > noted the following: It seems you are *real* and can (probably) be believed. > > I'm not too sure that applies to others posting here. I've been told that > Sharon Franks is actually PCButts1 for example (purported to be a bad guy) > but, for a 'newbie' coming here there really is no way of telling ..... is > there? Perhaps you, of all people I've met here, would be able to tell - can > you? On USENET you can never really tell who is "real" and who is not, and that really doesn't matter. You simply need to apply some critical thinking to the posts you read here. After a while you get to realize what constitutes good advice and what constitutes bad advice. There's really not a lot more one can do. -- Paul Adare MVP - Virtual Machines http://www.identit.ca The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard.
Guest BoaterDave Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista A wonderful signature this time around Paul - that's me to a tee as, indeed, was "Compatible: Gracefully accepts erroneous data from any source"! <g> Thank you for your comment. I agree entirely. My biggest concern, though (really on behalf of others who visit these newsgroups) is whether or not one can 'trust' the links posted by 'helpers'. Human nature being what it is, I'm confident that most come here with a 'pressing' problem (to what they perceive as 'Microsoft' sites) via TechNet.and will no doubt click on the multifarious links without a second thought. Few will 'copy and paste' such links into their browser. How easy it would be (wouldn't it?) to obfuscate a link so that it might take someone to a malicious URL. Perhaps things have improved with more recent patches to MS Windows XP and with the introduction of Vista and IE7, but I suspect that many individuals worldwide are still highly vulnerable. I am a little surprised that an operation as successful as Microsoft does not deem it necessary to 'police' its' own USENET groups to ensure that, if any bad links are posted, they are quickly removed. *I* think they should! Dave ***************************************************** "Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1bfhshh6w93zz$.jfmf0ci3s94p$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:29:43 +0100, BoaterDave wrote: > >> Hello Paul. I've been to your web site (as advertised in your sig. <g>) >> and >> noted the following: It seems you are *real* and can (probably) be >> believed. >> >> I'm not too sure that applies to others posting here. I've been told that >> Sharon Franks is actually PCButts1 for example (purported to be a bad >> guy) >> but, for a 'newbie' coming here there really is no way of telling ..... >> is >> there? Perhaps you, of all people I've met here, would be able to tell - >> can >> you? > > On USENET you can never really tell who is "real" and who is not, and that > really doesn't matter. You simply need to apply some critical thinking to > the posts you read here. After a while you get to realize what constitutes > good advice and what constitutes bad advice. There's really not a lot more > one can do. > > -- > Paul Adare > MVP - Virtual Machines > http://www.identit.ca > The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. >
Guest Milo \(MSPSS\) Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista C`mon everyone its just a signature - dont take much of attention to it at the end of the day we just get to help those who is in need of assistance. And also am not misleading anyone as I do work for the 866 PCSafety Security Support group that I always recommend. "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23kZxBUSDIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Paul Adare wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >> >>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS PSS >>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP >>> who >>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>> signature. >> >> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >> direct >> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd >> years >> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up >> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >> network. Not even close to being an employee. > > Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to > "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. > -- > ~Robear, working offline
Guest Paul Adare Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:18:42 +0800, Milo (MSPSS) wrote: > C`mon everyone its just a signature - dont take much of attention to it at > the end of the day we just get to help those who is in need of assistance. > And also am not misleading anyone as I do work for the 866 PCSafety Security > Support group that I always recommend. Just ignore PA Bear. He doesn't know what he's talking about here and is simply making a mountain out of a molehill. > > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23kZxBUSDIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Paul Adare wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >>> >>>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS PSS >>>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP >>>> who >>>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>>> signature. >>> >>> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >>> direct >>> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd >>> years >>> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up >>> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >>> network. Not even close to being an employee. >> >> Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to >> "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. >> -- >> ~Robear, working offline -- Paul Adare MVP - Virtual Machines http://www.identit.ca Binary: Possessing the ability to have friends of both sexes.
Guest pcbutts1 Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista I agree with this post -- Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com, David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz, Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell "Sharon Franks" <no@spam.me> wrote in message news:ueg8DhSDIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Why because it looks more impressive than yours? > > -- > > Sharon Franks > MCC group > Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer (MCSD) > Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT). > > > > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23kZxBUSDIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Paul Adare wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >>> >>>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS PSS >>>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP >>>> who >>>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>>> signature. >>> >>> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >>> direct >>> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd >>> years >>> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up >>> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >>> network. Not even close to being an employee. >> >> Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to >> "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. >> -- >> ~Robear, working offline > >
Guest pcbutts1 Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista I agree with this post. -- Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com, David H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz, Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell "Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message news:cv1pck27qye1.1fnvidqxo4xf7$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:18:42 +0800, Milo (MSPSS) wrote: > >> C`mon everyone its just a signature - dont take much of attention to it >> at >> the end of the day we just get to help those who is in need of >> assistance. >> And also am not misleading anyone as I do work for the 866 PCSafety >> Security >> Support group that I always recommend. > > Just ignore PA Bear. He doesn't know what he's talking about here and is > simply making a mountain out of a molehill. > >> >> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23kZxBUSDIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Paul Adare wrote: >>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: >>>> >>>>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS >>>>> PSS >>>>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP >>>>> who >>>>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup >>>>> signature. >>>> >>>> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a >>>> direct >>>> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd >>>> years >>>> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up >>>> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's >>>> network. Not even close to being an employee. >>> >>> Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to >>> "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. >>> -- >>> ~Robear, working offline > > > -- > Paul Adare > MVP - Virtual Machines > http://www.identit.ca > Binary: Possessing the ability to have friends of both sexes.
Guest BoaterDave Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista Can someone who isn't 'kill-filed' here please 'prompt' PABear into responding? TIA Dave On 13 Oct, 08:55, "BoaterDave" <bdo...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > What I'd be interested to know, Robear, is why you haven't used your normal > signature block in this thread, viz. > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) > AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net > DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.org/ > > I'm hopeful that you have a better explanation than that suggested by > 'Sharon'. If you and your small group of 'helpers' at 'aumha' are 'good > guys', please tell me, and others reading here, exactly why you chose not to > advertise same in this/these threads. Thank you. > > *************************************************** > > "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:%23vrpIXTDIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > No, because it leads newsgroup readers to assume he represents/works > > directly for MS Product Support Services. > > > Sharon Franks wrote: > >> Why because it looks more impressive than yours? > > >> "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:%23kZxBUSDIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> Paul Adare wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 11Oct200720:03:03 -0400, PA Bear wrote: > > >>>>> MiLO, do you still have an official employment relationship with MS > >>>>> PSS > >>>>> (Product Support Services)? I ask because I'm not aware of any MS MVP > >>>>> who > >>>>> also works for Microsoft or who includes MSPSS in their newsgroup > >>>>> signature. > > >>>> You don't understand what a "v-" account means. Milo does not have a > >>>> direct > >>>> employment relationship with Microsoft. I was a "v-" for 12 some odd > >>>> years > >>>> and was still able to be an MVP. Only FTEs of Microsoft have to give up > >>>> their MVP status. A v- is a vendor who has an account on Microsoft's > >>>> network. Not even close to being an employee. > > >>> Yeah, I discovered this after posting. Still, I feel that reference to > >>> "MSPSS" is misleading and inappropriate. > >>> -- > >>> ~Robear, working offline- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Guest Paul Adare Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:05:28 -0700, BoaterDave wrote: > Can someone who isn't 'kill-filed' here please 'prompt' PABear into > responding? TIA Why? What's the point? What possible purpose would be served by answering your question about why he didn't use his normal .sig in his post? -- Paul Adare MVP - Virtual Machines http://www.identit.ca If it's stupid and works, then it ain't stupid!
Guest MAP Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista mikk wrote: > Why you're posting this useless message here? > This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista. This is not a "Vista only" newsgroup. -- Mike Pawlak
Guest BoaterDave Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista On 16 Oct, 02:32, Paul Adare <pkad...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:05:28 -0700, BoaterDave wrote: > > Can someone who isn't 'kill-filed' here please 'prompt' PABear into > > responding? TIA > > Why? What's the point? What possible purpose would be served by answering > your question about why he didn't use his normal .sig in his post? > > -- > Paul Adare > MVP - Virtual Machineshttp://www.identit.ca > If it's stupid and works, then it ain't stupid! I've 'known' Robear here on the MS newsgroups for 2 years. He has, to the best of my knowledge, always used his 'signature block'. I discovered quite a while ago that a poster can masquerade as anyone they wish. I'd just like to confirm (or otherwise) that it was actually PABear who made the post to which you responded with "Just ignore PA Bear. He doesn't know what he's talking about here and is simply making a mountain out of a molehill". That's all! Dave
Guest Antioch Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 Re: This vulnerability does not affect Windows Vista "BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1192496728.891005.95620@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > Can someone who isn't 'kill-filed' here please 'prompt' PABear into > responding? TIA He has obviously 'Plonked' you 'cos he realises you are a 'Plonker' Antioch
Recommended Posts